Why are people buying Blu-Ray and HD DVD Discs?

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I know the quality is ten times better but most reasonable people want to wait until one format wins so they won't have any dvd paperweights in their collection and one format become the 2000's equivalent of DIVX.

I have a high def TV and regular DVDs look dull and not as vibrant even on a upconverting dvd player but I want one format to become a clear winner before I decide to invest in High Definition DVDs and a High Def dvd player.


I heard Blu Ray has more storage capacity so I hope maybe they win.
 
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[quote name='Final Starman']most people probably don't know about any format war[/quote]
i agree
besides some people just want it now rather than waiting
 
People are buying them because they already have the player for them. What good is a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player if you don't buy anything to play in it? At this point it really doesn't matter what format wins, if you have the player and the movie you'll always be able to use it even if they eventually stop making that format.
 
I want Bluray to win, but it's not the end of the world if HD-DVD becomes standard. HD-DVD players aren't going to be expensive for long, and I only have 8 BD movies ATM. It wouldn't bother me if I could only watch them on my PS3, considering that's the only place I can watch them now anyway.
 
People buy Blu-Ray discs because they have a PS3. People buy HD-DVD discs because HD-DVD players are dropping fast. Also, I don't think this is the right forum for this thread.
 
They'll both stick around I think....

Since they are both near equal, a lot of people just buy whichever they can get for less money or whichever version has the best special features.
 
I'm still buying DVDs... sure they don't look as nice but they get the job done and they'll live plenty long. When BD and/or HD starts getting replaced by another superior format, then I'll start buying them.:p
 
Why... because people with HDTVs want HD movies. The suggestion that Blu-ray will become the next divx format is laughable. Blu-ray isn't a rental service. By the way, GREAT DVD DEAL.
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']By the way, GREAT DVD DEAL.[/quote]

yeah, FIRST line in the forum rules....

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*Do not create a topic in this forum if you are not introducing a previously unposted specific DVD deal that is available now or will be available in the future.
If you have a question or want to discuss shopping in general, do it here.
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']Why... because people with HDTVs want HD movies. [/quote]That sums it up. And if one format "loses" it's not as if the discs themselves self-destruct. I'll still have the player and I can play them whenever I want.
 
Don't forget that companies are looking into dual format players as well as dual format discs. It's very possible that both formats soldier on.
 
Does it really matter if the format you chose loses? It isn't like your player suddenly explodes and the discs won't work anymore.
 
I really cant tell the difference from DVD and BR or HD atleast not enough to pay 10 or 20 bucks more then on normal DVD. I have King Kong on HD and it looks worse then on normal. On the normal atleast the CG didn't look all that great. On HD it looks really good and the rest of the movie looks like crap. So on normal DVD its hard for me to tell what is CG and what is not but on HD I can. I am planing on buying Ghost Rider but does the BR or HD have more extras on it?
 
[quote name='sendme']I really cant tell the difference from DVD and BR or HD atleast not enough to pay 10 or 20 bucks more then on normal DVD.[/quote]
Either you don't have things hooked up correctly or you need to get your eyes checked. There is a HUGE difference.

Chris in Cali had the right answer, I think.
 
[quote name='Final Starman']most people probably don't know about any format war[/quote]

You are completely correct.

There is the talk of the Blu-ray discs outselling HD now and taking over. Have you seen the numbers? It's like 3 million own a HD DVD player and 5 million Blu-ray player. it's insanely low numbers.

Last year was when DVDs finally took over VHS, that should say something to these movie people. NO ONE CARES ABOUT HD! Well except for high tech freaks like us, common people just want to watch DVDs on their $50 TV from Walmart and their $20 DVD player.
 
[quote name='lionheart4life']People are buying them because they already have the player for them. What good is a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player if you don't buy anything to play in it? At this point it really doesn't matter what format wins, if you have the player and the movie you'll always be able to use it even if they eventually stop making that format.[/quote]
Basically what I was going to post.


[quote name='bigdaddy']You are completely correct.

There is the talk of the Blu-ray discs outselling HD now and taking over. Have you seen the numbers? It's like 3 million own a HD DVD player and 5 million Blu-ray player. it's insanely low numbers.

Last year was when DVDs finally took over VHS, that should say something to these movie people. NO ONE CARES ABOUT HD! Well except for high tech freaks like us, common people just want to watch DVDs on their $50 TV from Walmart and their $20 DVD player.[/quote]
Which is why they still freakin' make Fullscreen editions of DVDs as well, because those same people want to, "Use all of their tv."

IMHO.

I don't really want to go off-topic (even if the OP was already off topic :) ) and get into an argument about FS/WS.
 
Because there are alot of people who buy anything the 19 year old sales person at best buy tells them is amazing. "DVD iz the suk, u need bru-ray n00bz" and another one is sold.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Either you don't have things hooked up correctly or you need to get your eyes checked. There is a HUGE difference.

Chris in Cali had the right answer, I think.[/QUOTE]

Chances are I do need them checked. I just don't think its worth it for the money. I did nitice it in King Kong like I said but the CG stood out to much it made it look bad. Also all the extras that are on say a 2 or 3 disc dvd set are they on the Blueray and HD single DVD? As for my hookups I have the 360 with the HD DVD player hooked up with Component Cables for the PS3 I have just the standard AV. However I don't watch BlueRay.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']You are completely correct.

There is the talk of the Blu-ray discs outselling HD now and taking over. Have you seen the numbers? It's like 3 million own a HD DVD player and 5 million Blu-ray player. it's insanely low numbers.

Last year was when DVDs finally took over VHS, that should say something to these movie people. NO ONE CARES ABOUT HD! Well except for high tech freaks like us, common people just want to watch DVDs on their $50 TV from Walmart and their $20 DVD player.[/quote]

I agree that most people don't know anything about the format war. My wife, who is pretty technical, wouldn't know much about the format war if it wasn't for her gamer husband.

When my in-laws can buy either one in the $5 bin at Wal-mart on a regular basis, one format will have one. That will be the end of it.

TBW
 
Why do I buy HD-DVD movies?

1. I own a HDTV

2. I'd like to use my HDTV as a HDTV for as much viewing/gaming as possible

3. I have a HD-DVD player

4. I like movies

5. I do think there's a substantial difference between a SD-DVD and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray quality wise

6. I have a full-time job that pays my bills and gives me some spending money (in other words: I can afford it)
 
Because I want to watch things in HD...not that tough to figure out.

As stated before, Dual Players are out, and more are coming. Even if one dies, the discs will not self destruct.

Yes, Blu-Ray has more storage but so far that has meant very little in terms of better PQ on one format then the other. Both formats have there crappers, and both how there beauties.
 
truthfuly its because guys get married have a family and have nothing better to do than to buy tons of dvds ..something new comes out and its ooh ill buy a bunch of those now.

In the end its a waste of time for most who dont even watch the movies they own im all for favorites but not going beyond that.

So with the new dvd formatts its just time to blow some money.

A question to those people...ever notice when people are at your house they ignore your dvd collection? Its because nobody cares. :whistle2:o
 
[quote name='GF_Eric']Does it really matter if the format you chose loses? It isn't like your player suddenly explodes and the discs won't work anymore.[/QUOTE]

There are rumors drifting around that both Toshiba and Sony are planing to introduce exploding players at CES 08. All speculation at this point.
 
[quote name='Skelah']
A question to those people...ever notice when people are at your house they ignore your dvd collection? Its because nobody cares. :whistle2:o[/QUOTE]

A question to you...have you ever considered that maybe people don't buy DVD's to try and impress people?
 
[quote name='sendme']I really cant tell the difference from DVD and BR or HD atleast not enough to pay 10 or 20 bucks more then on normal DVD. I have King Kong on HD and it looks worse then on normal. On the normal atleast the CG didn't look all that great. On HD it looks really good and the rest of the movie looks like crap. So on normal DVD its hard for me to tell what is CG and what is not but on HD I can. I am planing on buying Ghost Rider but does the BR or HD have more extras on it?[/QUOTE]You can find new release BD movies for $24.99 if you look. DVD's usually cost $19.99 for a new release, so I really don't mind paying $5 more for a better looking and sounding movie.
 
I have HD and BluRay, but I only own 1 HD movie and no Blurays. Our local video store has the complete selection available for both formats, hardly anyone in the area ever rents them, and you get 5-day rentals on new releases for them for the same price as 2-day rentals for standard DVD. Can't beat that!
 
[quote name='Skelah']
A question to those people...ever notice when people are at your house they ignore your dvd collection? Its because nobody cares. :whistle2:o[/quote]
I wouldn't say they are ignoring my roughly 400 dvds (which 20 are HD-DVDs) , when my dvd shelf is put in my back room, that nobody really sees. It is more I don't let people touch my dvds or games for that matter. I collect movies, I have since I was in high school, with VHS(which I have parted with since) just like some one collects baseball cards, comics, or little frog trinkets. I don't do it to impress anyone, if anything it pisses my wife off. :lol: I don't have all the time in the world to watch movies all day, and I can't fully explain why that is what I collect but it is.


as far as HD-DVDs go and why I spend the extra money on those is I didn't spend $2,800 just to watch SD and the occasional DiscoveryHD show. I chose HD over BluRay for man reasons, but I think neither will ever leave. To much money was invested on both sides for one to back out anytime soon. I think dual format players will be the winner. Just my thoughts.

Here is a excellent example of SD compared to HD http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=885362
 
[quote name='chodax']The real question to ask here is why are people buying xbox 360s or ps3s? just wait till one dies out[/quote]

coming from a guy with a PS3?:rofl:
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']Why... because people with HDTVs want HD movies.[/QUOTE]

The masses don't really want HD movies. There was a statistic floating around not to long ago that only 30% of HDTV owners had any kind of HD content. A recent study said that most PS3 or Xbox360 owners don't even realize their consoles do HD.

People buy this shit because the movie studios are starting to more aggressively push it. That said, I likely won't have any HD movie format in my house for a long time unless I end up with a PS3, and, even so, I'll be buying only DVDs until HD disks drop in price significantly. I am one who doesn't see any huge improvements from HD content and don't think it's worth the premium.
 
i dont own either, i would like to get one of the formats already, i just dont feel like buying a loser. Though when the price gets to below 200 I might have to change my mind. Plus I own so many dvd as is, I really dont feel like rebuying them.
 
[quote name='ShaneFalco']

I heard Blu Ray has more storage capacity so I hope maybe they win.[/quote]

I forgot to say...

There are two problems with that...

1. It cost more than twice as much for a player than HD DVD.

2. It's made from Sony and we all know their products, besides TVs, are made very poorly.
 
Sony is making the same mistake here that they made with Betamax. Remember, Betamax was better, but inexpensive and adult oriented are the way to win with technology in the home. Sony was:
1. greedy.
2. unwilling to help with porn on the product.

What is happening now?

While technically you could still buy NEW betamax players up until 2005, the things that killed Betamax last time will kill Blu this time.
 
Blu-ray is crap. It's just an excuse for movie companies to avoid royalties.

You have DVD, and the next step is HD-DVD. It's just common sense. And with the latest development of 51GB discs, Blu-ray no longer has the space advantage.
 
I could care less which format wins, but since 2/3 of HD movies being sold are Bluray discs, people should just accept Bluray and stop buying HDDVDs. Obviously thats never going to happen though. In the end it is all Universals fault. They are the only major movie studio to be HDDVD exclusive. If they just sell on Bluray, it would make things a lot easier. Again, thats not going to happen. Universals been trying to give consumers more choices lately. First with their HDDVD support they are forcing two HD movie formats. And now with their DRMfree music on different online services EXCEPT for itunes. It seems like they want people to have more choices, but its just pissing everyone off.
 
Earlier someone said that BRD and HDDVD are as low as 24.99 and SD DVDs are 19.99 new.

NOT FOR CHEAPASSES!

Even if I breakdown and get a new dvd it's NEVER over 14.99 and a NEW BR/HD dvd is 29,99. Double is nuts.

Besides that I just got back from the local EB type store and got 13 dvds for 39 dollars. Including a couple 2 disc special editions like Superman Returns. That's $3 each!!!! They had some HD/BR stuff and it was 19.99 MIN.

I'm all about HD and do everything I can to watch all my TV shows in it, but am unwilling to scrap my 400 or so dvds to get there.

I tried using an upconverter but the difference was maybe 3-4% so not worth the extra hundie.

As long as I have WS I will "put up" with SD on my 57" HD for now. As for 5 years from now maybe I'll rethink things.
 
[quote name='moe11888']I could care less which format wins, but since 2/3 of HD movies being sold are Bluray discs, people should just accept Bluray and stop buying HDDVDs. Obviously thats never going to happen though. In the end it is all Universals fault. They are the only major movie studio to be HDDVD exclusive. If they just sell on Bluray, it would make things a lot easier. Again, thats not going to happen. Universals been trying to give consumers more choices lately. First with their HDDVD support they are forcing two HD movie formats. And now with their DRMfree music on different online services EXCEPT for itunes. It seems like they want people to have more choices, but its just pissing everyone off.[/QUOTE]

Gotcha. So Sony should just stop making and selling the PS3 and instead release on the 360, since its software sales are killing Sony. Right? :roll:
 
[quote name='moe11888']I could care less which format wins, but since 2/3 of HD movies being sold are Bluray discs, people should just accept Bluray and stop buying HDDVDs. Obviously thats never going to happen though. In the end it is all Universals fault. They are the only major movie studio to be HDDVD exclusive. If they just sell on Bluray, it would make things a lot easier. Again, thats not going to happen. Universals been trying to give consumers more choices lately. First with their HDDVD support they are forcing two HD movie formats. And now with their DRMfree music on different online services EXCEPT for itunes. It seems like they want people to have more choices, but its just pissing everyone off.[/QUOTE]

That's just stupid. BR is not winning by as much as the Sony press releases will have you think. We're talking the like BR has sold 2 million discs and HD DVD 1.6 million. Considering there are 1.5 million BR players out there(including PS3) and only 400k HD DVD players out there (including XBOX 360 add on) I would say BR is hardly winning at all when HD DVD can maintain such a close pace with one one quarter of the players.

So far, HD DVD offers cheaper players and more features than BR. All that PiP content you see being advertised on HD DVD is not possible on current BR players. As somone else pointed out, BR's main advantage is storage capacity and with the 51GB HD DVD disc coming out, that advantage is fading away.
 
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