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Who are the most over-rated and under-rated players in the NBA
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Shaq = overated
i could be as good as him if i was 7 foot 300 pounds. all he does is jump and swat balls and dunks it.
i could be as good as him if i was 7 foot 300 pounds. all he does is jump and swat balls and dunks it.
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Overrated: Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, and Kenyon Martin.
Underrated: Doug Christie, Brad Miller, and Andrei Kirilenko.
These are obviously just a few, but these stick out in my mind the most right now.
Underrated: Doug Christie, Brad Miller, and Andrei Kirilenko.
These are obviously just a few, but these stick out in my mind the most right now.
[quote name='ChrisXE']over: Chris Webber
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.
For underrated, I'd have to go with Bibby. He is easily one of the top point guards in the league and yet he still hasn't made an all star game, hopefully this will change this year.
Even though Webber is pretty bad now, Im not sure if people still think he is very good? If the majority still thinks of him as an elite player, then yeah he is definately extremely overrated.
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.
For underrated, I'd have to go with Bibby. He is easily one of the top point guards in the league and yet he still hasn't made an all star game, hopefully this will change this year.
Even though Webber is pretty bad now, Im not sure if people still think he is very good? If the majority still thinks of him as an elite player, then yeah he is definately extremely overrated.
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anyone who thinks Shaq is overrated needs to get their head checked. He may not be what he was, but he is still the most dominant player in the league. He also makes everyone around him better, the true sign of a great player.
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan
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[quote name='CaseyRyback']anyone who thinks Shaq is overrated needs to get their head checked. He may not be what he was, but he is still the most dominant player in the league. He also makes everyone around him better, the true sign of a great player.
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan[/quote]
hmm...makes players around him better...hmm...that's an easy one, KG
but...
overrated: T Mac
underrated: Zack Randolf
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan[/quote]
hmm...makes players around him better...hmm...that's an easy one, KG
but...
overrated: T Mac
underrated: Zack Randolf
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[quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='ChrisXE']over: Chris Webber
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?
Right now, Chris Webber is averaging 18.5 points, 10.30 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 1.13 blocks per game. I'd say he doesn't stick. And as of now, he's keeping the Kings in the game right now against the Memphis Grizzles.
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?
Right now, Chris Webber is averaging 18.5 points, 10.30 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 1.13 blocks per game. I'd say he doesn't stick. And as of now, he's keeping the Kings in the game right now against the Memphis Grizzles.
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[quote name='CaseyRyback']anyone who thinks Shaq is overrated needs to get their head checked. He may not be what he was, but he is still the most dominant player in the league. He also makes everyone around him better, the true sign of a great player.
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan[/quote]
that may be... i dont like to watch basketball that much.
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan[/quote]
that may be... i dont like to watch basketball that much.
[quote name='oNeWiNgEdAnGeL'][quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='ChrisXE']over: Chris Webber
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?
Right now, Chris Webber is averaging 18.5 points, 10.30 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 1.13 blocks per game. I'd say he doesn't stick. And as of now, he's keeping the Kings in the game right now against the Memphis Grizzles.[/quote]
I've watched every minute of every Kings game this season. I don't care what he is averaging, he doesn't look explosive and settles for that same crappy 15-20 foot jump shot instead of moving the ball around.He's averaging those 18.5 points on almost 18 shots per game, that ends up being a 42% shooting percentage. That's not good, in case you didn't know.
His career average is 22 points per game 18.5 is 3 an half points less, also not good. His career shooting percentage is 49%. 42% is 7% less, also not good.
I honestly don't know how he is averaging over 10 boards a game, the guy doesn't even jump for most boards, watch and you'll see.
I guess his assist #'s are good, I'll give you that one.
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?
Right now, Chris Webber is averaging 18.5 points, 10.30 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 1.13 blocks per game. I'd say he doesn't stick. And as of now, he's keeping the Kings in the game right now against the Memphis Grizzles.[/quote]
I've watched every minute of every Kings game this season. I don't care what he is averaging, he doesn't look explosive and settles for that same crappy 15-20 foot jump shot instead of moving the ball around.He's averaging those 18.5 points on almost 18 shots per game, that ends up being a 42% shooting percentage. That's not good, in case you didn't know.
His career average is 22 points per game 18.5 is 3 an half points less, also not good. His career shooting percentage is 49%. 42% is 7% less, also not good.
I honestly don't know how he is averaging over 10 boards a game, the guy doesn't even jump for most boards, watch and you'll see.
I guess his assist #'s are good, I'll give you that one.
I'd also like to add/admit, I picked the WRONG game to critique Webber, he's looked fairly good tonight. He still isn't as explosive, and takes that damn jump shot too much, but at least he is going to the rim more. Even on that dunk though he didn't get up very high, not nearly as high as he used to.
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[quote name='swetooth9'][quote name='CaseyRyback']anyone who thinks Shaq is overrated needs to get their head checked. He may not be what he was, but he is still the most dominant player in the league. He also makes everyone around him better, the true sign of a great player.
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan[/quote]
hmm...makes players around him better...hmm...that's an easy one, KG
but...
overrated: T Mac
underrated: Zack Randolf[/quote]
Get the shaq-fu outta here. T-Mac overrated. Please tell me how. Please!!!!!!!!!!!
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan[/quote]
hmm...makes players around him better...hmm...that's an easy one, KG
but...
overrated: T Mac
underrated: Zack Randolf[/quote]
Get the shaq-fu outta here. T-Mac overrated. Please tell me how. Please!!!!!!!!!!!
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OMFG Steve Francis overrated give me a break
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[quote name='Cashville Dez']Just curious since the fight has everyone attention on basketball. I'll state mine later because who I think probably might trigger some folks to flame my ass. :lol:[/quote]
But yet you have the balls to flame everyone else for their picks even though you're afraid to give out yours for the same reason.
But yet you have the balls to flame everyone else for their picks even though you're afraid to give out yours for the same reason.
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Shaq - Over
? - Under. I don't follow basketball that closely.
? - Under. I don't follow basketball that closely.
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[quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='oNeWiNgEdAnGeL'][quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='ChrisXE']over: Chris Webber
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?
Right now, Chris Webber is averaging 18.5 points, 10.30 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 1.13 blocks per game. I'd say he doesn't stick. And as of now, he's keeping the Kings in the game right now against the Memphis Grizzles.[/quote]
I've watched every minute of every Kings game this season. I don't care what he is averaging, he doesn't look explosive and settles for that same crappy 15-20 foot jump shot instead of moving the ball around.He's averaging those 18.5 points on almost 18 shots per game, that ends up being a 42% shooting percentage. That's not good, in case you didn't know.
His career average is 22 points per game 18.5 is 3 an half points less, also not good. His career shooting percentage is 49%. 42% is 7% less, also not good.
I honestly don't know how he is averaging over 10 boards a game, the guy doesn't even jump for most boards, watch and you'll see.
I guess his assist #'s are good, I'll give you that one.[/quote]
Woohoo! Another Kings fan from Sacto. I've too watched almost every minute of every game and after watching Webber the past 5+ years, I'd have to agree with jimbodan. He may put up the numbers from time to time, but he lacks that spark, that quickness of foot, that ability to consistently drive to the basket.
He either settles for the jump shot or when he does drives, he settles for the hook. The old Webber would make every attempt to take the "rock" straight to the "hole" and try his damndest to either dunk it or draw a foul trying.
He's just not the same player.
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?
Right now, Chris Webber is averaging 18.5 points, 10.30 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 1.13 blocks per game. I'd say he doesn't stick. And as of now, he's keeping the Kings in the game right now against the Memphis Grizzles.[/quote]
I've watched every minute of every Kings game this season. I don't care what he is averaging, he doesn't look explosive and settles for that same crappy 15-20 foot jump shot instead of moving the ball around.He's averaging those 18.5 points on almost 18 shots per game, that ends up being a 42% shooting percentage. That's not good, in case you didn't know.
His career average is 22 points per game 18.5 is 3 an half points less, also not good. His career shooting percentage is 49%. 42% is 7% less, also not good.
I honestly don't know how he is averaging over 10 boards a game, the guy doesn't even jump for most boards, watch and you'll see.
I guess his assist #'s are good, I'll give you that one.[/quote]
Woohoo! Another Kings fan from Sacto. I've too watched almost every minute of every game and after watching Webber the past 5+ years, I'd have to agree with jimbodan. He may put up the numbers from time to time, but he lacks that spark, that quickness of foot, that ability to consistently drive to the basket.
He either settles for the jump shot or when he does drives, he settles for the hook. The old Webber would make every attempt to take the "rock" straight to the "hole" and try his damndest to either dunk it or draw a foul trying.
He's just not the same player.
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Woohoo! Another Kings fan from Sacto. I've too watched almost every minute of every game and after watching Webber the past 5+ years, I'd have to agree with jimbodan. He may put up the numbers from time to time, but he lacks that spark, that quickness of foot, that ability to consistently drive to the basket.
He either settles for the jump shot or when he does drives, he settles for the hook. The old Webber would make every attempt to take the "rock" straight to the "hole" and try his damndest to either dunk it or draw a foul trying.
He's just not the same player.[/quote]
Glad to see another kings fan too! I definately agree with you, it seems the King's success now hinges on whether that 15-20 foot jump shoot is falling for him on a particular night. I also think his lack of quickness is really becoming a defensive liability, it seems like he just isn't quick enough to guard top-tier NBA player one on one.
Woohoo! Another Kings fan from Sacto. I've too watched almost every minute of every game and after watching Webber the past 5+ years, I'd have to agree with jimbodan. He may put up the numbers from time to time, but he lacks that spark, that quickness of foot, that ability to consistently drive to the basket.
He either settles for the jump shot or when he does drives, he settles for the hook. The old Webber would make every attempt to take the "rock" straight to the "hole" and try his damndest to either dunk it or draw a foul trying.
He's just not the same player.[/quote]
Glad to see another kings fan too! I definately agree with you, it seems the King's success now hinges on whether that 15-20 foot jump shoot is falling for him on a particular night. I also think his lack of quickness is really becoming a defensive liability, it seems like he just isn't quick enough to guard top-tier NBA player one on one.
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[quote name='johnnyoski'][quote name='Cashville Dez']Just curious since the fight has everyone attention on basketball. I'll state mine later because who I think probably might trigger some folks to flame my ass. :lol:[/quote]
But yet you have the balls to flame everyone else for their picks even though you're afraid to give out yours for the same reason.[/quote]
Well here are mine.
Overrated- Chris Webber, Carmelo Anthony, Derek fisher(was paid to much money)
Underrated- Joe Johnson, Earl Boykins, Andrei Kierlienko, Rashard Lewis, Antwan Jamison
But yet you have the balls to flame everyone else for their picks even though you're afraid to give out yours for the same reason.[/quote]
Well here are mine.
Overrated- Chris Webber, Carmelo Anthony, Derek fisher(was paid to much money)
Underrated- Joe Johnson, Earl Boykins, Andrei Kierlienko, Rashard Lewis, Antwan Jamison
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Antwan Jamison? You got to be kidding me.
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Over-Stephon Marbury, Dirk Nowitzki, Ron Artest(not because of yesterday though), Rip Hamilton
Under-Michael Redd, Ben Wallace, Kobe Bryant (best in the league), Kenyon Martin
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Under-Michael Redd, Ben Wallace, Kobe Bryant (best in the league), Kenyon Martin
Overrated? Why else would they get so much publicity if they sucked?. However, I do agree with the fact that some players may be overrated on not terms of skill, but in publicity (like deals with sponsors, etc.). A few players that may come to mind are LeBron James, Chris Webber, and Yao Ming.
A few players who are not publicly known and not praised for their talent are Rashard Lewis, Steve Nash, and Ben Wallace. Rashard Lewis has been scoring above or around 20 points per game for the past few seasons, and has been given the cold shoulder by a majority of the fans.
Steve Nash, an excellent ball player and a great "sharer" hasn't been given props, while loud and obnoxious Guards like Gary Payton (who has been absolutely in the toilet since his over-publicized move from the Sonics) get all the fame.
While Ben Wallace is more well-known, particularly since his Pistons won the title last year, he is overshadowed by superstars like Shaquille O'Neal and Yao Ming. Currently, Wallace has more RPG than O'Neal and Ming.
A few players who are not publicly known and not praised for their talent are Rashard Lewis, Steve Nash, and Ben Wallace. Rashard Lewis has been scoring above or around 20 points per game for the past few seasons, and has been given the cold shoulder by a majority of the fans.
Steve Nash, an excellent ball player and a great "sharer" hasn't been given props, while loud and obnoxious Guards like Gary Payton (who has been absolutely in the toilet since his over-publicized move from the Sonics) get all the fame.
While Ben Wallace is more well-known, particularly since his Pistons won the title last year, he is overshadowed by superstars like Shaquille O'Neal and Yao Ming. Currently, Wallace has more RPG than O'Neal and Ming.
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well Lebron really has been showing his talent this season so far and when you average 27 points a game(IIRC) your doing pretty well.
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can I say all of them and not get in trouble!
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underated is earl boykins
when he was on the clippers, i knew he could make an impact
when he was on the clippers, i knew he could make an impact
[quote name='murcielago77']well Lebron really has been showing his talent this season so far and when you average 27 points a game(IIRC) your doing pretty well.[/quote]
I'm not talking overrated as in skill; the point I'm trying to make is that there are a lot of players just as talented as LeBron, but don't get the publicity they deserve.
I'm not talking overrated as in skill; the point I'm trying to make is that there are a lot of players just as talented as LeBron, but don't get the publicity they deserve.
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I'm not talking overrated as in skill; the point I'm trying to make is that there are a lot of players just as talented as LeBron, but don't get the publicity they deserve.[/quote]
Care to name some? Lebron is one of the most talented and athletically gifted players playing in the NBA right now.
I'm not talking overrated as in skill; the point I'm trying to make is that there are a lot of players just as talented as LeBron, but don't get the publicity they deserve.[/quote]
Care to name some? Lebron is one of the most talented and athletically gifted players playing in the NBA right now.
I know I'm gonna get flamed for these but:
Overrated: Steve Francis (I've heard way too many people praise him as not just one of the best players, but the best. I wanna know what they're smoking, cause there's a certain player with the initials KG who is infinitely better then Francis)
Underrated: Dirk Nowitzki (With all the praise rained upon Duncan and Garnett, you don't hear as much about Dirk. Well, personally, I don't think Duncan is really the second best player in the league anymore. That player is Dirk. Dirk finally realized he should try playing D, and he's doing a
ing damn awesome job this season doing it. He's getting the rebounds and blocks, while still scoring just as much. He is one of the few players out there that are the total package. He can do it all, play D, hit three pointers, shoot well in general, and dunk with the best of them. Yet Duncan seems to get more praise then Dirk.)
Overrated: Steve Francis (I've heard way too many people praise him as not just one of the best players, but the best. I wanna know what they're smoking, cause there's a certain player with the initials KG who is infinitely better then Francis)
Underrated: Dirk Nowitzki (With all the praise rained upon Duncan and Garnett, you don't hear as much about Dirk. Well, personally, I don't think Duncan is really the second best player in the league anymore. That player is Dirk. Dirk finally realized he should try playing D, and he's doing a
ing damn awesome job this season doing it. He's getting the rebounds and blocks, while still scoring just as much. He is one of the few players out there that are the total package. He can do it all, play D, hit three pointers, shoot well in general, and dunk with the best of them. Yet Duncan seems to get more praise then Dirk.)
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Duncan gets more praise than Dirk for two reasons -
MVP's and rings
MVP's and rings
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[quote name='karsh'][quote name='captainfrizo']Duncan gets more praise than Dirk for two reasons -
MVP's and rings[/quote]
Well, by that theory, shouldn't Duncan get more praise than KG?[/quote]
no because dirk aint got shit but KG does
MVP's and rings[/quote]
Well, by that theory, shouldn't Duncan get more praise than KG?[/quote]
no because dirk aint got shit but KG does
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[quote name='karsh'][quote name='captainfrizo']Duncan gets more praise than Dirk for two reasons -
MVP's and rings[/quote]
Well, by that theory, shouldn't Duncan get more praise than KG?[/quote]
Duncan gets less praise than KG because he's considered "boring" in comparision. KG talks smack and is known to show off every once in a while. Duncan doesn't do that as much (neither does Dirk for that matter).
Which character would be more interesting to show on TV? KG gets the air time, and that's why he seems to get more praise. Same with Kobe, Shaq, and Iverson, to name a few.
MVP's and rings[/quote]
Well, by that theory, shouldn't Duncan get more praise than KG?[/quote]
Duncan gets less praise than KG because he's considered "boring" in comparision. KG talks smack and is known to show off every once in a while. Duncan doesn't do that as much (neither does Dirk for that matter).
Which character would be more interesting to show on TV? KG gets the air time, and that's why he seems to get more praise. Same with Kobe, Shaq, and Iverson, to name a few.
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I'd also like to add Yao Ming to the over-rated list.
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[quote name='swetooth9'][quote name='CaseyRyback']anyone who thinks Shaq is overrated needs to get their head checked. He may not be what he was, but he is still the most dominant player in the league. He also makes everyone around him better, the true sign of a great player.
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan[/quote]
hmm...makes players around him better...hmm...that's an easy one, KG
but...
overrated: T Mac
underrated: Zack Randolf[/quote]
That's hard to argue with. Shaq really isn't overrated, if anything he's underrated for how much credit Kobe has gotten. Duncan and KG are obviously amazing too. KG is still my favorite non-Detroit player.
Overrated: T-Mac, Vince Carter and Paul Pierce, all the numbers in the world and boarderline worthless in the play-offs.
Underrated: Juan Dixon, Jamal Crawford, and Earl Boykins
One day Juan Dixon will be a starter, that will be a very good day for whatever team is smart enough to get him.
The only other player that comes close is Tim Duncan[/quote]
hmm...makes players around him better...hmm...that's an easy one, KG
but...
overrated: T Mac
underrated: Zack Randolf[/quote]
That's hard to argue with. Shaq really isn't overrated, if anything he's underrated for how much credit Kobe has gotten. Duncan and KG are obviously amazing too. KG is still my favorite non-Detroit player.
Overrated: T-Mac, Vince Carter and Paul Pierce, all the numbers in the world and boarderline worthless in the play-offs.
Underrated: Juan Dixon, Jamal Crawford, and Earl Boykins
One day Juan Dixon will be a starter, that will be a very good day for whatever team is smart enough to get him.
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[quote name='Cashville Dez'][quote name='johnnyoski'][quote name='Cashville Dez']Just curious since the fight has everyone attention on basketball. I'll state mine later because who I think probably might trigger some folks to flame my ass. :lol:[/quote]
But yet you have the balls to flame everyone else for their picks even though you're afraid to give out yours for the same reason.[/quote]
Well here are mine.
Overrated- Chris Webber, Carmelo Anthony, Derek fisher(was paid to much money)
Underrated- Joe Johnson, Earl Boykins, Andrei Kierlienko, Rashard Lewis, Antwan Jamison[/quote]
C Webb is a little overrated, but I wouldn't put him at the top, nor would I put Melo there since he's barely into his second pro season, but he kind of is too. Of course you might say LeBron is underrated at this point :shock: Fisher fits nicely as he is paid too much, but everyone knows he's not good.
Joe Johnson is underrated, come to think of it that entire Suns team is underrated. I can't believe you included Earl the little man from Eastern Michigan putting up big numbers in the NBA, Earl's always been a personal favorite.
But yet you have the balls to flame everyone else for their picks even though you're afraid to give out yours for the same reason.[/quote]
Well here are mine.
Overrated- Chris Webber, Carmelo Anthony, Derek fisher(was paid to much money)
Underrated- Joe Johnson, Earl Boykins, Andrei Kierlienko, Rashard Lewis, Antwan Jamison[/quote]
C Webb is a little overrated, but I wouldn't put him at the top, nor would I put Melo there since he's barely into his second pro season, but he kind of is too. Of course you might say LeBron is underrated at this point :shock: Fisher fits nicely as he is paid too much, but everyone knows he's not good.
Joe Johnson is underrated, come to think of it that entire Suns team is underrated. I can't believe you included Earl
the little man from Eastern Michigan putting up big numbers in the NBA, Earl's always been a personal favorite.
Overrated - Vince Carter, Allen Houston "in his prime" (never averaged 20 pts a game despite being a "sharpshooter"), Allen Iverson
Underrated - I'm biased as a Boston fan but I kind of htink Paul Pierce is underrated, Michael Redd of the Bucks is overlooked (should have been on the Olympic team).
Underrated - I'm biased as a Boston fan but I kind of htink Paul Pierce is underrated, Michael Redd of the Bucks is overlooked (should have been on the Olympic team).
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Overrated: Shaquille O'Neal, Alllen Iverson, Ron Artest
Underrated: Andrei Kirilenko, Michael Redd (heavily underrated and my favorite player)
Underrated: Andrei Kirilenko, Michael Redd (heavily underrated and my favorite player)
Wow! I just took a quick glance (maybe I missed it) and not 1 person mentioned Ray Allen as under rated. Check out his numbers,
49% FG%, 55% from 3 point land :shock: , 91% FT%, and 25 points per game! He isn't getting much hype playing out there in Seattle, but he is playing like a top 10 player.
49% FG%, 55% from 3 point land :shock: , 91% FT%, and 25 points per game! He isn't getting much hype playing out there in Seattle, but he is playing like a top 10 player.
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[quote name='jimbodan']Wow! I just took a quick glance (maybe I missed it) and not 1 person mentioned Ray Allen as under rated. Check out his numbers,
49% FG%, 55% from 3 point land :shock: , 91% FT%, and 25 points per game! He isn't getting much hype playing out there in Seattle, but he is playing like a top 10 player.[/quote]
Allen is a great player but how can an All-star and original Olympic selection (I think he declined for a wedding) be underrated? And sportscenter was talking about how Ray Allen is out there playing for a contract since his is up at the season's end. Point being saying Ray Allen is underrated is kind of like saying Dirty Dirk or Dwayne Wade is underrated. Of course I did jokingly mention LeBron, but ignore that.
Oh and add Jamal Mashburn's name to the list of overrated players... and I use the term "player" loosely, cuz I'm pretty sure Grant Hill has played more in the past 3 years now.
49% FG%, 55% from 3 point land :shock: , 91% FT%, and 25 points per game! He isn't getting much hype playing out there in Seattle, but he is playing like a top 10 player.[/quote]
Allen is a great player but how can an All-star and original Olympic selection (I think he declined for a wedding) be underrated? And sportscenter was talking about how Ray Allen is out there playing for a contract since his is up at the season's end. Point being saying Ray Allen is underrated is kind of like saying Dirty Dirk or Dwayne Wade is underrated. Of course I did jokingly mention LeBron, but ignore that.
Oh and add Jamal Mashburn's name to the list of overrated players... and I use the term "player" loosely, cuz I'm pretty sure Grant Hill has played more in the past 3 years now.
[quote name='Zoltek99'][quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='oNeWiNgEdAnGeL'][quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='ChrisXE']over: Chris Webber
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?
Right now, Chris Webber is averaging 18.5 points, 10.30 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 1.13 blocks per game. I'd say he doesn't stick. And as of now, he's keeping the Kings in the game right now against the Memphis Grizzles.[/quote]
I've watched every minute of every Kings game this season. I don't care what he is averaging, he doesn't look explosive and settles for that same crappy 15-20 foot jump shot instead of moving the ball around.He's averaging those 18.5 points on almost 18 shots per game, that ends up being a 42% shooting percentage. That's not good, in case you didn't know.
His career average is 22 points per game 18.5 is 3 an half points less, also not good. His career shooting percentage is 49%. 42% is 7% less, also not good.
I honestly don't know how he is averaging over 10 boards a game, the guy doesn't even jump for most boards, watch and you'll see.
I guess his assist #'s are good, I'll give you that one.[/quote]
Woohoo! Another Kings fan from Sacto. I've too watched almost every minute of every game and after watching Webber the past 5+ years, I'd have to agree with jimbodan. He may put up the numbers from time to time, but he lacks that spark, that quickness of foot, that ability to consistently drive to the basket.
He either settles for the jump shot or when he does drives, he settles for the hook. The old Webber would make every attempt to take the "rock" straight to the "hole" and try his damndest to either dunk it or draw a foul trying.
He's just not the same player.[/quote]
I have been saying the same thing, ever since the knee injury Webber has lost a step (atleast). He just isn't explosive and dominating.
I also don't think Shaq is overrated. I hate to watch him play (because watching him stand around the hoop is boring) and he is terrible at basketball fundamentals, but he is still one of the most dominating players in the league.
I am a northern cali native now living in los angeles. It's tough being a Kings fan in Laker country.
Under: Peja stokavich[/quote]
I don't think you can really call Peja underrated, but yeah, I think Webber stinks now. Too bad too, I know he worked really hard, but his knee will never be the same and he has lost almost all of his explosivness.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?
Right now, Chris Webber is averaging 18.5 points, 10.30 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 1.13 blocks per game. I'd say he doesn't stick. And as of now, he's keeping the Kings in the game right now against the Memphis Grizzles.[/quote]
I've watched every minute of every Kings game this season. I don't care what he is averaging, he doesn't look explosive and settles for that same crappy 15-20 foot jump shot instead of moving the ball around.He's averaging those 18.5 points on almost 18 shots per game, that ends up being a 42% shooting percentage. That's not good, in case you didn't know.
His career average is 22 points per game 18.5 is 3 an half points less, also not good. His career shooting percentage is 49%. 42% is 7% less, also not good.
I honestly don't know how he is averaging over 10 boards a game, the guy doesn't even jump for most boards, watch and you'll see.
I guess his assist #'s are good, I'll give you that one.[/quote]
Woohoo! Another Kings fan from Sacto. I've too watched almost every minute of every game and after watching Webber the past 5+ years, I'd have to agree with jimbodan. He may put up the numbers from time to time, but he lacks that spark, that quickness of foot, that ability to consistently drive to the basket.
He either settles for the jump shot or when he does drives, he settles for the hook. The old Webber would make every attempt to take the "rock" straight to the "hole" and try his damndest to either dunk it or draw a foul trying.
He's just not the same player.[/quote]
I have been saying the same thing, ever since the knee injury Webber has lost a step (atleast). He just isn't explosive and dominating.
I also don't think Shaq is overrated. I hate to watch him play (because watching him stand around the hoop is boring) and he is terrible at basketball fundamentals, but he is still one of the most dominating players in the league.
I am a northern cali native now living in los angeles. It's tough being a Kings fan in Laker country.
WarrenGekko
CAGiversary!
OVERRATED: Shaq and Tracy McGrady.
Underrated: AK-47 big time and Jerry Sloan (great coach)
I saw McGrady lose 19 games in a row.
Shaq commits an offensive foul every time he goes to the basket
Underrated: AK-47 big time and Jerry Sloan (great coach)
I saw McGrady lose 19 games in a row.
Shaq commits an offensive foul every time he goes to the basket
bread's done