What happened to the camraderie on this site?

slidecage:
your prices are fine and i can see what you mean by your first post explaining fees and such hey that's cool 2 or 3 dollar profit is no problems with me.

what bothers me is your post on the tru thread quoted "all of these games are 99% going back so make offers on other games you have"

so you bought a bunch of games knowing you're going to return them if you didn't get any profit?
 
ya just gotta find a good toys r us and get there early, if not your kinda taking you chances, sometimes you win sometimes you dont, thats kinda of a given here at CAG
i personally like it, i win some (RE4) and lose mostly actually, lol
mostly i dont get the really cool stuff

anyway thanks to all who post deals, no bad blood here, Cheap on CAGer's
 
No doubt there are members here just to lurk and arise to say their store didnt have such and such game and try to find a good hearted CAG to help them out. There are those that buy stuff up in order to make a profit.

I started out being, and to some extent still am, someone that will load up the cc to purchase a few multiples and try to help people out. There were a few people here that helped me out. For the majority of me thinking I was helping people out and would be helped in return further down the road, I was right on a few, but 90% were nice to me long enough to get what they wanted and run. Win some lose some. After this last round of TRU stuff, its a safe bet I wont be as willing anymore to help out or break even. The majority of this site has the "all about me" attitude. I got helped out on 2 of 3 games I didnt get to snag from TRU. The one I didnt get, lots of people here had. I didnt want it bad enough to trade more than one TRU game they missed. Fine, its rare, its worth more to you than it is me. I can live with that. I sold a few RE4's at cost plus 5.00 to cover s/h and all that good shite. CAG is definately at the point where more people want help than those that are willing to help. It gets hard not being helped as much as Im helping others. I havent hoarded any sales and I still wont. Ill get enough for me and to spread the wealth and start keeping my hauls to myself and become extremely picky about who I choose to help.
 
[quote name='Stink_Pickle']No doubt there are members here just to lurk and arise to say their store didnt have such and such game and try to find a good hearted CAG to help them out. There are those that buy stuff up in order to make a profit.

I started out being, and to some extent still am, someone that will load up the cc to purchase a few multiples and try to help people out. There were a few people here that helped me out. For the majority of me thinking I was helping people out and would be helped in return further down the road, I was right on a few, but 90% were nice to me long enough to get what they wanted and run. Win some lose some. After this last round of TRU stuff, its a safe bet I wont be as willing anymore to help out or break even. The majority of this site has the "all about me" attitude. I got helped out on 2 of 3 games I didnt get to snag from TRU. The one I didnt get, lots of people here had. I didnt want it bad enough to trade more than one TRU game they missed. Fine, its rare, its worth more to you than it is me. I can live with that. I sold a few RE4's at cost plus 5.00 to cover s/h and all that good shite. CAG is definately at the point where more people want help than those that are willing to help. It gets hard not being helped as much as Im helping others. I havent hoarded any sales and I still wont. Ill get enough for me and to spread the wealth and start keeping my hauls to myself and become extremely picky about who I choose to help.[/QUOTE]

i agree with the being picky about who to hook up or at least research their past relative to cag. as for the game, which one was it? i'll keep an eye out for you. if its dds, then as of friday they didn't have it. i plan on making a second trip soon.
 
Just out of curiosity. What if two people walk into a store and one notices the other grabbing all the good games (in all likelihood to resell). How do you feel about the person who sees this, not intending to horde in the first place, decide to horde some good stuff because the other guy (who wants to sell it) will take it anyway?

I ran into a guy from fat wallet the other day. I had a list and so did he. I had duplicates on about 3 or 4 things. Later, at the counter, the clerk said "you buying a lot of gifts?" I said "ya, most are mine and the doubles are gifts", so the other guy heard me and yells that I just saw them on fatwallet and am going to sell them on ebay. I think he was aggravated I took a bunch of good games (like re4 and metal slug) and he didn't get them. He grabbed a ton of ff dawn of souls though, though they seem to be one of the most plentiful GBA titles.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23'] I think he was aggravated I took a bunch of good games (like re4 and metal slug) and he didn't get them. He grabbed a ton of ff dawn of souls though, though they seem to be one of the most plentiful GBA titles.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Nice, he'll probably try to ebay them and with all the bootlegs out there he's going to be in for a surprise.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Just out of curiosity. What if two people walk into a store and one notices the other grabbing all the good games (in all likelihood to resell). How do you feel about the person who sees this, not intending to horde in the first place, decide to horde some good stuff because the other guy (who wants to sell it) will take it anyway?
[/QUOTE]

it's all caveman after that. get while the gettin is good...i took half of what was at tru in terms of RE4 to spread throughout cag. i went back that night and got the rest for cagers. i think i gave them enough time. the problem is i didn't know what was going to be most requested or i would have gotten the metal slugs and the others.

nowadays i think that if your intention is to leave something behind for johnny gamer to pick up, then you are living a lie. 5 minutes after you leave the store. john d. fatwallet is going to come in the store with a list in hand and clean the shelf.

i leave some but not many...if 10 hours later the ones i left behind are still there, i have to assume no one cares about a $10 RE4 to come and get it.
 
I think Im gonna have a little more vigilant way of shopping when it comes to these deals. Buy what I want, get some for trade bait, maybe some to ebay quick and flip, turn around and buy what I want vs haggling with people that have to squeeze every drop of blood from me. Less hassle, no headache. Im sure going that route Ill get bitched at for putting stuff on ebay.
 
[quote name='gaelan']

nowadays i think that if your intention is to leave something behind for johnny gamer to pick up, then you are living a lie. 5 minutes after you leave the store. john d. fatwallet is going to come in the store with a list in hand and clean the shelf.

i leave some but not many...if 10 hours later the ones i left behind are still there, i have to assume no one cares about a $10 RE4 to come and get it.[/QUOTE]

That's usually true, but not always. The toys r us in salem, nh still had psychonauts, metal slug 4/5, pikmin 2 and re4 as of today.
 
One of the thing I love about living in Iowa is that I don't have to worry about people cleaning out stores. I went in to my only local TRU a few hours after it opened on the 22ed, and was able to get the three games (RE4, FF I&II, Pariah) I wanted. When I went back today they still had quite a few $10 games (including 30 or so copies of Doom 3), and I was able to pick up two other games (Killzone and F Zero GX) I wanted.
While it's nice that I don't have to worry about people clearing out stores, my options are somewhat limited by my location. I only have one TRU, three Targets, two Best Buys, two Gamestops, one EB, and not a single Circuit City or Gamerush within 100 miles.
 
I'm all for anyone's right to complain about people being assholes. Some people are just assholes and you shouldn't deal with them. This situation is a perfect example of a free market and the laws of supply and demand. Games = money = time. If you got a chance to pick up free money and you pass on it, that's your choice. Don't blame other people for taking an opportunity when it is presented to them. If you don't like someone's business practices, don't deal with them - that's all you can do about it. Well, that and maybe cry about it. Blame TRU for selling to 'vendors' or blame them for dumping on the market, but you can't blame people for trying to make money. Profit is human nature.

What people seem to be the most upset about are the people who are in the right place at the right time and get some unfair advantage during one of these clearance sales. Buck up campers, that's the way real life works - random chance and luck with a little bit of ingenuity and risk. Life just isn't fair no matter how anyone tries to make it so.

That being said, I don't like hoarders any more than the rest of you. I don't do it and I don't buy from people who do it. Now stop your bellyaching and remember that these are just games. We're not talking about gold here, or food, or clothing - they're GAMES. All in all, not very important items in the scope of your life like things that have real meaning such as food, friends, and family.

They're videogames, people, get over it.
 
All I can say for this site, for every helpful person I've met here, I've also ran into an asshole.

For every person that has taken the time to respond to one of my posts, or PM an answer to one of my questions, I've had some asshole (usually some lurker with maybe one post to their name) PM asking me to trade, and sell various video games I might have mentioned owning, or I have had jerks beg me for registration codes to PC games so they can play for free using my account (that I pay to play), and various other video game related scams and idiocy.

I've decided to take the route of just trying to ignore these asshats. And if you ever PM'ed me, and didn't get a response, it was probably because you were an asshole.
 
What bugs me the most is not the people that make a reasonable profit for themselves, that I can understand. What bothers me the most is people bragging about being assholes.

I reponded to a post in the bragging right forum a few weeks ago where someone was bragging about finding a copy of DDR Mario Mix cheap and selling it for more than double the cost .. somewhere near $100. To top it off ... when I posted in his bragging thread he said that *I* didn't know what it meant to be a CAG. Now maybe I dont find the most deals, but I do try to post the ones I do find like the MTC info in the regional thread for Dallas. Overall though, I do think I have more of an idea what CAG is than that guy.
 
For as long as I've been here, nobody has ever been willing to help me out on anything except two people, who I'm not going to name since they know who they are. The deals never went through, but they offered.

Being in Canada, I can understand people not wanting to help me, but when the Canadian TRU deal was up, I helped some people out and got games for them, as well as said I'd help anyone who wanted to give me a list of what they wanted. It'd be nice for favors to be returned, but I've given up on asking since it falls on deaf ears.
 
[quote name='iheartmetal']jmmie mac killed it[/QUOTE]


No, no, no, he's saving us. You don't understand, see without him, we'd all be bored when we're on CAG. Or some bullshit answer like that. Just wait, his reply to this will be similar to what I said.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']
They're videogames, people, get over it.[/QUOTE]

I think the main issue here is not the content but the actions.

Also, its nice to have that extra $40 for food when you can pick up a $50 game you wanted for ten bucks on sale. I don't know about the rest of you guys, because I think the majority of CAG is way over my age, but I'm a first year college student. I'm not poor by any means, and I live at home to cut costs since the college is pretty much in my backyard (quite handy), but I like to have money to go out with friends, to buy my girlfriend things, and to eat out once in awhile.

When I'm spending $80 canadian a pop per game, thats hard to do. I work 14 hours a week making $8.50 an hour, and while I don't live paycheck-to-paycheck like a lot of my friends do, I do have to cut corners once in awhile if theres a week or two where I really want to pick up 2-3 games. These games aren't necessities, but I attend school for ten hours a day, go home and do homework for anywhere from one to six more hours; I'd like to be able to relax, and continue this plan until I'm done college in six years. The cheapness of games helps. Thats why we're here.

So in short; cut the "its just games" crap. This website is BASED on getting cheap games. While it's not part of the jurisdiction to help out CAG's, favors get returned, and names get remembered.
 
Funny, I gave away the only copy of RE4 that I found at TRU and now I want another . . .

So, I posted a trade thread . . . Dark Cloud 2 for RE4 . . . granted its a stretch and I won't find anyone to do it . . . but then I get thread crapped by someone saying its an "unfair" trade . . .

Let's see one $10 game for another . . . but no, we have to go by Fatwallet logic . . .

I guess I do see what is happening to CAG.

see here:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79501
 
[quote name='schultzed']Funny, I gave away the only copy of RE4 that I found at TRU and now I want another . . .

So, I posted a trade thread . . . Dark Cloud 2 for RE4 . . . granted its a stretch and I won't find anyone to do it . . . but then I get thread crapped by someone saying its an "unfair" trade . . .

Let's see one $10 game for another . . . but no, we have to go by Fatwallet logic . . .

I guess I do see what is happening to CAG.

see here:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79501[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, I'm sure the people who call that an unfair trade will also flame someone trying to unload the ten copies of RE4 or DDS they got for $10 for $30 a piece.

Perceived value is all well and good, since 99% of the time you don't know how much someone paid for their copy of a game, but when your intent is to trade a game you bought for $10 for a game that someone else bought for $10, value isn't really an issue unless the person is set on profitting from it.

I haven't been here forever (more like 6 months) but I've been around long enough to see how things work for the most part. There are a lot of CAGs who I enjoy chatting with and provide value to the forums. But there are also a number of people who seem to be more interested in making themselves seem more important than others than contributing to the community. Whether this comes in the form of tearing into newbies for posting location or topic or taking any opportunity to put down others for errors in logic or syntax or information, it gets annoying after a time (and no, "REPOST!" isn't a bad post, but "Hey, stupid motherfucker, why don't you go check with your mom before posting in the wrong forum" is ;)).

Overall, I love CAG or I wouldn't be posting here anymore. A few bad apples can make it tedious at times but you can't escape that in any forum.
 
I woulndt worry about his comment on what an unfair trade is. His offer of Mario Pinball opened for my area 51 wasnt exactly fair either. When I told him I snagged it at KB, he cut off trade talks. If you still need RE4 lmk, while I dont have an interest, Ill try to work something else out. Hit me with a pm.
 
This site still has a lot of great people helping each other out. Out of the blue without me even asking, yeah-yeah PMed me asking if I wanted a copy of RE4 because he knew I was debating whether to buy the GCN or PS2 version a few weeks ago (well before the TRU clearance). Anyway, I paypaled him $14.18 - the EXACT amount it cost him to get it to me and the game arrived 3 days later. Have faith.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']That's usually true, but not always. The toys r us in salem, nh still had psychonauts, metal slug 4/5, pikmin 2 and re4 as of today.[/QUOTE]

Really? I was there yesterday and there was nothing - must be a restock. They did have those games out on the floor as empty cases though but nothing behind the counter (I asked). Oh well, too bad I'm about 300 miles from there today or I'd try again...
 
I thank you guys for all the deals. I know I don't have a trader rating but I'm laying low to see who's trustworthy. I'm not lurking to get all the deals. I've tried to make a few trades but since I'm a newer member with a zero trader rating, everyone seems to think I'll accept a trade where I get raped in the ass. On top of it, they want me to smile and be appreciative for getting raped in the ass. This TRU sale is the first one I've been able to get on in the first day. I picked up 5 games and left the rest for all of you, the fatwallet guys, and the ebay hoarders. I could've gone and picked up 35 games to pass on to all of you but I don't really have alot of disposable cash around the holidays.

I love the thrill of an unadvertised sale. The best look in the world is when I go up to a register with 5 games and it rings up to $51.24. The parents at the register next to me demanded their games to be 10 dollars. Of course, the employees had no idea about the sale and said I made a lucky guess. I started laughing and left. If the parents hadn't been such dicks to the employees, I might have left the list or told them about the site.
 
I have noticed a general decline in comraderie here, but it isn't so bad, I guess. I'm talking more in terms of flaming and insulting one another; is it really necessary?

As for trading, I rarely do it anymore, but if I come across a deal I think is good, I'll post it and offer to pick up a copy of something if it is probably YMMV. i.e., I found Indigo Prophecy (retail $40) at Wal-Mart for $15 new in the clearance bin. So I posted it and offered to pick up some copies for people.

Got a flood of PM's, but when I went to pick 'em up, they were gone. That's my fault for not buying impulsively (I didn't have the money to do so), but there were a BUNCH of people who wanted to pay me $100 bucks to buy them EVERY copy in the store (they had about 8 copies for Xbox and 7 copies for PS2). I don't mind doing that if you'll reimburse me, but I guess it is unfair to other people who only want one copy for themselves.

Also I understand we're CAGs, but can't we get something for it? When I posted it was $15.00, I had people ask me what tax % was in my area so that they could write me a check (for $16.87). C'mon, can't you round it up to $20? That's still 50% off, plus shipping.

And just in case anyone reading this was one of those PM'ers I don't hold any bad feelings or anything, I just figured this might contribute to the conversation at hand. I received about 30 PM's from that thread and only about 4 - 5 of them I even wanted to deal with.
 
[quote name='botticus']"Hey, stupid motherfucker, why don't you go check with your mom before posting in the wrong forum" is ;)). [/QUOTE]


Great, now I am going to be looking for this quote in the forums for the next two weeks.
 
In response to the question though, I have never had any problems the few times that I have traded and I owe over half of my library from this generation to the deals I have found here. I usually go into sales just looking for myself and will pick up extras of anything I know is sought here, never for profit. If I don't find what I want, I will attempt to trade but ultimately if I don't get in on a deal, it is not the end of the world.
 
It's just a part of getting big.

Every asshole in the world is going to find this place, especially after it has been posted up on huge blogs and newssites. Unfortunately the cat's out of the bag now, and there's no way it's ever going back in.
 
[quote name='theurbandictionary.com']

1. Golden Age Syndrome--
The exaggerated belief that something (politics, news, morals, video games) used to be substantially better than it is now, expressed usually with bitterness about the present condition. Often associated with long-time players of online RPGs.

Example: Jim keeps claiming the mud's rp was better back in the 90's, but he's just suffering from golden age syndrome [/quote]


..but I guess that makes me the asshole for pointing that out, right? :roll:
 
An opinion I have on people selling games is that, it's their property, don't buy if you don't want to spend. I have had several games on my TL in the past where, I only have one copy of the game, so my asking price is much higher. Everyone's got a price, so, if someone really wanted my GAME XYZ that I haven't played yet, it'll cost them what I feel is fair to sell it. I'm not talking like gouging ebay prices, but, when a game is being offered on CAG for $20 below retail, I think the buyer still has the advantage.
 
maybe things were better early on in CAG's life, but I don't know, as I joined a scant 9 months ago.

However, I am very happy that I did join, and I have learned my lesson (mostly by not having been blessed with another copy to possibly trade for some DS games) from the major flame job I got when I snagged that almost complete Valkyrie Profile back in... June?

The common uncommon game in my area has been Star Ocean: The Second Story. I've picked up 3 copies to trade since joining CAG. I've also seen 3 Zelda CEs and missed them all: first one due to my boyfriend not having such keen eyes and me having no money, second one due to me having no money again, and the third one landed in the evil clutches of my uncle, whom I have been versing in the ways of the cheap ass since he and my aunt snagged a Gamecube. Sometimes people get lucky, and sometimes people have the misfortune to be game shopping with one's evil genius relative.

I hope since (and before) the Valkyrie Profile debacle that I have been fair to people I've traded with on this site, and I will gladly check locally for sought-after items that are priced fairly (MightySlacker, I'm still looking for another XCom for you, my friend :) ).

I'll check the local TRU for Digital Devil Saga, since judging by the 4 Star Oceans, the Valkyrie, and the Legend of Mana that have passed through my hands, people here don't play RPGs. Wish me luck.

-sailorneorune
 
[quote name='Sailorneorune']maybe things were better early on in CAG's life, but I don't know, as I joined a scant 9 months ago.
[/QUOTE]

Some say it's gone downhill, but they're full of crap. It's the same as it ever was, just with more people.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Some say it's gone downhill, but they're full of crap. It's the same as it ever was, just with more people.[/QUOTE]


Q4T.

seems this thread is just taking up valuable bragging right/deal discussion space. ;)
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Some say it's gone downhill, but they're full of crap. It's the same as it ever was, just with more people.[/QUOTE]

:applause:
 
personally alot of hoarders at the stores i go to in san antonio are not CAGS.

I rarely see CAGS getting the good deals here in san anotnio or kingsville. I have never bought an extra copy of a cheap game to sell on ebay. i usually just grab one for myself and when i'm done with it it goes on my tradelist. Some times i see it as beating the non CAGs out and helping CAGS by listing them in my tradelist.
 
[quote name='Stink_Pickle']So with the recent CC sale...how many CAG's were helpful to you?[/QUOTE]
Hmm... you, and two other people, I think.
 
For my personal want, I was helped by 1 CAG'er. I did a couple of trades where the case was I had something they "wanted" and they had something I "could use" so it was all in all a win/win.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Some say it's gone downhill, but they're full of crap. It's the same as it ever was, just with more people.[/QUOTE]

no it has gone down hill big time.

1. Buying a Game on DEC 1 at STORE A and then buying a Game at STore B On Dec 4 , but then you return that game to STORE A is now okay

(before this was flammed for scamming the store )


you was able to get people to help one another but now its

YOU HELP ME BEFORE I HELP YOU.


one nice things i think the # of scammers has gone down major time thanks to the Mods kicking people off the site...


Really havent seen Much hoarding around these last sales , Though my cousin said she saw someone grabbing every single DS game at one CC
 
Wouldn't it be more logical to conclude that the nicer traders and people willing to help out with a sale are still here but they just make up a smaller percentage of the site? I see at least a thread a WEEK where some generous CAG is giving away games and schwag for a fun contest or whatever.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Wouldn't it be more logical to conclude that the nicer traders and people willing to help out with a sale are still here but they just make up a smaller percentage of the site? I see at least a thread a WEEK where some generous CAG is giving away games and schwag for a fun contest or whatever.[/QUOTE]

That is exactly the case. There are more generous people then ever on CAG. But the corollary is that there are more people who are trying to make a profit than ever before. Let's face it, we are all hoarders in one way or another. The design of this site is no different from fatwallet, slickdeals, bensbargains, or any other place like that. As a result, we are going to get more and more people like that. What you have to do is weed out the bad people, find others on CAG who can hook each other up, and form a community of honest CAGs who are here to play great video games cheaply.
 
I agree. I've run into a lot of people who are on CAG just for the deals and who don't bother to read the rest of the site. I've been called stupid by people when I tried to help some CAG'ers out or whatever. I don't know, I miss CAG the way it was when I first joined...it's only been a little over a year but so much has changed.
 
Nachzeher picked me up a DQ8 for cost+shipping and even sent it first. I'm poised to return the favor to him at some point...if he's ever on again :lol:.

There's still some good people 'round here.
 
Yes, I just got called out in another thread as being un-CAG-like when I politely suggested to someone that bragging about trade-in values was frowned upon, that they weren't really making as much "profit" as they thought on trading in most of the CC games when they considered tax/gas/time, and that they might be better off trying to save a game to trade for one they really want. My how things have changed (in less than a year)...

EDIT: For the record, from the CC sale I did one trade (even 1 for 1), one purchase, and one sale, all with fellow CAGers. Thanks to everyone who was pleasant to deal with, and those who were gracious even though they didn't have what I wanted or didn't need what I had to trade. I ended up with 3 out of 4 games I wanted from this sale. (I'm still looking for Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World and have 3 games left for trading with other CAGers.)
 
I think this thread has opened my eyes even more about dealing with hoarders and Trying to make a profit. I was about to become one, but now, I realize that Video Games are just not worth the profit, if there even is a profit.

I grew up loving Video Games, and I still do. But i think I was going about this ebay business of mine the wrong way. As someone told me in this forum, "Play games because you love them. PLay games because you're obsessive compulsive. Play game cause they're cheap."

And just hearing the horror stories of getting chargebacks with some video games on ebay is just making me uneasy. I think I'll deal with you guys better than scamming ebayers in the world....for the most part.:)

I'll hold on to some of my more rare games, but I think I'll start a tradelist soon. Thanks fellow CAGers.
 
i dunno, there are still real nice people here - and nice people arrive all the time - when i got here they'd just switched over to the new boards and everyone was like "it's all going to shit"


i've still saved a lot of money, learned about games i hadn't before, and felt a sense of community - maybe it was better before, but i'm happy.
 
For me, the only thing I really dislike about CAG getting larger is that it's tougher to keep up with the forums. When we were still small it was no problem to contribute to a lot of threads and not have to be checking back every few minutes to stay up to date.
 
IMHO.. real cag died when EBgames.com stopped having a morning update.. when i say real cag, i mean cags helping cags getting games they want.. everyone posted a link of a game they thought someone might want or thought was good.. we easily sold out many items at that site in the early mornings.. still makes me sad about that.. i got a lot of good games for cheap.
 
There is always a camadarie in the penny guide thread... I've always been able to buy and trade penny guides at very reasonable prices throughout the years.

I mean, just today someone sold me 3 of the newest penny guides for $5 shipped.
 
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