Was PSP Neglected like Wii Originally was by Publishers (before the mass piracy)

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Do you think PSP ever got a fair chance in terms of the games that were made for it in terms of quality matching PSP's hardware ability and having enough games developed for it that were not just ports or quick cash-ins? Like how Wii was at first when not enough games were made for it and how Wii did not get games that took advantage of it's actual specs.
 
No, the PSP was always pretty much spat on by developers... And it sucks. You have the most powerful portable system EVER (currently), with an array of other features (that could have been tied in to gameplay, ala Pursuit Force and being able to win wallpapers, etc.)... So sad...

*HUGS PSP*

Mostly shovelware, and when that didn't sell, developers were like, oh see... and you have piracy come later, and it's all shot to hell. People, please PURCHASE A DAMN GAME FROM YOUR LOCAL BEST BUY OR TOYS R' US OR GAMESTOP NOW!!!
 
I agree with mtxbass1, it has plenty of great games. It has more games worth playing on the system than I'd ever have the time to play in my lifetime, so I can't complain. I just wish I had more time to play them. There is nothing wrong with having over 100+ top notch games on a portable system. Plus, the PSP has done a fantastic job in the handheld market...considering they went up against Nintendo which had a monopoly over the handheld world.
 
There are TONS of great games for the PSP. Hot Shots Tennis is taking up most of my time these days. Soooooo addictive....
 
It wasn't ignored. There were plenty of games after the launch window and beyond and there are still tons of good games. It's a shame that a lot of the hot shit is Japan only AND that more games weren't tailor-made to the hardware's strengths ala MH:FU, Peace Walker, LocoRoco/Patapon, Lumines, Yuusha 30, etc. and were instead shoehorned ideas thrown on a portable system.

I plowed through anything that looked interesting (even that weird-ass UFO map game) until 2008 but then sold mine and I really want to come back to it. I just got rid of my Wii and was planning on getting another PS2 but we'll see.
 
Psp was a bad idea. Games should have been pick up and play instead of those hardcore games. Who has time to sit there and play god of war when your not home? And if you were home why would you play on a tiny screen when you're sitting next to you're big screen tv. The DS was just as easy to pirate. And if I recall correctly, the psp was more successful when both it an the ds came out.
 
I do agree that the PSP could have been better than it is, but I think piracy on the PSP shouldn't really be much of a problem now, due to the newer firmwares pretty much preventing any piracy of PSP games to happen. Yet, DS games are easy to pirate as well, so I really don't think it's all due to piracy, probably due to the lack of interest in PSP games.

I'm honestly a 3DS supporter right now, however that doesn't mean I won't buy a PSP2 at some point, just not going to be my next gen handheld console purchase.
 
It has many great games but it always felt like developers were too busy porting PS2 games to the machine and not enough new IPs. Of course, due to it's media and BC capabilities, many people probably didn't care.

I'll tell you what though, if Sony keeps pushing this whole digital BS on the PSP2, it'll only continue to get worse.
 
I never had a problem finding great games to play on the PSP. I will admit that I stupidly trusted press reviews early on and missed a lot of hidden gems in the process.
 
The PSP is fabulous. Best gaming system this generation.

Shame it hasn't done that well. Sony really overestimated the quality of the gaming market.
 
I think the PSP has tons of good to great games. I'd stack Chains of Olympus up against either of the PS2 God of War Games, An affordable way to play Valkyrie Profile, A way to play Disgaea and Persona 3 away from my house, Monster Hunter, Dungeon Siege.. a really good over head looter, Final Fantasy Tactics on the go!, I 1st played Puzzle Quest on a PSP, The Star Oceans, I didn't think a really good portable fighter was possible until Tekken: DR, Kratos in Soul Calibur?!?!, That's not even getting into PSN PS1 DLs like FF7, Suikoden, Wild Arms, ect. I think the PSP has been given a few chances, but developers do see Piracy as huge issue. Just look at Force Unleashed II getting canned for PSP.
 
No. The PSP has plenty of great games. I love Syphon Filter Dark Mirror and seriously need to play Logan's Shadow, God of War was great, and the list is long but...

I honestly believe the one main thing that shot the PSP in the foot before piracy was load times...I mean when you turn on a DS you are playing almost instantly. The PSP should have used something other than the UMD for storage. The suspend was a great feature and would work if the battery life wasn't as piss poor as it was when the system launched. The PSP was almost too powerful for it's own good at the time. Everyone just kind of moved on...it didn't hurt that the DS starting getting some really intriguing games by then as well.
 
[quote name='Droenixjpn']I think piracy on the PSP shouldn't really be much of a problem now, due to the newer firmwares pretty much preventing any piracy of PSP games to happen.[/QUOTE]

What? New firmware doesn't do jack.
 
I bought a fat DS at launch on Thanksgiving 2004, then traded it into EB Games for a GBA SP straight up and got a PSP at launch. Had it for 2 years before I traded it to someone in 2007, just rebought the PSP last year and got a BUNCH of games off Goozex/TRU clearance/B2G1F at Gamestop. Sold my DS and all my games to Gamestop a couple of months ago to help pay for Halo Reach, CoD, and probably Dragon Age 2.

Getting VC 2 day 1 next week and the new GoW day 1 only for all the stuff you get for a preorder.

The PSP issues are as follows: bad load times out of the gate (still an issue on some games but the digital version helps see Mana Khemia for an extreme example,) glut of direct PS2 ports instead of reworking ip's to work on PSP (see Twisted Metal, GoW, Syphon Filter, etc.), bad marketing which continues to this day, games costing too much ($40 MSRP at launch still for most), and the discovery of mass piracy options have led to the abandonment of the platform by western devs. The only games we can look forward to on the platform are Japan centric titles (Square Enix, Sega, Atlus, etc.) and those coming from Sony directly.

And the blame is not just Sony, it's the pirates also. Take the award winner from my podcast for PSP GotY last year in Rock Band Unplugged. Sold so poorly they stopped doing songs for it on the PSN and now Rock Band 3 is on the DS, which has a MUCH more limited way of adding songs via DLC than the PSP, but will probably sell better on DS.
 
I love my PSP, and I love the games on it, but I still think UMD was a bad idea. I don't believe truly portable systems should rely on a disc-based media, because then the device needs a motor, it eats up battery life, and it becomes a bad idea to move the device while it is being read.

Also, Load times can be cruel. Miman Iyar Chronicles was truly awful, with long load times before and after a random battle, with a high encounter rate.

Also, piracy is a problem, but it's also a problem on the DS so.....
 
I love PSP, but I think it did get the shaft from publishers in terms of not taking full advantage of it's hardware and later on not getting enough support (even before the piracy got rampant). This doesn't change the fact that it has tons of great games. I look at the best PSP games out there and there is a large divide between them and the rest of the stuff on PSP. This is no fault on the PSP itself, but on the publishers and developers to a lesser extent.
 
PSP actually had more support in the west initially by third parties. When it came to first party games, SCEJ was the main supporter while SCEE/SCEA more so invested on PS3.

The only problem is that some third parties tried half ass PS2 ports early on, but things have improved. Some games had slow load times early.

But regardless, the only two downtimes I felt PSP had was after its initial launch of games and in the 2nd half of 2008. Otherwise, PSP has been great and is my favorite platform.
 
But the thing is DS games that target youths or families do not face as much piracy, and with PSP's userbase being older they are more likely to pirate especially with higher game prices and the popularity of CFW for emulation and homebrew makes it that much easier for people to pirate even when they originally got CFW for those other reasons. Given how sales for PSP software were much lower than DS to begin with, there's less others to make up for the piracy.
 
i have had my PSP for about 4 months now and man is is great. I haven't played any other console since i have had it. Its so good and i think we are in the PSP's golden age right now with all the great games coming out soon.
 
[quote name='J7.']But the thing is DS games that target youths or families do not face as much piracy, and with PSP's userbase being older they are more likely to pirate especially with higher game prices and the popularity of CFW for emulation and homebrew makes it that much easier for people to pirate even when they originally got CFW for those other reasons. Given how sales for PSP software were much lower than DS to begin with, there's less others to make up for the piracy.[/QUOTE]

A lot of parents are smart enough to know what a flash cart is. Setting up a flashcart with rom is easier than installing CFW. Plus you cannot install CFW on newer PSP, but you can use flashcart on every DS model. The DS user base is much larger than PSP which is main reason for lower software sale.
 
So you're saying parents are buying illegal flash carts and installing them for their children? PSP hardware sales have gone down since then and most people own the ones that can be used to pirate. Yes, DS user base is larger, my point is due to more people owning DS there's enough people out of that larger userbase to still buy games whereas PSP does not have enough people to make up for its pirates.
 
[quote name='J7.']So you're saying parents are buying illegal flash carts and installing them for their children? PSP hardware sales have gone down since then and most people own the ones that can be used to pirate. Yes, DS user base is larger, my point is due to more people owning DS there's enough people out of that larger userbase to still buy games whereas PSP does not have enough people to make up for its pirates.[/QUOTE]

A lot of soccer mom I know brought flash cart and kids are smart enough to put rom on them. New PSP that were sold for the last two years arent able to run CFW. Any new DS owner can pick up a flash cart.
 
[quote name='62t']A lot of soccer mom I know brought flash cart and kids are smart enough to put rom on them. New PSP that were sold for the last two years arent able to run CFW. Any new DS owner can pick up a flash cart.[/QUOTE]

I don't think a lot of parents are buying flash carts for their children in comparison to those who are not. PSP sales have dropped off since the 3000 released. From what I see PSP 3000 has been hacked, it just took a while. Even if it is as easy technically to pirate on DS what I'm saying is less people do it (and less games are affected on DS) respective to the entire DS user base. Regardless to avoid this debate one can also ask do you think DS was neglected before it's piracy... the answer to that will shed more light on the answer to whether PSP was.
 
I'd say UMD movies is where it really started to turn for the worse. They diverted the money of their end users from games, which is where it should have stayed. More money spent is more money for developers, which is more games being built.

I just got my first PSP four months ago and it is fantastic. I regret making fun of it when I did. (still love my DS though)
 
Certainly not by Square Enix. Every single game that they've announce for PSP since Crisis Core I've been very interested in. Especially their lineup coming late 2010 and 2011.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']Lack of talent, not lack of support.

And PSP wasn't anywhere near being a failure anyways.[/QUOTE]

Lack of talent?
 
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