Why do people from the North feel superior to people from the South?

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I read this in another topic on here and had to ask. I deal with assholes from the North all day, and in fact they have thier own little community here in the Triangle (called CARY a.k.a. containment area for re-located yankees).

I just want to know what makes you think you are better than me?



This can get locked if you feel it unnecessary, but I want to know why Quack and alonzo mourning feel they are better than me (since I was born in Texas)
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Quack's from Virginia (unfortunately), so I don't see why that would be north versus south on that one.[/quote]

I know he is from Virginia, but he was bashing another Southern state, which is why I mentioned his name

I just see the hostility that Northern people have for southern people all the time and have to ask.
 
Oh come on. You're doing the same thing. "Northern assholes?" You've let a small group color your view of the whole. It's the same for most people up here. I see every story about some ultra-conservative bullshit trying to be pushed through the government in a southern state and think "why don't the people try to stop that? My state wouldn't stand for that kind of thing. We must just be better than those ignorant pig-f.uckers." Of course my rational mind knows that probably 90% of the people in the south are exactly like me, plus accent, but still, stereotyping is hard to break when A) the media, both news and entertainment, likes to continue subtly re-enforcing it and B) I don't have to debate it against any southerners in person. Do you think anyone running their mouth would be such a dong to their slightee's face?
 
[quote name='jmcc']Oh come on. You're doing the same thing. "Northern assholes?" You've let a small group color your view of the whole. It's the same for most people up here. I see every story about some ultra-conservative bullshit trying to be pushed through the government in a southern state and think "why don't the people try to stop that? My state wouldn't stand for that kind of thing. We must just be better than those ignorant pig-f.uckers." Of course my rational mind knows that probably 90% of the people in the south are exactly like me, plus accent, but still, stereotyping is hard to break when A) the media, both news and entertainment, likes to continue subtly re-enforcing it and B) I don't have to debate it against any southerners in person. Do you think anyone running their mouth would be such a dong to their slightee's face?[/quote]

I guess you are right about the stereotypical southener. I am not saying everyone from the North is an asshole ( both my father and mother are from NJ) but it seems like they feel entitled to belittle people from the south.

I guess I am still used to Southern Hospitality and my trip to the airport today fustrated me to all ends
 
I am not personally against southerners, but the south is responsible for a lot of shit in its time. I dont really feel like getting into it. But they have a strong ant-homosexual attitude in many states with the sodomy laws. They have some of the lowest education levels. They are considered the bible belt. My family had derogatory comments made towards them while living there. There has been a push there to include creationism or intelligent design as an alternative towards evoluition. Take my comments as u want, I am not against southerners, but I dont really see myself living in the south, at least not for awhile
 
As a northener living in a southern state i'll add this.

it's not that i hate southerners but things happen differently down here which can be irritating here is a small list of things that bug me

1. Things go slooooooow down here there is no sense of urgency
2. Customer Service is a lost art down here.
3. Education is not funded enough here(I had to pay for the paper my daughter uses in school)
 
[quote name='jlarlee']
3. Education is not funded enough here(I had to pay for the paper my daughter uses in school)[/quote]


That's not location, that's just buget cuts.

In my last two years of high school we always ran out of paper and teachers would have to buy their own or ask students to bring some in.

Schools are not funded enough anywhere.
 
[quote name='David85']In my last two years of high school we always ran out of paper and teachers would have to buy their own or ask students to bring some in.[/quote]

Your highschool paid for paper? I've never even heard of that. Here in Ohio, once you hit jr. high, you're responsible for bringing your own paper.The school supplies teacher, desks and books: everything else is up to the student to bring in.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Why do people from the North feel superior to people from the South?[/quote]
We live closer to Santa Claus, which means we get all the good presents. The PS2s, the XBoxes, the Nintendo DSs, the cute puppy dogs - all ours. By the time he reaches you guys, all he has left is a bunch of leftover Lite Brites and Easy Bake Ovens that nobody up here wanted. :twisted:
 
[quote name='Drocket'][quote name='CaseyRyback']Why do people from the North feel superior to people from the South?[/quote]
We live closer to Santa Claus, which means we get all the good presents. The PS2s, the XBoxes, the Nintendo DSs, the cute puppy dogs - all ours. By the time he reaches you guys, all he has left is a bunch of leftover Lite Brites and Easy Bake Ovens that nobody up here wanted. :twisted:[/quote]

that was great :lol:
 
[quote name='Drocket'][quote name='David85']In my last two years of high school we always ran out of paper and teachers would have to buy their own or ask students to bring some in.[/quote]

Your highschool paid for paper? I've never even heard of that. Here in Ohio, once you hit jr. high, you're responsible for bringing your own paper.The school supplies teacher, desks and books: everything else is up to the student to bring in.[/quote]


Well the school would give the paper to the teachers for reports and things, and give us students "math paper" aka used paper from the bathroom, but the teachers are like "fuck this" and gave us the good paper anyways.

They the school would bitch and 10 days later release 150 page booklet to 800 students explaining what the different courses (we didn't have money for anyways) did. A complete waste of a forest.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='elprincipe']Quack's from Virginia (unfortunately), so I don't see why that would be north versus south on that one.[/quote]

I know he is from Virginia, but he was bashing another Southern state, which is why I mentioned his name

I just see the hostility that Northern people have for southern people all the time and have to ask.[/quote]

I don't think he's especially proud of being a Virginian. He also equates the south with conservatism because it is more conservative than the northeast, and he hates conservatives (in case you were blind and couldn't tell).

Overall it's just a stereotype that some northerners have that southerners are slow, stupid and all a bunch of rednecks. They also equate a southern accent with not being as smart.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not personally against southerners, but the south is responsible for a lot of shit in its time. I dont really feel like getting into it. But they have a strong ant-homosexual attitude in many states with the sodomy laws. They have some of the lowest education levels. They are considered the bible belt. My family had derogatory comments made towards them while living there. There has been a push there to include creationism or intelligent design as an alternative towards evoluition. Take my comments as u want, I am not against southerners, but I dont really see myself living in the south, at least not for awhile[/quote]

Creationism in such southern bastions as Pennsylvania?
 
I'll tell you everything that I like about the south: they can cook very well.

That's about it.

What I don't like:
Country music

Bible-thumpers (i can go into more detail on this if anybody calls me out on it)
(combined with)
Evangelicals

General (albeit stereotypical) lack of intelligence (check the various smartest states lists floating around)

Lack of tolerance. Hate crimes? Gay persecution?
(which attributes to)
Red states. And not just (us vs. them), i disagree with the whole modern-day republican rhetoric.

When it really boils down to it, it just seems like the South is holding our progress back. They justify their actions with religion instead of science or common sense. Everything I see regarding the South (minus the food) rubs me the wrong way. The country music, the cowboys, the rodeos, the evangelical christians, the christian rock groups, we'd all be better off without them! But most of our food supply comes from the mid-west, so "you can't fuck with them".

I probably could've articulated that alot better (to make it sound less stereotypical), but meh. I will say however, that I have never been to the south, and I base my opinions on what I've seen/heard from the media. In all fairness, I have a bunch of friends that attend college with me in MA that are from the south, and most of them don't hold up to the stereotypes that I mentioned. But, when somebody asks you what you don't like about the "south", I assume that's what they're referring to.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']I'll tell you everything that I like about the south: they can cook very well.

That's about it.

What I don't like:
Country music

Bible-thumpers (i can go into more detail on this if anybody calls me out on it)
(combined with)
Evangelicals

General (albeit stereotypical) lack of intelligence (check the various smartest states lists floating around)

Lack of tolerance. Hate crimes? Gay persecution?
(which attributes to)
Red states. And not just (us vs. them), i disagree with the whole modern-day republican rhetoric.

When it really boils down to it, it just seems like the South is holding our progress back. They justify their actions with religion instead of science or common sense. Everything I see regarding the South (minus the food) rubs me the wrong way. The country music, the cowboys, the rodeos, the evangelical christians, the christian rock groups, we'd all be better off without them! But most of our food supply comes from the mid-west, so "you can't shaq-fu with them".

I probably could've articulated that alot better (to make it sound less stereotypical), but meh. I will say however, that I have never been to the south, and I base my opinions on what I've seen/heard from the media. In all fairness, I have a bunch of friends that attend college with me in MA that are from the south, and most of them don't hold up to the stereotypes that I mentioned. But, when somebody asks you what you don't like about the "south", I assume that's what they're referring to.[/quote]


you show exactly what elprinciple was describing. Rarely do you see a cowboy (and if you do, it is in the rural south more than likely). Country music is prominent, but that does not mean that you cannot find a decent music station. I for one have never had religion shoved down my throat living in the south, never once been forced to deal with creationism as a fact (we read about it in English, but that was about it).

Most people see the South as backwards, but calling one geographic area is backwards is kind of stupid. It is just depending on where you go (much like the North)


Do not believe everything you see on TV as they only try and show one side of an issue.
 
I don't see how I've looked down on southerners, I've made jokes and comments about texas, mainly because of bush and some laws that have recently existed, like the only recently overturned sodomy laws in texas by the supreme court (to someone like me, seeing one state legalize gay sex and seeing my state legalize gay marriage within a few years, says something about tolerance) but I don't see where I ever said anything about the people. I make similar comments about alberta (very conservative canadian province) as I do about texas, they're based on policies. As for the governments and legislators, I think the north is more progressive and more tolerant (in terms of laws), but I don't know where I ever said the people were better or worse, or even suggested that. It's politics, not people.
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not personally against southerners, but the south is responsible for a lot of shit in its time. I dont really feel like getting into it. But they have a strong ant-homosexual attitude in many states with the sodomy laws. They have some of the lowest education levels. They are considered the bible belt. My family had derogatory comments made towards them while living there. There has been a push there to include creationism or intelligent design as an alternative towards evoluition. Take my comments as u want, I am not against southerners, but I dont really see myself living in the south, at least not for awhile[/quote]

Creationism in such southern bastions as Pennsylvania?[/quote]

living in Pa u have to realize besides Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and a lil bit Harrisburg and some of their outlining areas its hicksville here. It might as well be the south. Stay on the turnpike, thats all I will say about that
 
I dont look down on Southerners but I tend to dislike Bible-Thumpers and Racists (the two stereotypes of the South).

Other than that, I like Southern girls. Especially those accents...
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not personally against southerners, but the south is responsible for a lot of shit in its time. I dont really feel like getting into it. But they have a strong ant-homosexual attitude in many states with the sodomy laws. They have some of the lowest education levels. They are considered the bible belt. My family had derogatory comments made towards them while living there. There has been a push there to include creationism or intelligent design as an alternative towards evoluition. Take my comments as u want, I am not against southerners, but I dont really see myself living in the south, at least not for awhile[/quote]

Creationism in such southern bastions as Pennsylvania?[/quote]

living in Pa u have to realize besides Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and a lil bit Harrisburg and some of their outlining areas its hicksville here. It might as well be the south. Stay on the turnpike, thats all I will say about that[/quote]

But PA isn't the south, which is my point. I think there was also a post on this board about some county in Wisconsin, undoubtedly to you another "hicksville" southern state in the north, teaching creationism as well.
 
Sounds like maybe in this topic "south" should be replaced with "rural"

Honestly, I just think its funny that people in rural areas think the president did a good job with 9/11 and terrorism while people in the cities that really have to worry about it think he sucks.
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not personally against southerners, but the south is responsible for a lot of shit in its time. I dont really feel like getting into it. But they have a strong ant-homosexual attitude in many states with the sodomy laws. They have some of the lowest education levels. They are considered the bible belt. My family had derogatory comments made towards them while living there. There has been a push there to include creationism or intelligent design as an alternative towards evoluition. Take my comments as u want, I am not against southerners, but I dont really see myself living in the south, at least not for awhile[/quote]

Creationism in such southern bastions as Pennsylvania?[/quote]

living in Pa u have to realize besides Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and a lil bit Harrisburg and some of their outlining areas its hicksville here. It might as well be the south. Stay on the turnpike, thats all I will say about that[/quote]

But PA isn't the south, which is my point. I think there was also a post on this board about some county in Wisconsin, undoubtedly to you another "hicksville" southern state in the north, teaching creationism as well.[/quote]

one isolated incident and you are trying to make it sound like I think that PA and Wisconsin are northern south states. I am talking about states as a whole, an average of the state. You take one incident and blow it up, very scientific. Do yourself a favor and look up the word outlier. Just because PA has a lot of hicks in it does not make southern in my opinion. Just like a bunch of people on CAG who are asses, dont make the whole community an ass.
 
[quote name='Heyricochet']Sounds like maybe in this topic "south" should be replaced with "rural"

Honestly, I just think its funny that people in rural areas think the president did a good job with 9/11 and terrorism while people in the cities that really have to worry about it think he sucks.[/quote]

Do they really think he did a great job? Or do they just feel better knowing a born-again christian is Our Leader.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not personally against southerners, but the south is responsible for a lot of shit in its time. I dont really feel like getting into it. But they have a strong ant-homosexual attitude in many states with the sodomy laws. They have some of the lowest education levels. They are considered the bible belt. My family had derogatory comments made towards them while living there. There has been a push there to include creationism or intelligent design as an alternative towards evoluition. Take my comments as u want, I am not against southerners, but I dont really see myself living in the south, at least not for awhile[/quote]

Creationism in such southern bastions as Pennsylvania?[/quote]

living in Pa u have to realize besides Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and a lil bit Harrisburg and some of their outlining areas its hicksville here. It might as well be the south. Stay on the turnpike, thats all I will say about that[/quote]

But PA isn't the south, which is my point. I think there was also a post on this board about some county in Wisconsin, undoubtedly to you another "hicksville" southern state in the north, teaching creationism as well.[/quote]

one isolated incident and you are trying to make it sound like I think that PA and Wisconsin are northern south states. I am talking about states as a whole, an average of the state. You take one incident and blow it up, very scientific. Do yourself a favor and look up the word outlier. Just because PA has a lot of hicks in it does not make southern in my opinion. Just like a bunch of people on CAG who are asses, dont make the whole community an ass.[/quote]

Ironically, our northern portions IS pretty stereotypically southern.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='Heyricochet']Sounds like maybe in this topic "south" should be replaced with "rural"

Honestly, I just think its funny that people in rural areas think the president did a good job with 9/11 and terrorism while people in the cities that really have to worry about it think he sucks.[/quote]

Do they really think he did a great job? Or do they just feel better knowing a born-again christian is Our Leader.[/quote]

Would that really be that big a deal?
I mean, Kerry was openly Catholic...
he differed from the Church on a few issues, but it wasn't like he was part of some obscure sect or cult, or an athiest or agnostic.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='Heyricochet']Sounds like maybe in this topic "south" should be replaced with "rural"

Honestly, I just think its funny that people in rural areas think the president did a good job with 9/11 and terrorism while people in the cities that really have to worry about it think he sucks.[/quote]

Do they really think he did a great job? Or do they just feel better knowing a born-again christian is Our Leader.[/quote]

Would that really be that big a deal?
I mean, Kerry was openly Catholic...
he differed from the Church on a few issues, but it wasn't like he was part of some obscure sect or cult, or an athiest or agnostic.[/quote]

There's a huge difference between a fundamentalist and a Catholic. Just ask any evangelist in the midwest. Or any old Irishman who ever worked back in the "NINA" times.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']I am not personally against southerners, but the south is responsible for a lot of shit in its time. I dont really feel like getting into it. But they have a strong ant-homosexual attitude in many states with the sodomy laws. They have some of the lowest education levels. They are considered the bible belt. My family had derogatory comments made towards them while living there. There has been a push there to include creationism or intelligent design as an alternative towards evoluition. Take my comments as u want, I am not against southerners, but I dont really see myself living in the south, at least not for awhile[/quote]

Creationism in such southern bastions as Pennsylvania?[/quote]

living in Pa u have to realize besides Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and a lil bit Harrisburg and some of their outlining areas its hicksville here. It might as well be the south. Stay on the turnpike, thats all I will say about that[/quote]

But PA isn't the south, which is my point. I think there was also a post on this board about some county in Wisconsin, undoubtedly to you another "hicksville" southern state in the north, teaching creationism as well.[/quote]

one isolated incident and you are trying to make it sound like I think that PA and Wisconsin are northern south states. I am talking about states as a whole, an average of the state. You take one incident and blow it up, very scientific. Do yourself a favor and look up the word outlier. Just because PA has a lot of hicks in it does not make southern in my opinion. Just like a bunch of people on CAG who are asses, dont make the whole community an ass.[/quote]

You obviously don't realize that the creation science in schools thing has been going on all over the country, not just in the south. There was a big controversy in Kansas a few years back about banning the teaching of evolution in another example. You talk as if you know everything about the south and their attitudes, yet your opinions are obviously taken directly from media stereotypes.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='Heyricochet']Sounds like maybe in this topic "south" should be replaced with "rural"

Honestly, I just think its funny that people in rural areas think the president did a good job with 9/11 and terrorism while people in the cities that really have to worry about it think he sucks.[/quote]

Do they really think he did a great job? Or do they just feel better knowing a born-again christian is Our Leader.[/quote]

Would that really be that big a deal?
I mean, Kerry was openly Catholic...
he differed from the Church on a few issues, but it wasn't like he was part of some obscure sect or cult, or an athiest or agnostic.[/quote]

There's a huge difference between a fundamentalist and a Catholic. Just ask any evangelist in the midwest. Or any old Irishman who ever worked back in the "NINA" times.[/quote]

So you, being an atheist, would prefer an atheist in office and criticize anyone who is deeply religious as off their rocker. How tolerant.
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='Heyricochet']Sounds like maybe in this topic "south" should be replaced with "rural"

Honestly, I just think its funny that people in rural areas think the president did a good job with 9/11 and terrorism while people in the cities that really have to worry about it think he sucks.[/quote]

Do they really think he did a great job? Or do they just feel better knowing a born-again christian is Our Leader.[/quote]

Would that really be that big a deal?
I mean, Kerry was openly Catholic...
he differed from the Church on a few issues, but it wasn't like he was part of some obscure sect or cult, or an athiest or agnostic.[/quote]

There's a huge difference between a fundamentalist and a Catholic. Just ask any evangelist in the midwest. Or any old Irishman who ever worked back in the "NINA" times.[/quote]

So you, being an atheist, would prefer an atheist in office and criticize anyone who is deeply religious as off their rocker. How tolerant.[/quote]

I prefer the best man for the job in the office. I want someone who is going to be fair and impartial, whether he's white/black/asian-american/christian/muslim/hindu/confuscianist/whatever. I deeply criticize anyone who tries to rule a democracy using their god's law instead of the country's law.

I never said I was an athiest, you're assuming that. Frankly, you don't know what my religious status is.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='Heyricochet']Sounds like maybe in this topic "south" should be replaced with "rural"

Honestly, I just think its funny that people in rural areas think the president did a good job with 9/11 and terrorism while people in the cities that really have to worry about it think he sucks.[/quote]

Do they really think he did a great job? Or do they just feel better knowing a born-again christian is Our Leader.[/quote]

Would that really be that big a deal?
I mean, Kerry was openly Catholic...
he differed from the Church on a few issues, but it wasn't like he was part of some obscure sect or cult, or an athiest or agnostic.[/quote]

There's a huge difference between a fundamentalist and a Catholic. Just ask any evangelist in the midwest. Or any old Irishman who ever worked back in the "NINA" times.[/quote]

So you, being an atheist, would prefer an atheist in office and criticize anyone who is deeply religious as off their rocker. How tolerant.[/quote]

I prefer the best man for the job in the office. I want someone who is going to be fair and impartial, whether he's white/black/asian-american/christian/muslim/hindu/confuscianist/whatever. I deeply criticize anyone who tries to rule a democracy using their god's law instead of the country's law.[/quote]

I think the problem is you feel people can separate their religious feelings from the rest of their "secular" lives. Let me be the one to tell you that they are one and the same. If someone is religious, like Bush for example, religion is going to affect everything in their life. It's been that way for every president and is that way for the majority of Americans.

[quote name='camoor']I never said I was an athiest, you're assuming that. Frankly, you don't know what my religious status is.[/quote]

I apologize for that, I thought I recalled seeing you state you were atheist. There are many on this board compared to the general population! May I ask the meaning of your avatar, then?
 
[quote name='elprincipe']I think the problem is you feel people can separate their religious feelings from the rest of their "secular" lives.[/quote]
Rational people can. Rational people can say, "This is how I feel about the subject, but this is what the law says, so that's what I'll do because my job is to enforce the law, not to abuse my power based on my own personal feelings." Its only utter idiots who have difficulty with that and think its perfectly OK to put the 10 commandments outside a courthouse or other similar idiocy.

Sadly, there are very few rational people in the world.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']I think the problem is you feel people can separate their religious feelings from the rest of their "secular" lives. Let me be the one to tell you that they are one and the same. If someone is religious, like Bush for example, religion is going to affect everything in their life. It's been that way for every president and is that way for the majority of Americans.
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The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.
-- James Madison, letter objecting to the use of government land for churches, 1803
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Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
--Thomas Jefferson, February 10, 1814
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The founders were educated men who knew what happens when power is focused in the hands of men who use the tenets of a particular religion, instead of reason and compassion, to make political or legal decisions. They set out in a bold experiment to change that in this new world, turning their backs on the feudal monarchies and papacies propped up by religion in the old world. Sadly, religious tenets are starting to creep back into the brilliant system of government that these men designed (some are even trying to formalize their religious ideas in the American anthems and Constitution - think of the 1954 addition of "under god" to the pledge of allegiance or the prohibition of gay marriage that some want to tack on the back page of the constitution)

[quote name='camoor']I never said I was an athiest, you're assuming that. Frankly, you don't know what my religious status is.[/quote]

[quote name='elprincipe']
I apologize for that, I thought I recalled seeing you state you were atheist. There are many on this board compared to the general population! May I ask the meaning of your avatar, then?[/quote]

'Cause I've got Pac-Man Fever, Pac-Man Fever.
 
im from GA and currently living in Rhode Island, and a lot of the people up here are evil, and a lot cant drive for crap. But other than the accents, and the lack of waffle house and sweet tea, its not a whole lot different. But they all definately assume that ur a redneck if your from the south. Its funny because they try to make it sound like im the one from some wierd small town play, and im just like "you do realize that the state you live in is the size of the county i am from right?"
 
[quote name='cthcky33']i just realized the last post was a day and a half ago.... o well, free bump i guess[/quote]
Actually, 7 hours. You can't figure out how to subtract one timestamp from another and you want to argue about the intelligence of southerners? :p
 
We drive bad because we have places to go. My aunt lives in GA and there is NOTHING there for miles and miles, so of course you aren't in a rush.

My boyfriend almost got hit but this old asshole lady last week, she was from Florida, and she flicked him off. Very dumb move, he parked his car on the bridge, got out, banged on her window and started screaming at her.

Stupid Floridain bitch.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='Heyricochet']Sounds like maybe in this topic "south" should be replaced with "rural"

Honestly, I just think its funny that people in rural areas think the president did a good job with 9/11 and terrorism while people in the cities that really have to worry about it think he sucks.[/quote]

Do they really think he did a great job? Or do they just feel better knowing a born-again christian is Our Leader.[/quote]

Would that really be that big a deal?
I mean, Kerry was openly Catholic...
he differed from the Church on a few issues, but it wasn't like he was part of some obscure sect or cult, or an athiest or agnostic.[/quote]

There's a huge difference between a fundamentalist and a Catholic. Just ask any evangelist in the midwest. Or any old Irishman who ever worked back in the "NINA" times.[/quote]

I guess so. I'm actually surprised that fundamentalists are that key to swinging votes. Of course, I guess it would make sense... Catholics tend to defer to the Pope or say the respectfully disagree with the Church, and Evangelists make themselves a law beholden only to themselves.


I quite well aware of the plight of the Irish. Having an Irish Surname tends to lead to that.
 
I apologize for that, I thought I recalled seeing you state you were atheist. There are many on this board compared to the general population! May I ask the meaning of your avatar, then?

'Cause I've got Pac-Man Fever, Pac-Man Fever.

Actually, after having read up the history of the symbology of the "Jesus fish", I find the avatar even funnier. In it's now extant use, it was the symbol of an earth goddess, and the symbol was meant to be an outline of her vulva.

That makes that avatar at least 10x more funny.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Actually, after having read up the history of the symbology of the "Jesus fish", I find the avatar even funnier. In it's now extant use, it was the symbol of an earth goddess, and the symbol was meant to be an outline of her vulva. [/quote]

That's one of the things I love about the Christian religion: 90% of their religious symbols are outright stolen from other religious systems. Meanwhile, whenever anyone uses 'Xmas', a religious abreviation they themselves created, they scream bloody hell about people trying to remove Christ from Christmas. (for those who don't know, 'X' is the 'official' abbreviation for Christ/Jesus, representing the cross, in use for hundreds of years. Its especially fun when Catholics get upset about it because the symbol is still in wide use in Vatican writings.)
 
[quote name='Drocket'][quote name='JSweeney']Actually, after having read up the history of the symbology of the "Jesus fish", I find the avatar even funnier. In it's now extant use, it was the symbol of an earth goddess, and the symbol was meant to be an outline of her vulva. [/quote]

That's one of the things I love about the Christian religion: 90% of their religious symbols are outright stolen from other religious systems. Meanwhile, whenever anyone uses 'Xmas', a religious abreviation they themselves created, they scream bloody hell about people trying to remove Christ from Christmas. (for those who don't know, 'X' is the 'official' abbreviation for Christ/Jesus, representing the cross, in use for hundreds of years. Its especially fun when Catholics get upset about it because the symbol is still in wide use in Vatican writings.)[/quote]

The problem with that line of thought is that the Xmas abrievation has a different connotation. That discussion has already been had on this board though, and doesn't need to be revisited.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']The problem with that line of thought is that the Xmas abrievation has a different connotation.[/quote]
It was never intended to. It was simply used by people who didn't have enough room (in an ad or banner) to spell out Christmas, so they simply put the completely acceptible abbreviation Xmas there instead. Then, the uneducated, unwashed masses rose up and started screaming about everyone being out to get them.
 
It's kinda like Bocephus said in "Dixie on My Mind".

I've visited the North, big cities in particular, but I prefer to stay South of the Mason Dixon and East of the MS River.

I won't go into the differences between the North and South, but I will say that I prefer the South. The biggest difference other than accent is the women. Southern college campuses have a much higher concentration of good looking girls. The Western US has its fair share, but I prefer Southern Belles anyday of the week.
 
[quote name='Drocket'][quote name='JSweeney']The problem with that line of thought is that the Xmas abrievation has a different connotation.[/quote]
It was never intended to. It was simply used by people who didn't have enough room (in an ad or banner) to spell out Christmas, so they simply put the completely acceptible abbreviation Xmas there instead. Then, the uneducated, unwashed masses rose up and started screaming about everyone being out to get them.[/quote]

While that was never the intent, that is the current practical use of the phrase. After recieving pushback on it, companies wide stopped the use (Why wouldn't they... they'd have to lose business over so trival a thing)

For good or for ill, the usage of Xmas has a negative connotion, and most sources (dictionaries, etc) will make mention of that.

Of course, this has all been gone over in depth in another topic.
 
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