Wii U - General Discussion Thread

Yeah the Wii U has plenty of power for the stylized/cartoony graphics in Nintendo games. The power difference would be readily apparent if we could compare games with realistic graphics on Wii U vs. PS4 or X1. But we probably won't get many chances as third parties aren't going to bother porting next gen stuff given the small Wii U base and more difficulty vs porting PS3/360 games (which they barely bother with now).
 
A lot of games Nintendo has made look beautiful on it. And you have said it your self several times before, it doesnt matter because in the end its how good the game is which Nintendo games are always top  notch.

 
i agree nintendo games do look great on wii u. I will also say that i would not mind seeing a zelda game look like say tomb raider type game and not so cartoon. I think couple nintendo franchises would look great going away from cartoon look of the games.

 
Nintendo did take Zelda away from the cartoon style. It was called Twilight Princess. Skyward Sword also used a realistic style.

Most of Nintendo's cartoony games are related to the Mario and Kirby franchises, everything else is realistic or at least a serious style.
 
Nintendo did take Zelda away from the cartoon style. It was called Twilight Princess. Skyward Sword also used a realistic style.

Most of Nintendo's cartoony games are related to the Mario and Kirby franchises, everything else is realistic or at least a serious style.
skyward sword didnt use a realistic style. what game did you play?

 
Ronimo Games (Awesomenauts, Swords & Soldiers) announced Swords & Soldiers II exclusively for the Wii U eShop.
I heard good things about the first S&S, never got around to playing it. Happy that more third party companies are willing to release Wii U exclusive digital games, always a good sign (assuming it's profitable for them).

 
i agree nintendo games do look great on wii u. I will also say that i would not mind seeing a zelda game look like say tomb raider type game and not so cartoon. I think couple nintendo franchises would look great going away from cartoon look of the games.
Yes, let's make them look the same as everything else. How dull would that be? Speaking solely from a graphics point of view, I'll take a game with a nice, unique art style over one that tries way too hard to look absolutely photo-realistic any day.

 
the wii u is underpowered compared to the other 2 consoles thats just a fact. doesn't mean the console is bad though.
It is obviously underpowered when compared to the XboxOne/PS4 but it seems more than powerful enough to run the Nintendo games we all buy the system for. I mean, Wind Waker and 3D World just can't get any better looking, can they? I know they can but does it matter?

The Wii had some gorgeous games, didn't change the fact it was still an overclocked Gamecube.
The difference, I think, is that the Wii U is finally in HD. There were tons of great looking Wii games all things considered (Mario Galxy, Skyward Sword, Kirby's Epic Yarn, etc.) but since they weren't HD, they looked noticeably inferior to other games of the time. If Nintendo was smart, they wouldn't stop at a WW rerelease - they could rerelease a ton of stuff in HD and sell like crazy. Seems like a no-brainer to me...

 
The talk over power is indeed a silly thing.  We all know it's all about the games right?  I knew a couple of people that went back to their Wii to play Last Story and Xenoblade Chronicles despite the fact that they all had PS3s and X360s at the time.  If only all of Wii's catalog were as strong as those two titles the WiiU's support would probably be stronger at this point.  

 
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It is obviously underpowered when compared to the XboxOne/PS4 but it seems more than powerful enough to run the Nintendo games we all buy the system for. I mean, Wind Waker and 3D World just can't get any better looking, can they? I know they can but does it matter?
correct. well if you know that you shouldn't worry about people calling it underpowered. enjoy it for what it can do with the hardware it has.

 
It is obviously underpowered when compared to the XboxOne/PS4 but it seems more than powerful enough to run the Nintendo games we all buy the system for. I mean, Wind Waker and 3D World just can't get any better looking, can they? I know they can but does it matter?

The difference, I think, is that the Wii U is finally in HD. There were tons of great looking Wii games all things considered (Mario Galxy, Skyward Sword, Kirby's Epic Yarn, etc.) but since they weren't HD, they looked noticeably inferior to other games of the time. If Nintendo was smart, they wouldn't stop at a WW rerelease - they could rerelease a ton of stuff in HD and sell like crazy. Seems like a no-brainer to me...
Honestly it should have been HD back in 2006 so to me its whoopdee doo. And the fact that its powerful than 2006 tech once again its a big whoop, specially since the other consoles still beat it in terms of certain specs when it comes to under the hood.

 
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The talk over power is indeed a silly thing. We all know it's all about the games right? I knew a couple of people that went back to their Wii to play Last Story and Xenoblade Chronicles despite the fact that they all had PS3s and X360s at the time. If only all of Wii's catalog were as strong as those two titles the WiiU's support would probably be stronger at this point.
To hardcore gamers, yes games are what matters most. To an extent anyway. There's tons of discussion and bitching about specs on GAF, but a lot of that is PC gamers whose hobby is as much their gear as it is the games.

But to softcore/mainstream gamers having cutting edge graphics is a big deal as they're mostly playing shooters,sports games, racers etc with realistic graphics.

So Nintendo's sales problem is twofold. One they're underpowered. Two, and partly a result of that, they don't have those big games that the mainstream gamers are playing. Really threefold as they thus have the rep of being kiddy which kills them with that crowd.

I'm not sure how they turn it around. They've been coming increasingly irrelevant with core gamers every generation as the NES was third top seller other than the Wii blip. And it wasn't core gamers that pushed its sales so high.
 
Honestly it should have been HD back in 2006 so to me its whoopdee doo. And the fact that its powerful than 2006 tech once again its a big whoop, specially since the other consoles still beat it in terms of certain specs when it comes to under the hood.
It should be said that when they launched, the power to generate HD graphics was expensive and they would have lost a lot of money on the console. Also, in 2006 very few people had HDTV's. I bought an HDTV then, it was a 32" LCD and it cost $2,000. You can get massive TV's now at a fraction of that cost.

So from the viewpoint of Nintendo, it makes sense that the Wii was SD given the added costs that HD hardware have been added to the console and the limited number of people that had HDTV's then. That said, they should have put out their new console after only 4-5 years. They could have put something out with HD capability much cheaper by 2010-2011 and over half the population had HDTV's. They were milking the Wii profits even as the demand for the console was collapsing. Had they put something else out right away, they may have had a better chance maintaining momentum. Wii only gamers hooking their consoles up to their brand spanking new HDTV's were bound to be disappointed which of course prompted them to go buy one of the other consoles. Once that was done, they saw the kinds of games they had been missing out on and now the Wii U is a hard sell to those people.

It's clear that Nintendo made a lot of mistakes but I don't think the SD Wii in 2006 was one of them.

 
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SD in 2006 was definitely not one of their mistakes. Almost no one here had an HDTV then, you can get 32 inch HDTV's for $200 now so now everyone has one. I didn't get a HDTV until 2011.  But there are still a lot of people who are living off CRT's only here, I know many people who only have CRT's. They just don't care enough to buy another TV.

If they released with HD only in 2006 then no one would have bought it because they would have had to buy an expensive TV just to use it. Like with the Xbox 360 and PS3, some games won't display properly on a SDTV, and in some games the text is barely readable on a SDTV so for that a HDTV is a must.

 
I'm in no way talking about HD from a hdtv setup. I'm just talking about power that can rival the competition at the time ( regardless of whatever excuse people want to come up with) and not just overclock a GC and call it day, then wonder why almost 75% of 3rd party multi platform games skipped the wii because the thing couldn't run them without drastic compromises.

 
I'm in no way talking about HD from a hdtv setup. I'm just talking about power that can rival the competition at the time ( regardless of whatever excuse people want to come up with) and not just overclock a GC and call it day, then wonder why almost 75% of 3rd party multi platform games skipped the wii because the thing couldn't run them without drastic compromises.
If they did that the console wouldn't have cost $250 and they would have sold probably tens of millions less.

 
I like for my fork to poke things and for my spoon to scoop things.  As long as they each perform those tasks adequately, I don't really care how they compare to each other.  Even in the odd case where I have food that can be consumed with either utensil.  Hardware specs don't matter as long as I get fed.

People complaining about the Wii U not matching up to the PS4/Xbone are like people having a fierce debate about why my spoon won't cut the steak they ordered for me after I told them I would be happy with a bowl of soup.

 
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It really does seem like a kind of dumb argument, at this point. If you like PS4, then go buy a PS4. If you like the Xbox line, then go have more of that.

The fact that the PS4 can display individual beard hairs on a baseball player but on a Wii U would have to be 'stubbled out' really doesn't make much difference to me. It's a bit like watching a porn and complaining about not being able to see the individual pubic hairs or wrinkles in the skin because it's not 4K! You're watching a porn, that's what you're there to do.

I could see the difference from Wii (SD) to PS3 (HD) in that you really do get more picture, both in width and in pixels as well as just people having larger screens. At this point, while technically neat that you can see individual beard hairs, it's really not affecting gameplay.

 
I don't think people are complain as much as suggesting it's part of why the Wii U is selling like horseshit.

I don't really agree, as if it was equal powered and was getting equal ports of the big third party games it wouldn't be selling much better.  People who are into CoD and other shooters, Skyrim and other RPGs, Madden and other sports game and so on are pretty much loyal to Sony, MS or PC gaming at this point.  That said, graphics are big in console war crap, and do sway/bias casual/softcore (and even some hardcore gamers--pc gamers are particularly snobbish about console graphics) against weaker platforms.  But I still don't view that as a huge challenge to Nintendo.

Nintendo's problem is they focused on kids and families for too long with their mascot games, Wii Sports, Wii Fit etc., that they lost the majority of the core gaming market to Sony starting with the PS1 and especially PS2, and lot more to MS with the 360 doing so well last gen.  They aren't getting most of those gamers back, and kids/families have mostly moved on to tablets and smartphones which hurts their console sales, and portables with the 3DS having no chance of getting near the DS's lifetime sales.

They misread the market, failed to adapt when gaming moved from a kid dominated hobby to one dominated by 18-35 year old males and have lost the bulk of the mainstream market.

The best they can do really is find a way to make a decent profit selling to the much smaller niche market of kids/familes/long time fans.  The Wii U was misguided as it simply cost too much, and had too little software around launch, to appeal to that market.  Unlike the Wii that was $100 cheaper and had games that generated a ton of buzz like Wii Fit, a launch Zelda (thought it was on GC too) etc.

Barring that, they should just give up on hardware and either partner with Sony or go third party.  Their main franchise games would still big on other platforms as they focus on genres/styles of games that are pretty lacking on PlayStation and Xbox.  I don't see that happening unless they fail another time or too though as they have plenty of cash from the huge success of the Wii U and DS (and the 3DS doing well, if not up to DS standards) to ride out the Wii U bombing.

Myself, I've been pretty let down by both the 3DS and Wii U libraries.  3DS has lot of great games, but not as many as I played on DS--maybe it will catch up, but there's nothing announced I'm remotely interested in.  Wii U I kind of expected to be lackluster since I didn't care much for the Wii library--even though I grew up a Nintendo fan.  I'm honestly at a point that I have a hard time seeing myself buy another Nintendo console or portable.  The games are getting stale, and I'm getting my fill of games in all genres I like on Sony on PS3 and Vita right now--especially with PS+.  So there's a decent change I may just end up trading/selling the 3DS and/or Wii U toward a PS4 later this year if there's not several games announced by E3 that I care about.  As noted, I don't care about things like Yoshi's Island or Kirby on 3DS really as I'm platformered out, and Mario Kart 8 looks great--but I just played 7 on 3DS so the series is stale.  Smash Bros I never really got into as I don't like fighters.  It would be hard to miss the Wii U Zelda if it turns out well though.  And any new Metroid announcements would get me to hold on to the hardware longer.

 
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I am not sure why people have a problem with the console's library at this point, yes it does need more games so people can have more choice, but 2 of the biggest releases, Mario Kart and Smash, will be here before we know it. I can understand having a problem with the launch library or the period up until maybe this past holiday season but its getting more games now. It should then have enough games to warrant a purchase. Can you really not wait until May, I know I can wait, I have plenty of other games to play in the meantime. Do people buy these games, play them and then put them down, immediately expecting another game to come out?  I don't know but just between the 3DS and the Wii U I have more than enough to play and that doesn't even include backwards compatibility. And I am unemployed.. so theoretically I should have infinite time for video games but I still have tons of other things I have to do. If I counted every game in the DS/3DS/Wii and Wii U game libraries that I would like to play I probably wouldn't even have enough time in my life ever to play them all not including upcoming releases.

If people are buying a game, beating it in one day and then putting it down then expecting another to be right there waiting for them, there is just a problem with consumer culture in general and I don't think anyone can do a thing about it. A game like Mario Kart, Smash, Zelda or Pokemon should be savored, and not beaten in one night and put down. Also there are online modes, so there should be more than enough entertainment with those 2 games even for someone with a lot of time on their hands. If there is online play you theoretically can never be bored with a game, as long as other people are online playing and they don't take down the servers. Those 2 games provided they both come out in may should last fans at least through Jan and February without getting bored.  I am still playing through Pokemon, a game I bought on release last October, though I already played all the way through Y version and am about halfway through X. It is now March, and I am still not done with the experience yet, and I likely won't be for another few months. I haven't even finished White and White 2 yet, so I have hundreds of hours of playing to do between those 2 titles alone. I did finish black and black 2 though.

In Wii Fit U I haven't even discovered half of the activities yet, there are so many. This game definitely fixes the problem with the original Wii Fit, as that one was extremely limited in what you could do, I can see people getting bored of a title like that. This one is worth the money people, especially if you have a balance board lying around.

If you buy a game then immediately expect another big game to come out, be prepared to be disappointed by the Wii U and life in general..

Despite this yes I agree launch lineups could be better, there should be at least 5 wanted titles available at launch, so people can choose which ones to buy and more should come out 1-2 months after (not 6 months between launch and the next release). Especially for those paying full price for the console. But unfortunately it does not work that way, for any console.

 
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I don't own anything on Wii U except downloadable games and the download of Wind Waker HD that came with it.  Still waiting for mario world to come down in price.  Mario Kart I'm interested in but will probably wait for a price drop for it as well unless my kid wants it for her birthday.  I'm interested in X.  Those 3 games are the only games I can think of that I want on Wii U besides old nostalgia games that I'd like my kids to try (on the gamepad preferably). 

The thing about Nintendo is that they have a lot of IP's but they don't have a lot of games.  A lot of their big hitters are once a generation games.  If Smash and Mario Kart don't set the world on fire, Nintendo has nothing.

 
Well that's assuming one likes all of nintendos games. I don't like that much other than Mario, Metroid and Zelda personally. I really need to just give those up going forward as once Nintendo lost third party support, Rare as second party etc their consoles just haven't had enough exclusives I personally want to play to really justify the purchase.

The handhelds are mostly fine, though I've exhausted what I want to play on 3DS currently. But I still feel I got my money's worth. With Wii U I'm starting to doubt that will end up the case and am regretting the purchase like I did the Wii. But that's my own fault for buying out of nostalgia rather than having enough games I truly want to play to warrant the purchase.
 
Yeah it ended up not being a big loss since so much talent left and their game quality dropped off.

But the N64 was the las Nintendo console I really loved as you had Rare putting out stuff like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark to add some variety to the lineup.

Nintendo desperately needs a great western developer or two to add variety to their exclusives if they want their sales with core gamers to ever improve.
 
GameCube had better support, but lacked FPS/TPS and WRPGs.  Shooters probably because the controller wasn't great for them with that lousy c-stick.

The GC definitely struggled in sales, topping out at around 22 million.  But the Wii U is still under 6 million sold, and looking unlikely to make 10 million, so its definitely possible that the GC being more powerful and having more varied software with some big third party exclusives like Resident Evil 4 helped a lot.  Or it could just be the continued dramatic decline in sales generation to generation that Nintendo has seen every time since NES with the exception of the Wii.

They really killed themselves as a dominate player in the core gaming market when they let the partnership with Sony on the CD add-on for the SNES fail apart and turn into the Playstation. Then compounded that by going with carts, charging high licensing fees and alienating publishers with the N64.  They've just never been able to bounce back from that, and also failed to adapt to the market shifting from games like Mario and Sonic, to shooters, sports sims etc.--as well as missing the boat on online gaming.

 
Yeah, even if they had the same games as other consoles I can't see anyone buying this over one of the others. More people would buy it, but it still wouldn't be the first choice and wouldn't sell as much as the other guys. The real problem is their lack of online gaming, if the Wii U launched with a proper account system, converted the whole Wii VC into Wii U versions and had a decent online system even if we had to pay for it like the other consoles then perhaps they might have a chance. It looks like we will have to wait another gen, if there is one with Nintendo, for the proper online system. This means they have taken 2-3 gens to accomplish what their competitors did with the first gen. They also shot themselves in the foot by targeting the casuals with the Wii, now the casuals have moved onto other products, which is exactly what myself and many others predicted would happen, putting the Wii system in the category of fad products. This only produced short term success. This is also another reason why Nintendo shouldn't make games for phones, it will only result in short term success, and might kill any chance they have left of surviving in a crowded marketplace.

Another problem here is market saturation, everyone has a console now, so how many more can actually sell before people get sick of buying the same thing over and over? I know I am getting to the point where my TV stand is full and all of my inputs are used up, and I am sure many others have the same problem. Consumers are also moving more towards handheld and mobile devices, which means consumers are now spending more time with their phones or tablets, meaning that there is less time for gaming. There is only so much time in a day. Now this doesn't mean consumers are quitting gaming altogether, they are just spending a little less time with it than they did in the PS2 and Xbox generation.

 
So far Wind Waker, SM3DW, NSMBU+NSLU, Pikmin 3, DKCTF and Nintendoland have made the WiiU a success to me even if I never buy another game for it.  My family and I are having so much fun.  A new Zelda and Metroid (please) will be icing on the cake.  I'm not really looking forward to Mario Kart 8 or SSB this year though since I'm not a big fan of either of those franchises... but maybe my kids will like them so who knows.

 
For me so far I've only got:

NSMBU & NSLU (beat the main game new NSMBU, but gave up unlocking the extra worlds and haven't touched NSLU)

Mario 3D World (beat the main game getting every star and stamp in the levels, need to try to get through the extra worlds)

Rayman Legends (haven't played it yet, butnot exlusive anyway).

I'm curious to try out Pikmin 3 at some point--wish there was a demo as I've never played a game in the series.  I'm mixed on DKCTF as I'm platformed out at the moment and don't tend to have patience for the harder ones.  I may get Mario Kart 8, but I just got MK7 on 3DS recently.  Smash Bros I have no interest in really.  Wind Waker HD I may grab someday, but I'm not that stoked to replay it really, and just played OoT and ALBW on 3DS so I'm kind of over Zelda for a bit.

A new Metroid would of course be amazing, and that's a big reason I'm holding on to my 3DS and Wii U until at least after E3.  If a Metroid or some other games I'm intersted in don't get announced then, I'll like trade/sell at least one of the Nintendo platforms.  3DS seems more likely to go since it's later in life and already gotten installments of all the big franchises sans Metroid.  And now that I have a Vita I have less need for it as it's hard to find time to game on two portables.

 
I had already played Wind Waker several times on the Gamecube and this version blows it out of the water.  It is a joy to play in HD and 16:9 aspect ratio.  The tweaks they made to the game are awesome too.  This is now my favorite 3D Zelda game.

Pikmin 3 (the whole series, actually) is really great.  I do not like real-time strategy games at all but for some reason this game has just the right amount of charm and challenge.

Donkey Kong is HARD.  I love a good challenge but this game really tests my patience sometimes.  There is absolutely zero chance of me getting to 100% (let alone 200%).  The puzzle pieces and K-O-N-G letters are doable but the speed runs are nuts - I'm barely getting bronze on any of them and unless I'm missing something, gold seems just about impossible on many of the levels.  For some reason I'm having a lot of fun with this game though... even though I hate it.  I mean love it.  No, I hate it.  Maybe.

 
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I don't get all the Nintendo haters.... Personally I like our Wii U. I know it hasn't sold well but that doesn't mean the company is going to fold. Remember, the Wii console sold so well (yes, by catering to casual gamers) it left them with a substantial cash reserve. Even if the Wii U continues to be a stinker (which may change 12 months from now), Nintendo has plenty of capital to invest in next generation gaming. And I believe the DS lineup is still selling pretty well too. One thing I will agree with: they CANNOT get it together when it comes to online gaming, and I think that's been the biggest problem for the Wii U so far.

Anywho, off the soapbox. For those that have the Wii Fit U, could you possibly answer a question for me? I workout regularly AT&T the gym but the biometric data scanners on the exercise bikes and the elliptical machines kinda stink. Could I use the Wii Fit Meter for these specific exercises? Will it measure calories burned while biking, weightlifting, etc? Sorry, but I tried to search via Google but couldn't find answers.
 
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Anywho, off the soapbox. For those that have the Wii Fit U, could you possibly answer a question for me? I workout regularly AT&T the gym but the biometric data scanners on the exercise bikes and the elliptical machines kinda stink. Could I use the Wii Fit Meter for these specific exercises? Will it measure calories burned while biking, weightlifting, etc? Sorry, but I tried to search via Google but couldn't find answers.
I've been using my meter daily for about a week or two. I really don't think it does biometric stuff. It is essentially a pedometer. I like syncing it up to the board every few days and seeing how many miles I've walked. You can take walking and climbing tours of various cities/monuments/mountains and the Wii Fit meter progress is translated to those tours. When you complete them you unlock T-shirts and stuff (I have a Statue of Liberty one for climbing that and am currently working on a London walking tour). I am not even really exercising much but I did have to run a basketball practice and scrimmage with the kids since we only had 9 on the team. After that and a few days of just normal household stuff I logged in 9 miles! It is just kind of cool to see how many steps you take in a normal (or abnormal) day. Of course the distance/calorie count is an estimate since I think all it logs is steps and guesses the rest based on your Mii profile (height/weight). It does show temperature so maybe it has some way of sensing your body temp rise with activity? Not sure about that though. I always just clip it to my pocket and the temp is always in the 70's. So it definitely isn't reading body temp and there is no heart rate sensor as far as I can tell. Somehow it is measuring elevation change though - so it might be a little more sophisticated than a simple pedometer.

I'll have to try wearing it when I use my exercise bike (which, unfortunately, is not often enough). I would assume having it on your hip would register something when using the bike. Maybe I'll try that this weekend and I'll let you know what it tells me in comparison with the estimated mileage the bike reports.

It is a neat little device to use in conjunction with the board and Wii Fit U (especially since buying one for $10 from Fry's unlocked the full game for me) but I don't think it is what you are looking for. Note that you can manually enter additional exercise in Wii Fit U if you want to use it to keep track of everything.

At first I was worried it only logged for one day at a time - the display on the device resets every day at least. But when you sync up to the board it reports all the days since you last synced. I'm sure there's some limit if you wait weeks or months. I haven't done it in a week or so, so tonight I'll see if it logs everything for that time frame at least.
 
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I had already played Wind Waker several times on the Gamecube and this version blows it out of the water. It is a joy to play in HD and 16:9 aspect ratio. The tweaks they made to the game are awesome too. This is now my favorite 3D Zelda game.
I couldn't speak highly enough of the gameplay tweaks in that game. They did great.

 
Trolls, go away. You are ruining this thread or ruined it. I still absolutely love my GameCube. I think it looks gorgeous with component cables. I still play a lot of F-Zero and Mario Golf. I don't care what the resolution is. It's fun. Who cares.

 
[quote name="Action!" post="11591622" timestamp="1394244234"]I couldn't speak highly enough of the gameplay tweaks in that game. They did great.[/quote]

It is amazing even though the two dungeons they cut would have made it perfect (for the power bracelets and the iron boots) but I can live with what we got. It's really like you are playing a cartoon. Plus, I like just about anything 10X more on my brand new 65" plasma!
 
I don't think many hate on Nintendo in this thread. I've been a Nintendo fan for 30 years. I just regret buying the Wii U last fall as the games just aren't there for me yet to really justify it. I should have just waited longer, and that's on me. Otherwise, my posts are just concern over how they turn it around and get sales up the next go around as I don't want to see them keep failing at hardware and eventually going under. They need to figure out a way to sell more consoles or switch to focusing on just making game.
 
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Speaking for myself (obviously), I was a huge Nintendo fan until the Wii. I had the NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube. Loved them all.

I don't think the problem was the Wii itself, though I honestly don't like motion control gaming. It had plenty of great games to be played with a regular controller.

My issue was that I was getting more into shooters. And for console shooters, the Xbox was the system to have. I played over 5,000 games of Halo 2 and Halo 3.

But I'm tired of shooters. Seems like Microsoft and Sony are so focused on shooters, racers and action-adventure. I find myself yearning for the colorful platformers and games like Mario Kart with my friends. So I plan on getting a Wii U soon and I'm excited to jump back into the Nintendo camp. I'm glad they've stuck with their family-oriented style and I'm also glad they've improved their online gaming.

 
Yeah you generally buy consoles for your interests. 

I'm into platformers, adventure games, and fun party games so Nintendo games and consoles appeal to my interests a little more than Sony and a lot more than Microsoft. 

I'm the same as you.  I'm jaded with the FPS genre, cinematic dark grungy style games, and quick time event fests.  I'm having a ton of fun with the Wii U, although I admit I love Pikmin, Zelda, and Mario.  Really cannot wait for Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros this year, my most anticipated games by far.  On the contrast I'm not really compelled to play my recently purchased PS4 (purchased at a huge discount) and it probably won't see much mileage until later this year.

This next generation is starting to pick up so hopefully we will see fresh new ideas for all 3 consoles within the next year or so. E3 should be fun this year. 

 
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Yeah you generally buy consoles for your interests.

I'm into platformers, adventure games, and fun party games so Nintendo games and consoles appeal to my interests a little more than Sony and a lot more than Microsoft.

I'm the same as you. I'm jaded with the FPS genre, cinematic dark grungy style games, and quick time event fests. I'm having a ton of fun with the Wii U, although I admit I love Pikmin, Zelda, and Mario. Really cannot wait for Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros this year, my most anticipated games by far. On the contrast I'm not really compelled to play my recently purchased PS4 (purchased at a huge discount) and it probably won't see much mileage until later this year.

This next generation is starting to pick up so hopefully we will see fresh new ideas for all 3 consoles within the next year or so. E3 should be fun this year.
Huh? Who puts out adventure games these days besides TaleTell Games? As far as I know, they aren't putting anything out on Wii U.

 
I don't think many hate on Nintendo in this thread. I've been a Nintendo fan for 30 years. I just regret buying the Wii U last fall as the games just aren't there for me yet to really justify it. I should have just waited longer, and that's on me. Otherwise, my posts are just concern over how they turn it around and get sales up the next go around as I don't want to see them keep failing at hardware and eventually going under. They need to figure out a way to sell more consoles or switch to focusing on just making game.
Nintendo NES was my first console growing up... Received one for my eighth birthday in 1988 (dating myself I know). This year I bought my eight year old his first system for his birthday... The Wii U. So fandom runs deep in our house too. I think there's enough games out now to keep us interested for months. You're right though, they need to find a way to sell more consoles. The more consoles sold, the longer and more robust the lifecycle of the Wii U will be. Personally I'm hoping to see quite a few more games released on the virtual console (N64 games and GameCube games I'm looking at chu!). Right now though they've pigeonholed themselves into 1st party games making or breaking this generation, which makes me nervous. Will Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros, and a possible new Zelda be enough? And why have they taken almost two years since system launch? It may have helped having more 1st party games available at launch, but that's just speculation.

Io, thanks for the info. I did not have Wii Fit, so for me to jump on board, it would be the $90 retail for the wii u fit game, board, and fit meter. That's kind of a steep investment not knowing if the technology will work for my lifestyle. I really appreciate any insight you can (and have) provided!
 
So far Wind Waker, SM3DW, NSMBU+NSLU, Pikmin 3, DKCTF and Nintendoland have made the WiiU a success to me even if I never buy another game for it. My family and I are having so much fun. A new Zelda and Metroid (please) will be icing on the cake. I'm not really looking forward to Mario Kart 8 or SSB this year though since I'm not a big fan of either of those franchises... but maybe my kids will like them so who knows.
On the horizon it looks like there's Mario Kart + Super Smash Bros and, as far as I can tell, it's dry after that. Someone mentioned a Zelda game but then that's it. It's Barbie's Priszonerz, Ponyz, Whorez, and stupid crap at Target after that.

I think that's an overall problem with the industry. Some companies make great looking games. Other companies make the crap games. It's fairly rare when someone just makes a great game (which is why I choose Wii U this time around - their games are fun - I still go back and play old NES/SNES/N64 games).

It's a lot like the movie industry. Some movies are visually spectacular (Avatar). There's plenty of day-to-day crap movies out there. It's fairly rare when you get a movie that you thoroughly enjoyed and would go back and watch over and over (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Wizard of Oz, Disney animated movies, a few musicals, maybe..).

 
On the horizon it looks like there's Mario Kart + Super Smash Bros and, as far as I can tell, it's dry after that. Someone mentioned a Zelda game but then that's it. It's Barbie's Priszonerz, Ponyz, Whorez, and stupid crap at Target after that.

I think that's an overall problem with the industry. Some companies make great looking games. Other companies make the crap games. It's fairly rare when someone just makes a great game (which is why I choose Wii U this time around - their games are fun - I still go back and play old NES/SNES/N64 games).

It's a lot like the movie industry. Some movies are visually spectacular (Avatar). There's plenty of day-to-day crap movies out there. It's fairly rare when you get a movie that you thoroughly enjoyed and would go back and watch over and over (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Wizard of Oz, Disney animated movies, a few musicals, maybe..).
Haha...your analogies made me laugh. I think everyone knows that there's a lot of shovelware. There's actually less on HD consoles because it's more expensive to make compared to SD consoles. Also, I agree that Avatar looked great but the story was godawful been there done that cliche. It was about as cliched as a protagonist with amnesia in a JRPG.

 
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