What will happen to Obama's uncle?

[quote name='Knoell']So you would be for cracking down on Visa overstays then?[/quote]
We can go round and round about "the law," but it still won't address the root causes of the migration of labor, exploitation by the monied elite, and wage depression it causes.

And for the record, if capital is allowed to move freely, then so should labor. But I don't for a second think that this is a concept you can understand.

On second thought, Don't even bother entertaining the argument. I already know your insane point of view. See my signature.
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How about you find the other posts that it's referenced to as well? Like the one where you and bob started adding stuff to that particular scenario like the white guy originally being some crazy homeless guy yelling racial epithets. You know...since you're so concerned about things like "honesty" and "integrity.":roll:

Btw, posting that snippet actually makes you look really dumb. You're just too dumb to understand it.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Like the one where you and bob started adding stuff to that particular scenario like the white guy originally being some crazy homeless guy yelling racial epithets.[/QUOTE]

Ah, I remember that thread well. It was the one where you said a black guy stabbing a passed out white guy while screaming racial slurs isn't an example of racism.

Oh, and where Japanese employers abusing black workers is an example of white racism.

Yeah...
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Ah, I remember that thread well. It was the one where you said a black guy stabbing a passed out white guy while screaming racial slurs isn't an example of racism.

Oh, and where Japanese employers abusing black workers is an example of white racism.

Yeah...[/QUOTE]
That part about the guy being passed out is a new figment of your imagination. Apparently, you don't remember that thread very well at all.

edit: Looks like I'm the one that didn't remember...go figure! But at least I have the balls not to edit it completely out.

edit 2: Or on second reading, I believe that the comment was from a continuation from another thread as well. There are some missing parts as the original scenario isn't in that thread in question.
 
I'm a little confused by your post. Are you accusing me of editing my previous posts, or are you trying to piece together one conversation through multiple posts?

For what it's worth to you (likely, not much), I can assure you I haven't went back and edited or removed any of my old posts.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']I'm a little confused by your post. Are you accusing me of editing my previous posts, or are you trying to piece together one conversation through multiple posts?

For what it's worth to you (likely, not much), I can assure you I haven't went back and edited or removed any of my old posts.[/QUOTE]
You're right, it doesn't matter; I'm just curious about the clusterfuck. And yes, I was trying to piece the conversation back together. But now that my memory is better refreshed, I'll resume my former snark.

But just to address your points again:

- The homeless white guy that probably has a mental illness with a substance dependancy being stabbed by a black guy that is ALSO homeless with a mental illness and substance dependancy is NOT racism. If you can't understand how mental illness and a substance dependancy can be exasperated by casual racism in society, then even discussing racism at this level is way over your head. The fact that the white homeless guy initially expresses racism isn't as important as the environment that creates that manifestation. The same applies to the black homeless guy and the explanation is fully explained in the knoell's sig.

Let's say that the homeless black guy was arrested and convicted of the crime. All statistics regarding the quality of defense, criminal proceedings, and sentencing would dictate that he would be punished more severely than if it was the white homeless guy that did the stabbing. THAT is power and privilege.

- As for the Japanese guy being prejudiced against a black guy; It doesn't help the black guy in any way and it also doesn't really help the Japanese guy, but it certainly helps whites because it reproduces white supremacy and racism. But I suppose I shouldn't expect you to go learn about the history of racism and how it's evolved so I'm just wasting my time with this post.

tl; dr: Get bent or get to learning.

DD OUT.
 
I don't believe that the black guy who was doing the killing/screaming was ever said to be homeless or a drunkard. Additionally, I don't think the white guy who was killed was ever said to have expressed any kind of racist attitude. It was simple - White, homeless guy, passed out (i.e.:poor with no power of influence of any kind) is stabbed by a black man (whom we know virtually nothing about) while the black man is screaming racial slurs. Which isn't racism.

And if a Japanese guy is being prejudiced against black guys that work for him, giving the Japanese employees perks - or an easier time at the expense of the black guys (which, I believe, was the story behind the article - then does that not benefit the Japanese people who work for him?
 
[quote name='UncleBob']I don't believe that the black guy who was doing the killing/screaming was ever said to be homeless or a drunkard. Additionally, I don't think the white guy who was killed was ever said to have expressed any kind of racist attitude. It was simple - White, homeless guy, passed out (i.e.:poor with no power of influence of any kind) is stabbed by a black man (whom we know virtually nothing about) while the black man is screaming racial slurs. Which isn't racism.[/QUOTE]

Which is funny because...

[quote name='UncleBob']Okay, so homeless black guy is angry, drunk and has a knife. Walks up to another homeless guy - also drunk, passed out and white. Black guy stabs white guy to death, screaming "Kill Whitey". In this situation, the black guy had all the power he needed, while the white guy had zero power.[/QUOTE]


And if a Japanese guy is being prejudiced against black guys that work for him, giving the Japanese employees perks - or an easier time at the expense of the black guys (which, I believe, was the story behind the article - then does that not benefit the Japanese people who work for him?
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Shifting goal posts again? There was no article, only your own bullshit. Instead of educating yourself, you prefer to stick your head up your ass...got it.

I've proven my point several times over. Have fun with yourself.
 
[quote name='Knoell']You are right, it isn't fucking rocket science. It is statistics.

Unequal treatment? How many times have I heard you guys mockingly say "we hear so much about the mexican border, but noone says anything about the canadian border, fucking racists".

God damn you guys are dishonest.[/QUOTE]

You still haven't explained how the issue of whether Obama's uncle should be deported leads to targeting "non-whites" (your words) when looking for illegal immigrants.

I feel compelled to once again point out that the stupidity of your policy suggestion is astounding. Not only is it racist, it's also almost guaranteed to backfire.
 
[quote name='camoor']You still haven't explained how the issue of whether Obama's uncle should be deported leads to targeting "non-whites" (your words) when looking for illegal immigrants.

I feel compelled to once again point out that the stupidity of your policy suggestion is astounding. Not only is it racist, it's also almost guaranteed to backfire.[/QUOTE]

I haven't explained it because I haven't said it. I responded to the other poster who was clearly ranting about "racist" people who are against illegal immigration are targeting non whites.

I said it is kind of hard not to target particular countries, because that is where the vast majority of illegals are coming from. There is nothing racist about that, it is statistics. When 62% of illegals are Mexican, then we should probably start looking at Mexico. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/121xx/doc12168/06-02-Foreign-BornPopulation.pdf

But then again people are just targeting Mexico because they are racist, right?
 
[quote name='dohdough']Which is funny because...[/quote]

Hm. You're right. Guess I need to go back and edit that. :D

Seriously, though, I was wrong.

There was no article, only your own bullshit.
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I know there was an article... maybe it wasn't linked to here at the time, but there was one that brought up the conversation...
 
[quote name='Knoell']I haven't explained it because I haven't said it. I responded to the other poster who was clearly ranting about "racist" people who are against illegal immigration are targeting non whites.

I said it is kind of hard not to target particular countries, because that is where the vast majority of illegals are coming from. There is nothing racist about that, it is statistics. When 62% of illegals are Mexican, then we should probably start looking at Mexico. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/121xx/doc12168/06-02-Foreign-BornPopulation.pdf

But then again people are just targeting Mexico because they are racist, right?[/QUOTE]

Could you please speak clearly for once.

What does "we should probably start looking at Mexico" even mean? Are you standing on the border with binoculars?

Your posts sound like a poorman's version of Sarah Palin's populist bullshit.
 
[quote name='Knoell']I said it is kind of hard not to target particular countries, because that is where the vast majority of illegals are coming from. There is nothing racist about that, it is statistics. When 62% of illegals are Mexican, then we should probably start looking at Mexico. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/121xx/doc...Population.pdf

But then again people are just targeting Mexico because they are racist, right?[/QUOTE]

Should we racially profile when it comes to crime as well? When it comes to terrorism?
 
You do not have to racially profile to create policies to stop illegal immigration. Knowing where the illegal immigrants are coming from is a good start to stopping it. This is why the Mexican border is such a hot topic. When 62% of illegal immigrants are Mexican, people tend to look towards how this is happening. It isn't racism, racial profiling, or whatever, it is statistics.

This is all I was saying because the one random guy posted a comment assuming that people just want to keep non-white people (but illegal immigrants) out.
 
[quote name='Knoell']You do not have to racially profile to create policies to stop illegal immigration. Knowing where the illegal immigrants are coming from is a good start to stopping it. This is why the Mexican border is such a hot topic. When 62% of illegal immigrants are Mexican, people tend to look towards how this is happening. It isn't racism, racial profiling, or whatever, it is statistics.

This is all I was saying because the one random guy posted a comment assuming that people just want to keep non-white people (but illegal immigrants) out.[/QUOTE]

It sounds like you're still advocating racial profiling. Unless you're talking about a big fence, a bunch of rednecks with binoculars or some other teaparty nonsense.
 
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