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Served his country in Vietnam
Was elected to Congress, then re-elected three times
Served as a Senator from Tennessee

In the 1980s, Al Gore was highly influenced by a report given to Congress by Leonard Kleinrock, one of the creators of ARPANET, which argued for a global networked informational and computational infrastructure. After hearing this report, he introduced the "Gore Bill" which was passed as the "High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991"

This is generally hailed as an important moment in the history of the Internet.

In a 1999 interview on CNN, Al Gore made the following statement:

"During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."

This statment was misquoted on numerous occassions to imply that Al Gore had claimed the Internet as his own 'invention'. Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Robert E Khan (inventors of the TCP/IP protocol) made the following statement regarding this misquoting and resulting controversy.

"[A]s the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time. Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening."

Was Vice President of the United States

.. while VP of the USA:
More than 22 million new jobs were created in the U.S.
Helped to convert the largest budget deficit in American history into the largest surplus.
Helped to reduce government spending to its lowest point in three decades.
Reduced unemployment to its lowest level in thirty years.

Was elected President Of The United States in 2000, however due to no serving Senator coming to the aid of the Congressional Black Caucus who challenged the Supreme Court's decision to award Florida's electoral votes to George W. Bush, the will of the people was ignored and President Gore was never sworn in.

In 2003 Al Gore was on the board of directors for Apple, Inc.

In 2005 Al Gore won a Webby for three decades of contributions to the Internet. The Webby's founder and chairperson said this of Gore on that night:

"It's just one of those instances someone did amazing work for three decades as Congressman, Senator and Vice President and it got spun around into this political mess."

Currently leading the fight against global climate change, including his starring role in the documentary An Inconvenient Truth, in which he characterizes the issue not as a political one, but a moral one.

Also currently one of the most strident and vocal critics of many policies enacted by the Bush (43) administration.

If more people were as patriotic and smart as Al Gore, the United States would be a much better country.
 
"He served his country in Vietnam" I thought he bought his way out of it like Bush did by using connections to get into the National Guard or something like that. That said I know he would still be a much better president than Bush (of course so would a trained monkey). I also think he is a much better candidate than many of those who have announced that they will be running for president. The article you posted however is highly biased and full of misinformation.
 
[quote name='miker8']"He served his country in Vietnam" I thought he bought his way out of it like Bush did by using connections to get into the National Guard or something like that. That said I know he would still be a much better president than Bush (of course so would a trained monkey). I also think he is a much better candidate than many of those who have announced that they will be running for president. The article you posted however is highly biased and full of misinformation.[/QUOTE]

Gore's military experience:

U.S. senator and vice-president Al Gore, Jr. enlisted in the U.S. Army in August 1969. Although his choosing a two-year enlistment (the same as if he'd been drafted) rather than a three-year enlistment meant that he technically did not get to choose his occupational speciality, realistically there was little chance he would be assigned to a combat position. Of the suggestion that Gore used political connections to ensure a non-combat position as an "information specialist," Gore biographer Bill Turque wrote:


[T]here is no hard evidence that Gore's father, other government officials, or top commanders intervened on his behalf. Dess Stokes, staff sergeant at the Newark Armed Forces Entrance and Examination Station on the day [Gore] walked in, doesn't remember any communication from superiors about Gore. A kid with Gore's background (a 134 IQ and a Harvard degree), he said, didn't need to be a senator's son with high-level contacts to get the military job he wanted: "You pretty much got your choice of assignments."

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/gorevietnam.asp
 
[quote name='camoor']I think he is a great man. However his wife is a bit hysterical for my tastes.[/QUOTE]
agree 100%

fuck the PMRC

Lieberman can suck it too
 
I didn't say that was a bad thing, if he had actually refused to fight in an unjust war that is certainly a plus. I just didn't know that he actually went to Vietnam (in any capacity). I wasn't necessarily claiming that you were wrong, only that I assumed he had remained in the US, Britain or Canada like almost all of our current politicians (who it turns out actually support a war exactly like Vietnam). If he ran for president he would get my vote.
 
[quote name='miker8']I didn't say that was a bad thing, if he had actually refused to fight in an unjust war that is certainly a plus. I just didn't know that he actually went to Vietnam (in any capacity). I wasn't necessarily claiming that you were wrong, only that I assumed he had remained in the US, Britain or Canada like almost all of our current politicians (who it turns out actually support a war exactly like Vietnam). If he ran for president he would get my vote.[/QUOTE]

gotcha

i misunderstood your point and i apologize if i was at all harsh in response
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']agree 100%

fuck the PMRC

Lieberman can suck it too[/QUOTE]

You seem to really like Gore, the biggest and most powerful supporter of two people you hate. I think you need to do some more reasearch, you'll find he's alot like Liberman in some regards and was basically the Senate errand boy for Tipper during the PMRC senate hearings, etc., etc.

I like Gore somewhat, at least he (unlike that vast majority of politicians) has something that seemingly resembles a sense of humor. However I also sometimes disagree with his stance on a handful of things and even more so with the people whom he shared/shares his power with. Therefore, in principle, I can't ever really fully support him.
 
What a stupid thread title. I'm sure if someone posted: What are your thoughts on this American hero?

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You'd feel the same way.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']What a stupid thread title. I'm sure if someone posted: What are your thoughts on this American hero?


You'd feel the same way.[/QUOTE]

Well he did start a thread called, "What are your thoughts of this man?" with a picture of the president and a statement inside that read,

"I'd say he's an American Hero... not unlike G.I. Joe... or Jesse Jackson.

Also a fairly snappy dresser."

about a month ago. It's about halfway down the main page.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']You seem to really like Gore, the biggest and most powerful supporter of two people you hate.[/QUOTE]

I don't need to do more research.

I stand by my post, because I'm right.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']What a stupid thread title. I'm sure if someone posted: What are your thoughts on this American hero?

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You'd feel the same way.[/QUOTE]

i actually made that thread about a month ago, chachi.

and it ruled.

george bush gets up every day and protects your freedom to say stupid crap like that.

phail
 
Personally, I never really liked him, as I used to consider myself a republican. Now I'm a libertarian, or more specifically, an anarcho-capitalist, and I generally dislike republicans and democrats. But I suppose I can at least appreciate Al Gore's support for the internet, so he may be better than some democrats.
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']igeorge bush gets up every day and protects your freedom to say stupid crap like that.[/quote]

If he's protecting my freedom, it makes me wish he would sleep in more often.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']If he's protecting my freedom, it makes me wish he would sleep in more often.[/QUOTE]
Well arent you just mr. anti-american. Or maybe you would like more suicide bombings and terrorist attacks in your area?
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']I don't need to do more research.

I stand by my post, because I'm right.[/QUOTE]

Without you getting all bent out of shape about it, I'd like to hear why you think you're so right. I mean your mini-biography didn't list any real achievements of Gore besides helping build up the internet for so long (and no "his" accomplishments as VP don't exactly count, I can't recall the accomplishments of an entire administration ever being linked to just the VP). Basically all you've convinced me off is that you think Gore is an American hero. That's cool, then you stated you disliked two people that Gore has been a full supporter of always and will be in the future. For example, the PMRC essentially drew attention and tried to bully those hearings thanks in large part to Gore himself, but you hate the PMRC and what it's done? So, instead of being a politicican you back (and vote for), now he's an American hero? That's a pretty elevated status IMO. Maybe "American hero" means different things for you and I, and like I said I do like the guy to some extent, but you asked for my thoughts and I'm just giving them to you.
 
Okay, let's get into the BS "substance" of your slobbering hero worship.

[quote name='PKRipp3r']Was elected President Of The United States in 2000, however due to no serving Senator coming to the aid of the Congressional Black Caucus who challenged the Supreme Court's decision to award Florida's electoral votes to George W. Bush, the will of the people was ignored and President Gore was never sworn in.[/quote]

Other than no senator objecting to the electoral count, this is an out-and-out lie. Total bullshit.

[quote name='PKRipp3r']Currently leading the fight against global climate change, including his starring role in the documentary An Inconvenient Truth, in which he characterizes the issue not as a political one, but a moral one.[/QUOTE]

Should read "currently fear-mongering the issue of global warming, depicting a 20-foot (240-inch) sea level rise by 2100 in his fear-mongering 'documentary' while most scientsts (and most recently the IPCC) expect 7 to 23 inches."
 
[quote name='D4rkN1ght']Well arent you just mr. anti-american. Or maybe you would like more suicide bombings and terrorist attacks in your area?[/QUOTE]
Support Bush or support more terrorist attacks? Those are my only two choices? I think you need to read more.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Okay, let's get into the BS "substance" of your slobbering hero worship.



Other than no senator objecting to the electoral count, this is an out-and-out lie. Total bullshit.



Should read "currently fear-mongering the issue of global warming, depicting a 20-foot (240-inch) sea level rise by 2100 in his fear-mongering 'documentary' while most scientsts (and most recently the IPCC) expect 7 to 23 inches."[/QUOTE]

no you're wrong

the congressional black caucus tried to block the florida electoral votes and asked repeatedly on the floor for someone to co-sponsor which they needed or else it couldn't fly. nobody answered that call even though they knew what was happening, the election was stolen.

Gore was elected

but the Supreme Court gave it to Bush

it's not my opinion

those are the facts

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GORE: The chair is advised by the parliamentarian that section 17 of title 3, United States Code, prescribes a single procedure for resolution of either an objection to a certificate or other questions arising in the matter. That includes a point of order that a quorum is not present.

The chair rules on the advice of the parliamentarian that the point order that a quorum is not present is subject to the requirement that it be in writing and signed by both a member of the House of Representatives and a senator. Is the point of order in writing and signed not only by member of the House of representatives, but also a senator?

DEUTSCH: It is in writing, but I do not have a senator.

GORE: The point order may not be received.

HASTINGS: Mr. President, and I take great pride in calling you that, I must object because of the overwhelming evidence of official misconduct, deliberate fraud and an attempt to suppress...

GORE: The chair...

HASTINGS: ... voter turnout.

GORE: The chair must remind members that under session 18 of title 3, United States Code, no debate is allowed in the joint session.

HASTINGS: Thank you, Mr. President.

To answer your question, Mr. President, the objection is in writing, signed by a number of members of the House of Representatives but not by a member of the Senate.

Thank you, Mr. President.

WATERS: I rise to object to the fraudulent 25 Florida electoral votes.

GORE: Is the objection in writing and signed by member of the House and a senator?

WATERS: The objection is in writing, and I don't care that it is not it is not signed by a member of the Senate.

REP. BOB FILNER (D), CALIFORNIA: I have an objection to the electoral votes from Florida.

GORE: Is the objection in writing? Is it signed by a member of the House of Representatives and a senator?

FILNER: No, it is not in writing, but I rise in solidarity with my colleagues who have previously expressed their objection.

GORE: The chair thanks the gentleman from Illinois, but -- hey.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLACK: There were 13 objections in all, 12 from minority group members in the House of Representatives, last one saw was Bob Filner, who's a Democrat from California, a former professor, a big supporter of Al Gore, and clearly was just moved by the emotion of the moment.

They were all gavelled down. It was a great irony for the vice president. Here were some of his biggest supporters in the House of Representatives. He was clearly sympathetic, understood what they were trying to do, but he went right by the book. There was no debate allowed under the law that governs this joint session. There is also -- no objection can be heard unless it is signed by a House member and a senator.

Not a single senator would join members of the Congressional Black Caucus, much to their dismay. About a dozen members of the caucus walked out in protest, to protest the Florida vote, and then had a press conference in the gallery.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0101/06/se.02.html
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and if you think An Inconvenient Truth is fearmongering then you're either not paying attention to the scientific reports about global climate change, or you just don't understand them.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']Without you getting all bent out of shape about it, I'd like to hear why you think you're so right. I mean your mini-biography didn't list any real achievements of Gore besides helping build up the internet for so long (and no "his" accomplishments as VP don't exactly count, I can't recall the accomplishments of an entire administration ever being linked to just the VP). Basically all you've convinced me off is that you think Gore is an American hero. That's cool, then you stated you disliked two people that Gore has been a full supporter of always and will be in the future. For example, the PMRC essentially drew attention and tried to bully those hearings thanks in large part to Gore himself, but you hate the PMRC and what it's done? So, instead of being a politicican you back (and vote for), now he's an American hero? That's a pretty elevated status IMO. Maybe "American hero" means different things for you and I, and like I said I do like the guy to some extent, but you asked for my thoughts and I'm just giving them to you.[/QUOTE]
He's an American Hero
it's self evident

i don't need to defend his status as one of the greatest human beings to ever be born in America

that's recorded history

Gore will save the world

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i'm SUPER serial
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']no you're wrong

the congressional black caucus tried to block the florida electoral votes and asked repeatedly on the floor for someone to co-sponsor which they needed or else it couldn't fly. nobody answered that call even though they knew what was happening, the election was stolen.

Gore was elected

but the Supreme Court gave it to Bush

it's not my opinion

those are the facts

[/QUOTE]

You really are an attention whore, aren't you?

It doesn't matter if Gore got ALL the votes in Florida, it doesn't mean that he won. The Electorial College voters are not bound to vote the way the people do. It's been over six years and people still can't seem to get that in their heads. The EC voters could vote for Al Sharpton if they wanted to and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it except for the party not nominating them anymore.

And if you're going to bring up that lame 'popular vote' crap, see Samuel Tilden and Grover Cleveland. Gore was never elected either, because the popular vote means exactly jack and shit. It's the way to balance the power between the cities and the rural districts.

OMG, all were democrats...Teh c0nspir@ci3z!!!!!

As for Gore, I don't entirely disagree with his policies, but I definetly disagree with his delivery. He's also so far off-base about his land conservation ideas it's not funny. I voted against him in 2000 for that issue alone and I'm damn proud of it.
 
Oh, one more thing: Congress can't do a damn thing about how they vote because they are controlled by the states. The CBC could threaten to set fire to the Capitol and it wouldn't have changed a thing.

It's funny people think Congress or the Supreme Court elected Bush, it was the EC voters in every state that had the final say. Congress can't void votes unless the canidate does not meet the requirements (ie not of age, dead).
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Oh, one more thing: Congress can't do a damn thing about how they vote because they are controlled by the states. The CBC could threaten to set fire to the Capitol and it wouldn't have changed a thing.

It's funny people think Congress or the Supreme Court elected Bush, it was the EC voters in every state that had the final say. Congress can't void votes unless the canidate does not meet the requirements (ie not of age, dead).[/QUOTE]

Has the electoral college of a state ever gone against the official popular vote in US history? I don't think so. The supreme court overruling the Florida state supreme court's judgment that the recount should continue, they set the stage for Kathrine Harris to certify the vote prematurely. To claim that after all that recounting, fraud, phony protests, etc. the EC was going to vote contrary to the outcome of the official popular vote count is disingenuous. Could they? Sure. Would they? No.

The fix was in in Florida, and before the election took place. If the same situation happened in Bulgaria the US wouldn't consider it valid.
 
[quote name='Cheese']Has the electoral college of a state ever gone against the official popular vote in US history? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]

Incorrect. 158 votes have changed, 71 of those by someone being dead though.

That's the problem, there is no national popular vote. The networks tabulate it as if it matters, but it has no relevant meaning. States are supposed to use their popular vote in order to determine EC voters. You never are truly voting for a P/VP ticket, you are voting for a ECV ticket.

I've yet to this day seen any concrete evidence that recounting would have changed the outcome, regardless of what anyone may think. There was going to be controversy either way it went, and both sides were going to pull the shenanigans card.

While the ruling party has power over SecState and the voting procedures, actual enforcement comes down to the local governments, which the counties in question were all Democratic. So some people could call shenanigans with Harris, others could say the comittees in the counties in question were morons. The latter is my personal opinion moreso than the first.

And I still don't see how there can be so much disagreement over Florida, it's not as if they didn't elect the AG under Jeb Bush as their governor. So it's not impossible that the votes weren't fairly accurate. I also fail to see if there was so much distrust for the Bush family and Republicans in general in the state why they elected Crist. Unless of course someone wants to play the conspiracy card again.
 
I think if he had ran instead of John Kerry we may have had a different outcome in the previous election. Regardless of political views, John Kerry seems very stand-offish, out of touch with the common man (despite what he tries to portray), and aloof. Not to mention his shrew of a wife. Not that Gore was a warm fuzzy teddy bear, he had all the personality of a block of wood, but he seemed more likeable IMO.

I think Gore realized the mess in Iraq is sometihng he wanted no part of though. I really don't see why anyone would want to take that challenege. It's a lose/lose situation.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I think if he had ran instead of John Kerry we may have had a different outcome in the previous election. Regardless of political views, John Kerry seems very stand-offish, out of touch with the common man (despite what he tries to portray), and aloof. Not to mention his shrew of a wife. Not that Gore was a warm fuzzy teddy bear, he had all the personality of a block of wood, but he seemed more likeable IMO.

I think Gore realized the mess in Iraq is sometihng he wanted no part of though. I really don't see why anyone would want to take that challenege. It's a lose/lose situation.[/QUOTE]


If the DNC had the competence of a 10-year old girl, they would have won both elections, regardless of any conspiracy theories. Problem is, they didn't cultivate anyone those last three years besides Mr. Oak. They all assumed the title would be passed down and it bit them in the ass.

And after the colossal fuckups in 2002 and 2003, the 04 election should have been a slam dunk. Instead we get JFK lite and Ken Nugent. I can see why people buy into the 'fix' theory...there should have been no way in hell Bush should have ever been elected the way the country was going in 99 and 2000.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']If the DNC had the competence of a 10-year old girl, they would have won both elections, regardless of any conspiracy theories. Problem is, they didn't cultivate anyone those last three years besides Mr. Oak. They all assumed the title would be passed down and it bit them in the ass.

And after the colossal fuckups in 2002 and 2003, the 04 election should have been a slam dunk. Instead we get JFK lite and Ken Nugent. I can see why people buy into the 'fix' theory...there should have been no way in hell Bush should have ever been elected the way the country was going in 99 and 2000.[/quote]

I honestly think the american government needs a major overhaul, I just have no idea where to start.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I honestly think the american government needs a major overhaul, I just have no idea where to start.[/QUOTE]

Remove politician from the job category? :shrug:
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Remove politician from the job category? :shrug:[/quote]

Anarchy! j/k :lol:

I don't know, everything seems just so bloated and overdone in government. I think the people have less and less influence on the politicians that represent them.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA'] The Electorial College voters are not bound to vote the way the people do..[/QUOTE]

i never once claimed that they were

try reading what i wrote instead of responding blindly to what you WISH i wrote

;)
 
[quote name='Cheese']Has the electoral college of a state ever gone against the official popular vote in US history? I don't think so. The supreme court overruling the Florida state supreme court's judgment that the recount should continue, they set the stage for Kathrine Harris to certify the vote prematurely. To claim that after all that recounting, fraud, phony protests, etc. the EC was going to vote contrary to the outcome of the official popular vote count is disingenuous. Could they? Sure. Would they? No.

The fix was in in Florida, and before the election took place. If the same situation happened in Bulgaria the US wouldn't consider it valid.[/QUOTE]

everything you just said is 100% true
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']
I don't know, everything seems just so bloated and overdone in government. I think the people have less and less influence on the politicians that represent them.[/QUOTE]

Bingo. We've gone from (sorta) self-representation to a popularity contest.

I still wish we had a House of Commons scenario where the big boys have to do a Q&A in front of our representatives.

But maybe that's because I still giggle when some fat drunk from Essex calls Blair 'a cheeky fellow.'
 
[quote name='camoor']That doesn't sound like PKZipper - I think his username must have been hijacked.

Or he's really wasted :lol:[/QUOTE]

Dude the only time I DO post is when I'm wasted

:lol:

It makes cockcheese's comments about 1,000 times funnier

:lol:

Especially when he calls me an 'attention whore' then proceeds to reply several times to my posts

he just can't help himself. :lol:

*sits back and watches it all unfold while chuckling*
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']Dude the only time I DO post is when I'm wasted

[/QUOTE]

That explains everything. That is legal for you to do, right?
 
this seems like someone who is an American Hero

"According to press accounts, former vice-president Al Gore arranged and at least partially paid for the airlift evacuation of 270 patients from Charity Hospital in New Orleans on September 3 and 4, 2005 after being notified of desperate conditions at the facility by Dr. David Kline, a neurosurgeon who once treated Gore's son after an automobile accident. The first group of 140 patients was transferred to Knoxville, Tennessee, while the second group, numbering 130, was airlifted to Chatanooga.

To date, Gore himself has not spoken publicly of these actions. "

Did more than our current president did Mr. Acoustic Guitar
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']Mr. Acoustic Guitar[/QUOTE]

??

Anyways, cool story. I had heard that one a few months after it happened. There was someone else who did something similar, I don't remember who it was.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']Bush during Katrina

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Aug. 30, 2005[/QUOTE]

Hey, we all know that there is great research into using audio waves to knock out humans. The President was just doing his part to knock the hurricane down a notch or two.

And it worked, too. Katrina hit as a 3 and not a 4 or 5. Show some more respect for your leader, dammit.




























:D
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Hey, we all know that there is great research into using audio waves to knock out humans. The President was just doing his part to knock the hurricane down a notch or two.

And it worked, too. Katrina hit as a 3 and not a 4 or 5. Show some more respect for your leader, dammit.








:D[/QUOTE]

I personally cant wait till 2009 when he goes on his world tour with Garth Brooks
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']no you're wrong

Gore was elected

but the Supreme Court gave it to Bush

it's not my opinion

those are the facts[/quote]

Nothing you posted had anything to do with your made-up "fact" that Gore was elected. I knew House members objected. Nobody denies that. What I deny is, again, your made-up "fact" that Gore was elected when all the facts point to Bush having been elected.

and if you think An Inconvenient Truth is fearmongering then you're either not paying attention to the scientific reports about global climate change, or you just don't understand them.
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Way to sidestep my specific argument by speaking generally. Go back and read what I wrote and give me a good response to why Gore inflated sea-level rise by a factor of 20, then tell me why that isn't fear-mongering. I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long time for a good answer.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I honestly think the american government needs a major overhaul, I just have no idea where to start.[/QUOTE]

Step 1: Kill the Democratic and Republican parties.
Step 2: Reap the benefits.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']



I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long time for a good answer.[/QUOTE]

I already answered you, you just didn't like the answer

You're not afraid of global climate change?

super

so why does what some random person posts on the internet spin you into such a tizzy?

seems inconsistent to me.. but that IS your m.o. so i shouldn't really be surprised
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']this seems like someone who is an American Hero

"According to press accounts, former vice-president Al Gore arranged and at least partially paid for the airlift evacuation of 270 patients from Charity Hospital in New Orleans on September 3 and 4, 2005 after being notified of desperate conditions at the facility by Dr. David Kline, a neurosurgeon who once treated Gore's son after an automobile accident. The first group of 140 patients was transferred to Knoxville, Tennessee, while the second group, numbering 130, was airlifted to Chatanooga.

To date, Gore himself has not spoken publicly of these actions. "

Did more than our current president did Mr. Acoustic Guitar[/QUOTE]

agree

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he didn't land the plane because he doesn't care about black people
 
[quote name='Cheese']The supreme court overruling the Florida state supreme court's judgment that the recount should continue, they set the stage for Kathrine Harris to certify the vote prematurely.[/quote]
The US Supreme Court overruled the Florida Supreme Court's decision to continue the recounts and told them that they must abide by the laws they already had in place in that state. The laws stated that the Florida election MUST be certified by (insert date here) and any county that hadn't certified its results by then were to have their results ignored, and the election commission fined $x/day.

What the Florida supreme court was doing was granting infinite recounts in violation of Florida election laws. A conspiracy theorist might state that it was because they were majority Dem and wanted to see a different result than that that was about to be certified. [I am not a conspiracy theorist.]

Consider that later, after the media recounts were done, Bush still won by a razor-thin margin.

In conclusion, "Was elected President Of The United States in 2000" is false.

If the DNC had the competence of a 10-year old girl, they would have won both elections, regardless of any conspiracy theories.
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Absolute truth. We'll see if they develop brains over the next 18-20 months. I'm guessing it's likely, but part of that is the RNC having the competence of a 10-year-old girl.

he didn't land the plane because he doesn't care about black people
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Neither does Kanye West.
 
[quote name='Iron Clad Burrito']Consider that later, after the media recounts were done, Bush still won by a razor-thin margin.[/QUOTE]

That's 50/50. If the recount continued in the three counties Gore was asking for, Bush would have still won, but a statewide recount, which the FLSC had ordered had gone through, Gore would have won. The USSC main decision was that it was unfair to conduct a recount without a standardized system statewide, and it was too late in the game to install one.

With the felon purge fiasco, the phony RNC-staffer protest that shut down the hand recount, the observers of the undervotes nitpicking, the legal haranguing and the convenience of Bush having the Florida Secretary of State as his campaign co-chair, not to mention his brother as the governor, to say that the vote was 100% legit is burying your head in the sand.
 
[quote name='Cheese']That's 50/50. If the recount continued in the three counties Gore was asking for, Bush would have still won, but a statewide recount, which the FLSC had ordered had gone through, Gore would have won. The USSC main decision was that it was unfair to conduct a recount without a standardized system statewide, and it was too late in the game to install one.

With the felon purge fiasco, the phony RNC-staffer protest that shut down the hand recount, the observers of the undervotes nitpicking, the legal haranguing and the convenience of Bush having the Florida Secretary of State as his campaign co-chair, not to mention his brother as the governor, to say that the vote was 100% legit is burying your head in the sand.[/QUOTE]

it's so true, that this issue can be used as a litmus test for who has their head buried in the sand and who doesn't

anybody who thinks the 2000 election was won fair and square is either uniformed, wildly biased, or just not very smart

if Al Gore had been allowed to assume the office, the United States would be far better off today. so would the entire world.

fact

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[quote name='PKRipp3r']it's so true, that this issue can be used as a litmus test for who has their head buried in the sand and who doesn't

anybody who thinks the 2000 election was won fair and square is either uniformed, wildly biased, or just not very smart

if Al Gore had been allowed to assume the office, the United States would be far better off today. so would the entire world.

fact

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:rofl:
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']:rofl:[/QUOTE]

more chaff

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toss it on the pile with the rest

Al will use it to power the midwest when all the crude oil reserves run dry

awesome rebuttal though!

:rofl:
 
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