X-Men Origins: Wolverine - May 1, 2009

[quote name='DarkNessBear']:pray:
Will.i.am says Hi...[/quote]

It makes me if Marvel put him in the movie just for the hell of it. His character had absolutely no real point in the movie besides "I know someone that might know something".

IIRC, isn't Agent Zero called Maverick in the comics(& he wasn't asian too, right)? Also one thing I didn't even catch until reading the reviews was that Wolverine's girlfriend was Silverfox. Throughout the whole movie, I don't think they even mentioned her name.

I see the Deadpool ending was mentioned, although it was the Wolverine one that I saw. Since it hasn't been mentioned, it
shows Wolverine drinking at a bar in Japan. The bartender asks if he is drinking to forget. Wolverine replies in Japanese that he's actually drinking to remember.
 
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[quote name='tangytangerine']Since it hasn't been mentioned, it
shows Wolverine drinking at a bar in Japan. The bartender asks if he is drinking to forget. Wolverine replies in Japanese that he's actually drinking to remember.
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whoknows posted it a few posts back.. post #128
 
Can i just say that it wasn't terrible...
I did throw up in my mouth a little bit at my poor beloved Deadpool.
i can forgive the teleportation being a mutant power (that actually seems to be a logical jump for the character), I can even forgive the "swords" ugh, but making him mute AND shoot beams from his eyes?!?!!? WTF?!?!?! I hate you Marvel.
 
[quote name='Deadpool']Can i just say that it wasn't terrible...
I did throw up in my mouth a little bit at my poor beloved Deadpool.
i can forgive the teleportation being a mutant power (that actually seems to be a logical jump for the character), I can even forgive the "swords" ugh, but making him mute AND shoot beams from his eyes?!?!!? WTF?!?!?! I hate you Marvel.
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:lol:

Hehe, what about. "DECAPITATE"! Haha, so dumb. The movie was just filled with dumb.
 
At least this steaming pile of turd gave birth to the greatest Wolverine game I have ever played...also the game story is a lot better so far.
 
Just got back -- I enjoyed it quite a bit. The problems for me, as most people have said, are
Ryan Reynolds totally getting the shaft -- Deadpool needs his own movie
and
Wolverine's low kill count
.

Also, I got the ending with
Wolverine in the bar. What I didn't see mentioned is the fact that it appeared to be in Japan, which could be a setup for a possible sequel. Interviews with Hugh Jackman have shown him talking about how he likes that part of Logan's history.
 
Can someone explain how you can enjoy Wolverine but not X3? (Not saying I liked X3) They were both pretty much the same to me, but X3 had a little bit more cheesy romance (but not by much...). Explain!
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Can someone explain how you can enjoy Wolverine but not X3? (Not saying I liked X3) They were both pretty much the same to me, but X3 had a little bit more cheesy romance (but not by much...). Explain![/QUOTE]

The entire Phoenix storyline was relegated to a crappy side story. That's enough for me.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Linkin, have you even seen the movie yet? Or are you just basing your opinion on everyone else's?[/quote]

Yup. Hated it.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Can someone explain how you can enjoy Wolverine but not X3? (Not saying I liked X3) They were both pretty much the same to me, but X3 had a little bit more cheesy romance (but not by much...). Explain![/quote]
In X3's defense, what they did to Deadpool was just criminal. Like I never thought Marvel was THAT stupid in their treatment of his character. It hurts so much because with those few scenes WITH Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, you get a glimpse of how great it could've been if they went full on Merc with a Mouth. Instead it was
a GODDAMN CYBORG WITH OPTIC BLASTS, TELEPORTATION, SWORDS IN HIS ARMS AND HIS MOUTH SEWN SHUT!
The EXACT opposite of what his character was or should've been and all I can do is question why. There is NO reason why they needed to do this. They could've made a great character into a spin off movie that could work as an action-comedy and given Marvel more money, but No. Instead if they somehow do make it work, they'll think of it as
bald jackass who got his head cut off by Wolverine.
fuck you Marvel. You make comic books $4 and now this shit.
 
This felt like an extended trailer for a fan film. It wasnt cannon to his comic origin or the other films, it felt like it was on sets the whole time, so many random characters that where crammed in to... help the story? Nope. Better to explain why wolverine is so pissed off? Didnt feel like it..... A failure at "fan service", I think that might be the culprit. (Or action figures)

Dominic Monhigan (however you spell it) ...really? They needed him to play that character for 3 minutes because?

Will.I.am. What the hell. Really? He acts as well as every other rapper, your not sure if they are going to make it through their next line. Hes either going to fall asleep or is trying to be so "bad ass/fly diggity" and to show that he mumbles in a monotone voice. Ugh.

Blob... what a fun boxing scene. Yay? Why? What a waste of makeup. He looked cool but he was a prop. He, along with the rest of the cast, served no point in the story.

Gambit, yep, he was there. Fought on the "Louisiana set" for 3 minutes then all of a sudden became best plane buddies?
What a utter shame. I could go on and on. They had every ingredient to make a wolverine cake, it was sitting right there on the counter!!! But no, to many inexperienced cooks in the kitchen throwing in random stuff.

Can we start over with a deadpool/wolverine buddy movie?
 
[quote name='Lice']

Can we start over with a deadpool/wolverine buddy movie?[/QUOTE]

Actually, no. That bridge is burned. We shall never see a Deadpool movie. They saw too that. And that Donner bitch had the nerve to say they were thinking about developing Deadpool and Gambit movies MONTHS ago.

How could no one ask just 1 fucking comic nerd their opinion on this trash?! :roll:
 
[quote name='Deadpool']Actually, no. That bridge is burned. We shall never see a Deadpool movie. They saw too that. And that Donner bitch had the nerve to say they were thinking about developing Deadpool and Gambit movies MONTHS ago.

How could no one ask just 1 fucking comic nerd their opinion on this trash?! :roll:[/quote]


Amen!
 
[quote name='Lice']
Dominic Monhigan (however you spell it) ...really? They needed him to play that character for 3 minutes because?

Will.I.am. What the hell. Really? He acts as well as every other rapper, your not sure if they are going to make it through their next line. Hes either going to fall asleep or is trying to be so "bad ass/fly diggity" and to show that he mumbles in a monotone voice. Ugh.

Blob... what a fun boxing scene. Yay? Why? What a waste of makeup. He looked cool but he was a prop. He, along with the rest of the cast, served no point in the story.

Gambit, yep, he was there. Fought on the "Louisiana set" for 3 minutes then all of a sudden became best plane buddies?
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You brought up Blob on two points. Really? Why? You realize that Dominic's character was the Blob, right?

They were "best plane buddies" because Gambit was showing him where Three Mile Island was. He escaped from Stryker's camp. Did you not pay attention when they were talking? Gambit wanted revenge, Wolverine wanted revenge, Gambit knew where the place was and won a plane in a bet. How's that hard to believe? Were you paying attention during the movie?

I disagree completely with Will.I.Am's performance. I thought it was good. Not the best, but it certainly could've been worse. They could've fleshed out Wraith a little bit more, but for movie purposes, I thought they did alright.

And how did the movie not serve as a better way to understand why Wolverine's so pissed off? His dad was killed in front of him, he thought his wife was, Stryker orders them to erase his memory, his "brother" wants to kill him.. then he gets shot in the head and loses all recollection of anything. If I woke up one morning and was able to painfully produce metal claws from my fist and unable to remember anything about my past, I think I'd be pretty pissed too.

Like I said, aside from my issues with how they bastardized Deadpool later in the movie, I thought it was a decent movie. I really enjoyed Ryan's performance as early Deadpool.

In other news, Raven has expressed interest in making a video game starring Deadpool. The comic book version of Deadpool. Hurrah!
 
I can buy that Gambit won the plane in a card game, but something about him knowing how to pilot it didn't seem right. You don't just win piloting skills in a card game.
 
I'm guessing he learned somewhere down the road. No sense in owning a plane if you can't fly it. The movies never followed the comics 100%, so who knows.
 
[quote name='Scorch']
You brought up Blob on two points. Really? Why? You realize that Dominic's character was the Blob, right?

They were "best plane buddies" because Gambit was showing him where Three Mile Island was. He escaped from Stryker's camp. Did you not pay attention when they were talking? Gambit wanted revenge, Wolverine wanted revenge, Gambit knew where the place was and won a plane in a bet. How's that hard to believe? Were you paying attention during the movie?

I disagree completely with Will.I.Am's performance. I thought it was good. Not the best, but it certainly could've been worse. They could've fleshed out Wraith a little bit more, but for movie purposes, I thought they did alright.

And how did the movie not serve as a better way to understand why Wolverine's so pissed off? His dad was killed in front of him, he thought his wife was, Stryker orders them to erase his memory, his "brother" wants to kill him.. then he gets shot in the head and loses all recollection of anything. If I woke up one morning and was able to painfully produce metal claws from my fist and unable to remember anything about my past, I think I'd be pretty pissed too.

Like I said, aside from my issues with how they bastardized Deadpool later in the movie, I thought it was a decent movie. I really enjoyed Ryan's performance as early Deadpool.

In other news, Raven has expressed interest in making a video game starring Deadpool. The comic book version of Deadpool. Hurrah![/quote]
Dominic is not the blob... what the hell are you talking about? And you enjoyed Will.i.ams performance huh? Ok, no more movie reviews from you! :hot:
 
Saw it, enjoyed parts of it. Hated other parts. I loved comic books growing up and still do, but the thing I hate more and more is revisionist history. Constantly feeling cheated sucks

One good thing is how it related to me personally.

I grew up 2 miles from TMI. I gave a high pitched HA! when I Gambit said where they were going
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']
Dominic is not the blob... what the hell are you talking about? And you enjoyed Will.i.ams performance huh? Ok, no more movie reviews from you! :hot:
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Like this role and many others people say were terrible (Vin Diesel in Fast and Furios for example. I don't necessarily think it was terrible. I do think any Hobo of the street could give the same caliber performance with an hour of acting classes. Though, that probably constitutes bad acting.
 
Scorch:
You brought up Blob on two points. Really? Why? You realize that Dominic's character was the Blob, right?

Really? That makes sense. He was 100 pounds and controlling light bulbs, and he was not really killed by Victor, got really depressed and gained 300 pounds. Man I guess I was not paying attention. Fail.

They were "best plane buddies" because Gambit was showing him where Three Mile Island was. He escaped from Stryker's camp. Did you not pay attention when they were talking? Gambit wanted revenge, Wolverine wanted revenge, Gambit knew where the place was and won a plane in a bet. How's that hard to believe? Were you paying attention during the movie?

No i got that simple plot. I didnt beleive it. Nothing lead up to wolverine trusting him. That would of simply been more character development and dialogue which this movie felt was unnecessary.

I disagree completely with Will.I.Am's performance. I thought it was good. Not the best, but it certainly could've been worse. They could've fleshed out Wraith a little bit more, but for movie purposes, I thought they did alright.

Really? You just wrote that... Check out the Chung Li movie, you might just implode of "good acting" excitment. And the other guy from black eye peas is in it, collect them all.

And how did the movie not serve as a better way to understand why Wolverine's so pissed off? His dad was killed in front of him, he thought his wife was, Stryker orders them to erase his memory, his "brother" wants to kill him.. then he gets shot in the head and loses all recollection of anything. If I woke up one morning and was able to painfully produce metal claws from my fist and unable to remember anything about my past, I think I'd be pretty pissed too.

Because it was pointless and made up from the comic etc. When the whole movie was just "forgotten" by the main character, it takes us back to square one. The adamantium process was a few minutes and didnt seem to bother him as much as riding in planes.

Like I said, aside from my issues with how they bastardized Deadpool later in the movie, I thought it was a decent movie.

They "bastardized" the entire movie, its characters, and any respect fans had for fox.

Fake CG Patrick Stewart is disappointed in you.

+1 Liquid 2
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']If you liked this movie, you are an utterly depraved and empty shell of a human being.[/quote]
Meh. I have no intention of seeing this but I would never look down at others for tastes in movies. I know lots of good people that would probably enjoy just cause it's Wolverine and pals and they watched the cartoon or something. Not everybody looks too deep into it.
 
I hated it. The only thing I liked was seeing the characters. Then I realized the acting was terrible or they only showed up for like five minutes (Gambit). I didn't pay for it either.
 
[quote name='bardockkun']In X3's defense, what they did to Deadpool was just criminal. Like I never thought Marvel was THAT stupid in their treatment of his character. It hurts so much because with those few scenes WITH Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, you get a glimpse of how great it could've been if they went full on Merc with a Mouth. Instead it was
a GODDAMN CYBORG WITH OPTIC BLASTS, TELEPORTATION, SWORDS IN HIS ARMS AND HIS MOUTH SEWN SHUT!
The EXACT opposite of what his character was or should've been and all I can do is question why. There is NO reason why they needed to do this. They could've made a great character into a spin off movie that could work as an action-comedy and given Marvel more money, but No. Instead if they somehow do make it work, they'll think of it as
bald jackass who got his head cut off by Wolverine.
fuck you Marvel. You make comic books $4 and now this shit.[/QUOTE]

FYI
one of the endings shows Deadpool still alive and with his mouth no longer sealed.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']FYI
one of the endings shows Deadpool still alive and with his mouth no longer sealed.
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I Got Wolverine drinking in Japan, but I still can't get over his treatment even with that. 5 Minutes of Ryan Reynolds is not going to be enough to convince the movie going public to see a Deadpool movie now if it is spun out from this movie, which is what I would have at least wanted. Plus there still is no reason why they had to do this to Deadpool as opposed to say a random mutant or a hybrid Sentinel or something.
 
I confused Dominick and Dukes. My fault. :dunce:

No i got that simple plot. I didnt beleive it. Nothing lead up to wolverine trusting him. That would of simply been more character development and dialogue which this movie felt was unnecessary.
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Wolverine had no other choice other than to trust him. He was the only one that knew where Three Mile Island was.
Really? You just wrote that... Check out the Chung Li movie, you might just implode of "good acting" excitment. And the other guy from black eye peas is in it, collect them all.
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So just because one actor from a group is bad, they all are? Like I said, he could've done a lot worse.

Because it was pointless and made up from the comic etc. When the whole movie was just "forgotten" by the main character, it takes us back to square one. The adamantium process was a few minutes and didnt seem to bother him as much as riding in planes.
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But doesn't Wolverine have memory loss in the comics? Granted, I don't think it's from an adamantium bullet, but I knew he would lose his memory at some point. He knew nothing of his origin, he had to be told of it.
They "bastardized" the entire movie, its characters, and any respect fans had for fox.
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I wouldn't say the entire movie.

Fake CG Patrick Stewart is disappointed in you.
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Fake CG Patrick Stewart creeped the hell out of me.

HTML!! :bomb:

Anyway, I'm going to bow out of the argument. Everyone's going to find something to complain about. I've said that I enjoyed the movie but hated how they portrayed Deadpool.. other than that, it was okay.
 
Just saw it. Liked it. I wasn't expecting The Dark Knight or anything though. It was good as a turn your brain off type action movie and that's fine with me. Leagues better than either X3 or Spider Man 3 anyway.
 
I liked the good parts... and I hated the bad parts....

pretty much agreed with everyone here... I enjoyed it but it could have been SO much more.

anyways.. maybe they will learn.
 
I thought it was ok. I didn't hate it but Its easily the worst of the Xmen movies. I thought Gambit was one of the bright spots in the movie.
 
Hold on Patrick Stewart was CG in this movie? I saw the leaded version and he didn't seem CG at all in it. I will have to check it out again though. If he is CG in this movie he was one of the first things done in CG because you could tell what they were still working on that was CG.
 
[quote name='sendme']Hold on Patrick Stewart was CG in this movie? I saw the leaded version and he didn't seem CG at all in it. I will have to check it out again though. If he is CG in this movie he was one of the first things done in CG because you could tell what they were still working on that was CG.[/QUOTE]

They did the same "digital skin graft" thing they did in X3 to make him look younger.
 
[quote name='Magus8472']They did the same "digital skin graft" thing they did in X3 to make him look younger.[/quote]
No... the Disney animatronics team built a ten million dollar Patrick Stewart robot. As of now, it is in the pirates of Caribbean ride disguised as a hefty wench!
 
The portrayal of Deadpool was extremely disappointing, but I was rendered numb after witnessing the sacrilegious treatment the Juggernaut received in X3.
 
It sounds like this Deadpool owed more to the Ultimate X-men version, where he was an cyborg Genoshan, than anything in the mainline Marvel universe.

Very disappointing. So much could be done with this character in a movie. One of the failings of the Spider-man movies is the character's lack of snappy patter during combat. Getting Deadpool's personality and fourth wall breaking translated to the screen would be a lot of fun. Like if Ferris Bueller grew up to be a demented mercenary with regenerative powers.
 
It's especially depressing to go back and read the beginning of this thread and see all of the hope and joy at the trailer...

I saw it last night, and I thought that it was okay for the first bit, but it started going downhill fast. It just amazes me that anyone would let them do that to the Deadpool character. I mean, it would make sense to change around a boring/crappy character, but Deadpool was already cool as hell.

As a side note, the "adamantium bullet" bit was one of the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a movie. I don't even want to try to argue why someone, somewhere, said "Let's have Wolverine, who can heal pretty much anything, get shot in the head in order to lose his memories. Wait, what? Yeah, I know that even in the opening scene of the movie he runs through streams of bullets, is shot by a firing squad, and takes a cannonball to the chest. This is an adamantium bullet dude, it destroys memories. Duh."

EDIT: Oh, and I almost forgot: Deadpool being able to bend his arm at the elbow while his adamantium swords are retracted makes me want to punch someone in the face.
 
[quote name='bardockkun']
I Got Wolverine drinking in Japan, but I still can't get over his treatment even with that. 5 Minutes of Ryan Reynolds is not going to be enough to convince the movie going public to see a Deadpool movie now if it is spun out from this movie, which is what I would have at least wanted. Plus there still is no reason why they had to do this to Deadpool as opposed to say a random mutant or a hybrid Sentinel or something.
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Yeah I agree. They basically wasted Ryan Reynolds who actually did a decent job as Deadpool early on. The fight scene at the end would've been 10x better if he could've commented on it. I'm guessing the writers were lazy and didn't want to write any more cheesy ass dialog by that point. If they wind up doing a Deadpool movie, they MUST put someone whose worth half a damn behind it.
 
The movie was okay but nothing spectacular. Usually after the movie I keep thinking about parts that were cool and saying to my friends how I like so and so part. But this one there was none of that. I think I'm more excited to play the game when I get a chance. Well, plenty of Blockbuster season left. I'm looking forward to Star Trek next...
 
Is it possible that the GAME to have a better story than the movie?!?!

Usually they make the movie after the game came out, Postal, Bloodrayne, Hitman... but really at this point, could the video game be better?

I like it because it's Marvel and they are still thinking about making movies. But they need to kill the script writer and all the yes men that followed this.
 
Not me. I thought it was decent. None of the Xmen movies have been comic book perfect, so I didn't expect this one to be either.
Yes, they could have done better with Deadpool, but they didn't. They could have done better with Gambit, but they didn't. (Gambit is actually one of my favorites, they could have done better with him. I'll forgive this given the screen time and it wasn't a Gambit movie.)

Go see it and don't expect the comic books, expect alot of trying to explain a somewhat complicated character in around 2 hours that fits within the movie "universe" already established. I finally got to see Wolverine tearing shit up, so I'm satisfied.

People are just pissed because Heath Ledger wasn't in it.


[quote name='SneakyPenguin']Fuuuuuuck, I really wanted to see it, but holy shit is it getting torn to shreds by everyone.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='mrnivek']The movie was okay but nothing spectacular. Usually after the movie I keep thinking about parts that were cool and saying to my friends how I like so and so part. But this one there was none of that. I think I'm more excited to play the game when I get a chance. Well, plenty of Blockbuster season left. I'm looking forward to Star Trek next...[/QUOTE]

Just got back and I feel the same way. It wasn't a bad movie per say but I wouldn't call it good either, better then X3 or Fantastic Four but that isn't saying much. I think one of the biggest problems came in with the violence or lack of. These were supposed to be Wolverine's more hardcore days before Xavier softened him up but I just didn't get that sense. I didn't like Ryan Renolds at all in Blade III but you know what he really was wasted here , he genuinely pulled off the character in the first 20 minutes of the movie.
 
I just got back a few hours ago from this movie. It was good.. Not great, but good. I was expecting Professor X's scene to be from the back only with Patrick Stewart's voice over, but when the camera came around I was like WHOA...how much did Stewart get for that scene?!?!?!

So how did X become wheelchair bonded? I thought his powers is what caused his condition.

Also isn't the guy who played Victor the same guy who played Sabertooth in the first movie? If it was , I was hoping that something happened to Victor that causes him to be all hairy and he loses his memory just like Logan did.

Sorry I am so out of touch with the comic series.
 
Stop calling the "Deadpool" in this movie Deadpool.

It is not Deadpool. It is experiment eleven or whatever.

Once more, it is not Deadpool. It's insulting.
 
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