We're Taking Over!!!

[quote name='Kayden']I'm not making this an issue of politcal parties. I'm refering to how the US as a whole is getting so tight-assed that you could stick 5 nickels up its proverbial butt and get a quarter.[/QUOTE]

Well, let me put it to you this way. When I read something like this:

[quote name='evilmojo12542']just goes to prove my point that whites are the minority. Hell most of my neighborhhod is either black/or hispanic. Most of the hispanic's are not even legal yet they get free health care here plus jobs. something is wrong with that in my opinion[/QUOTE]

I'm going to call out idiocy, I'm going to call out bullshit, and I'm going to ask to see some proof. I'd love to see this guy prove that (1) most of the hispanics in his neighborhood are illegal, (2) they all have health care for free, (3) they all have jobs (and the whites don't), (4) the actual racial demographic of their neighborhood is (combined) greater black/hispanic than white.

That's what I get uptight about. People making arguments when they have no fucking idea about how true they are, and no ability to prove them. However, they continue to stand by a hollow argument that they are too lazy and ill informed to back up.

myke.
...show me the census data from the 5 tracts nearest to where he lives, and I'll show you someone who made a poor argument.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, let me put it to you this way. When I read something like this:



I'm going to call out idiocy, I'm going to call out bullshit, and I'm going to ask to see some proof. I'd love to see this guy prove that (1) most of the hispanics in his neighborhood are illegal, (2) they all have health care for free, (3) they all have jobs (and the whites don't), (4) the actual racial demographic of their neighborhood is (combined) greater black/hispanic than white.

That's what I get uptight about. People making arguments when they have no fucking idea about how true they are, and no ability to prove them. However, they continue to stand by a hollow argument that they are too lazy and ill informed to back up.

myke.
...show me the census data from the 5 tracts nearest to where he lives, and I'll show you someone who made a poor argument.[/QUOTE]

I don't blame you, I think he's an idiot too. Just look at his last post. He pretty much removes any possible chance of being taken seriously with his total inability to spell.

[quote name='evilmojo12542']yes thank you that is esactly where I was going. When I was growing up first job was normally at a fast food joint or a factory. Those jobs are no longer availble to our legal citizens now. As stated before here in this city illegls get free health care. They are also upset because the law now says you have to have 3 pieces of id to get a license they are suing and say it is racism because they can not get three pieces if they where legal no problem at all. Long and shor is I am tired of busting my ass to give someone else a free ride[/QUOTE]
 
True Story:

A Mexican sticks his head into a barber shop and asks, "How long before I can get a haircut?" The barber looks around the shop and says, "About 2 hours."
The guy leaves.

A few days later the same Mexican sticks his head in the door and asks, "How long before I can get a haircut?" The barber looks around at the shop full of customers and says, "About 3 hours." The guy leaves.

A week later the same Mexican sticks his head in the shop and asks, "How long before I can get a haircut?" The barber looks around the shop and says, "About an hour and a half." The guy leaves.

The barber who is intrigued by this time, looks over at a friend in the shop and says, "Hey, Bill. Follow that Mexican and see where he goes."

A little while later, Bill comes back into the shop, laughing hysterically.

The barber asks, "Bill, where did he go when he left here?"

Bill looks up, tears in his eyes and says, "Your house!"

See? If they don't take our jobs, they take our women.
 
[quote name='evilmojo12542']yes thank you that is esactly where I was going. When I was growing up first job was normally at a fast food joint or a factory. Those jobs are no longer availble to our legal citizens now. As stated before here in this city illegls get free health care. They are also upset because the law now says you have to have 3 pieces of id to get a license they are suing and say it is racism because they can not get three pieces if they where legal no problem at all. Long and shor is I am tired of busting my ass to give someone else a free ride[/QUOTE]

I got my first job in fast food. And I know many of my friends who have (hispanic or otherwise) who've gotten the same. You can't generalize your experiences to "everywhere".
 
[quote name='Kayden']I think half of your post is bullshit.

And its "not to offend anyone." I think its total :bs: that we are made to feel bad about having opinions. Conservative America is so up tight about the remote possibility of offending anyone that everyone says 'I hope I wont offend anyone' everytime they state their opinion. However, shits getting so bad you need to say that or everyone labels you a bigot or a racist or some other asinine term simply because you made a statement of common sense.

Hows this?

Stop having so many goddamned kids when you're already on wellfare at the age 18 with two fucking kids already!

Don't like your country? Ok, emigrate somewhere. Don't wanna wait for the legal process? TOO fuckING BAD. It's the law. Anyone cause here illegally should be catapulted over the border or just shot.

Coming here anyways? SPEAK ENGLISH GODDAMIT!

Gee... I hope I didn't offend anyone.

Life isn't like a box of chocolates. When you open a box of chocolates you see a box of chocolates and then you eat them. If life were a box of chocolates you'd open the box and find carrots. You didn't want carrots, but someone decided for you that you were going to eat them because its what was best for you. You'd complain about this, but then people would call you an eatist because you're dicriminating against carrots. You'd try to explain that you do like carrots, you just wanted chocolate in your box of chocolates. This arguement, however, would fall on deaf ears and be branded as the lies of a carrot hating white devil. And then the carrots would take your job.[/QUOTE]


You're right, half my post was BS and I really didn't care about offending anyone b/c its true.. I actually agree with everything you said there, thanks for putting it out there.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, let me put it to you this way. When I read something like this:



I'm going to call out idiocy, I'm going to call out bullshit, and I'm going to ask to see some proof. I'd love to see this guy prove that (1) most of the hispanics in his neighborhood are illegal, (2) they all have health care for free, (3) they all have jobs (and the whites don't), (4) the actual racial demographic of their neighborhood is (combined) greater black/hispanic than white.

That's what I get uptight about. People making arguments when they have no fucking idea about how true they are, and no ability to prove them. However, they continue to stand by a hollow argument that they are too lazy and ill informed to back up.

myke.
...show me the census data from the 5 tracts nearest to where he lives, and I'll show you someone who made a poor argument.[/QUOTE]

while I do not have cenus data to back myself up. I can tell you this Wishard hospital here in city gives free health care to mexicans. There is no secret about that hell they even have adds on tv from time to time. now in fairness They also help out anyone that needs help for a reduced price. I know the manager at the mcdonald's down the road personally he has 32 mexicans 4whites and 3 blacks working for him. I have no problem with mexican's at all in the aspect they do spend lots of money here,they do work there ass off cheaper than we would. But with that comes crime as well. They need to learn english I do not need to learn spanish. Now as far as the idiot gripeing about my spelling oh well I am far from a perfect typer and speller
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, let me put it to you this way. When I read something like this:



I'm going to call out idiocy, I'm going to call out bullshit, and I'm going to ask to see some proof. I'd love to see this guy prove that (1) most of the hispanics in his neighborhood are illegal, (2) they all have health care for free, (3) they all have jobs (and the whites don't), (4) the actual racial demographic of their neighborhood is (combined) greater black/hispanic than white.

That's what I get uptight about. People making arguments when they have no fucking idea about how true they are, and no ability to prove them. However, they continue to stand by a hollow argument that they are too lazy and ill informed to back up.

myke.
...show me the census data from the 5 tracts nearest to where he lives, and I'll show you someone who made a poor argument.[/QUOTE]

I believe in areas like california/Arizona there was a law to give illegal immigrants health care - as well as an education - which I find annoying considering that they aren't paying any taxes for that education. While his "majority" may be extremely innacurate - the fact that in some areas illegal immigrants (mostly border states) receive health care and different services that would require tax payments is true.
 
[quote name='fanskad']True Story:
A Mexican sticks his head into a barber shop and asks, "How long before I can get a haircut?" The barber looks around the shop and says, "About 2 hours."
The guy leaves.
A few days later the same Mexican sticks his head in the door and asks, "How long before I can get a haircut?" The barber looks around at the shop full of customers and says, "About 3 hours." The guy leaves.
A week later the same Mexican sticks his head in the shop and asks, "How long before I can get a haircut?" The barber looks around the shop and says, "About an hour and a half." The guy leaves.
The barber who is intrigued by this time, looks over at a friend in the shop and says, "Hey, Bill. Follow that Mexican and see where he goes."
A little while later, Bill comes back into the shop, laughing hysterically.
The barber asks, "Bill, where did he go when he left here?"
Bill looks up, tears in his eyes and says, "Your house!"
See? If they don't take our jobs, they take our women.[/QUOTE]


Right good one!! :roll:

*walks away slowly in silence*
 
[quote name='evilmojo12542']while I do not have cenus data to back myself up. I can tell you this Wishard hospital here in city gives free health care to mexicans. There is no secret about that hell they even have adds on tv from time to time. now in fairness They also help out anyone that needs help for a reduced price. I know the manager at the mcdonald's down the road personally he has 32 mexicans 4whites and 3 blacks working for him. I have no problem with mexican's at all in the aspect they do spend lots of money here,they do work there ass off cheaper than we would. But with that comes crime as well. They need to learn english I do not need to learn spanish. Now as far as the idiot gripeing about my spelling oh well I am far from a perfect typer and speller[/QUOTE]

Forget going to Canada, where exactly is this Wishard Hospital?

And I find it funny that some people that complain about jobs being taken over use fast food jobs for examples.
 
[quote name='DT778']Forget going to Canada, where exactly is this Wishard Hospital?

And I find it funny that some people that complain about jobs being taken over use fast food jobs for examples.[/QUOTE]

Mcdonalds pays up to $9 a hour to start here. If you go to best buy, fry,blockbuster,autozone,advance auto parts just to name a few you are lucky to get $7 a hour to start. So fast food does pay well here. Hell white castle's will pay you $12 a hour for shift manger 3rd shift to start
 
[quote name='evilmojo12542']Mcdonalds pays up to $9 a hour to start here. If you go to best buy, fry,blockbuster,autozone,advance auto parts just to name a few you are lucky to get $7 a hour to start. So fast food does pay well here. Hell white castle's will pay you $12 a hour for shift manger 3rd shift to start[/QUOTE]

Wow. McDonald's here in LA pay $6.75 and not a penny more. They pay $9 over there? That's alot of money (for fast food).
 
I think we should yank the welfare money from them and give it to the Native Americans (or Indians to clarify) we owe them so fucking much.
 
[quote name='evilmojo12542']while I do not have cenus data to back myself up. I can tell you this Wishard hospital here in city gives free health care to mexicans. There is no secret about that hell they even have adds on tv from time to time. now in fairness They also help out anyone that needs help for a reduced price.[/quote]

So, you're telling me that their policy is to offer free health care to all Hispanics (and not Mexicans, if you go back to page 2), but nobody else? This is their *explicit* policy? Do they have a website that says this? They're setting themselves up for quite a lawsuit if that is the case. I don't think you're being completely honest with me, but if you can show me where they explicitly offer free health care to hispanics and make others pay modestly, I'll tell you I'm wrong. Also, we are being presumptuous to think they are all illegal, aren't we?

I know the manager at the mcdonald's down the road personally he has 32 mexicans 4whites and 3 blacks working for him.
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And how many of them are illegal? How many white or black non-hispanics try to apply for work there (that *aren't* teenagers seeking their first job)? Just because they work there doesn't mean a damn thing, except they have a job. You could make yourself well-known as a whistleblower if you uncover an operation of funneling illegal immigrants through McDonald's. Again, I think you're wrong, but if you can prove it, again, so be it. Tell me how it is.

I have no problem with mexican's at all in the aspect they do spend lots of money here,they do work there ass off cheaper than we would.
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Hispanics, hispanics, hispanics. Say it with me now.

I'm glad to see that, whether you may not realize it, you have presented a righteous endorsement of free market exploitation. You're supporting precisely what Karl Marx says is the downfall of capitalism.

Which leads me to a thought about immigrants (legality aside). Why do people become furious with the workers for "taking jobs from 'us'," yet we fucking *always* give a free pass to employers for behaving according to rational business behavior (hire the chump who will work the hardest for the least pay - another of Marx's tenets)? It takes two to tango, baby.

But with that comes crime as well.
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Show me the crime statistics; Start here: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/. Now, if you're arguing that the number of crimes committed by Hispanics is increasing because the percentage of Hispanics in the total population is increasing, I'll tell you this: No shit. Strangely enough, as the number of people of a certain classification increase, the number of crimes they commit increases as well. What's enlightening about that, and what's unique about Hispanics in that respect?

If not, what *is* your argument here?

They need to learn english I do not need to learn spanish.
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In what experiences have you had where you've been completely inconvenienced by non-English speakers? I'm just curious; if they're teaching you the history of the Western world, 1500-1896 at your high school, then they should learn English. If they're making your Big Mac, what the fuck does it matter to you? Most jobs have been so deskilled (see Harry Braverman for the deskilling hypothesis) that it doesn't fucking matter what language you speak. Put the meat patty on the rotating oven. Repeat for 8 hours, cigarette breaks notwithstanding.

Now as far as the idiot gripeing about my spelling oh well I am far from a perfect typer and speller
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Well, that wasn't me, so I'll leave this comment be.

myke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']So, you're telling me that their policy is to offer free health care to all Hispanics (and not Mexicans, if you go back to page 2), but nobody else? This is their *explicit* policy? Do they have a website that says this? They're setting themselves up for quite a lawsuit if that is the case. I don't think you're being completely honest with me, but if you can show me where they explicitly offer free health care to hispanics and make others pay modestly, I'll tell you I'm wrong. Also, we are being presumptuous to think they are all illegal, aren't we?



And how many of them are illegal? How many white or black non-hispanics try to apply for work there (that *aren't* teenagers seeking their first job)? Just because they work there doesn't mean a damn thing, except they have a job. You could make yourself well-known as a whistleblower if you uncover an operation of funneling illegal immigrants through McDonald's. Again, I think you're wrong, but if you can prove it, again, so be it. Tell me how it is.



Hispanics, hispanics, hispanics. Say it with me now.

I'm glad to see that, whether you may not realize it, you have presented a righteous endorsement of free market exploitation. You're supporting precisely what Karl Marx says is the downfall of capitalism.

Which leads me to a thought about immigrants (legality aside). Why do people become furious with the workers for "taking jobs from 'us'," yet we fucking *always* give a free pass to employers for behaving according to rational business behavior (hire the chump who will work the hardest for the least pay - another of Marx's tenets)? It takes two to tango, baby.



Show me the crime statistics; Start here: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/. Now, if you're arguing that the number of crimes committed by Hispanics is increasing because the percentage of Hispanics in the total population is increasing, I'll tell you this: No shit. Strangely enough, as the number of people of a certain classification increase, the number of crimes they commit increases as well. What's enlightening about that, and what's unique about Hispanics in that respect?

If not, what *is* your argument here?



In what experiences have you had where you've been completely inconvenienced by non-English speakers? I'm just curious; if they're teaching you the history of the Western world, 1500-1896 at your high school, then they should learn English. If they're making your Big Mac, what the fuck does it matter to you? Most jobs have been so deskilled (see Harry Braverman for the deskilling hypothesis) that it doesn't fucking matter what language you speak. Put the meat patty on the rotating oven. Repeat for 8 hours, cigarette breaks notwithstanding.



Well, that wasn't me, so I'll leave this comment be.

myke.[/QUOTE]


hispanics hispanics hispanics that better lol
I have no clue what they are teaching at high school I graduated 13 years ago
as far as wether they are leagal or not I have no idea. If I am correct there is a law on the books that states that a non legal person can take a job without there greencard if no citizen's will take the job. You are probabbly correct myke in the fact that I am over playing some of this. I can only speak of what I see and know that does not mean that they are all illegal in any form shape or way and I have no problem with the ones that work and pay there share of taxes. If I offended anyony in my statements I am sorry for my ignorance
 
Yeah... the jobs that are being taken by the low income illegals here are ones that most lower to lower and middle class whites DON'T WANT to take. If your argument is that hispanics are taking middle to upper-middle class jobs... then we would be talking about affirmative action... a topic for another day and another thread.

These people wouldnt be getting hired if there weren't jobs available to being with.
 
[quote name='lionheart4life']You're right, half my post was BS and I really didn't care about offending anyone b/c its true.. I actually agree with everything you said there, thanks for putting it out there.[/QUOTE]

Its pretty much my job to be offending. :whistle2:#
 
[quote name='pumbaa']Yeah... the jobs that are being taken by the low income illegals here are ones that most lower to lower and middle class whites DON'T WANT to take. If your argument is that hispanics are taking middle to upper-middle class jobs... then we would be talking about affirmative action... a topic for another day and another thread.

These people wouldnt be getting hired if there weren't jobs available to being with.[/QUOTE]


Yes, but an argument could be made that the reason citizens don't want the jobs being taken is because they don't pay enough. The reason they pay so low has alot to do with the fact that immigrants are willing to do them for less. Without the immigrants , supply and demand would work to the benefit of citizens because the jobs would pay more and more to the point where people would finally want those jobs.
 
[quote name='Puzznic']Yes, but an argument could be made that the reason citizens don't want the jobs being taken is because they don't pay enough. The reason they pay so low has alot to do with the fact that immigrants are willing to do them for less. Without the immigrants , supply and demand would work to the benefit of citizens because the jobs would pay more and more to the point where people would finally want those jobs.[/QUOTE]

It's a chicken and the egg argument... were the wages low so the immigrants took them? Or were they pushed down because immigrants were willing to take them.

It could be either.
 
[quote name='Puzznic']Yes, but an argument could be made that the reason citizens don't want the jobs being taken is because they don't pay enough. The reason they pay so low has alot to do with the fact that immigrants are willing to do them for less. Without the immigrants , supply and demand would work to the benefit of citizens because the jobs would pay more and more to the point where people would finally want those jobs.[/QUOTE]

Way to blame the victim, shecky. As I stated above, why do businesses that hire people at extremely low wages get a free pass (even moreso if they are illegal)?

The reason is that businesses give fuck all about you or your well being; if they could build a machine to do the job, nobody would be working, so long as it helps up the profit margin each quarter.

myke.
...fuckin' come on, it's not like Wal-Mart is being held at gunpoint to give someone a shitty job at a shitty wage, so why leave them out of the equation?
 
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