We're Taking Over!!!

[quote name='pumbaa']Most hispanics have come here in groups and moved into Spanish communities, they live, work, and buy their products in spanish neighborhoods and have NO NEED to learn English.[/QUOTE]

No disrespect intended, but that's a sorry excuse. When I go into a store, and the lady/guy behind the counter has to work on the language barrier for an extra 10 to 15 minutes because the customer has no idea what they are saying and vice versa, the customer is frustrated....that's not the business bending, that's EXPECTING english speaking people to bend. When you see a child, their mother and father appear to speak better english than most American people who have been here all their life, and they speak to the child in Spanish, the child speaks back in Spanish, how does that make sense? Why aren't they teaching their child to speak English?

When I have to have more information in order for my driver's license and car, for example, than someone who is actually here illegally....well, that's the dumb ass government bending.

With the logic of that's what they are exposed to is kinda like me going to someone's house and sitting on their couch, watching TV in my underwear, eatting Cheetos and getting orange balls. Hey, if that's the way it is at home, surely that's what's accepted everywhere right? (to clarify, I really don't do that, I don't eat Cheetos much.)

I don't have some supreme theory that only some cultures and races *belong* here, far from it. I also don't have some Archie Bunker approach to life. I really don't care if you are white, black, orange, yellow, pink, blue, Hispanic, Chineese, Jewish, martian, etc.

I just expect to be treated like I still belong.
 
[quote name='howlinmad']No disrespect intended, but that's a sorry excuse. When I go into a store, and the lady/guy behind the counter has to work on the language barrier for an extra 10 to 15 minutes because the customer has no idea what they are saying and vice versa, the customer is frustrated....that's not the business bending, that's EXPECTING english speaking people to bend. When you see a child, their mother and father appear to speak better english than most American people who have been here all their life, and they speak to the child in Spanish, the child speaks back in Spanish, how does that make sense? Why aren't they teaching their child to speak English?

When I have to have more information in order for my driver's license and car, for example, than someone who is actually here illegally....well, that's the dumb ass government bending.

With the logic of that's what they are exposed to is kinda like me going to someone's house and sitting on their couch, watching TV in my underwear, eatting Cheetos and getting orange balls. Hey, if that's the way it is at home, surely that's what's accepted everywhere right? (to clarify, I really don't do that, I don't eat Cheetos much.)

I don't have some supreme theory that only some cultures and races *belong* here, far from it. I also don't have some Archie Bunker approach to life. I really don't care if you are white, black, orange, yellow, pink, blue, Hispanic, Chineese, Jewish, martian, etc.

I just expect to be treated like I still belong.[/QUOTE]

It's not an excuse, it's a fact. If you don't need to know the language to get by in your day-to-day life then you won't learn it. When I go to Koreatown to buy some kimpop (or is it kimbob?) some of the people don't know English but I don't care. White people seem to have this notion that America belongs to them and anyone coming here has to play by their rules. That's Bullshit. If I go to Japan and live in an American community that speaks English, then guess what? I ain't learning Japanese! Land belongs to someone only until they get killed by someone else. The Explorers killed off the Native Americans because they could. Many of the countries in Europe aren't populated by indigenous people. The people that live there now killed the people that lived there before who killed the people lived there before THEM and so on. My point is that a country does not belong to the people that are there now. They are only living on the land until someone stronger comes along and takes it from them.

Who knows, in 200 years some other people may have taken over this country, and they'll think that THEY own it.
 
[quote name='howlinmad']No, what's bullshit is you group all white people like that.[/QUOTE]

EDIT -- I get it. It would have been easier to read if it was: "No, what's bullshit is that you group all white people like that".

AND YES ALL WHITES ARE KILLERS AND RACISTS!!!!

just kidding.

I'm not grouping all white people just like you arent grouping all hispanics or foreigners with not knowing the language since MANY of them do.
 
There's no reason why immigrants shouldn't learn at least a little bit of the language of the country they live in, if for anything, than for the fact that they will eventually have to communicate with the natives. Just seems like common sense.



For one thing, working with hispanics who hardly know any english is one of the most frustrating things I've had to deal with. who gets the shaft when a miscommunication happens? the racist white guy, of course. Now when I apply somewhere, I make sure the majority of the staff isn't hispanic, cause it's just bullshit that people who hardly know english will come to work in english speaking neighborhoods. anyone who wants to step up to the plate and call me out as an ethnocentric american for saying that is more than welcome to.

of course, to keep it fair, that goes for ANYBODY who immigrates...unless they have a community that requires no english whatsoever and they get their tax papers and all their gov't forms in their native language.
 
[quote name='Apossum']There's no reason why immigrants shouldn't learn at least a little bit of the language of the country they live in, if for anything, than for the fact that they will eventually have to communicate with the natives. Just seems like common sense.



For one thing, working with hispanics who hardly know any english is one of the most frustrating things I've had to deal with. who gets the shaft when a miscommunication happens? the racist white guy, of course. Now when I apply somewhere, I make sure the majority of the staff isn't hispanic, cause it's just bullshit that people who hardly know english will come to work in english speaking neighborhoods. anyone who wants to step up to the plate and call me out as an ethnocentric american for saying that is more than welcome to.[/QUOTE]

You are right. If a hispanic wants to work somewhere that requires use of the English language, then HE should learn it.

What I meant is people who work in their own neighboorhood and do not use English at all do not need to learn it.
 
[quote name='howlinmad']No disrespect intended, but that's a sorry excuse. When I go into a store, and the lady/guy behind the counter has to work on the language barrier for an extra 10 to 15 minutes because the customer has no idea what they are saying and vice versa, the customer is frustrated....that's not the business bending, that's EXPECTING english speaking people to bend. When you see a child, their mother and father appear to speak better english than most American people who have been here all their life, and they speak to the child in Spanish, the child speaks back in Spanish, how does that make sense? Why aren't they teaching their child to speak English?

When I have to have more information in order for my driver's license and car, for example, than someone who is actually here illegally....well, that's the dumb ass government bending.

With the logic of that's what they are exposed to is kinda like me going to someone's house and sitting on their couch, watching TV in my underwear, eatting Cheetos and getting orange balls. Hey, if that's the way it is at home, surely that's what's accepted everywhere right? (to clarify, I really don't do that, I don't eat Cheetos much.)

I don't have some supreme theory that only some cultures and races *belong* here, far from it. I also don't have some Archie Bunker approach to life. I really don't care if you are white, black, orange, yellow, pink, blue, Hispanic, Chineese, Jewish, martian, etc.

I just expect to be treated like I still belong.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you that people working with the public NEED to know English... if the community with which they serve speaks English. BUT I also think that if you work in Hialeah, FL (one of the most hispanic cities in South Florida) you SHOULD know Spanish. It's all about the comunity the business serves.

And youre metaphor doesn't accurately describe the situation. Its NOT laziness. It's more akin to you going to someones house and them making you FEEL at home so that you just sit down a chill by yourself... America is offering cocktails, offering the television, and saying essentially "Mi casa es su casa"... in SPANISH... because the communities for that are set up.

I say once again, take a Spanish speaking family and stick them in Topeka... they'll sure as HELL learn enough English to get by... and their KIDS will for SURE know English because the school system has programs to teach it.

The difference between us and the early NY immigrants is that WE have numbers... there are so many of us that we can form these communities and not have to learn English. The NY immigrants didnt have that common language bond.
 
[quote name='kaji7p56']I don't get it. Is the "you" supposed to be "your". I'm not kidding, I don't understand your sentence. Please clarify.[/QUOTE]

No, you don't get it.

I'm talking about a language barrier, you're talking about an entire race thinking a way that is complete BS.

*edited*
And I am also obviously not talking about ALL hispanics since MANY of them do infact speak very fluent Spanish AND English.
 
Maybe we should move this to the Vs. thread? Originally it wasn't intended that way... but I AM enjoying this discussion... its only through this type of level-headed discussion that we learn anything about anyone.
 
[quote name='kaji7p56']You are right. If a hispanic wants to work somewhere that requires use of the English language, then HE should learn it.

What I meant is people who work in their own neighboorhood and do not use English at all do not need to learn it.[/QUOTE]


right. on a sidenote, it doesn't seem possible to exist in a total vacuum anywhere.
 
[quote name='howlinmad']No, you don't get it.

I'm talking about a language barrier, you're talking about an entire race thinking a way that is complete BS.[/QUOTE]

I edited my post if you want to check it, but I'll repeat what I said.

I wasn't grouping all whites together just like you weren't grouping all hispanics or foreigners together. Or were you?
 
I wonder if they get their tax forms and all that stuff in spanish?
 
[quote name='Apossum']right. on a sidenote, it doesn't seem possible to exist in a total vacuum anywhere.[/QUOTE]

Not a TOTAL vacuum, but many people including Hispanics and Koreans have parts of the city that make you wonder if you are still in the US. The only people who know the language in those places is the children who were raised here.
 
[quote name='kaji7p56']I edited my post if you want to check it, but I'll repeat what I said.

I wasn't grouping all whites together just like you weren't grouping all hispanics or foreigners together. Or were you?[/QUOTE]

I edited my post if you want to check it, but I'll repeat what I said. :)

I'm talking about a language barrier, you're talking about an entire race thinking a way that is complete BS.

*edited*
And I am also obviously not talking about ALL hispanics, since you are very much correct, MANY of them do infact speak very fluent Spanish AND English.
 
[quote name='pumbaa']Maybe we should move this to the Vs. thread? Originally it wasn't intended that way... but I AM enjoying this discussion... its only through this type of level-headed discussion that we learn anything about anyone.[/QUOTE]

With a title like "Were taking over!" you have to expect that it will cause a bit of commotion. It sounds adversarial, so I guess it belongs in the "vs." forum.
 
[quote name='howlinmad']I edited my post if you want to check it, but I'll repeat what I said. :)

I'm talking about a language barrier, you're talking about an entire race thinking a way that is complete BS.

*edited*
And I am also obviously not talking about ALL hispanics, since you are very much correct, MANY of them do infact speak very fluent Spanish AND English.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad it was cleared up.

On a side note, I speak waaaay better English than I do Spanish. English is what's for dinner. Damn MTV. :lol:
 
[quote name='kaji7p56']I'm glad it was cleared up.

On a side note, I speak waaaay better English than I do Spanish. English is what's for dinner. Damn MTV. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Hey, didn't mean any ill will. It's all good. Discussion is good for the soul. :)
 
[quote name='kaji7p56']With a title like "Were taking over!" you have to expect that it will cause a bit of commotion. It sounds adversarial, so I guess it belongs in the "vs." forum.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I went into this thread thinking game companies were getting pissed because we didn't pay full price for their overpriced games anymore. :)
 
[quote name='howlinmad']Actually, I went into this thread thinking game companies were getting pissed because we didn't pay full price for their overpriced games anymore. :)[/QUOTE]

That is also true. Although in my case, I don't buy games at all. I guess I grew out of it.
 
United States doesnt have an official language. If you go to places that only have spanish speaking people than you should make the effort to learn the language, as should they. People are only going to learn what they need to learn. If people can manage to live without the need for another language then they aint going to learn it. It would sometimes be harder for them, but if they can still manage without speaking the other language then they will be fine.
 
There may be communities that speak primarily or exclusively spanish. I think it's great that some companies are catering to spanish speaking immigrants. (As long as they got here legally)

However, to believe that said communites are in an abolutely contained English vacuum is a misconception. Would it not be rude if I moved to Mexico and expected everyone there to learn English to cater to me? Move to England and expect everyone to drive on the right side of the road, because that is how I learned it?

Look at Canada. An example of a nation without an official language, and a large portion of the population speaks a different language than the majority. Look how well they're staying together. Every few years they put a secession option up for vote.
 
I have no problem with people who come to this country and they are trying to learn English. English is a tough language, especially when it isn't your first. I have no problem with someone struggling in English if they are honestly trying to learn the language. Hell, we all spoke that way when we were little and learning English.

If you come here and expect everyone else to speak YOUR language, then there is definitely something wrong. Like many of you said, I shouldn't go to another country and expect them to speak how I speak and do things the way I do.

For example, there was this store near my house, and a friend of ours ran it with his family. They came from South Korea, and our friend was attending college while he wasn't working at the store. He was becoming an accountant, and also took several English classes. He said, "I want to live here in the States, so I want to speak the language well." He did become an accountant, and is doing pretty well now. :)
 
just goes to prove my point that whites are the minority. Hell most of my neighborhhod is either black/or hispanic. Most of the hispanic's are not even legal yet they get free health care here plus jobs. something is wrong with that in my opinion
 
[quote name='pumbaa']Here's the deal... I had this conversation with many a people and this is the logic behind most spanish people who don't speak english fluently.

Most hispanics have come here in groups and moved into Spanish communities, they live, work, and buy their products in spanish neighborhoods and have NO NEED to learn English. It's not a matter of disrespecting American culture, cultural cockiness, trying to take over the country, or laziness... its simply a matter not being EXPOSED to enough English to try to have to learn it. American culture is bending towards these communities... simply because we (Hispanics) are growing so quickly...

For example, in Miami the main grocer here (Publix) has been opening a chain called "Sabor by Publix". It's aimed at the hispanic community here... no one else. In this grocery store they probably speak spanish and have bilingual lables (or just spanish labels) here. AGAIN... no need to learn the language...

Also remember that these are among the first generations of hispanics here that you are seeing. Look at some older hispanic generations... my Grandparents came here from Puerto Rico and raised their children here... my parents. My parents were BORN in America, learned English from school and Spanish from their parents and met and had me. I know enough Spanish to speak with my grandparents... but I wouldnt call myself fluent. I'm sure my kids will speak even LESS Spanish. Hispanics will get "Americanize" over time... but you've also got to realize that America is going to have to change as well to accomidate this large incoming flux of people.

ALSO realize that under the only thing that makes us "hispanics" united is our language... this is why we are so "large". Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Colombians, Ecuadorians... we ALL have very distinct cultures... as distinct as European cultures...

Carry on. ;)[/QUOTE]

When a hispanic child goes to school - an American school - I'm pretty sure they need to speak english. If they want a good job - They're going to have to learn how to speak it. If I walk into a store to order food - I will never do it in spanish.

My father is Mexican. My mother was an exchange student and fell in love with him when she was down there - had my brother and sis - decided that Mexico was not the place to raise children - and then moved back to America and had me. Luckily, most mexicans already speak english due to trade/american television (a majority of their channels are in English). Personally, I speak enough spanish to talk to my relatives.

If all of my relatives in Mexico and Spain can speak fluent English but have NEVER lived in the United States - I don't see why there is a problem for immigrants to learn English. Commercial markets aren't an excuse for the linguistic fragmentation of our country.
 
[quote name='kaji7p56']It's not an excuse, it's a fact. If you don't need to know the language to get by in your day-to-day life then you won't learn it. When I go to Koreatown to buy some kimpop (or is it kimbob?) some of the people don't know English but I don't care. White people seem to have this notion that America belongs to them and anyone coming here has to play by their rules. That's Bullshit. If I go to Japan and live in an American community that speaks English, then guess what? I ain't learning Japanese! Land belongs to someone only until they get killed by someone else. The Explorers killed off the Native Americans because they could. Many of the countries in Europe aren't populated by indigenous people. The people that live there now killed the people that lived there before who killed the people lived there before THEM and so on. My point is that a country does not belong to the people that are there now. They are only living on the land until someone stronger comes along and takes it from them.

Who knows, in 200 years some other people may have taken over this country, and they'll think that THEY own it.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry - but I can confidently say that 80% or more of Japan speaks Japanese fluently. In France, I don't see English posted next to their French signs. I'm also relatively sure that in France's case, they BANNED the use of english in certain areas. They want to preserve the cohesive nature of their country. Same goes for other foreign lands.
 
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[quote name='evilmojo12542']just goes to prove my point that whites are the minority. Hell most of my neighborhhod is either black/or hispanic. Most of the hispanic's are not even legal yet they get free health care here plus jobs. something is wrong with that in my opinion[/QUOTE]

Thank you.
And before anyone even starts, thinking that is utter bullshit does not make you a racist, prejudice, or greedy or the white man. Just simply means you think it's bullshit others get a free ride while you work your ass off to make ends meet. I don't care what race you are. I'm not a law expert, but if you are illegally here ( that means if you are hispanic, Russian, or martian) do you have a social security number? Do you pay taxes if you have no Social Security number? How the hell do you get a driver's license? How the hell do you get car insurance? Last time I changed insurance and then later when I put my wife on the same policy, it was an act of congress. Which included our SSN. among other lengthy requests.

I know this is a touchy subject, you can't mention another race without stereotyping blah blah blah. But this is not about hispanics as a culture or race, it's only people who think they can just do whatever they please.

If people who are here legally stop paying taxes, we get put through total hell, why should it be different?
 
I read this the other day, I'm glad because I really like Spanish food and all its incarnations. The more there are of a people in an area, the more eateries they'll open and that's fine by me.
 
[quote name='howlinmad']Thank you.
And before anyone even starts, thinking that is utter bullshit does not make you a racist, prejudice, or greedy or the white man. Just simply means you think it's bullshit others get a free ride while you work your ass off to make ends meet. I don't care what race you are. I'm not a law expert, but if you are illegally here ( that means if you are hispanic, Russian, or martian) do you have a social security number? Do you pay taxes if you have no Social Security number? How the hell do you get a driver's license? How the hell do you get car insurance? Last time I changed insurance and then later when I put my wife on the same policy, it was an act of congress. Which included our SSN. among other lengthy requests.

I know this is a touchy subject, you can't mention another race without stereotyping blah blah blah. But this is not about hispanics as a culture or race, it's only people who think they can just do whatever they please.

If people who are here legally stop paying taxes, we get put through total hell, why should it be different?[/QUOTE]

The irony of stereotypes is that for them to develop, a pinch of truth is needed.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']The irony of stereotypes is that for them to develop, a pinch of truth is needed.[/QUOTE]

You aren't supposed to notice. shhhhhh
 
do you have a social security number? Do you pay taxes if you have no Social Security number? How the hell do you get a driver's license? How the hell do you get car insurance?
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1. they don't
2. hell no
3. they get them some how
4. ha! that's funny.


What can I say, times have changed.
 
[quote name='Apossum']1. they don't
2. hell no
3. they get them some how
4. ha! that's funny.


What can I say, times have changed.[/QUOTE]

The last news agency autonomous from the Russian Government goes under - leaving no one to criticize politics occuring within the country.

What can I say, times have changed.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']The last news agency autonomous from the Russian Government goes under - leaving no one to criticize politics occuring within the country.

What can I say, times have changed.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying it's okay or that I don't care but there's not much more i can do at this moment than bitch about it, which I don't feel like doing :lol:
 
[quote name='Apossum']I'm not saying it's okay or that I don't care but there's not much more i can do at this moment than bitch about it, which I don't feel like doing :lol:[/QUOTE]

True that. Nothing moves until the politicians do - and most use the race card to their pitiful advantage.

I recently read that a join coalition of republicans and dems. banded together to fight the recent fillibuster/other nonsense going on. Too bad the republican side one be funded once re-election comes around.

Sad - when people move for change - they seem to be squashed like ants. Leads me to believe the language deal won't be handled any time soon. No one sees it as a viable threat.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']When a hispanic child goes to school - an American school - I'm pretty sure they need to speak english. If they want a good job - They're going to have to learn how to speak it. If I walk into a store to order food - I will never do it in spanish.

My father is Mexican. My mother was an exchange student and fell in love with him when she was down there - had my brother and sis - decided that Mexico was not the place to raise children - and then moved back to America and had me. Luckily, most mexicans already speak english due to trade/american television (a majority of their channels are in English). Personally, I speak enough spanish to talk to my relatives.

If all of my relatives in Mexico and Spain can speak fluent English but have NEVER lived in the United States - I don't see why there is a problem for immigrants to learn English. Commercial markets aren't an excuse for the linguistic fragmentation of our country.[/QUOTE]

Just so you know, there is an ESOL (English as a Second Language) program in almost ALL schools down here in Florida. A child doesnt have to know English to go into a public elementary school.

If you happen to walk into a store in a largely hispanic area there may be a chance that they only speak Spanish there... or very little English. If you walk into a store in Chinatown... chances are they'd speak Chinese... Why? Because most of the business thats comes through these places is in language from the surround area.

You're right, commercial markets aren't an excuse for the linguistic fragmentation of our country... buts its not like American can only speak Spanish OR English. Most of the people who speak Spanish that I know are bilingual... it doesn't have to be an either or situations. In MOST if not ALL other countries... multiple languages is a GIVEN within the population... bilingualism is a GOOD THING... and is encouraged.

You bring up another great point... a higher percentage of people in most countries speak more English than we do of their language... that just makes sense since we are an world powerhouse. But it's also because of the arrogance that Americans have with English as well. As much as people would like to say, "Oh if I move into a country or do business with some other country I'd learn at least a little of the language" this isnt the case... we are a liguistically cocky country... and I dont think its a horrible thing that another language is being introduced into the psyche of the country.
 
[quote name='pumbaa']Just so you know, there is an ESOL (English as a Second Language) program in almost ALL schools down here in Florida. A child doesnt have to know English to go into a public elementary school.

You bring up another great point... a higher percentage of people in most countries speak more English than we do of their language... that just makes sense since we are an world powerhouse. But it's also because of the arrogance that Americans have with English as well. As much as people would like to say, "Oh if I move into a country or do business with some other country I'd learn at least a little of the language" this isnt the case... we are a liguistically cocky country... and I dont think its a horrible thing that another language is being introduced into the psyche of the country.[/QUOTE]

You don't have to know English going in - but you better know it coming out. That's what I'm saying at the moment.

If you're talking about tourism - I don't see why any person should be forced to learn the language. You're visiting and would be helped eitherway. Trying to speak the language is a courtesy. When my relatives from Spain come - I speak spanish as best as I can because they aren't as fluent as my Mexican branch.

Now if you lived their for six months, I think you'd have to learn the language or fall apart. Say it's an internship? Why would anyone hire someone who can't speak the native language? Likewise in the United States. They better understand that they aren't going to go far without an understandable amount of English under their belt. It's when the foreign language becomes what people predominantly use that annoys me. Why do you think so many people are taking Spanish in college? Some is interest and another population because of the fact that some people can speak nothing but that.

My sister was hired as a paramedic because she speaks spanish. It solved a lot of problems when they picked up people - because many only spoke spanish. And in the more violent situations between gangs - you bet it came in handy. Although, it is pretty funny when she screws up and the guy stares at her with a "what the hell did you just say" face.
 
[quote name='howlinmad']Thank you.
And before anyone even starts, thinking that is utter bullshit does not make you a racist, prejudice, or greedy or the white man. Just simply means you think it's bullshit others get a free ride while you work your ass off to make ends meet. I don't care what race you are. I'm not a law expert, but if you are illegally here ( that means if you are hispanic, Russian, or martian) do you have a social security number? Do you pay taxes if you have no Social Security number? How the hell do you get a driver's license? How the hell do you get car insurance? Last time I changed insurance and then later when I put my wife on the same policy, it was an act of congress. Which included our SSN. among other lengthy requests.

I know this is a touchy subject, you can't mention another race without stereotyping blah blah blah. But this is not about hispanics as a culture or race, it's only people who think they can just do whatever they please.

If people who are here legally stop paying taxes, we get put through total hell, why should it be different?[/QUOTE]

yes thank you that is esactly where I was going. When I was growing up first job was normally at a fast food joint or a factory. Those jobs are no longer availble to our legal citizens now. As stated before here in this city illegls get free health care. They are also upset because the law now says you have to have 3 pieces of id to get a license they are suing and say it is racism because they can not get three pieces if they where legal no problem at all. Long and shor is I am tired of busting my ass to give someone else a free ride
 
[quote name='lionheart4life']Not to offend anyone, but people need to stop having 8 kids when you can only afford to raise 2 or 3.[/QUOTE]

I think half of your post is bullshit.

And its "not to offend anyone." I think its total :bs: that we are made to feel bad about having opinions. Conservative America is so up tight about the remote possibility of offending anyone that everyone says 'I hope I wont offend anyone' everytime they state their opinion. However, shits getting so bad you need to say that or everyone labels you a bigot or a racist or some other asinine term simply because you made a statement of common sense.

Hows this?

Stop having so many goddamned kids when you're already on wellfare at the age 18 with two fucking kids already!

Don't like your country? Ok, emigrate somewhere. Don't wanna wait for the legal process? TOO fuckING BAD. It's the law. Anyone cause here illegally should be catapulted over the border or just shot.

Coming here anyways? SPEAK ENGLISH GODDAMIT!

Gee... I hope I didn't offend anyone.

Life isn't like a box of chocolates. When you open a box of chocolates you see a box of chocolates and then you eat them. If life were a box of chocolates you'd open the box and find carrots. You didn't want carrots, but someone decided for you that you were going to eat them because its what was best for you. You'd complain about this, but then people would call you an eatist because you're dicriminating against carrots. You'd try to explain that you do like carrots, you just wanted chocolate in your box of chocolates. This arguement, however, would fall on deaf ears and be branded as the lies of a carrot hating white devil. And then the carrots would take your job.
 
[quote name='JimmieMac']I read this the other day, I'm glad because I really like Spanish food and all its incarnations. The more there are of a people in an area, the more eateries they'll open and that's fine by me.[/QUOTE]

Man, I used to work with this cat on a side job last year; he went to an all-Latino Catholic church every Sunday, and he'd bring us all fresh homemade tamales from the church "after party" (or whatever the hell they call it). I miss that shit.

He was an incredibly nice person, and in my opinion, language helps, but isn't always necessary. All you need to know are words to indicate something is hot, and an assortment of words meant to emasculate and make fun of them, so you can interact with them the way you do everyone else in a kitchen.

myke.
...I'm staying way away from this hee-haw hillbilly "they do this" and "whites are the minority" fucking idiot festival. This ain't math class, kids, but if you want your nonsense to be taken seriously, *show your work.* (looking at evilmojo).
 
[quote name='Kayden']I think half of your post is bullshit.

And its "not to offend anyone." I think its total :bs: that we are made to feel bad about having opinions. Conservative America is so up tight about the remote possibility of offending anyone that everyone says 'I hope I wont offend anyone' everytime they state their opinion. However, shits getting so bad you need to say that or everyone labels you a bigot or a racist or some other asinine term simply because you made a statement of common sense.

Hows this?

Stop having so many goddamned kids when you're already on wellfare at the age 18 with two fucking kids already!

Don't like your country? Ok, emigrate somewhere. Don't wanna wait for the legal process? TOO fuckING BAD. It's the law. Anyone cause here illegally should be catapulted over the border or just shot.

Coming here anyways? SPEAK ENGLISH GODDAMIT!

Gee... I hope I didn't offend anyone.

Life isn't like a box of chocolates. When you open a box of chocolates you see a box of chocolates and then you eat them. If life were a box of chocolates you'd open the box and find carrots. You didn't want carrots, but someone decided for you that you were going to eat them because its what was best for you. You'd complain about this, but then people would call you an eatist because you're dicriminating against carrots. You'd try to explain that you do like carrots, you just wanted chocolate in your box of chocolates. This arguement, however, would fall on deaf ears and be branded as the lies of a carrot hating white devil. And then the carrots would take your job.[/QUOTE]

so let me get this straight; you just blamed "non-conservatives" (perhaps just liberals, I dunno) for conservatives' feeling social stigma about their racist and bigoted diatribes? That's fuckin' rich, man.

myke.
...blame the bigots for the bigotry, I say.
 
[quote name='Kayden']I think half of your post is bullshit.

And its "not to offend anyone." I think its total :bs: that we are made to feel bad about having opinions. Conservative America is so up tight about the remote possibility of offending anyone that everyone says 'I hope I wont offend anyone' everytime they state their opinion. However, shits getting so bad you need to say that or everyone labels you a bigot or a racist or some other asinine term simply because you made a statement of common sense.
[/QUOTE]

I agree. As soon as you say anything remotely interesting, some assholes always saying "Im callin the cops" "Im tellin the Mods" or just "Moooooooommmmmy"

Cant say anything because of the freaking out-of-control lawyers in this country.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']so let me get this straight; you just blamed "non-conservatives" (perhaps just liberals, I dunno) for conservatives' feeling social stigma about their racist and bigoted diatribes? That's fuckin' rich, man.

myke.
...blame the bigots for the bigotry, I say.[/QUOTE]

I'm not making this an issue of politcal parties. I'm refering to how the US as a whole is getting so tight-assed that you could stick 5 nickels up its proverbial butt and get a quarter.
 
We're not gonna take it! NO! We aint gonna take it! We aint gonna take it, anymo!

Seriously. I don't care if America is full of hispanic, jewish, muslims, europeans, white trash rednecks, whatever. I don't even care if you speak english. The fact is it's still America and I'm glad to call it home and glad to have other people call it home, too.

I hate racist bastards. America was founded on equality. While it may not have been equal in the beggining, I'll be damned if I won't work my ass off to make it equal for all today.
 
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