Wii Summer Lineup Revealed

[quote name='spmahn']I think all the systems have a pathetic summer lineup. Unless Mario Party 8 is spectacular, I'm likely going to pass. The reviews for the last few games in the series have all been the same "It's kind of dull by yourself, but it's fun with two or three other people playing along". That's really not much of a statement, you can just as soon say "Watching paint dry is dull, but with a group of friends all watching at the same time, it's a blast!". At the end of the day a mediocre game is a mediocre game by yourself or with a group, whihc is why I'm holding little hope for this one.[/quote]
You're using a loaded statement (because watching paint dry with or without friends is boring - now ecstacy, that's a different story!) as an analogy to Mario Party 8, which effectively makes you come off as a troll.
 
Two points

1. Mario Party is flawed by the number of how many Mario Parties have been released. The Mario Party series has been consistently good game in and game out. It's just that there are too fucking many of them.

2, If you want to scream about a drought, be sure to yell at Sony and Microsoft as well. Microsoft put out a total of two games, both launch titles, before Viva Pinata. That's eleven months between Kameo/Perfect Dark. The PS3 is in the same boat with only Motorstorm and Resistance having come out (though the 1st party download games are much better). Nintendo has supported their system. The third parties haven't supported Nintendo which makes perfect sense if it's not the Wii they're developing for, it's the successor of the Gamecube. Third party support, like the DS, will hit and hit hard soon simply because they make games for what sells.
 
We're still getting a decent amount of games before the summer.

Tomorrow we'll get Mario Party 8, and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon; about two weeks later Brain Age: Wii Degree; followed by Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition and Escape from Bug Island (it might be alright?)

Not to mention Pokemon Battle Revolution on June 25th, Manhunt 2 on July 9th. Also, Guilty Gear: Accent Core will be releasing around the same week as Mario Strikers: Charged.
 
[quote name='yukine']We're still getting a decent amount of games before the summer.

Tomorrow we'll get Mario Party 8, and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon; about two weeks later Brain Age: Wii Degree; followed by Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition and Escape from Bug Island (it might be alright?)

Not to mention Pokemon Battle Revolution on June 25th, Manhunt 2 on July 9th. Also, Guilty Gear: Accent Core will be releasing around the same week as Mario Strikers: Charged.[/quote]

Bug Island is supposed to be really bad, though I like the survival horror type games so I'll try it anyways.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']Bug Island is supposed to be really bad, though I like the survival horror type games so I'll try it anyways.[/quote]
It's apparently so bad that the NA publisher is trying to take the Snakes on a Plane approach to market it here.
 
[quote name='furyk']
2, If you want to scream about a drought, be sure to yell at Sony and Microsoft as well. Microsoft put out a total of two games, both launch titles, before Viva Pinata. That's eleven months between Kameo/Perfect Dark. The PS3 is in the same boat with only Motorstorm and Resistance having come out (though the 1st party download games are much better). Nintendo has supported their system. The third parties haven't supported Nintendo which makes perfect sense if it's not the Wii they're developing for, it's the successor of the Gamecube. Third party support, like the DS, will hit and hit hard soon simply because they make games for what sells.[/quote]
What are the qualifications to get on your list? There's been Resistance, Genji, NBA 07, Untold Legends, F1 Championship Edition, Motorstorm, and MLB 07 came out two weeks ago.
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']Nintendo could have choose a better date.[/QUOTE]

Meh, Botticus and I will play some BW II online while you guys play your little 360 game ;).
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']What are the qualifications to get on your list? There's been Resistance, Genji, NBA 07, Untold Legends, F1 Championship Edition, Motorstorm, and MLB 07 came out two weeks ago.[/quote]Maybe he had the "No Sports Games" and "No Giant Enemy Crabs" filters on?

Man, that crab thing is like the very definition of driving a joke deep, deep into the ground.
 
[quote name='io']Meh, Botticus and I will play some BW II online while you guys play your little 360 game ;).[/quote]
If it gets good reviews I'll be playing it along with you guys since I'm really looking forward to it, although I'm sure I'll also be playing some Halo 3.
 
[quote name='io']Meh, Botticus and I will play some BW II online while you guys play your little 360 game ;).[/quote]Word.

And unless they totally screw up the controls somehow, the game should be fantastic. I thought the only thing missing from the original was multiplayer.
 
[quote name='io']Meh, Botticus and I will play some BW II online while you guys play your little 360 game ;).[/quote]Count me in too as long as the game is good.

Anyone else notice since April we are getting 1 Nintendo published game a month, for almost the rest of the year, this is huge.

April- Super Paper Mairo
May- Mario Party 8
June- Pokemon Battle Revolution
July- Mario Strikers: Charged
August- Metroid Prime 3
Setember- Batallion Wars II
Oct-Dec- Smash Bros, Super Mario Galaxy
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']Count me in too as long as the game is good.

Anyone else notice since April we are getting 1 Nintendo published game a month, for almost the rest of the year, this is huge.
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See you there (BW II).

And as for the one/month thing, EXACTLY. That is just about perfect, and I'm not even interested in every game myself (not getting Pokemon for one). I could see someone who isn't into Mario Party, Strikers and BW being disappointed, but hey, that's just their personal preferences getting in the way. Nintendo is providing the goods, but maybe just not the exact right goods for them. I feel the same way about the 360 myself (though since it has been out 1 1/2 years there are plenty of older games I have gotten cheap - there's nothing I have on my 360 that I would have paid full price for except for Lego Star Wars II since I did get that full price for the GC originally).

These will be my full price purchases for this year (and by "full price" I mean about half retail since I'm using trade-in credit):

:wii:
WarioWare
Sonic Secret Rings
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8
Strikers
Metroid
Battalion Wars 2 (I would be inclined to wait on this one but since other CAGs are getting it I will probably get it too)
Mario Galaxy
SSBB

:360:

Two Worlds (only if it gets fantastic reviews)
Blue Dragon (also dependent on reviews)
Mass Effect (ditto)
Eternal Sonata (possibly)
Beautiful Katamari (my most likely purchase, actually)
Lost Odyssey (again, dependent on reviews)

(that's not to say there aren't plenty of other 360 games from this year I'll get when they are cheap like Lost Planet).

And if I *had* a :ps3: I'd get:
Lair (dependent on reviews)
Beautiful Katamari (I wouldn't buy it for both systems, but to be fair I'll add it here)
Ratchet & Clank

It's funny because I have no qualms preordering most of the Nintendo games as I know they will be quality. I'm hesitant to preorder any of the 360 games because they all have the potential to disappoint. I'm sure R&C will be solid for the PS3 though. But, man, looking at that Nintendo list I'm going to have to obtain some more trade-in credit ;). Right now I have NiGHTS and Mario & Sonic At the Olympics preordered from the Wii trade-in deal at EB. I'll probably switch those to two of the games on my list above. I think those two will have to wait for cheaper pricing - I simply don't have the time for all these games anyway!
 
I did not buy a Wii, and I am really glad I didn't after seeing that list, as there is not one game on there that is a must have for ME personally, and certainly not enough games to warrant me to purchase a 250$ console and accessories. Now keep in mind I have absolutely nothing to whine about as I did not buy one, thankfully.

Frankly, I do not like either of the 3 consoles, so I am biased in the fact that I am choosing to partake in none of them, simply because there is nothing that I personally want to play on them.

What I am looking for in a console:

A huge amount of Japanese type games, preferably tons of RPG's, but of course I am open to other genre's as long as its wacky and fun. Oh and these games have to be released in the USA as well. Give me lots of monster collecting games, please.

Good SINGLE PLAYER experience (give me something I can play by myself not something that requires 4 other human beings in the room with me in order for me to be able to enjoy the game).

Good Online without hackers (yes I know, this will never happen but I can dream can't I, heh)

NO FPS GAMES: I am sorry, I hate FPS games, yes I have tried the genre, it is not for me, you may feel the same way about monster collecting games, which is my favorite genre, so we are even then, ok? I refuse to play any FPS type games. I am not going to waste money on a game I know that I will hate just because everyone else says its the best thing on earth.

Long Games - If I am going to drop 50$ on the latest game, you better be giving me some epic game that has at least 50 hours of gameplay and is endless in potential, not some game that I will become bored with within an hour or 2. Pokemon Pearl cost me 34.99 and I have gotten well over 120 hours out of it, so if I am going to drop 50$ for a game, it better be something amazing. I guarantee you I will have played over 500 hours of Pokemon Pearl before I am done with it, in fact I will never be done, it may take me years to play 500 hours of it but I will do it. I played Sapphire for the max of 999:99 hours, and many more hours beyond that. Obessing over the breeding system in the games will do that to you!

Graphics : I could care less as long as its reasonable, I really don't care if Wii graphics are the same as gamecube etc... its null for me, I just don't care. Whats important to me is if a game has controls that are good and not botched. A game with flawed controls is unplayable imo. Controls and Gameplay are the 2 main factors I look at when buying a game. Usually reviews will tell you if there is a serious control problem with a game, so that is not an issue. I do not want to buy a game that is very buggy and glitchy either.

Gaming hardware and system specs and stuff: Again, I just don't care, if it has games that I will personally like, thats all that matters.

The DS and the GBA fulfill all of these, and thus they are my systems of choice. I especially like that the DS system is actually making an attempt to create monster collecting games beyond pokemon, even if they don't sell that good I don't care, if I want to play them I will.

When I look to buy a game I think will I like this game, not anyone else, will I like this game, is this a game I will play through, if it is not, then I do not buy it no matter what the reviews say, it could be a perfect 10/10 but whats the point if it is not a game that I will enjoy playing? I buy games for myself to play personally, not for others to play, so I should base what I buy on what I like to play.

I am sick of people who say that you NEED to buy the latest gaming system to enjoy games, the truth is you do not. I have a stack of about 59 gamecube games and most of them are unplayed, it would be extremely stupid for me to buy a Wii at this point as it would likely collect a lot of dust.

I also forgot to mention probably the biggest reason why I do not have a Wii: I do not like 3d graphics, call me a freak if you want that is fine by me. I just cannot perceive and see games in 3d like others can or like kids can (kids seem to only like 3d games). I am not sure why this is, maybe I started gaming when I was too old, I started when I was 18 and I am 25 now. I didn't own any video games as a kid because my parents could not afford to buy them for me, but now I have made up for lost time. It seems that whenever I try to play a 3d game I get lost quickly, cannot make that critical jump to the next platform, or it takes me 50 tries to do it, only to get to the next platform and have to do the same thing 50 times again in order to get it. Then I mess up and hit the wrong button on the controller because there are too many buttons (give me A, B and a d-pad thank you!). Angle does not help as if I cannot see the platform and the distance between the 2 platforms that I am supposed to jump my character over to its impossible for me to do it, maybe I just have very very bad timing. Because I get bored with trying to jump from one area to another after 50 tries for each platform I then put the game down, no I don't get frustrated or anything I just put it down and go back to playing something on the DS or GBA. I have only been able to play a couple very easy 3d games such as Harry Potter prisoner of Azkaban and Spyro hero's tail on the gamecube, those are very easy, but I didn't get too far into spyro before I gave up. I couldn't make it through the harry potter game either, but made it quite far in that game.

With certain 3d RPG's like harvest moon which I have tried to play it seems like buildings do nothing but obscure my view of everything, again I cannot see so I don't know where I am going then I end up running around aimlessly, which gets very boring, sigh so that doesn't work for me either. Racing games don't work either because I can never figure out the right time to turn and I always press the joystick too hard and end up crashing into a wall, and if I drive so that I can control the car I end up in last place so whats the point heh.

This is another reason why most of my gamecube games have gone unplayed for very long. I do much much better with 2d type games or pseudo 3d games, which is another reason I choose the GBA and DS as my primary systems. If I purchased an Xbox 360 I would be totally lost, as I wouldn't have a clue, it would be very wasteful for me to buy it. Yes I play many different genre's of games (I do not just play Monster games lol) and I own many systems from the Atari to the Gamecube.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']I did not buy a Wii, and I am really glad I didn't after seeing that list, as there is not one game on there that is a must have for ME personally, and certainly not enough games to warrant me to purchase a 250$ console and accessories. Now keep in mind I have absolutely nothing to whine about as I did not buy one, thankfully.
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Yeah the game drought is killing me. Had mine since launch, and I've not bought a Wii game since Zelda. Only time its gotten dusted off is for some VC games (would play more if they were priced cheaper) and RE4 on the GC.

I do need to play Super Paper Mario though, picking it up in late June/early july after I get through a Ph D exam.

Only game on the summer list for me is Metroid, and that's not an instant must buy as I didnt' care much for Metroid Prime 2.

But I'm sure it will pick up. Can't wait for Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros. I have faith in Nintendo as the DS was slow as hell for me the first year and now is one of my all time most played consoles.

[quote name='SaraAB']
Frankly, I do not like either of the 3 consoles, so I am biased in the fact that I am choosing to partake in none of them, simply because there is nothing that I personally want to play on them.
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I'd have a 360 if it a) was $400 for the premium and b) didn't have such a high failure rate. Several games I really like on it, but I'll just stick to playing them at my friends for now until a price drop and/or those new cooler chips come out. Just can't justify $400 for the console, plus $50 for a warranty plus still probably having to ship it back at some point due to the rampant failures.

[quote name='SaraAB']
I am sick of people who say that you NEED to buy the latest gaming system to enjoy games, the truth is you do not.
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Totally agree. All my gaming since beating Zelda has been PS2, DS, GC and old games on the Wii VC.

I learned my lesson with this terrible game drought on the Wii (and the DS and GC and N64 before it) and finally have wised up and will never buy another console at launch. No point in paying a premium, going through the hassle to score a system etc. when there isn't much to play the first year anyway.

From now on I'll wait for a price drop or two, and catch up on cheap games from the previous gen in the meantime (like I'm currently doing while my launch day purchased Wii gathers dust).

Best of both worlds, no frustration with nothing new to play on a launch console, and save money by waiting for price drop on the console and having tons of games $20 or less to pick up when you buy the system.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']
A huge amount of Japanese type games, preferably tons of RPG's, but of course I am open to other genre's as long as its wacky and fun. Oh and these games have to be released in the USA as well. Give me lots of monster collecting games, please.

Good SINGLE PLAYER experience (give me something I can play by myself not something that requires 4 other human beings in the room with me in order for me to be able to enjoy the game).
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Well, I agree with you there - sounds like you might like the PS2 ;).

I'm hoping with the Wii's critical mass and cheaper development costs many of these types of games will start coming out for the Wii in the upcoming years. But it will take an even larger installed base (though it helps that the Wii is doing so well in Japan) and some time for devs to catch on. In the meantime, such games will continue to come out on the PS2 for a while I'm sure.

As for the 2D/3D thing, well, I'm a bit older than you and played what I wouldn't even call "2D" games when I was a kid - more like 1D :lol:. I'm talking original Atari here... So, anyway, I don't know if it's because I was so deprived, but I loves me a nice, good-looking 3D game (but also enjoy 2D as well). Let's just say that when I first cracked open my GC in 2003 and popped in Rogue Leader I was blown away. This was EXACTLY the game I wanted as a kid when I saw the movies but was instead stuck with blip-blip large square pixel games instead :lol:.
 
[quote name='furyk']2, If you want to scream about a drought, be sure to yell at Sony and Microsoft as well. Microsoft put out a total of two games, both launch titles, before Viva Pinata. That's eleven months between Kameo/Perfect Dark.[/QUOTE]
I think you missed a couple: PGR, Ninety-Nine Nights, and Gears of War all came out before Viva Pinata.

Also, the comparison is kind of irrelevant since the 360 had a pretty steady supply of top-tier third party games during that time, at least compared with the Wii. Microsoft had more room for a lackluster release list because third parties could pick up the slack.

Nintendo didn't have that "luxury", but they're still at fault for not recognizing a drought and handling it better.
 
I was pretty blown away by the GC when I cracked it open too because I don't think I ever saw graphics like that before.

The virtual console is null for me as well because I have a huge collection of past systems, so there is no need to pay twice for the same game (this is another thing I don't like about Nintendo, all the re-releases of games that I already own), especially with the VC prices they are charging. YES I would be interested in the VC if they offered games that I do not already own, especially games from other countries at those prices, then it would be worth it. Also from what I hear the Wii has such a low amount of memory that many people are starting to fill it up with VC games, and of course you will probably have to buy some extra accessory down the road if you want to download more VC games than the console allows which is just another way to get $ out of you. Being able to get games from other countries would be a huge selling point for me so if nintendo knows whats good for them they will allow this in the future. If I want an NES game or a game for another system I will just go and buy the actual cart thank you.

I know I would like the PS2, the problem is I just have so many consoles that I really cannot justify the purchase of another one! Also I am not pleased with the high failure rate of the ps2 so I decided that I am pretty much just going to ignore it. Almost everyone I know over here has had to replace their ps2 AT LEAST once and these are adults that take care of their stuff so even though the console costs 130$ you can pretty much plan on having to buy 2 or more of them just to keep its lifespan. Sure its great if your a kid and you can go to mommy and daddy and say mommy my ps2 broke, ok son I will go out and buy you another one tomorrow, but I do not like the idea of having to shell out more than once for the same piece of hardware just to continue playing the games.

I learned from the DS launch never to get another system at launch, especially a Nintendo one, because they tend to deliver lots of false promises that they never fulfill, yet the fanboys still tend to eat their consoles up like they are going out of style the next min. I seriously hope the market gets overloaded with Wii and then I can pick it up for a cool 100$ and tons of games for 10$ each because thats the price I am willing to pay for it.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']
I learned from the DS launch never to get another system at launch, especially a Nintendo one, because they tend to deliver lots of false promises that they never fulfill, yet the fanboys still tend to eat their consoles up like they are going out of style the next min. I seriously hope the market gets overloaded with Wii and then I can pick it up for a cool 100$ and tons of games for 10$ each because thats the price I am willing to pay for it.[/quote]

Haha, have fun waiting a LONG time for a $100 Wii.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']
Also I am not pleased with the high failure rate of the ps2 so I decided that I am pretty much just going to ignore it. [/QUOTE]

This isn't much of an issue with the slim models. I have an original model that I picked up after a price drop and Final Fantasy X came out and have never had a problem with it.

So at any rate, if you pick up a slim model you shouldnt' have to worry about it too much as they seem to have fixed the issues in that redesign.
 
[quote name='rohlfinator']I think you missed a couple: PGR, Ninety-Nine Nights, and Gears of War all came out before Viva Pinata.

Also, the comparison is kind of irrelevant since the 360 had a pretty steady supply of top-tier third party games during that time, at least compared with the Wii. Microsoft had more room for a lackluster release list because third parties could pick up the slack.

Nintendo didn't have that "luxury", but they're still at fault for not recognizing a drought and handling it better.[/QUOTE]


Yep. But to be fair, at least in my case, I noted that ALL consoles tend to have droughts the first year they are out. And that's why I've finally learned my lesson and will never buy ANY console at launch again. I'll wait until at least first price drops and not have to suffer through droughts, pay premium early adopter prices on the console and couple of games worth playing the first year etc.

Nintendo has just been worse in terms of droughts the past couple of gens as they've not had as much third party support as Sony or MS. With the Wii selling well, that should change this generation though. But unfortunately it doesn't change the post launch drought.

2008 should see a lot of great Wii games though....Just like the second year of the DS.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']Haha, have fun waiting a LONG time for a $100 Wii.[/QUOTE]

He/she clearly said they don't care much about playing the newest games and mainly play old games anyway. So I'm sure he/she will have a lot of fun waiting.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Yep. But to be fair, at least in my case, I noted that ALL consoles tend to have droughts the first year they are out.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Although I've found that a good quality multiplayer game (or two) can go a long way in relieving post-launch droughts. SSBM and Super Monkey Ball kept my brothers and me occupied with the Cube for several months until some quality single-player games started showing up, and I'm sure Halo had a similar effect on the Xbox.

That's my biggest complaint with the Wii so far, to be honest. Wii Sports was great fun, but it didn't really have the depth to stay entertaining for several months.
 
I had no problem waiting for the gamecube to drop to 150$ (bought it with a free gameboy player) so I doubt I will have trouble waiting for a 100-150$ Wii. Its funny because now the Gameboy Player is worth more than the system itself practically lol! Eventually the market will be saturated with them especially considering what sales are like now and I will be able to pick up a VC loaded system with games and accessories for a fraction of the price of the cost of everything new.

I forgot to mention I am also waiting for new Wii colors, I do not like white and refuse to buy a system in white, unless it was very cheap of course.

Until then my growing backlog of 59 gamecube games and around 50 DS games (again, a growing collection) plus my collection of all other consoles will have to hold me till then heh!
 
[quote name='SaraAB']I had no problem waiting for the gamecube to drop to 150$ (bought it with a free gameboy player) so I doubt I will have trouble waiting for a 100-150$ Wii. [/QUOTE]

It's not that it might not happen, it's just that something like this is 1-2 years at the earliest simply given the steam at which the Wii is maintaining.

I don't remember how long it took the GC to drop in price, but it nowhere near sustained the levels the Wii is enjoying in sales, even at 6 months post launch.

That's all.

As for other colors, I really question if they are coming. Other colored Wiimotes? Yes. I have been told this is on the horizon, perhaps by this holiday season.
 
[quote name='SaraAB'] Also from what I hear the Wii has such a low amount of memory that many people are starting to fill it up with VC games, and of course you will probably have to buy some extra accessory down the road if you want to download more VC games than the console allows which is just another way to get $ out of you.
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You can delete any game you aren't currently playing and then re-download it for free (or copy it over to an SD card and then copy it back when you want to play it). Yes, this might get slightly annoying if you are really into the VC, but I don't see it becoming an issue until they start providing DLC for regular games and original downloadable games (that might be a bit bigger than VC games). You can always be a cheapass and just delete stuff though, so this really isn't a problem.

[quote name='SaraAB']
I know I would like the PS2, the problem is I just have so many consoles that I really cannot justify the purchase of another one! Also I am not pleased with the high failure rate of the ps2 so I decided that I am pretty much just going to ignore it. Almost everyone I know over here has had to replace their ps2 AT LEAST once and these are adults that take care of their stuff so even though the console costs 130$ you can pretty much plan on having to buy 2 or more of them just to keep its lifespan. Sure its great if your a kid and you can go to mommy and daddy and say mommy my ps2 broke, ok son I will go out and buy you another one tomorrow, but I do not like the idea of having to shell out more than once for the same piece of hardware just to continue playing the games.
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Wow... I just assumed you had a PS2 and were talking about that since you mentioned liking Japanese RPG's and other quirky titles. I don't see how you could live without a PS2 in that case. And like others have said, the slim models are as solid as the GC in terms of reliability as far as I've heard. I mean, right there you've got your (near) $100 console with tons of $10 games. Buy one now!
 
I've NEVER had to replace a console. (launch PS2 plays just fine)

I gave my 360 to a cousin, hope it doesn't die on him.
I almost expect that one to die at one point.
But I've had very good luck over all with every system.
 
Let's see...

My fat PS2 died after the crappy laser failed. Then I bought a slim that died within a month of purchase. I won't touch a 360 because I don't want to deal with Microsoft and their customer service, and I feel like my Wii is going to melt if I leave it on standby.

Things just ain't made like they used to be...
 
[quote name='dallow']I've NEVER had to replace a console. (launch PS2 plays just fine)

I gave my 360 to a cousin, hope it doesn't die on him.
I almost expect that one to die at one point.
But I've had very good luck over all with every system.[/quote]

I've been the same way. I have never had a console stop working - any console. I own a launch PS2 as well and it has worked great now for over 6 years. I wonder if my PS2 longevity is because I have never once used it as a DVD player.
 
[quote name='lebowsky']I've been the same way. I have never had a console stop working - any console. I own a launch PS2 as well and it has worked great now for over 6 years. I wonder if my PS2 longevity is because I have never once used it as a DVD player.[/quote]

I used mine as a DVD player in the early years.
Actually my PSX did have the laser problem, but turning the system upside down made it work perfectly for years.
Still does last I checked!

EDIT:
Launch PSX :)
 
The only console that has ever quit working for me was the Xbox, the original. It just doesn't turn on anymore.

Meanwhile, I'm still using my NES from when I was a kid... and my launch PS2.
 
Thats what I mean, everyone has different experiences with consoles, I think I have heard just as many stories of the slim PS2 dying as I have of the phat one dying. The last thing I want is to waste 130$ on a potential lemon and there is no way I am buying store warranties or dealing with Sony's customer service just for something that should have worked in the first place. From what I hear microsoft will actually help you out if your having a problem with your Xbox 360, but the ring of death syndrome and constant failures I hear about are enough to turn me off from the console, especially given the price tag. I hear stories of the Gamecube dying as well, but I have never had a problem with mine, but I think it was mostly the early GCN models that had a problem with DRE. At least Nintendo supports their system for a year and 90 days if you register on the website, and their customer service is good, so if you get a lemon and it dies within a month you are not SOL.

Its funny how the older consoles are more reliable, but I guess its that way with most things. I get most of my stuff at yard sales and I would not consider buying a sony console or anything past the original xbox at a yard sale (its just not worth it), in fact the only newer console I would consider buying at a yard sale is the Gamecube.
 
If you're going to be that anal about worrying over consoles breaking, you might as well just quit gaming.

I can see it with the 360 since it's $400 and seems to have the highest failure rate in console history. But worrying over the $130 slim PS2 (which has a much lower failure rate than the phat or 360 from everything I've read) is being a bit too paranoid.

Older consoles were cartridge based and had no moving parts and didn't generate nearly as much heat. As such there was much less to go wrong with them.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']If you're going to be that anal about worrying over consoles breaking, you might as well just quit gaming.

I can see it with the 360 since it's $400 and seems to have the highest failure rate in console history. But worrying over the $130 slim PS2 (which has a much lower failure rate than the phat or 360 from everything I've read) is being a bit too paranoid.
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Exactly... The few stories we've seen in this thread are the first I've heard of slim PS2's dying. Sure, it will happen occasionally. But it is nowhere NEAR the level of the 360. I've heard of launch PS2's dying probably a bit more than they should have, but I really think the slim PS2, at this point, is as solid a piece of electronics as you are going to get. That's not to say there aren't some failed units out there, but it is well within an acceptible failure rate. Same for the GC, Wii (as far as we can tell so far), DS, PSP, etc. I didn't follow the original Xbox too much, but the *only* console with a WAY higher failure rate than is acceptible is the 360. And even knowing that, I just bought one ;).
 
[quote name='io'] I didn't follow the original Xbox too much, but the *only* console with a WAY higher failure rate than is acceptible is the 360. And even knowing that, I just bought one ;).[/QUOTE]

I'm still holding off. $400 is still $100 (really $150-200) more than I'm willing to pay for a console, period. Much less when you have to tack on another $50 for the warranty since it seems near guaranteed to get the 3 red lights at some point.

I'm holding off for at least a price drop, and hopefull a price drop and the new cooler chips which will hopefully reduce the failure rate. I'm not itching for one too bad as I don't have much time for games right now, and a couple of my buddies have 360s and we get together and play fairly often anyway (i.e. played through Gears campaign on casual and hardcore on Co-op).

That and the DS and PS2 are enough to stave me over (even with the terrible Wii gaming drought) until a price drop and/or cooler chips.
 
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