Well it's that time of the year when major retailers start to clearance out games. Every time a big sale happens and is posted here you get the occasional CAG who doesn't appreciate what the site has done for them. I want to know what the CAG community thinks of other members wanting over and above what they paid. Now granted this doesn't apply to all members, but there are still some out there. A few members that I can vouch for that I've dealt with since the latest BB Clearance are Orrimarrko and joserjerr. These two members have gone over and above to work out deals with me. So look at the poll choose your answer or feel free to post in this thread.
Why do clearance/sales bring out the worst in some CAG's?
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[quote name='jPoD']I guess I can see why you're upset and I probably would be too, but a lot of people feel like they should be compensated for time, money, tax, gas, etc.[/QUOTE]
The only compensation I think should *maybe* be time. I mean, you use your own gas to get your own game so you may as well pick up some more. The tax should be incorporated in the cost anyways.
The only compensation I think should *maybe* be time. I mean, you use your own gas to get your own game so you may as well pick up some more. The tax should be incorporated in the cost anyways.
Three ways you can look at it:
1. You want to help out a fellow CAG. There are those of us less fortunate who have more FatWallet type people in our areas, and we stand little/no chance of getting anything off the clearance sale. Basically, we end up hoping someone will be kind enough to hook us up for cost + shipping. If it happens, great! Chances are you keep that person in mind for a deal in the future (favor tree, etc.)
2. You want to help out a fellow CAG, but your time IS worth something to you. Ok, so you're still commendable for helping out, and a lot of people have no issues coughing up a few extra bucks for your time, gas, etc. to go out of your way to pick up these games. You're still respected, maybe not as much as #1, but enough that you aren't the bad guy.
3. The "douche". These are the people that should take their resale ways to Ebay, instead of here. Given, I can understand some people wanting to pay $25+ for Oblivion CE, but flat out expecting that, or marking your games up 50-100 percent honestly has no place on CAG. We are CHEAP (yes, it really IS what the C stands for), and having people trying to overcapitalize on sales like this only brings out the worst in the community. (floggings, burnings, random colorful metaphors, etc.) Everyone may have a different perspective of what their games are worth, but when 99.27 percent of CAG disagrees with the fact that you're trying to score $10 for a 1.99 clearance game, well....you have issues.
I've personally dealt with a lot of #1's, and even some #2's. I don't mind doing favors for people, because I know they'll be returned in kind. If I wanted to turn a quick buck, I'd do it elsewhere. Eventually, karma will catch up with all of us. (Thanks, Earl.)
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1. You want to help out a fellow CAG. There are those of us less fortunate who have more FatWallet type people in our areas, and we stand little/no chance of getting anything off the clearance sale. Basically, we end up hoping someone will be kind enough to hook us up for cost + shipping. If it happens, great! Chances are you keep that person in mind for a deal in the future (favor tree, etc.)
2. You want to help out a fellow CAG, but your time IS worth something to you. Ok, so you're still commendable for helping out, and a lot of people have no issues coughing up a few extra bucks for your time, gas, etc. to go out of your way to pick up these games. You're still respected, maybe not as much as #1, but enough that you aren't the bad guy.
3. The "douche". These are the people that should take their resale ways to Ebay, instead of here. Given, I can understand some people wanting to pay $25+ for Oblivion CE, but flat out expecting that, or marking your games up 50-100 percent honestly has no place on CAG. We are CHEAP (yes, it really IS what the C stands for), and having people trying to overcapitalize on sales like this only brings out the worst in the community. (floggings, burnings, random colorful metaphors, etc.) Everyone may have a different perspective of what their games are worth, but when 99.27 percent of CAG disagrees with the fact that you're trying to score $10 for a 1.99 clearance game, well....you have issues.
I've personally dealt with a lot of #1's, and even some #2's. I don't mind doing favors for people, because I know they'll be returned in kind. If I wanted to turn a quick buck, I'd do it elsewhere. Eventually, karma will catch up with all of us. (Thanks, Earl.)
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I'm not upset. Maybe a little frustrated when I can't score something from a sale, but I totally understand members mindsets though I might not agree with it. Also I realize the whole going out of their way, time, gas, but you can charge so much for this, especially if you were going to go buy games anyways. I just wanted to see what others thought about this topic and see where most people stand. Exactly where I was going with this marten, thanks
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I have no problem with people wanting a little bit more. It's their game and they can do what they see fit with it. But...
Personally, I have stated a price on each of my games, but I also say that price is negotiable, shipping is included in the price and I have trading as an option (which is what I prefer anyway on clearance items). Being flexible doesn't hurt.
The recent TRU/K-Mart clearance is a good example because I was able to get dupes of highly desired titles and trade more often than not for stuff I wanted.
Selling stuff at cost isn't always feasible. In my case, I often have to make 100 mile round trips for deals (Best Buy/Circuit City), and I don't have a real option of buying bubble mailer in bulk locally. Not to mention paypal fees and shipping. I think $1-$3 on the top is reasonable.
In regards to market value, there are so many CAG tradelist to choose from now that I think it is moot. If something is in high demand and can't be easily found in stores though, I think asking near market value or checking for the best offer is fair. If someone had a sealed Snatcher and choose not to go the eBay route because of the clowns on that site, I wouldn't expect them to sell it here for $10.
Personally, I have stated a price on each of my games, but I also say that price is negotiable, shipping is included in the price and I have trading as an option (which is what I prefer anyway on clearance items). Being flexible doesn't hurt.
The recent TRU/K-Mart clearance is a good example because I was able to get dupes of highly desired titles and trade more often than not for stuff I wanted.
Selling stuff at cost isn't always feasible. In my case, I often have to make 100 mile round trips for deals (Best Buy/Circuit City), and I don't have a real option of buying bubble mailer in bulk locally. Not to mention paypal fees and shipping. I think $1-$3 on the top is reasonable.
In regards to market value, there are so many CAG tradelist to choose from now that I think it is moot. If something is in high demand and can't be easily found in stores though, I think asking near market value or checking for the best offer is fair. If someone had a sealed Snatcher and choose not to go the eBay route because of the clowns on that site, I wouldn't expect them to sell it here for $10.
It depends on a few factors...
1) If I can straight-up trade, I do that. I also go for equivalent shipping too since, hey, if the other guy is sending USPS Priority with DC and $1 of insurance, I can do the same thing as well. It's only fair!
2) If I have to go back again (locally), I sell at-cost plus shipping. I don't ship for anything less than USPS Priority with DC, but I would toss a gaming mag or two into there just because I would throw them out otherwise.
3) If I have to go back again (quite a distance), I sell at-cost plus shipping + $2 to $3. Same unspoken magazine bonus applies.
Everything else, it depends on the situation. I don't gouge people or anything, though, but if I can pick up a game I don't particularly care about and sell it to someone else off of CAG for a significant amount of money because that's what it's worth to them, I don't have any particular qualms. That and, once I have one copy of a "oooh, this will cover what I paid on everything else!" titles I tend to point other people in the store and people on CAG to everything that's there.
Ex: There are 7 Oblivion: SE's left after I already grabbed the one I wanted and the one to an associate who said he'd give me $35? Well, I tell the 8 year-old who is looking for an interesting 360 game about the dirt-cheap Oblivion, I see a friend browsing the store and give him a heads-up, then I come back to CAG and say there could be about 5 left on the shelves.
1) If I can straight-up trade, I do that. I also go for equivalent shipping too since, hey, if the other guy is sending USPS Priority with DC and $1 of insurance, I can do the same thing as well. It's only fair!
2) If I have to go back again (locally), I sell at-cost plus shipping. I don't ship for anything less than USPS Priority with DC, but I would toss a gaming mag or two into there just because I would throw them out otherwise.
3) If I have to go back again (quite a distance), I sell at-cost plus shipping + $2 to $3. Same unspoken magazine bonus applies.
Everything else, it depends on the situation. I don't gouge people or anything, though, but if I can pick up a game I don't particularly care about and sell it to someone else off of CAG for a significant amount of money because that's what it's worth to them, I don't have any particular qualms. That and, once I have one copy of a "oooh, this will cover what I paid on everything else!" titles I tend to point other people in the store and people on CAG to everything that's there.
Ex: There are 7 Oblivion: SE's left after I already grabbed the one I wanted and the one to an associate who said he'd give me $35? Well, I tell the 8 year-old who is looking for an interesting 360 game about the dirt-cheap Oblivion, I see a friend browsing the store and give him a heads-up, then I come back to CAG and say there could be about 5 left on the shelves.
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[quote name='jPoD']I guess I can see why you're upset and I probably would be too, but a lot of people feel like they should be compensated for time, money, tax, gas, etc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah... but not to sell a $4.99 game for $49.99.
Yeah... but not to sell a $4.99 game for $49.99.
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People are entitled to expect whatever they want for their games. You may think they are jerks but they can't be wrong for asking for a particular price for something.
Plus when someone gets you a clearance game at cost they are doing you a favor, not fulfilling some CAG obligation.
Plus when someone gets you a clearance game at cost they are doing you a favor, not fulfilling some CAG obligation.
There is no definitive answer for me. Personally, I like helping out CAGs when I can (I just sent out 3 copies of Oblivion:CE for $15 to CAGs) but I can't blame someone for trying to make some money on a deal they went through the effort of getting. After all, a game is worth what someone is willing to pay and if both parties agree I don't have a problem with it.
[quote name='javeryh'](I just sent out 3 copies of Oblivion:CE for $15 to CAGs)[/quote]
Are you serious? Hook me up! I'll never make fun of you for buying games and complaining about having no time to play them ever again!
I try not to hoarde, but if I have the money, then I will. I always sell the excess to CAG'ers though, I haven't sold anything on ebay for months.. and i'll only mark it up like $5, which covers shipping and handling, i'm usually helping out CAGs more than I profit. I rarely turn a profit.
Are you serious? Hook me up! I'll never make fun of you for buying games and complaining about having no time to play them ever again!
I try not to hoarde, but if I have the money, then I will. I always sell the excess to CAG'ers though, I haven't sold anything on ebay for months.. and i'll only mark it up like $5, which covers shipping and handling, i'm usually helping out CAGs more than I profit. I rarely turn a profit.
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marten nailed it. I'm not much for a clearance scourer, but if I did come across something I stood to make money on, I'd eBay it instead of putting it up here. Cameraderie and all that, really. Would I scoop up 8 copies of Oblivion CE to sell on eBay if I had the chance? Probably not. Would I buy 1 or 2? Yep.
Such is the ambiguity of what it means to be a "hoarder."
If a CAG wanted that Oblivion for cost + shipping, I'd probably sell it to them for $15 and media mail it w/ DC. What do I stand to make on that? $3, tops? Boy, I must be some kind of sinner.
The clearance sales bring out hoarders and resellers, and those who whine and cry because they think they're entitled to a game at that price. You know what? If you're a CAG, and I know you and like you, I'll sell it to you for $15. If you're a CAG and I don't know you,
you. This site's become too big anyway, and there's a lot less separating us from FW and SD than you and I want to know. There are plenty of CAGs I like who I'd be more than happy to hook up. The majority of people here are just as capable of being hoarders and resellers as anyone else.
Joining this site and posting here makes you entitled for *nothing*, ok? There are no membership criteria, there's no selection process. It's a silly-ass gaming website. You're more entitled to my wrath than you are anything from Best Buy.
Y'know who bothers me just as much as the hoarders and eBayers? Those people who cry and moan that they didn't get what they wanted. Tell it to your parents and have them buy you a pony, or get to the clearance sale the first moment it starts and slap the shit outta whatever hoarder's stealing up all the copies of "Saints Row" or whatever's on sale.
The short version: there is no CAG community anymore, and I'm not sure there was one even when I signed up.
[quote name='Ziv']raping someone sucks[/QUOTE]
It sure does, but what does that have to do with clearance sales and resellers? A metaphor? Oh. How classy of you.
Such is the ambiguity of what it means to be a "hoarder."
If a CAG wanted that Oblivion for cost + shipping, I'd probably sell it to them for $15 and media mail it w/ DC. What do I stand to make on that? $3, tops? Boy, I must be some kind of sinner.
The clearance sales bring out hoarders and resellers, and those who whine and cry because they think they're entitled to a game at that price. You know what? If you're a CAG, and I know you and like you, I'll sell it to you for $15. If you're a CAG and I don't know you,
you. This site's become too big anyway, and there's a lot less separating us from FW and SD than you and I want to know. There are plenty of CAGs I like who I'd be more than happy to hook up. The majority of people here are just as capable of being hoarders and resellers as anyone else.Joining this site and posting here makes you entitled for *nothing*, ok? There are no membership criteria, there's no selection process. It's a silly-ass gaming website. You're more entitled to my wrath than you are anything from Best Buy.
Y'know who bothers me just as much as the hoarders and eBayers? Those people who cry and moan that they didn't get what they wanted. Tell it to your parents and have them buy you a pony, or get to the clearance sale the first moment it starts and slap the shit outta whatever hoarder's stealing up all the copies of "Saints Row" or whatever's on sale.
The short version: there is no CAG community anymore, and I'm not sure there was one even when I signed up.
[quote name='Ziv']raping someone sucks[/QUOTE]
It sure does, but what does that have to do with clearance sales and resellers? A metaphor? Oh. How classy of you.
As stated above, its cool to mark up a few bucks to cover your ass so you dont end up losing out by helping others out. It sucks for those who like to help others here who dont always have the easy access to get in on these sales. It sucks for them when they cant get what they need and nobody is interested in helping them. It goes hand in hand. Several times Ive helped people on here and might have been helped once or twice. Its gotten to the point where quite a few times Ive said everyone here, Im gonna get mine and couldnt care less about anyone but me. That would defeat the purpose of being here.
everyone here, Im gonna get mine and couldnt care less about anyone but me. That would defeat the purpose of being here.
Kayden
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When CC had the B1G1 bug where anything came up .01 when you bought any game, someone here scored a bunch of new releases for .01. He expected everyone to pay him $40. He said he had bills to pay, and who doesn't, but leave that shit at ebay.
I don't think its so much sales that bring out the worst in CAGs, it's just greed bringing out the worst in people. Any number of things can make people screw over friends.
I don't think its so much sales that bring out the worst in CAGs, it's just greed bringing out the worst in people. Any number of things can make people screw over friends.
archyteckie08
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I think the true problem is that we are suffering from "information overload."Nowadays, we know exactly what, when, and how much stores are going to clearance games weeks before they do so. In the beginning, it used to be cool to be in the "know" but now everyone is, so getting clearance games is so competitive. And because we know so much, people feel gyped by clearance sale traders/sellers because they know exactly how much they paid and where they got it from. If we didn't know how much they paid or where they got it, we'd think $40 for a $60 game still sealed is a steal.
Couple that with "anybody can be a scapler" ebay, the big business of trading/selling rare or obsure games and its no wonder how greedy people are now. Honestly, I had more luck getting a good cheap game in the 90s (when there was less info) than I ever had today (when there is too much info.). But than again, I was never a serious video game bargain shopper to began with. So I don't have any bitter feelings towards hoarders or opportunists.
Couple that with "anybody can be a scapler" ebay, the big business of trading/selling rare or obsure games and its no wonder how greedy people are now. Honestly, I had more luck getting a good cheap game in the 90s (when there was less info) than I ever had today (when there is too much info.). But than again, I was never a serious video game bargain shopper to began with. So I don't have any bitter feelings towards hoarders or opportunists.
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[quote name='mykevermin']This site's become too big anyway, and there's a lot less separating us from FW and SD than you and I want to know. There are plenty of CAGs I like who I'd be more than happy to hook up.
The short version: there is no CAG community anymore, and I'm not sure there was one even when I signed up.[/quote]
I digg where you are coming from...
I see you joined in June 2004. I'll say this much, from the time I joined in Dec 2003 till about the summer of 2004, CAG was an awesome place. The site was completely devoid of BS. It was about deals, bottom line. Now there is way too much growth without site changes to reflect it, way too little organization, and way too much apathy and support of the status quo.
The short version: there is no CAG community anymore, and I'm not sure there was one even when I signed up.[/quote]
I digg where you are coming from...
I see you joined in June 2004. I'll say this much, from the time I joined in Dec 2003 till about the summer of 2004, CAG was an awesome place. The site was completely devoid of BS. It was about deals, bottom line. Now there is way too much growth without site changes to reflect it, way too little organization, and way too much apathy and support of the status quo.
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I digg where you are coming from...
I see you joined in June 2004. I'll say this much, from the time I joined in Dec 2003 till about the summer of 2004, CAG was an awesome place. The site was completely devoid of BS. It was about deals, bottom line. Now there is way too much growth without site changes to reflect it, way too little organization, and way too much apathy and support of the status quo.[/QUOTE]
I think the site started going downhill probably... a year ago. I remember that I did a lot of trading back in 2005 and everything was fantastic then... as time went on though, it became more and more difficult to find somebody reasonable. And there's been a lot of clutter in the form of new members' posts... I'm not saying that all newer members are bad, but most seem to be annoyances more than anything.
I see you joined in June 2004. I'll say this much, from the time I joined in Dec 2003 till about the summer of 2004, CAG was an awesome place. The site was completely devoid of BS. It was about deals, bottom line. Now there is way too much growth without site changes to reflect it, way too little organization, and way too much apathy and support of the status quo.[/QUOTE]
I think the site started going downhill probably... a year ago. I remember that I did a lot of trading back in 2005 and everything was fantastic then... as time went on though, it became more and more difficult to find somebody reasonable. And there's been a lot of clutter in the form of new members' posts... I'm not saying that all newer members are bad, but most seem to be annoyances more than anything.
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I only have a problem with the people who brag about their conquests, and then expect eBay prices from CAGers. If you want eBay prices, then go through the trouble, expense, and risk of listing it there. Don't come here and expect "full price" for little effort. I have helped others and been helped, but no one is under any obligation to do so. Trading is the best, but difficult when the clearance items are lacking in many areas.
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I digg where you are coming from...
I see you joined in June 2004. I'll say this much, from the time I joined in Dec 2003 till about the summer of 2004, CAG was an awesome place. The site was completely devoid of BS. It was about deals, bottom line. Now there is way too much growth without site changes to reflect it, way too little organization, and way too much apathy and support of the status quo.[/quote]
I agree with that. The big CC sale of '04 was great because it was easy to trade game for game or buy the clearance games for little more than the seller paid for them. I don't mind paying an extra $10 over the clearance price if the game is highly sought after, but to mark it up to just below MSRP is just wrong.
I see you joined in June 2004. I'll say this much, from the time I joined in Dec 2003 till about the summer of 2004, CAG was an awesome place. The site was completely devoid of BS. It was about deals, bottom line. Now there is way too much growth without site changes to reflect it, way too little organization, and way too much apathy and support of the status quo.[/quote]
I agree with that. The big CC sale of '04 was great because it was easy to trade game for game or buy the clearance games for little more than the seller paid for them. I don't mind paying an extra $10 over the clearance price if the game is highly sought after, but to mark it up to just below MSRP is just wrong.
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The bottom line is, when someone buys something, its theirs to do with as they please.
I think its nice that others hook each other up, but I certainly do not feel that they owe it to me to sell their possessions at lower than retail price (provided its sealed etc...)
I think its nice that others hook each other up, but I certainly do not feel that they owe it to me to sell their possessions at lower than retail price (provided its sealed etc...)
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I hook people a lot here and I also ebay a lot of things I find, so I can buy other things. I don't think hook ups should be expected of anyone. People came here to get cheap games for themselves originally and they aren't obligated to give low prices to other people.
For one thing, it's not like you get anything in return when you do hook someone up and half the time you wonder if they even really appreciate it. I'm not saying the person needs to be extravagant in their thanks, but when you sell someone something for really cheap and they just write "k thx dude" back, if at all, you wonder why you didn't just go the ebay route. Sometimes people don't even write back when you give them free stuff or just charge shipping.
so bottom line, imo, is do what you want with clearance items. hoard it all, give it all for cost + shipping, whatever.
more so, there's a total double standard for trading/selling on this site-- if you sell something for close to ebay prices you're considered a asshole profiteer and if you try to offer someone less than ebay prices, you're an asshole lowballer. These days everybody has "make an offer, don't lowball me" on their FS list. They might as well just list ebay prices, because if you don't offer someone within a few dollars of ebay value, you probably won't get a response. The ones that do have prices listed usually have close to ebay prices (or more.) The occasional good deal pops up and that's cool. I'm not saying people shouldn't sell for ebay prices, but the "make an offer" bs is annoying.
For one thing, it's not like you get anything in return when you do hook someone up and half the time you wonder if they even really appreciate it. I'm not saying the person needs to be extravagant in their thanks, but when you sell someone something for really cheap and they just write "k thx dude" back, if at all, you wonder why you didn't just go the ebay route. Sometimes people don't even write back when you give them free stuff or just charge shipping.
so bottom line, imo, is do what you want with clearance items. hoard it all, give it all for cost + shipping, whatever.
more so, there's a total double standard for trading/selling on this site-- if you sell something for close to ebay prices you're considered a asshole profiteer and if you try to offer someone less than ebay prices, you're an asshole lowballer. These days everybody has "make an offer, don't lowball me" on their FS list. They might as well just list ebay prices, because if you don't offer someone within a few dollars of ebay value, you probably won't get a response. The ones that do have prices listed usually have close to ebay prices (or more.) The occasional good deal pops up and that's cool. I'm not saying people shouldn't sell for ebay prices, but the "make an offer" bs is annoying.
[quote name='javeryh']There is no definitive answer for me. Personally, I like helping out CAGs when I can (I just sent out 3 copies of Oblivion:CE for $15 to CAGs) but I can't blame someone for trying to make some money on a deal they went through the effort of getting. After all, a game is worth what someone is willing to pay and if both parties agree I don't have a problem with it.[/quote]
were they known cags? it seems everytime i have good games from a clearance and offer them up, i get random newbies that i've never seen post on cag before. seems like they are just lurkers who come around and try to act like part of the community during clearances.
were they known cags? it seems everytime i have good games from a clearance and offer them up, i get random newbies that i've never seen post on cag before. seems like they are just lurkers who come around and try to act like part of the community during clearances.
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I do favors for people on here whenever i can. since i work at TRU, when the clearance was big i grabbed whatever i could for people on here. i don't think i even made an extra dollar off it, in fact i may have lost a little bit of money on shipping supplies (not much though). point is, i feel like if you can help out you should since more than likely a lot of these people wouldn't know about these deals without this site and the kind people that post the deals. while making $2-3 dollars on top of everything is okay by me, everytime i look on here for a clearance title it is marked up at least $10 more than they paid and i find that very annoying. while i do realize that they bought the game, not everyone has the luxary of getting to the store with the clearance before all the hoarders get there. i went to bestbuy on monday looking for a few clearance games for myself and if i found any extra's i would post on here. i got there at 2 pm since i had prior obligations, so i missed out on everything and that was the only bestbuy near me. i wish i knew some friendly CAG's on here that would help me get the titles i wanted without raising the price on me, but i can't find anyone like that anymore. i couldn't find any titles to trade for them and being a collector, i don't really want to trade away games i paid much more money for just to get a $3-$10 game. well, that is my complaint and i hope those people buying extra just to raise the price get stuck with the game.
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I have yet to pick up any games solely for other Cag's. I just don't go to these sales/clearances religously like some of you. If I do go, I'll only pick-up a handful of games, out of those I usually keep one or two and give the other ones to my younger cousins and neighborhood kids at cost or if they were really cheap, for free. Whenever I do reply to any Major sale thread, I always get PM's asking if I can pick this and that up for somebody, even when I made no mention that I would be going or that I could get stuff for people.
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i try to pick up stuff for CAGs because im a general nice guy. I just happen to the clearance events that goes on like this recent one.
i agree with what the others say. its their item ,let them do whatever they want with it. they are not obligated to sell it here..they can go anywhere else and do whatever with it. they can even wipe their ass with it. i think its nice and a good gesture when people sell their games here for a cheap price or trade them here. yeah it woud be ridiculous of someone marked up moto gp 06 from the clearance sale from 10 bucks up to 45 but thats what they are demanding. you do not have to buy from him. if you really want it that bad look some where else. its normal buisness if you realy think about it.
i agree with what the others say. its their item ,let them do whatever they want with it. they are not obligated to sell it here..they can go anywhere else and do whatever with it. they can even wipe their ass with it. i think its nice and a good gesture when people sell their games here for a cheap price or trade them here. yeah it woud be ridiculous of someone marked up moto gp 06 from the clearance sale from 10 bucks up to 45 but thats what they are demanding. you do not have to buy from him. if you really want it that bad look some where else. its normal buisness if you realy think about it.
[quote name='gaelan']were they known cags? it seems everytime i have good games from a clearance and offer them up, i get random newbies that i've never seen post on cag before. seems like they are just lurkers who come around and try to act like part of the community during clearances.[/quote]
Yeah - Kendro, Weedy and spidey got them. Shrike is probably getting my personal copy in a few months when I get sick of it/quit playing - and he's the undisputed king of trading around here...
Yeah - Kendro, Weedy and spidey got them. Shrike is probably getting my personal copy in a few months when I get sick of it/quit playing - and he's the undisputed king of trading around here...
I'm sort of in the middle. If I found four copies of say Oblivion CE at the BB clearance, I'd probably buy em up, put two of them up for trade/sale here for a moderate to small profit, and put the other two up on Ebay. I like to make a profit on stuff but I also like to help out other people. Most of what I found at my local BB was crap anyway so I just flipped what I could at EB and made a bit of profit in store credit and paid off some of my God of War 2 preorder. (I figured no one would care about buying two crappy Power Ranger games for $2 and trading em in for 7 )
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[quote name='neudog']Well it's that time of the year when major retailers start to clearance out games. Every time a big sale happens and is posted here you get the occasional CAG who doesn't appreciate what the site has done for them. I want to know what the CAG community thinks of other members wanting over and above what they paid. Now granted this doesn't apply to all members, but there are still some out there. A few members that I can vouch for that I've dealt with since the latest BB Clearance are Orrimarrko and joserjerr. These two members have gone over and above to work out deals with me. So look at the poll choose your answer or feel free to post in this thread.[/QUOTE]
Umm, if I luck out at a clearance and find Marvel VS Capcom 2 for $3.47, why in the world should I sell you the game like it's only worth $3.47?
I bought a copy of Feel the Magic from a Cag for about $8 when it was on sale at TRU for about $3. Why is that okay? Because I couldn't find one and the game is only really worth about $11 used and about $15 new...
However, I doubt the CAG would have been so nice if it was say, a sealed Rez he bought for $3.
And then again, this is CAG, cheapassgamer, we're about finding the best deals, enjoying the best gaming has to offer, and finding a way to exploit both. If say, buying five copies of Hannah Montana for $5 each, gets me two blu rays, a new 360 game, and some cash, why in the world should I NOT do it?
Sure, I could think, "Oh, imagine the smile on a young girl's face when she can buy this Hannah Montana game for $5" or "Wow, this would make a cool mom's day!"
But you know what?! That's not life, if I leave them there,- some bald fat aging man is going to pick them up, sell them for $30 each buy it now, and spend the money on cigarettes and past due bills. In fact, I'm probably more of a help to people because with my 1 cent no reserve auctions, they STAND A CHANCE OF GETTING THE GAME AT A GOOD PRICE.
And ask anyone who works retail, TONS of stuff gets thrown out, or sent to Goodwill, or "field destroyed" or whatever. It's business, it's a market, there's no ethics or code of conduct. It's not like the FTC is going to impose sanctions on CAG because we're undercutting the competition or getting such good deals.
And as for a CAG community, I think there's a community in terms of discussions: it's most of the same people discussing the usual topics. Look at the fighting thread, look at any threads about dating or girls, it's the same dozen people, I'm pretty sure if charcana wanted Neowave for $5 that badly and I happened to stumble upon a copy of it, then yeah, I'd send it for $7 shipped. If cag1838945765i57398759037530975309573095347 asked me for it, then I'd say, "go check my auction out"
Umm, if I luck out at a clearance and find Marvel VS Capcom 2 for $3.47, why in the world should I sell you the game like it's only worth $3.47?
I bought a copy of Feel the Magic from a Cag for about $8 when it was on sale at TRU for about $3. Why is that okay? Because I couldn't find one and the game is only really worth about $11 used and about $15 new...
However, I doubt the CAG would have been so nice if it was say, a sealed Rez he bought for $3.
And then again, this is CAG, cheapassgamer, we're about finding the best deals, enjoying the best gaming has to offer, and finding a way to exploit both. If say, buying five copies of Hannah Montana for $5 each, gets me two blu rays, a new 360 game, and some cash, why in the world should I NOT do it?
Sure, I could think, "Oh, imagine the smile on a young girl's face when she can buy this Hannah Montana game for $5" or "Wow, this would make a cool mom's day!"
But you know what?! That's not life, if I leave them there,- some bald fat aging man is going to pick them up, sell them for $30 each buy it now, and spend the money on cigarettes and past due bills. In fact, I'm probably more of a help to people because with my 1 cent no reserve auctions, they STAND A CHANCE OF GETTING THE GAME AT A GOOD PRICE.
And ask anyone who works retail, TONS of stuff gets thrown out, or sent to Goodwill, or "field destroyed" or whatever. It's business, it's a market, there's no ethics or code of conduct. It's not like the FTC is going to impose sanctions on CAG because we're undercutting the competition or getting such good deals.
And as for a CAG community, I think there's a community in terms of discussions: it's most of the same people discussing the usual topics. Look at the fighting thread, look at any threads about dating or girls, it's the same dozen people, I'm pretty sure if charcana wanted Neowave for $5 that badly and I happened to stumble upon a copy of it, then yeah, I'd send it for $7 shipped. If cag1838945765i57398759037530975309573095347 asked me for it, then I'd say, "go check my auction out"
Who are you to lecture when you owe mgriff a prize from the Super Bowl Pool?
[quote name='sarausagi']Umm, if I luck out at a clearance and find Marvel VS Capcom 2 for $3.47, why in the world should I sell you the game like it's only worth $3.47?
I bought a copy of Feel the Magic from a Cag for about $8 when it was on sale at TRU for about $3. Why is that okay? Because I couldn't find one and the game is only really worth about $11 used and about $15 new...
However, I doubt the CAG would have been so nice if it was say, a sealed Rez he bought for $3.
And then again, this is CAG, cheapassgamer, we're about finding the best deals, enjoying the best gaming has to offer, and finding a way to exploit both. If say, buying five copies of Hannah Montana for $5 each, gets me two blu rays, a new 360 game, and some cash, why in the world should I NOT do it?
Sure, I could think, "Oh, imagine the smile on a young girl's face when she can buy this Hannah Montana game for $5" or "Wow, this would make a cool mom's day!"
But you know what?! That's not life, if I leave them there,- some bald fat aging man is going to pick them up, sell them for $30 each buy it now, and spend the money on cigarettes and past due bills. In fact, I'm probably more of a help to people because with my 1 cent no reserve auctions, they STAND A CHANCE OF GETTING THE GAME AT A GOOD PRICE.
And ask anyone who works retail, TONS of stuff gets thrown out, or sent to Goodwill, or "field destroyed" or whatever. It's business, it's a market, there's no ethics or code of conduct. It's not like the FTC is going to impose sanctions on CAG because we're undercutting the competition or getting such good deals.
And as for a CAG community, I think there's a community in terms of discussions: it's most of the same people discussing the usual topics. Look at the fighting thread, look at any threads about dating or girls, it's the same dozen people, I'm pretty sure if charcana wanted Neowave for $5 that badly and I happened to stumble upon a copy of it, then yeah, I'd send it for $7 shipped. If cag1838945765i57398759037530975309573095347 asked me for it, then I'd say, "go check my auction out"[/quote]
[quote name='sarausagi']Umm, if I luck out at a clearance and find Marvel VS Capcom 2 for $3.47, why in the world should I sell you the game like it's only worth $3.47?
I bought a copy of Feel the Magic from a Cag for about $8 when it was on sale at TRU for about $3. Why is that okay? Because I couldn't find one and the game is only really worth about $11 used and about $15 new...
However, I doubt the CAG would have been so nice if it was say, a sealed Rez he bought for $3.
And then again, this is CAG, cheapassgamer, we're about finding the best deals, enjoying the best gaming has to offer, and finding a way to exploit both. If say, buying five copies of Hannah Montana for $5 each, gets me two blu rays, a new 360 game, and some cash, why in the world should I NOT do it?
Sure, I could think, "Oh, imagine the smile on a young girl's face when she can buy this Hannah Montana game for $5" or "Wow, this would make a cool mom's day!"
But you know what?! That's not life, if I leave them there,- some bald fat aging man is going to pick them up, sell them for $30 each buy it now, and spend the money on cigarettes and past due bills. In fact, I'm probably more of a help to people because with my 1 cent no reserve auctions, they STAND A CHANCE OF GETTING THE GAME AT A GOOD PRICE.
And ask anyone who works retail, TONS of stuff gets thrown out, or sent to Goodwill, or "field destroyed" or whatever. It's business, it's a market, there's no ethics or code of conduct. It's not like the FTC is going to impose sanctions on CAG because we're undercutting the competition or getting such good deals.
And as for a CAG community, I think there's a community in terms of discussions: it's most of the same people discussing the usual topics. Look at the fighting thread, look at any threads about dating or girls, it's the same dozen people, I'm pretty sure if charcana wanted Neowave for $5 that badly and I happened to stumble upon a copy of it, then yeah, I'd send it for $7 shipped. If cag1838945765i57398759037530975309573095347 asked me for it, then I'd say, "go check my auction out"[/quote]
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Apossum
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exactly, sarausagi (but damn, send the guy his game...) it's nice to hook up CAGs you know, but I don't feel a very strong "community vibe" where this happens between the whole site.
there are some good people hooking up others in the BB trading thread and I hope they get their thanks. I know the few times I've done that for the general population around here, I didn't really feel the cag love. don't even get me started on the times I've seen those same items up for sale on the person's list a week later for a more expensive price.
*sigh* yeah, I'm the negative one, but I try not to have any illusions and am annoyed when people post these "where's teh love?" threads
there are some good people hooking up others in the BB trading thread and I hope they get their thanks. I know the few times I've done that for the general population around here, I didn't really feel the cag love. don't even get me started on the times I've seen those same items up for sale on the person's list a week later for a more expensive price.
*sigh* yeah, I'm the negative one, but I try not to have any illusions and am annoyed when people post these "where's teh love?" threads
[quote name='naes']Who are you to lecture when you owe mgriff a prize from the Super Bowl Pool?[/QUOTE]
Who are you to call people out on something that's between two people?
And no lie, I was just about to post a message asking for people to email me [not PM] about addresses because I can't read PM's right now
Who are you to call people out on something that's between two people?
And no lie, I was just about to post a message asking for people to email me [not PM] about addresses because I can't read PM's right now
It was posted in public, and you complain that it's only between two people?
And I'm someone to call out scammers.
[quote name='sarausagi']Who are you to call people out on something that's between two people?
And no lie, I was just about to post a message asking for people to email me [not PM] about addresses because I can't read PM's right now[/quote]
And I'm someone to call out scammers.
[quote name='sarausagi']Who are you to call people out on something that's between two people?
And no lie, I was just about to post a message asking for people to email me [not PM] about addresses because I can't read PM's right now[/quote]
Neudog at the time of the PS3 release...
[quote name='neudog']This is a capatalistic country and is built around profit. There will be plenty of PS3's for everyone in the Springtime and you can spend your rolled up quarters then.
edit// Oh by the way how many did you get? I got two because I had the dedication to wait over 38 hours. If you would like one I'd be happy to send you a link to my auction
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Neudog yesterday...
[quote name='neudog']I want to know what the CAG community thinks of other members wanting over and above what they paid. [/QUOTE]
Clearance sale or console launch it's still trying to cut a profit. I don't get it, did someone hack his account?
[quote name='neudog']This is a capatalistic country and is built around profit. There will be plenty of PS3's for everyone in the Springtime and you can spend your rolled up quarters then.
edit// Oh by the way how many did you get? I got two because I had the dedication to wait over 38 hours. If you would like one I'd be happy to send you a link to my auction
[/QUOTE]Neudog yesterday...
[quote name='neudog']I want to know what the CAG community thinks of other members wanting over and above what they paid. [/QUOTE]
Clearance sale or console launch it's still trying to cut a profit. I don't get it, did someone hack his account?
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Apossum
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the ps3 launch was fair game to blatantly mark up a system by $2000 or more...there was a huge thread for everyone to brag about how much they got on ebay for it. the 360 launch was kinda the same way, but not everyone was bragging about it.
Nobody could find those systems anywhere and lots of people wanted them. Some CAGs waited months to find the 360 in store. but marking up a clearance game is apparently very wrong and disrespectful to the community.
Nobody could find those systems anywhere and lots of people wanted them. Some CAGs waited months to find the 360 in store. but marking up a clearance game is apparently very wrong and disrespectful to the community.
[quote name='Apossum']the ps3 launch was fair game to blatantly mark up a system by $2000 or more...there was a huge thread for everyone to brag about how much they got on ebay for it. the 360 launch was kinda the same way, but not everyone was bragging about it.
Nobody could find those systems anywhere and lots of people wanted them. Some CAGs waited months to find the 360 in store. but marking up a clearance game is apparently very wrong and disrespectful to the community.[/quote]
I think it's the whole principle of "You can take advantage of an idiot/fanboy, but not a CAG."
Nobody could find those systems anywhere and lots of people wanted them. Some CAGs waited months to find the 360 in store. but marking up a clearance game is apparently very wrong and disrespectful to the community.[/quote]
I think it's the whole principle of "You can take advantage of an idiot/fanboy, but not a CAG."
[quote name='Apossum']the ps3 launch was fair game to blatantly mark up a system by $2000 or more...there was a huge thread for everyone to brag about how much they got on ebay for it. the 360 launch was kinda the same way, but not everyone was bragging about it.
Nobody could find those systems anywhere and lots of people wanted them. Some CAGs waited months to find the 360 in store. but marking up a clearance game is apparently very wrong and disrespectful to the community.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly my point. Whether you find it moral or not, at least try to be consistent.
My question is: As someone who expected market value for a PS3 that he paid a significantly lower retail price for (going so far as to tell a fellow CAG to check his eBay auction) why is so shocked and appalled when others do the same thing with the software?
Nobody could find those systems anywhere and lots of people wanted them. Some CAGs waited months to find the 360 in store. but marking up a clearance game is apparently very wrong and disrespectful to the community.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly my point. Whether you find it moral or not, at least try to be consistent.
My question is: As someone who expected market value for a PS3 that he paid a significantly lower retail price for (going so far as to tell a fellow CAG to check his eBay auction) why is so shocked and appalled when others do the same thing with the software?
[quote name='jalu6']Neudog at the time of the PS3 release...
Neudog yesterday...
Clearance sale or console launch it's still trying to cut a profit. I don't get it, did someone hack his account?[/QUOTE]
Wow a member after my own heart, a researcher. Do I sense some hostility or guilt perhaps. I knew going into this topic someone would delve deep into my profile and I'm not to worried or I would have refrained from the topic all together. What you fail to realize my illiterate friend is that I opted to go to eBay. I never said I did not try to make a profit on items, I clearly stated in the OP why people in this community would do it to one another knowing that we are all privy to the same info. No way would I purchase a $600 dollar system and expect anyone here to pay me double; unfortunately you could not find this info because it does not exist. I realize there is a huge profit market out there in many forms and I hop on the bandwagon occasionally, but I believe that I have been fair and upfront in every trade that I've done here. Here are 4 simple steps you can follow when going into any thread here: Read, understand what you've read, think about it for awhile, and then if you have a valid point that is not contradictory then we're all ears or in this case all eyes
Neudog yesterday...
Clearance sale or console launch it's still trying to cut a profit. I don't get it, did someone hack his account?[/QUOTE]
Wow a member after my own heart, a researcher. Do I sense some hostility or guilt perhaps. I knew going into this topic someone would delve deep into my profile and I'm not to worried or I would have refrained from the topic all together. What you fail to realize my illiterate friend is that I opted to go to eBay. I never said I did not try to make a profit on items, I clearly stated in the OP why people in this community would do it to one another knowing that we are all privy to the same info. No way would I purchase a $600 dollar system and expect anyone here to pay me double; unfortunately you could not find this info because it does not exist. I realize there is a huge profit market out there in many forms and I hop on the bandwagon occasionally, but I believe that I have been fair and upfront in every trade that I've done here. Here are 4 simple steps you can follow when going into any thread here: Read, understand what you've read, think about it for awhile, and then if you have a valid point that is not contradictory then we're all ears or in this case all eyes
[quote name='javeryh']Yeah - Kendro, Weedy and spidey got them. Shrike is probably getting my personal copy in a few months when I get sick of it/quit playing - and he's the undisputed king of trading around here...[/quote]
yeah, i don't hook up just any random cag that pms me anymore. the first time TRU put RE4 GC on sale for $10, i scored a shit ton of them for cags (didn't have a GC). i got so many damned pms and sold several for ~$15 for taxes time, shipping and gas.
there was this one guy that let me know he was a dead head and that $15 was out of line with what the CAG community was all about...blah blah blah. i just looked his profile up and he has 2 posts since 2004...last activity December 2006.
i think bottom line is that if you are noticed for trying to help out when you can, people will help you out. coming from a newbie's perspective, its probably hard to figure that out about this site unless you actively participate on a regular basis.
yeah, i don't hook up just any random cag that pms me anymore. the first time TRU put RE4 GC on sale for $10, i scored a shit ton of them for cags (didn't have a GC). i got so many damned pms and sold several for ~$15 for taxes time, shipping and gas.
there was this one guy that let me know he was a dead head and that $15 was out of line with what the CAG community was all about...blah blah blah. i just looked his profile up and he has 2 posts since 2004...last activity December 2006.
i think bottom line is that if you are noticed for trying to help out when you can, people will help you out. coming from a newbie's perspective, its probably hard to figure that out about this site unless you actively participate on a regular basis.
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