Xbox 360 Elite $427.49 @ Amazon

Its listing at $449.99 for me
Where are you seeing 427?

Also it says Xbox 360 Elite Bundle

Does that mean it comes w/ the Forza & Marvel UA package?
Because the picture of the box doesnt show that. But I'm not sure what else Bundle could mean.
 
[quote name='TURBO']Its listing at $449.99 for me
Where are you seeing 427?

Also it says Xbox 360 Elite Bundle

Does that mean it comes w/ the Forza & Marvel UA package?
Because the picture of the box doesnt show that. But I'm not sure what else Bundle could mean.[/quote]

It's a goldbox deal, so you need to go to your Amazon gold box and see if it's there for you. I waited weeks to get a 360 in my goldbox, so I went ahead and ordered one at full price and then asked Amazon to give me 5% off after the fact. It worked!
 
yeah, I guess its sort of YMMV, not sure if the gold box is for everyone or just for me? I did buy a few 360 things so maybe it figured I'd like an Xbox to go with it, lol.

too bad I got mine from EB games, or I'd order this and send that back
 
[quote name='lpj8']It's a goldbox deal, so you need to go to your Amazon gold box and see if it's there for you. I waited weeks to get a 360 in my goldbox, so I went ahead and ordered one at full price and then asked Amazon to give me 5% off after the fact. It worked![/QUOTE]
Hmm, I wasn't logged in. Maybe that was it. I'll give it another go.

edit:

I remember Gold Box being like a separate page and it would offer you deals one at a time and you only had that one time to accept them. Now when i click on the gold box banner (below) it just refreshes the page I'm on. It says "Deal of the Day" Hard Drive & "Our Best Deals - Great ongoing deals from across Amazon.com" with a bunch of stuff lower on the page.

Am I doing it wrong?


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[quote name='Bazz']I think this system will drop after xmas to 399.99 makes no sense the price it is at.[/QUOTE]

uh no :drool:
 
well, i don't think its gonna drop for another year, why would they? the 360 is the best selling console right now (although the wii is right there), I see the Wii as a different type of system, its GREAT for multiplayer and parties, but I don't play many 1 player games on mine (except mario galaxy).

Xbox 360's only competition is the Ps3, which Sony has dropped the ball on several occasions.
 
[quote name='Zhanmadao']uh no :drool:[/quote]
Well, Cheapy quoted someone at Neogaf a while back saying that there would be a two-stage price drop. The original post is here. The original price drop (which hadn't been announced at that point) happened as stated. We're behind schedule on the second price drop, but it could certainly still happen after Christmas, once the remaining non-Falcon units are gone. The whole point of Falcon (from Microsoft's perspective) was to make the console cheaper to produce, which would allow them to sell it for less. I wouldn't be surprised if the bundled games go away and the price drops in the spring, but only time will tell.

[quote name='Drnick']the 360 is the best selling console right now[/quote]
The Wii is selling better than the 360 by a pretty wide margin.


Anyway, all that having been said, this is a great deal given that most of us wouldn't pay tax or shipping. I'd jump on it if I were certain to get a Falcon.
 
[quote name='elmyra']Well, Cheapy quoted someone at Neogaf a while back saying that there would be a two-stage price drop. The original post is here. The original price drop (which hadn't been announced at that point) happened as stated. We're behind schedule on the second price drop, but it could certainly still happen after Christmas, once the remaining non-Falcon units are gone. The whole point of Falcon (from Microsoft's perspective) was to make the console cheaper to produce, which would allow them to sell it for less. I wouldn't be surprised if the bundled games go away and the price drops in the spring, but only time will tell.


The Wii is selling better than the 360 by a pretty wide margin.


Anyway, all that having been said, this is a great deal given that most of us wouldn't pay tax or shipping. I'd jump on it if I were certain to get a Falcon.[/QUOTE]

but wouldn't it be weird for them to just change prices after the holidays? It would piss alot of the holiday buyers off or they would just return for a price match you know? I dont think they would do that unless they're really that desperate to beat the Wii which I think still wouldn't be sufficient enough.

and if you look at the price range.. it would destroy the pro sales positively.
 
Unless the pro dropped in price too. A $300 pro would be a big seller for MS I think.

I want the Holiday bundle though. I don't have either of the games and they're both ones I think i would enjoy.

I also want it to be a falcon (I have a 20GB from launch). I've used this site & apparently there are Falcon Elites out there pretty common.
http://www.360drives.com/list

I'll probably just cave and get one from CC. As long as they let me look at the lot number first. I was hoping to get one from Costco, but they stopped selling the elites :(
 
[quote name='Zhanmadao']and if you look at the price range.. it would destroy the pro sales positively.[/quote]

The Neogaf poster predicted second-stage drops on all three models, with the new prices being $249/299/399. This is all based on the word of one Neogaf poster with a supposed inside source, but he/she was right on the first drop, so who knows.
 
[quote name='elmyra']The Neogaf poster predicted second-stage drops on all three models, with the new prices being $249/299/399. This is all based on the word of one Neogaf poster with a supposed inside source, but he/she was right on the first drop, so who knows.[/quote]

Well Crapola ! I just ordered a PRO bundle from Amazon.com to replace my LAUNCH model ! I already HAVE the bundle games and was just going to sell them off !

Should I cancel my order and wait for the $299 reduction !?!?!

What to do.. Oh what to do...

Xfactor4
 
sorry to be a newb about this whole chipset thing but what's the difference between the old and new? I still have my launch xbox 360 pro I might just haggle my replacement plan in and try to get a elite+cash

also there was a thread about this falcon thing right? I can't seem to find it.
 
[quote name='Zhanmadao']sorry to be a newb about this whole chipset thing but what's the difference between the old and new? I still have my launch xbox 360 pro I might just haggle my replacement plan in and try to get a elite+cash

also there was a thread about this falcon thing right? I can't seem to find it.[/QUOTE]
It's not really the chipset. Although the chipset does change a little (less capacitors since it uses less power). Its the CPU. It goes from being 90nm to 65nm (the width of the transistors which are like the highways in the CPU).

Smaller transistors means it uses less electricity & produces less heat. That's the gist of it.
 
[quote name='TURBO']It's not really the chipset. Although the chipset does change a little (less capacitors since it uses less power). Its the CPU. It goes from being 90nm to 65nm (the width of the transistors which are like the highways in the CPU).

Smaller transistors means it uses less electricity & produces less heat. That's the gist of it.[/quote]
Uhh... Yeah... The CPU IS part of the chipset, along with the GPU etc ! LOL..

The new falcons have different cooling system and smaller die chips. They run off less power and run much cooler. This is a big deal since SOME of the earlier Xbox 360's dieda 3 red ring death due from OVERHEATING.

So yes, you want the newer chipset (with smaller CPU and smaller GPU and smaller anything you can get (i.e. capacitors, transistors etc) ! lol)

I also am upgrading my LAUNCH Xbox 360 (which I must admit, I havn't had ANY problems with it but it is a little noisy / loud except I can't even hear it when blasting my favorite games:lol:) since I want HDMI output and the newer chipset with smaller CPU and GPU.

Xfactor4
 
Uhh... Yeah... The CPU IS part of the chipset, along with the GPU etc ! LOL..
Click to expand...

Not for nothing, but the other guy was technically correct. In the computer world, the chipset is what is integrated into the motherboard. The CPU, GPU, memory, and other parts are not, and thus, not part of the chipset.
 
[quote name='Zhanmadao']sorry to be a newb about this whole chipset thing but what's the difference between the old and new? I still have my launch xbox 360 pro I might just haggle my replacement plan in and try to get a elite+cash

also there was a thread about this falcon thing right? I can't seem to find it.[/quote]

Here is a link to a page of a thread were I go into it alot and post some useful links...

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164166&page=2

Hope it helps ! :D

Xfactor4
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']Not for nothing, but the other guy was technically correct. In the computer world, the chipset is what is integrated into the motherboard. The CPU, GPU, memory, and other parts are not, and thus, not part of the chipset.[/quote]

Hmm.. Well maybe I should have said 'CHIP SET' as in the SET of CHIPS that go inside the new falcons, like a 'set' with smaller CPU and smaller die GPU !

Xfactor4
 
[quote name='Xfactor4']Hmm.. Well maybe I should have said 'CHIP SET' as in the SET of CHIPS that go inside the new falcons, like a 'set' with smaller CPU and smaller die GPU !

Xfactor4[/quote]

Hmmm.. Here is an old article from July about the New Xbox 360 and the 'NEW FALCON CHIPSET'

http://www.xboxic.com/news/3192

Clearly, we who are talking about the new FALCON Xbox 360's are talking about the FALCON CHIPSET which includes ALL THE CHIPS to make this baby work, CPU, GPU and ALL SUPPORTING SILICON ETCHED INTEGRATED CIRCUITS or CHIPS that help every CHIP communicate !

Xfactor4
 
The semantics change a bit, because consoles are not designed to be upgraded. But the truth remains. Chipsets do not include CPUs, GPUs, etc. The term, though, is used to describe everything on a console motherboard, because they are not removeable and because it's easier to market one entity, then to start throwing out a bunch of computer part names that most people don't understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipset
Image:Schema_chipsatz.png
 
This is basically a semantics argument, one not worth having. In the end, a motherboard's chipset is different from the CPU, GPU, etc. Anyone who works with computers knows this. With gaming consoles, though, considering their non-upgradeable design, parts not generally "integrated" into a motherboard are. So, the term chipset is used. Still, there is a difference.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']This is basically a semantics argument, one not worth having. In the end, a motherboard's chipset is different from the CPU, GPU, etc. Anyone who works with computers knows this. With gaming consoles, though, considering their non-upgradeable design, parts not generally "integrated" into a motherboard are. So, the term chipset is used. Still, there is a difference.[/quote]
I agree it is a semantics argument and not worth our time. That said, we are not talking about a build it up from scratch x86 computer and motherboard so a CONSOLE or VIDEOGAME machine would use the word 'chipset' differently than say a person who assembles or builds modern day computers.

I reliaze you said about the same thing, but just so you knew were I was coming from. I like to think of myself as FAIRLY computer literate, not super geek or nuthing but I know my way around. Just didn't want you to think I had no clue to what I was talking about...

Peace..

Xfactor4

P.S. I want a Xbox 360 with a Falcon Chipset !:lol:
 
I see now, thanks for explaining lol and by chance you guys think they would cut me some slack if I called about my new xbox 360 and give me a halo 3 for free? :D

I returned my CE 1 week after release because I got bored of it lol pratically now I just want to have a collection atleast.
 
in re: to the whole chipset hubbub

The chipset generally means the interconnects, capacitors & resistors. The CPU & GPU are usually referred to separately. One reason I suspect reporters referred to it as the Falcon chipset is because before it was launched it was unclear which parts had changed. But I do agree it is also a little more ambiguous because it uses a BGA for the CPU & GPU like most sealed CE. But it's structure is closer to a traditional computer than an integrated board. So it could go either way; just how you define it not what it is.

For the record, it's not only the CPU that has been reduced as is the commonly held belief. The GPU has also been reduced (although the heatsink remains unchanged unlike the CPU)
 
[quote name='TURBO']in re: to the whole chipset hubbub
For the record, it's not only the CPU that has been reduced as is the commonly held belief. The GPU has also been reduced (although the heatsink remains unchanged unlike the CPU)[/quote]

Not that I doubt you, but do you have any sources handy? I know what you mean about the commonly held belief... everything I read says that the CPU moved to a 65nm die while the GPU will not be reduced until the next chipset comes out next fall.

I had a Zephyr and a Falcon Elite to put side by side. There was very little difference in the noise and exhaust temperature. In fact, my Falcon Elite has difficulty detecting an available video output and fails to boot sometimes. If you have a Zephyr Elite don't think the world is going to change after you upgrade.
 
[quote name='spideymike']Not bad at all. I'll probably hold out until I can get a Pro or Elite in person instead of mystery shopping.[/quote]

:whistle2:#Whaaat? Sorry, but Amazon.com is not mystery shopping. I've found Amazon to be one of the best places to buy from this holiday season. Their customer service is spectacular and their product availability kills that of B&Ms (at least in my area around Philly).

Let me give you an example to quell your doubts. I bought a 360 Pro from Amazon last Tues. The price came out to be $300 since I had a $50 GC from my credit card rewards program and there is no tax, so I essentially saved an extra ~$25. I received the console on Thurs. Thanks to M$ shitty QA and hardward, the unit I received was manufactered 11-7-07 and it was defective. I called up M$ and they told me I was SOL. I would have to send the unit back to them and it would take up to four-six weeks to replace it, so it would be better for me to exchange it through Amazon. I called up Amazon, the rep didn't even ask any questions- he told me to look for a brand new unit on my doorstep the next day and to send the defective one back with a pre-paid label within 30 days. Friday rolls around and I receive the 360 at 1pm. The 360 I received on Friday has been up and running perfect all weekend.

Now, on the flipside. Let's say I believe shopping at Amazon is "mystery shopping," I'm like an old man - I have to buy from "the store." So I go into Circuit City, Best Buy, and Game stop - neither of the places have the 360 - they're all sold out. By luck, I stumble upon the last 360 at TRU. I buy it and take it home to find it's defective (big surprise!). I take it back to TRU and they tell me they have no 360 left and they're not really sure when another shipment is coming in. At this point, I've paid ~$375 and I have a defective 360 that I can either hold for questionable period of time or get my money back and chalk it up to bad luck. Either way I would've wasted my time and possibly thought about giving in to purchasing the unit on Amazon.

So, my doubtful friend, it's best to put a little faith in Amazon.com.
 
[quote name='drkrdglo']:whistle2:#Whaaat? Sorry, but Amazon.com is not mystery shopping. I've found Amazon to be one of the best places to buy from this holiday season. Their customer service is spectacular and their product availability kills that of B&Ms (at least in my area around Philly)[/quote]

I appreciate the long length in a reply and I'm glad Amazon is mailing things to you right away and you like them. I'd definitely order from them, but I have my own simple reason not too. I have a TRU Mastercard with over $100 in Geoffrey dollars to spend - and I'd like to put it towards a console and spend the extra balance at the B&M TRU store where I'll get a decent percentage of it back on my Mastercard - it's that plain and simple. Plus, I have a 2-year-old and I'm curious to see what they have for wear and tear warranty for stuff that lilttle boys can get into. I order from Amazon all that time. I'm not some old man afraid of technology and the wacky world of online shopping. If I was, I certainly wouldn't be posting online. Amazon is great and I order from them all the time, too. Hey, while you're online on Amazon, buy a copy of my book I wrote and help me fund my gaming, Star Wars, Godzilla, and comic book habit. :lol:
 
[quote name='WillSci']Not that I doubt you, but do you have any sources handy? I know what you mean about the commonly held belief... everything I read says that the CPU moved to a 65nm die while the GPU will not be reduced until the next chipset comes out next fall.

I had a Zephyr and a Falcon Elite to put side by side. There was very little difference in the noise and exhaust temperature. In fact, my Falcon Elite has difficulty detecting an available video output and fails to boot sometimes. If you have a Zephyr Elite don't think the world is going to change after you upgrade.[/quote]

Here's you proof about the smaller CPU and GPU !

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3152&p=3

Enjoy the article ! Good read !

Xfactor4
 
[quote name='WillSci']Not that I doubt you, but do you have any sources handy? I know what you mean about the commonly held belief... everything I read says that the CPU moved to a 65nm die while the GPU will not be reduced until the next chipset comes out next fall.

I had a Zephyr and a Falcon Elite to put side by side. There was very little difference in the noise and exhaust temperature. In fact, my Falcon Elite has difficulty detecting an available video output and fails to boot sometimes. If you have a Zephyr Elite don't think the world is going to change after you upgrade.[/quote]
Yeah, I believe that the GPU was also shrunk some. They didn't shrink it to 65....more like 80. In theory, a smaller GPU and CPU should make for a cooler machine.
 
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