WWE Smackdown vs Raw

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Anyone get the game yet? I've been hearing that the reviews have been a little lower compared to the past SD games. Cant wait to pick up my copy tomorrow after school.
 
I won't pick it up at all. Here's why.. IGN put this in their review, it took me a full readthrough to notice the faults..

Online (Dis) Connection
You see, as cool as it may have sounded to get the online feature that I always wanted, it didn't quite turn out the way I had hoped. Because unlike most of today's other prominent sports titles, be they Madden, NBA Live, or what have you, WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW doesn't offer any type of supplementary online content whatsoever. So while most competitive broadband users out there are used to such features as Internet gaming leagues, automatic ranking systems, downloadable content, and multiplayer support beyond just two players, SmackDown offers none of that -- providing instead, a simplistic two-prong option for either wrestling in a singles head-to-head match or a females-only bra and panties bout.

Regardless of what kind of match they choose to play, however, gamers will never be able to track their win/loss records, defend created belts online, wrestle in tag-team and specialty matches, or even protect their pseudo-identities -- as the GameSpy-powered Interface doesn't allow players to save permanent IDs sever-side. Perhaps most disappointing of all, though, is the fact the broadband-only setup doesn't support USB headsets, only keyboards while in the lobby area.

Where are Eugene, and Gail Kim, and Maven? Why can't we play as Rob Conway, Sylvain Grenier, or Tyson Tomko? And why have Billy Kidman, Funaki, and Johnny Stamboli been overlooked for the second year in a row?


This one right here is what killed my decision


Unfortunately for fans that are looking for additional feature upgrades, SmackDown! vs. RAW just doesn't have them. In fact, in many respects the game has taken a few steps southward. Backstage arenas, for example, have been removed entirely with the exception of a single large environment; and while that solo atmosphere is still highly interactive with plenty of different contact points, it provides nowhere near as much fun as the various backstage levels from Here Comes the Pain did. Additionally, THQ has removed the Cruiserweight, Women's, World Tag Team, and WWE Tag Team championships from career mode altogether (only the WWE, World, Intercontinental, and U.S. titles remain), and the cool stat tracking feature I thought was so helpful last year is gone as well.

career mode seems a lot more linear than it was last year

every wrestler but two (John Cena and a legend) were stripped of their alternate attires

To that, I say..


Only belts that are in season are WWE, World, IC and US title? No alternate costumes? No backstage area? No branching storymode? No tag team online play? fuck this game.
 
[quote name='Scorch']I won't pick it up at all. Here's why.. IGN put this in their review, it took me a full readthrough to notice the faults..

Online (Dis) Connection
You see, as cool as it may have sounded to get the online feature that I always wanted, it didn't quite turn out the way I had hoped. Because unlike most of today's other prominent sports titles, be they Madden, NBA Live, or what have you, WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW doesn't offer any type of supplementary online content whatsoever. So while most competitive broadband users out there are used to such features as Internet gaming leagues, automatic ranking systems, downloadable content, and multiplayer support beyond just two players, SmackDown offers none of that -- providing instead, a simplistic two-prong option for either wrestling in a singles head-to-head match or a females-only bra and panties bout.

Regardless of what kind of match they choose to play, however, gamers will never be able to track their win/loss records, defend created belts online, wrestle in tag-team and specialty matches, or even protect their pseudo-identities -- as the GameSpy-powered Interface doesn't allow players to save permanent IDs sever-side. Perhaps most disappointing of all, though, is the fact the broadband-only setup doesn't support USB headsets, only keyboards while in the lobby area.

Where are Eugene, and Gail Kim, and Maven? Why can't we play as Rob Conway, Sylvain Grenier, or Tyson Tomko? And why have Billy Kidman, Funaki, and Johnny Stamboli been overlooked for the second year in a row?


This one right here is what killed my decision


Unfortunately for fans that are looking for additional feature upgrades, SmackDown! vs. RAW just doesn't have them. In fact, in many respects the game has taken a few steps southward. Backstage arenas, for example, have been removed entirely with the exception of a single large environment; and while that solo atmosphere is still highly interactive with plenty of different contact points, it provides nowhere near as much fun as the various backstage levels from Here Comes the Pain did. Additionally, THQ has removed the Cruiserweight, Women's, World Tag Team, and WWE Tag Team championships from career mode altogether (only the WWE, World, Intercontinental, and U.S. titles remain), and the cool stat tracking feature I thought was so helpful last year is gone as well.

career mode seems a lot more linear than it was last year

every wrestler but two (John Cena and a legend) were stripped of their alternate attires

To that, I say..


Only belts that are in season are WWE, World, IC and US title? No alternate costumes? No backstage area? No branching storymode? No tag team online play? shaq-fu this game.[/quote]\

exactly...it would have been better even if they kept the same stuff, just updated the graphics and roster and just worked on the online component....
 
If you listen to reviews, then you shouldn't be playing any games. Basically, the review is from one guy, how can you base your decision on some guy who reviews games? It should be YOU who decides the outcome of buying it. I had my doubts a bit, but I then realized, "hey, why not try it myself instead of just being sucked into the reviews". Of course, the game is fun with or without online use. If you have alot of wrestling fans as friends, then it really gets fun making belts, and like today, GCW (my fed), JWF (my friends fed) had a war with our 4 superstars we made each. The game is good, trust me. It's really good if you make more superstars.
 
The issues I'm focused on aren't opinionated, though. No alternate costumes, no tag straps in season, online play is one vs one with no stat tracking..
 
It doesn't seem like they changed too much for SVR. It feels like im playing HCTP with updated graphics. I haven't had a chance to CAW yet (which is where most of time is spent in wrestling games). Even though the game could've been a lot better, IMO, I will still have fun using CAW's and playing with other people.

I guess I am just spoiled by def jam. Both are great games, but I think SVR will have more replay value.
 
can you play this game with dial up? I heard that some games that say broadband only can still be played online with 56k.
 
[quote name='davidflecha17']can you play this game with dial up? I heard that some games that say broadband only can still be played online with 56k.[/quote]

Broadband Only.
 
Austin, Goldberg, Hogan, Steiner, Lesnar, and many others aren't in it. I know the reason for this is because they are no longer in the WWE but still, it made the last game fun. Also, the roster isn't entirely accurate to the time of game development. The friggin Tag Team champs aren't in it (La Resistance)... I haven't played it, might be good...
 
[quote name='phrostbyte']Austin, Goldberg, Hogan, Steiner, Lesnar, and many others aren't in it. I know the reason for this is because they are no longer in the WWE but still, it made the last game fun. Also, the roster isn't entirely accurate to the time of game development. The friggin Tag Team champs aren't in it (La Resistance)... I haven't played it, might be good...[/quote]

It's excellent. Gameplay is great. Bret Hart makes up for all five of those guys.
 
yea its ok...graphics are better. IMO i love all wrestling games but this is like the madden of wrestling..every year more of the same....but still its kool..good story. its hard to top the leap that here comes the pain did to shut your mouth.

if anyone wants to play pm or something
 
yea its not the same without lesnar and goldberg :(

they took the honor of me wooping everyone with goldberg online..its gonna be hard for them to top last years roster though...

i think raw 2 had the best roster of any game though
 
It's ok. Not alot of updates and doesn't seem as fresh as HCTP was. Outside of online and Bret Hart nothing has really swooned me. Hopefully the next version of Smackdown has a deeper online counterpart, more wrestlers and a better story mode. I would give it a low 8 where as HTCP was probably the most improved/best Smackdown to date.
 
I love it. I mean yeah, HCTP was probably better, but this one just flows a lot more smoothly. I'll play against you guyver, just name the time and place.

I'm usually Bret Hart. I had a match against Batista and survived three batista bombs and he survived two sharpshooters.. lasted 15 minutes and ended with me getting the win after he got frustrated and hit me with a chair.

Just had a GREAT 10 minute match against this guy named Delriach. He was Angle and I was Hart.. GREAT technical match, I'd love to see that match in real life.. He finally got me with the ankle lock..
 
Hah, that was a quick match, I beat the crap out of you.

Note: I made this post before I actually had the match with him :p
 
Yeah, amateur, forgot to mention that. It has 14/20 now.

Every time I try to join your game, it says "connection lost".
 
Doubtful. Seems like the internal firewalls in our router were clashing.

On a side note, I'm impressed with how updated this game is. They've even got Orton's new theme and him seperated from Evolution. Normally games are several (4+) months behind.. but this one's pretty updated.
 
Damn, I can't wait to get this! The only thing holding me back is that the damn tiny PS2's haven't come back in stock yet (traded my old one for $100). I'll be up for some games with anyone here as soon as I get it.

btw Scorch, what made you change your tune on the game? I'm curious, you turned pretty hard there. Anything specific, or did the gameplay just generally kick ass?
 
Got the game yesterday and have been playing it nonstop. I also got Killzone and havent even touched it yet. The challenges give a lot of replay value to the game and they're pretty fun and challenging at the same time.

I'm having a blast so far, I'd give it a 8.5/10.
 
is funner online then playing it solo.. I got One up for sale brand new if anyone wants it (40 shipped) I got it as a gift but instead of opening it up i rented the game to see if i like it before opening. Its a good game but dont really have much time to play it
 
well i havent even played online yet cuz i think its pretty barebones...i just like the season and stuff. let mw know if you wanna try again scorch. we should have a cag tourney or ppv lol
 
my friend rented it. He is supposed to bring it over along with his memory card.

I told him the only way I would let him play online is if he came over here with Bret Hart unlocked :lol:
 
[quote name='Scorch']The issues I'm focused on aren't opinionated, though. No alternate costumes, no tag straps in season, online play is one vs one with no stat tracking..[/quote]

Well there are alternate costumes, Rock Evolution, Shawn Micheals and Randy Orton each have alternates.

Personally, I prefer HCTP but this comes in at a close second as greatest wrestling game to date.
 
yea but after playing dor its hard for to play this game. yea the story and online are the strong point of this game but then engine in dor is just too much fun
 
Yooo, finally got my new PS2. And I picked up SvR on my way home, so I am ready to go! If anyone is up for some games just let me know. On the PS2 server my name is Busta_Uppa.
 
Well since they are based on the same engine, I would go for Smackdown. As I understand, the gameplay of RR is kind of like playing "Smackdown Lite"... simplified game mechanics (only one button to counter strikes and grapples, for example), and FAR less match modes.

But then again, I'm the kind of sicko who loves DOA Beach Volleyball, so I'll probably end up getting Roses anyway when the price drops :p
 
[quote name='JSweeney']So which would be the better purchase...
this or Rumble Roses?[/quote]

I have not played Rumble Roses, but if it is Smackdown " light " like I read over in the IGN review I would pass. Raw vs. Smackdown added a lot more content then they cut and the game is flat out amazing. Getting to hear the legends like the Legion of Doom and Bret Hart come out to their music is awesome, as is the fact that the characters actually have spoken dialogue in story mode.

If it was not for me being broke I would def. pick up SD vs. RAW (although my hands probably thank me as I have blisters from rapidly pressing buttons to apply the Sharpshooter on my friend)
 
[quote name='BustaUppa']LOL... the Garrison Cade loading screen just came on. That cracked me up.[/quote]

I saw that earlier today and was laughing about it
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='JSweeney']So which would be the better purchase...
this or Rumble Roses?[/quote]

I have not played Rumble Roses, but if it is Smackdown " light " like I read over in the IGN review I would pass. Raw vs. Smackdown added a lot more content then they cut and the game is flat out amazing. Getting to hear the legends like the Legion of Doom and Bret Hart come out to their music is awesome, as is the fact that the characters actually have spoken dialogue in story mode.

If it was not for me being broke I would def. pick up SD vs. RAW (although my hands probably thank me as I have blisters from rapidly pressing buttons to apply the Sharpshooter on my friend)[/quote]

To me, if the Road Warriors don't come out to Iron Man, it's not "their" music, but I'm just old-school like that.

I personally like SD vs. Raw and Rumble Roses. I reviewed both of them. They're kind of different games, so it's hard to pick one over the other. I'd say SmackDown is a better game, but Rumble has its own merits (like HOT females). Neither blew my mind, though.
 
[quote name='ViolentLee'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='JSweeney']So which would be the better purchase...
this or Rumble Roses?[/quote]

I have not played Rumble Roses, but if it is Smackdown " light " like I read over in the IGN review I would pass. Raw vs. Smackdown added a lot more content then they cut and the game is flat out amazing. Getting to hear the legends like the Legion of Doom and Bret Hart come out to their music is awesome, as is the fact that the characters actually have spoken dialogue in story mode.

If it was not for me being broke I would def. pick up SD vs. RAW (although my hands probably thank me as I have blisters from rapidly pressing buttons to apply the Sharpshooter on my friend)[/quote]

To me, if the Road Warriors don't come out to Iron Man, it's not "their" music, but I'm just old-school like that.

I personally like SD vs. Raw and Rumble Roses. I reviewed both of them. They're kind of different games, so it's hard to pick one over the other. I'd say SmackDown is a better game, but Rumble has its own merits (like HOT females). Neither blew my mind, though.[/quote]

I understand what you mean, but I am just glad that Legends have any music at all. The whole mini ring thing in HCTP was lame.

I hope we eventually get a WWE Legends game, as that would be well worth the price of admission
 
That's essentially what the Showdown game is. I like the Showdown game.

Anyone wanna try Smackdown vs. Raw out sometime? I've played two online matches.. I won one and lost another. I was Hart, he was Batista.. I took him to the limit and he hit me with a chair after 20 minutes or so. Then I had a GREAT match with Hart vs. Angle.. Angle wore me down.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']hey busta u play smack online?

i think i played u in mk the 1st day i got it[/quote]

Yes, and yes.

I'm going online right now in Smackdown, are you on? It'll be my first time!
 
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