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This is interesting to me...
See how some save files just will not even be copied? Well, in MLaaK, when you start downloading the content..it becomes one separate save file. It just increases in the amount of blocks. So I have 1 save file, and 1 DLC file.. and I was SURPRISED that I was able to ACTUALLY copy over the DLC. After it copied it said that the data can not be transfered to another Wii system.
I have been doing this for awhile..(you all know how I go through points/space) and I never seen this message before.

So, why can I move the DLC..yet..I can't even move my Smash Bros save file?
 
[quote name='lilboo']So, why can I move the DLC..yet..I can't even move my Smash Bros save file?[/quote]

Well, my theory on this is that the save file is tied to the friend code. Sorta how when you setup a DS friend code it says that the "Code is tied to the cart and the system" or something like that. I mean, you can't copy an Elebits save file either, and that's not a Nintendo made game.
It is annoying, though.

I think there should be a separate file that contains all FC information to make things easier. It should probably be something that isn't even part of the save files, and just have a part of the memory partitioned for it like the message board.
 
I totally understand that, but.. you can't transfer any saves to another Wii! (I am almost positive that this is true)
So... what's wrong with just storing it? :whistle2:s
 
Ugh. Found a glitch in Lost Winds. :(

I don't know if this can be reproduced anywhere else, or at any other time at the game, but in the
Old Village
area where you get the
2nd chest
, if you burn one of the bridges while standing on it the game will only allow you to move a few steps and then glitch out not allowing you to move Toku at all.

Given that the game is released on WiiWare, I wonder how easy it would be for them to patch it?
 
[quote name='lilboo']I totally understand that, but.. you can't transfer any saves to another Wii! (I am almost positive that this is true)
So... what's wrong with just storing it? :whistle2:s[/quote]

You can transfer some save files to other Wii systems. I mean, just as long as you can copy the file itself from the Wii. No silly "can't tranfer" messages.


Anyway, i'm on the big rock golem boss for Lost Winds, and I can't fingure out how to kill it. Anyone?


Nevermind. Figured it out with the bf. I had no idea how to kill those black blobs that constantly pop out more blobs... till now.
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']for those who live the VC Reviews website, they have an additional site focusing only on wii ware with reviews:

http://www.wiiware-world.com/[/quote]

Thanks for the heads up on the site.

Are all the articles written by the same person or do they really only have authors with the first letter 'd' in the name lol?
 
[quote name='BlueLobstah']
Given that the game is released on WiiWare, I wonder how easy it would be for them to patch it?[/quote]
Very easy. They just fix the bugs and put up the new version on the Wiiware store, allowing you to redownload the fixed version, which replaces your old version of the game. I know this has happened to Star Fox 64, and I'm pretty sure it's happened with a few other Virtual Console games.
 
[quote name='lilboo']I totally understand that, but.. you can't transfer any saves to another Wii! (I am almost positive that this is true)
So... what's wrong with just storing it? :whistle2:s[/QUOTE]

you can transfer saves to other wii systems. it's strange though. the game has to have been played on the system first.

so, let's say you have (for example) warioware save data on an sd card. you go to wii #2 (the first being your original that you got the data from) and you try to copy the data. won't happen. but if you play warioware on wii #2 and create a save file of it's own, then delete the save data, you're now able to copy warioware data onto the system from an sd card.

so... somewhere the system keeps track of what games you've played, i guess... so that it knows what save data is 'legal' and which is not.

but to address you're "multiple save files" thing with the DLC and the friend code nonsense... all wi-fi games should at least be set up like mario strikers charged. the save data exists in one file, with all the game data and the online data together. but when you try to copy it, it says that not all the data has been copied. the online stuff that is tied to the system will not copy over to an sd card, while your actual game data remains intact.

the best option would be to allow it all to be copied, and treat online games like vc games, locked down and tied to a system. you can copy them to sd cards all you want, but you can only copy'em back to the original system they came from. i don't understand why online games (like smash) do not work like this. let me copy it over to an sd card for storage, just don't let me copy it to another wii system other than my own. seems pretty simple, since it's already in place with vc games.

sorry, but i've been bitching about this storage thing (specifically the games that cannot be copied to sd cards) since elebits. i have WAY too many games, and want WAY too many more, for bullshit like this to become an unnecessary obstacle.

 
I found a "glitch" in Lost Winds as well, and I hope others can do it.

After you get
slipstream
, activate it and start moving Toku in the opposite direction he's facing.

If you do it correctly, he'll moonwalk.

I have already used this to impress the honeys in the village.
 
I am single handedly going to be the sole reason this storage issue gets fixed.
I will be the Martin Luther King of the Wii generation. Maybe this is why I'm really like My Life as a King? :whistle2:k

For those with small amounts of blocks, do this.
KEEP YOUR NINTENDO CHANNEL.
Make sure you allow them to read your shit (basically sign up for the DS Demo channel)
NOW make sure you have less then 100 blocks of memory on your Wii.
SIGN INTO NINTENDO CHANNEL. Apparently, it'll read how many blocks you have.

For the love of god, do this daily. LET THEM KNOW WE LOW ON BLOCKS.
:pray:

I already raped a few dozen Japanese people when Brawl got delayed again, I have no problem going around raping EVERYONE until a solution is made.

/SERIOUS
 
So lilboo, what sort of sexual favors are in order if someday a Nintendo exec announces a solution to the storage problem, and then directly implicates you as a sole reason?

Because let's face it - we'll all have to play by those rules, aye?

Anyone who says otherwise can go find the door, and let it him them on the face and ass on the way out.
 
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Or possibly this...
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[quote name='yukine']Call me crazy, but I swear threads in the Wii forums always turn gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.[/quote]
Turn gay? You mean turn more gay.
 
Maybe you can help me with this, lilboo. Is there any sort of validity to the (approximately) year-long rumor about a remake of the N64 WWE No Mercy with updated rosters for WiiWare? If there isn't, then just break my heart right now.
 
This week as part of the Hanabi Festival, Europe got Gley Lancer - Sega Genesis/900 Points, Digital Champ Battle Boxing - Turbografx/700 Points, and Star Parodier - Turbografx/900 Points.
 
[quote name='UltimoRey']Finally beat Lost winds today, little dissapointed. Wish it was longer for 1000 points. If it was 750 I would have been more content.[/quote]
When you get the sequel, you should play slower.
 
Then you should play better AND slower.

Next time, put your system next to the fridge. Open the freezer. Sit next to it for 4 hours without moving.

By then your corndogs will be thawed and soggy, but the cold blood that pumps through your black heart will have partially solidified, and like the majestic Gila Monster, your body will compensate by moving more slowly.

That solves the playing slower part. I don't know how to make you a better player. Maybe there's a special hat you can wear.
 
[quote name='Strell']Then you should play better AND slower.

Next time, put your system next to the fridge. Open the freezer. Sit next to it for 4 hours without moving.

By then your corndogs will be thawed and soggy, but the cold blood that pumps through your black heart will have partially solidified, and like the majestic Gila Monster, your body will compensate by moving more slowly.

That solves the playing slower part. I don't know how to make you a better player. Maybe there's a special hat you can wear.[/quote]
1. I don't have corndogs in my freezer. If i want a corn dog, I go to hotdog on a stick OR forster's freeze.
2. I'm not a Gila Monster. I am the Lorax, I speak for the tree. At least I do when they're not being asses. Stupid trees!
3. I can't wear a hat and your mom at the same time.
 
[quote name='UltimoRey']1. I don't have corndogs in my freezer. If i want a corn dog, I go to hotdog on a stick OR forster's freeze.
2. I'm not a Gila Monster. I am the Lorax, I speak for the tree. At least I do when they're not being asses. Stupid trees!
3. I can't wear a hat and your mom at the same time.[/QUOTE]

1. I was basing your corndog inventory on your avatar, who looks like he was made out of corndog sticks after they were licked clean by a tongue that was also covered in black paint.

2. And I am the Once-ler, you all day sucker, I'm here to kill the trees 'cuz I'm a motherfucker, the Truffulas and Brown Barbaloots all know my name, and they know I'm coming to cleave them in twain, round and round the forest I'll go, leaving destruction and chaos and plenty of woe, until all the trees lie down in a ditch, and blame their lazy friend the Lorax, who was a bitch.

3. Then you aren't as talented as I am.
 
Well it looks like Gamespot is content with continuing it's legacy of being the most hard-assed when it comes to reviews of games. They just posted reviews of 2 of the new WiiWare games:

Lost Winds - 5.5 : Too short , little personality , tease you with a sequel instead of giving you your moneys worth up front.

FF:CC:MLAAK - 5.0 : Too simple , not much fun , pretty much requires you to buy most of the DLC just to get basic enjoyment out of the game.

While I'm sure most of us here don't make our sole judgements of buying a game based on reviews , they do seem dissapointing none the less , since you know there will be plenty of people who probably won't buy the games because of those scores. I'm still gonna buy them both though.
 
[quote name='StarKnightX']
Lost Winds - 5.5 : Too short , little personality , tease you with a sequel instead of giving you your moneys worth up front.

FF:CC:MLAAK - 5.0 : Too simple , not much fun , pretty much requires you to buy most of the DLC just to get basic enjoyment out of the game.
[/QUOTE]

I've highlighted things I either know are false, or are just sensationalism.

LostWinds has more personality than a lot of the cookie cutter shit we see these days. It's no Monkey Island or Katamari or Sam and Max or GodHand, but it damn sure is full of personality.

As for MLAAK, it seems to me that most of the people buying the DLC admit that it's not absolutely required to have fun. But I haven't gotten the game yet (teetering on a very sharp edge at the moment), so I can't speak too freely.

There's a hell of a lot of boring Flash-clone games I could name that don't stand up to half the substance the above titles do that I see in retail markets, both physical and digital, so I have no idea why Gamespot is grinding this stone so hard.
 
I can confirm that the DLC only ADDS to the gameplay experience, but it is NOT required. I am just a lunatic with a lot of Wii points so of COURSE I purchased some DLC.

If I didn't have them, I wouldn't have purchased the DLC . I still would of had fun with the game.
 
I thought Lost Winds was great, I think Gamespot missed the boat on this one. Hopefully people go to several places to gather their info and not just there.
 
I checked around the other two main sites I usually check for reviews (IGN and 1up , with 1up being my main source followed by GS and IGN) and both of them were more generous:

1up , FF:CC:MLAAK - B+ : Could use a little more action , the other races have to be bought , otherwise fun game with room to grow and expand.

IGN , FF:CC:MLAAK - 7.5 : Nerdy main character , a bit too much repitition in daily tasks , surprising amount of story , fun despite slow pacing , DLC is mainly for superfans.

IGN , Lost Winds - 8.3 : Short but fun , clever puzzles , good controls , minor frame-rate problems , too much bloom effects , does more with 43 megs and a $10 price tag than most $50 wii games do with a whole disk.

I admit I may have simplified GSs comments a bit so here are direct quote snippets taken straight from the reviews:

[quote name='GS - LostWinds']The sometimes sloppy controls and occasional camera glitches are the first evidence that something is not quite right here, but it's the sleepy presentation and all-too-easy puzzles that ultimately doom LostWinds.

The story of LostWinds is one every person can relate to: boy meets wind deity, deity gives boy special powers, boy and deity save village from evil monsters. Once the roles are established, you'll spend the rest of the game searching for new abilities and hidden memory chests with only brief interruptions from distressed citizens to warn you of the impending darkness poised to envelop their little town. Like much of this game, these interactions lack personality. The characters are stylistically familiar to anyone who has played Okami, but they lack the quirkiness that made that game so memorable.

Visually, LostWinds seems like it's geared toward inducing sleep in people suffering from insomnia. The opening scene will have you believing that you're in for a treat with delicate colors and expressive backgrounds, but that idea quickly blackens as you trudge through the murky depths of the town's underground mines.

The problem with controlling a powerful force of nature is that wind doesn't have a fine touch. Objects not bolted to the ground tend to blow around the environment like dandelions, which makes precise maneuvers something of a chore.[/quote]

[quote name='GS - FF:CC:MLAAK']This sounds like a solid setup for Square Enix's sunny strategy romp, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King. But while its title might be imposing, the gameplay is shallow, repetitive, and fundamentally unbalanced. Furthermore, if you want to get the most out of this $15 WiiWare download, you need to spend even more money. Want a new outfit for the king? It'll cost you $1. Want a new house to supplement the paltry selection of abodes included with the standard download? It's another $3. Getting the most out of this thin game requires spending twice the asking amount, and that's a bona fide rip-off.

While there is a seeming wealth of information to peruse in the downtime, it's all window dressing, and any sense of depth you might discern from it is a complete masquerade. The kingdom's limited lots lock you in virtual handcuffs, so while there is some freedom in how you develop your travelers, My Life as a King isn't strategic at all.

The limitations pile on, one after another. Fans of city builders will deplore the lack of real options: There are very few structures at your disposal, and you can have only a limited number of each. You can't tell your adventurers how to spend their money. You can't fire them in favor of new candidates. You can't even adjust your tax rates.

$15 doesn't seem like a lot for a game that could take you 9 or 10 hours to finish, but much of that time is useless padding spent clicking on random townspeople for morale (and to give you something to do). To charge $3 just to add a different house to the tiny existing selection is outrageous, especially if you buy the content after you've played the game for a few hours.[/quote]

Wow that kinda turned into a novel there. This is almost starting to look like the Loz:TP incident again , the difference being the Zelda's score wasn't really "bad" in the grand scheme of things , it was just the perception of it. In this case though , those scores seem completly out of wack.
 
I did finish LostWinds last night, and I still think it is fantastic.

There's some definite shortcomings that come from either a rushed schedule or a lack of funding - I can't tell which. For example, the accessory characters don't have much animation, and they really need a few more frames to look alive.

There could be more variety in the enemies.

There are definitely glitches in the system - I managed to glitch twice while fighting the end guy. One of them required a restart. Thankfully I guess the game autosaves when you talk to Deo, as I was dreading doing another hour's worth of the same thing I'd just done. The second time I glitched during the boss, I was able to get out of it. For the record, the first one got me stuck on the left side of the screen - I couldn't get out. The second caused me to be "in the ground," as if I had be smacked by Donkey Kong from Brawl. Letting myself get hit got me out of that though.

Boss fight was a little easy.

Could use a map, a small inventory/pause screen, and some other little touches.

I wish there could be voice acting, but I'm guessing the size limitation denies that.

All in all, however, a really great game. The only honest complaint is the length, and that's only because I hunger for the next episode.
 
LostWinds
81/100, six reviews recorded. GamePro gave it 100 (high), GameSpot gave it 55 (low).
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/lostwinds

Final Fantasy
76/100, six reviews recorded. GamePro gave it 90 (high), Gamespot gave it a 50 (low).
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/finalfantasycrystalchroniclesmylifeasaking

and just because...

Defend Your Castle
74/100, five reviews recorded. IGN gave it 79 (high), 1UP gave it a 67 (low)
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/defendyourcastle

Pop
67/100, three reviews recorded. GamePro gave it an 80 (high), Gamervision gave it a 60 (low)
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/pop

TV Show King
62/100, two reviews recorded. IGN gave it a 64 (high), Gamervision gave it a 60 (low)
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/tvshowking

What have we learned?
- GamePro likes WiiWare games
- Gamespot and Gamervision do not
- These games all got pretty mediocre reviews, which makes sense because they are all pretty mediocre, but...
- They are cheap and...
- They are WiiWare, which is exciting.
 
It's hard to take GameSpot reviews seriously now, you know considering most of their quality reviewers have quit.

Tom McShea wrote the review for LostWinds... WHO!?

Although I tend to agree with Kevin VanOrd's opinion of games... Crystal Chronicles looked a bit lame to me anyway, I'll still get it eventually but not now, I've got enough XBLA games to buy and play as well as Wii VC games.
 
So I went to a Gamestop today to hand in a job application and got me another points card (also snagged the 1st 2 volumes of the hellsing anime for $18 at FYE :D). Got lost winds but had no time to play it except for like 10 minutes. From what I played of it it seems like an average platformer with Wii controlls mixed into the mix. Maybe I need to play a lot more of it to get what it is about, which I will do right now. Looks real great though, love the art style. Not too sure about the gameplay yet though.
 
[quote name='yukine']I'm tired, I thought you said you went to Gamestop to get a hand job. :lol:[/quote]

:applause:

Comprehension fatigue FTW!

On that note, I really need to pick up a WiiWare game. Oops.
 
[quote name='yukine']I'm tired, I thought you said you went to Gamestop to get a hand job. :lol:[/quote]Oh please if I can't trust them with any video game questions, I am sure as hell not going to trust them with any part of my body :lol:.

Anyway getting back on topic, anyone know if any VC games are due out this week? Just curious.

Oh and when I was downloading Lost Winds, I remembered Lilboo's plan to get us more storage for the Wii. I had 83 blocks left after the download so I transfered some games NES over just so I could hop right on the Nintendo Channel to fuck with them, lol.
 
Man Lost winds is awesome. It took me a while to get used to it, but it could've been jumping right from beating gta iv to playing Lost winds.
 
I forgot one, not that anyone probably cares.

V.I.P. Casino: Blackjack
55/100, three reviews, IGN gave it a 65 (high) and GamePro gave it a 40 (low)
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/vipcasinoblackjack

I've never understood casino-style games on a console. You can't play card games with local multiplayer, because everyone else has to look away while you look at your hand. And as far as I know, this does not have online multiplayer. Plus, it's blackjack. Who cares about blackjack with fake money? I do like this line from GamePro's review:

...the most fun you'll have with V.I.P. Casino Blackjack is in watching Mr. Paradise slowly clap his hands like one of those cymbal-playing toy monkeys whenever he wins a hand.
 
Casino games can be fun. Really. But when it's ONE game from a Casino? No thanks.
I like full casino games. Slots, poker, black jack, keno, etc.

Had this been VIP Casino I would have downloaded it. Well, no. I'd rather have had a casino game with the miis ^_^
 
[quote name='lilboo']Casino games can be fun. Really. But when it's ONE game from a Casino? No thanks.
I like full casino games. Slots, poker, black jack, keno, etc.

Had this been VIP Casino I would have downloaded it. Well, no. I'd rather have had a casino game with the miis ^_^[/quote]
Hadn't thought of the Miis. Given my Mii fetish, if there was a complete casino game with online play and full Mii integration, I would get it for sure.

I'm now thinking this would be an essential WiiWare title. You could also make the "money" matter (the hardest thing to do with virtual money) by having running totals for the Miis with tournaments and online leaderboards. If you went bankrupt, you would just have to start over with a small stake, or maybe you could go into debt and then comically oversized Miis could come and break your Mii's legs and then you would have to play the rest of the game in a wheelchair. Someone please tell me Nintendo is working on this (I'd even still get it without the permanent maiming option).
 
It would be awesome to be able to wager Wii Points, but I assume that would be the same as real gambling.

Anyway, I hope we see another VC title next week despite the probable appearance of Dr Mario next Monday.
 
[quote name='lordwow']Anyway, I hope we see another VC title next week despite the probable appearance of Dr Mario next Monday.[/quote]
Nothing else matters when you have Dr. Mario. Unless Cho Aniki comes out.

I thought de Blob was supposed to be WiiWare, but now it looks like it's getting a full retail release. Maybe I was thinking of World of Goo, which IGN seems to think is releasing next week. I would love it if IGN was right, but I can't believe there are seven WiiWare games releasing next week.

05/19 World of Goo
05/19 Dr. Mario Online Rx
05/19 Gyrostarr
05/19 Major League Eating: The...
05/19 Protöthea
05/19 Star Soldier R
05/19 Toki Tori
 
[quote name='mephitical']Nothing else matters when you have Dr. Mario. Unless Cho Aniki comes out.

I thought de Blob was supposed to be WiiWare, but now it looks like it's getting a full retail release. Maybe I was thinking of World of Goo, which IGN seems to think is releasing next week. I would love it if IGN was right, but I can't believe there are seven WiiWare games releasing next week.

05/19 World of Goo
05/19 Dr. Mario Online Rx
05/19 Gyrostarr
05/19 Major League Eating: The...
05/19 Protöthea
05/19 Star Soldier R
05/19 Toki Tori[/quote]

I really hope that list is true. World of Goo will be mine if so.
 
[quote name='mephitical']Nothing else matters when you have Dr. Mario. Unless Cho Aniki comes out.

I thought de Blob was supposed to be WiiWare, but now it looks like it's getting a full retail release. Maybe I was thinking of World of Goo, which IGN seems to think is releasing next week. I would love it if IGN was right, but I can't believe there are seven WiiWare games releasing next week.

05/19 World of Goo
05/19 Dr. Mario Online Rx
05/19 Gyrostarr
05/19 Major League Eating: The...
05/19 Protöthea
05/19 Star Soldier R
05/19 Toki Tori[/QUOTE]

Seven games seems like a lot, but if that list is right then I'll end up getting World of Goo and Dr. Mario.
 
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