Xbox Live Gold Price Increase 11/1 - Subscription Deals Inside

If they brought the prices down on DLC and Arcade games and actually gave us some free stuff once in a while like they used to when the 360 first came out, I wouldn't mind.
 
[quote name='RPGamer246']I don't see the $60 price as that bad. I mean it really only comes out to $5 a month if you look at it monthly and to me xbox live seems worth $5 a month.[/QUOTE]

Dude, why stop there? If you break it down even further it's only $1.25 a week!

Gold is obviously worth at least 75cents every Wednesday afternoon.
 
I love the hate

Dont get it yea it sucks that the subscription is going up but honestly whoever has bought live for retail shouldn't be on this site. Amazon, Newegg, eBay, Walmart, Toys R Us have all had sales on XBL hell if its a big deal then drop the $80 now and buy 2 years worth but I have a feeling they will go on sale like it always does
 
I hope the family pack gets discounted to $60. If it does, I'll be OK with it. As it stands, my kids not being able to play online (with their own friends lists, own achievements, own saves) sucks. If I can get the family pack for $60 it will be an improvement. If it sticks close to $100 I'm going to be unhappy. They ought to be lowering the price and making it apply to the console instead of just one account. Instead they are raising the price. It's pretty irritating.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']When it comes to Xbox live, CAGs turn into DAGs (dumb ass gamers). For all those years of Microsoft support and the only reward you get is an extra 10 extra dollars pimped from your walled. Honestly, if you got your entire gaming collection with MS, then all your games (online games) will be useless if you don't pay for live. (because you can't use the game online, get updates..etc). I know the services has its advantages of PSN (not very many imo) but that's a business that I can't and won't support.[/QUOTE]

Too be fair, other than a few raging fanboys I don't think anyone really defends live being a pay service, much less the price increase.

I've always hated paying for it, but I'm a one console guy (don't game anywhere near enough to justify owning multiple consoles) and the 360 easily one the exclusive game battle for me (Sony's first party stuff never interested me much) so it was the one I bought this generation.

So I've had to grin and bear the $30-35 for Xbox live on sale a year to game online, use Netflix streaming etc.

But I won't defend it, and definitely not the price increase as it sucks to have to pay for this stuff--even if it is just pocket change to me even after the increase. It's not fun paying for features that are mostly freely available on other platforms. But alas, Gears, Mass Effect (though that is coming PS3, at least the sequel) are exclusive and those are the games I most enjoy, so c'est la vie.
 
[quote name='mitch079']Eh, if they ever do another Netflix promo where they're giving out one month codes again, we all should stock up. As it is, that last promo put me good until Feb 2012.[/QUOTE]
Yep, glad I took advantage of that now, I'm good until sometime in 2013.
 
This sucks.

BTW, leave feedback over on Major Nelson's blog if you don't like it. The more voices, the more likely they are to do something. I doubt that they would ever reverse the increase, but they might do something to make it more tolerable (free game, bigger discounts on DLC, something to make the value proposition better). If we just roll over, they will continue to increase it in the future.
 
I hate Facebook, I hate Twitter, I hate Zune (I like the previous MS video player features better), I hate sports so I don't care about ESPN and I don't use Last.fm, if I were I would just turn my Xbox off to reduce chance of RROD (hit me for the first time recently) and just use it on my PC.

I love Netflix though I can happily use that on my PC (which now streams in HD) and PS3 (soon no disc!) and Wii. So in the end, MS can go F themselves to Hell. They're doing this NOW because their biggest shooters are coming out, Halo: Reach, Call of Duty: Black Ops and eventually Gears of War 3.

They wouldn't have done this 4 months ago because nothing major came out then. Also they couldn't have announced this at E3 due to all the bad press, but by the time the next E3 comes around, this will no longer be a hot topic and it won't likely be brought up at E3 2011. They obviously planned this very carefully.

Also: fuck them!
 
[quote name='specialist']Dude, why stop there? If you break it down even further it's only $1.25 a week!

Gold is obviously worth at least 75cents every Wednesday afternoon.[/QUOTE]
I guess it would be nice to pay 75 cents a week... but you have to pay the $60 all at once. Which is the price of a game. So I don't understand that logic.
 
I love how if you reasonable defend the $10 a year increase because you legitimately do not have an issue with it you are labelled a "fanboy."

Seriously, 10 over the course of a year isnt much. Yes, it does kind of suck they are raising the price but as a company it is their right to do so. If you dont like it, well, move along. Crying, bitching, moaning, and QQing all over the internet is not going to change it. I guaranteee that. Quote me for it. Also, as it has been said throughout this thread, how many of you actually pay full price anyways?

I think some of you people just need something to bitch about and this is your easy gripe for the week. Don't worry though. I am sure someone will make a new OMG GS gutted my new game thread in the next day or so since Metroid: Other M comes out tomrrow. Then you can go back to your regularly scheduled bitchfest and move along.....
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']I guess it would be nice to pay 75 cents a week... but you have to pay the $60 all at once. Which is the price of a game. So I don't understand that logic.[/QUOTE]

It's just a way to put the cost in perspective. Again I HATE paying for live and would of course prefer it be free, so I"m not defending the cost.

But at the end of the day it's $60 (likely deals for $40 or so) for a service you'll use all year long. Vs say $60 for a game that most of us will play until we beat it and never touch it again.

So since it's a year service, there's some utility in thinking about cost per month to put it in perspective. But of course at the end of the day it's the same amount of money, so it's really just a mechanism for people to talk themselves into spending the money as $5 a month is pocket change for most anyone, where as $60 at once is a big chunk of change to some. Thus they can think of the $5 a month thing to make it easier to swallow forking out the $60.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']Yeah I know what you mean. They ask you "are you sure?" about 6 times before they finally do it. Just remember that every time you use a code to add months that they reset your auto renewal. You have to turn it off AGAIN.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the heads up. I was wondering why auto renew would be "on". What bullshit.

As a XBLA fan this really pisses me off. So many good games I've bought but so wanting to never renew.
 
[quote name='Spyder187']I think some of you people just need something to bitch about and this is your easy gripe for the week. Don't worry though. I am sure someone will make a new OMG GS gutted my new game thread in the next day or so since Metroid: Other M comes out tomrrow. Then you can go back to your regularly scheduled bitchfest and move along.....[/QUOTE]
Wait are you saying you never complain about anything on the forums?
 
[quote name='Spyder187']I love how if you reasonable defend the $10 a year increase because you legitimately do not have an issue with it you are labelled a "fanboy."

Seriously, 10 over the course of a year isnt much. Yes, it does kind of suck they are raising the price but as a company it is their right to do so. [/QUOTE]

To clarify, I don't think everyone who's semi-ok with the increase is a fanboy. Just those going to great lengths to defend the price increase. Only fanboy's give a shit what people say on a forum about a game corporation.

$10 a year is nothing. I drink $10 beers regularly. But I won't defend MS for increasing it as the fact is they were already charging $50 a year MSRP for services available free on other platforms--sans a few features many/most don't use like cross game chat etc. So it is kind of throwing salt in the wound to raise that fee.

But again, I'll grin and bear it as they have the exclusives I want to play so I have no interest in switching consoles.
 
[quote name='62t']I dont think anyone would disagree that Live is a better service than PSN. However it is not $50 better, and it is certainly not $60 better.[/QUOTE]


If you play shooters it really is. The ps3 controller is garbage for fps's in my opinion. If you don't like a controller for certain games then paying for the better service would definitely be worth it.
 
I totally understand why people are upset but I fail to see how this will stop Amazon from offering it for half that price. After all, we are all on this website for exactly this sort of reason.
 
Just a question on finding the amazon discount cards everyone keeps talking about, I looked on there and every card I found has like 9.99 shipping attached to it also. So let me know all, thank you.
 
[quote name='Spyder187']Actually dipshit, I own all 3 systems. I am not a "Fanboy" of any 1 of those systems, although I do prefer to play on the 360 as that is just my personal choice. I dont give a damn what systme peolpe play on, as each one has its own merits and some good exclusives. Hence the reson I own all 3. My issue is when some people want to cry over an additional 10 dollar a year increase after 8 years of service and improvements after paying 50 bucks a year for minor improvements that honestly should have been done from the start.

Your failure to understand these things and immediately throw out the term fanboy shows your short-sidedness and inability to comprehend the larger issue I was making.[/QUOTE]

The larger issue for me, and something you fail to understand, i and many people dont give a damn about those extra features....i have a computer that does all that better than a 360 can.... i just want to play games....nothing else....screw the increase.....ill go ps3
 
Well, at least we get new content. Oh wait, my ISP doesn't support the streaming content from ESPN3 and I don't have a Hulu Plus subscription. Thanks for all the new stuff to justify the price hike. I like M$, but it appears they are already trying to make back some of the money lost making Kinect.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']I guess it would be nice to pay 75 cents a week... but you have to pay the $60 all at once. Which is the price of a game. So I don't understand that logic.[/QUOTE]

I was making fun of him. :cool:
 
[quote name='Mastastic']Well, at least we get new content. Oh wait, my ISP doesn't support the streaming content from ESPN3 and I don't have a Hulu Plus subscription. Thanks for all the new stuff to justify the price hike. I like M$, but it appears they are already trying to make back some of the money lost making Kinect.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I hate that. I love ESPN 3 and was really looking forward to it coming to live so I could get it on the TV (my TV lacks RGB input, and my laptop has no other video outs).

But I moved and my new condo has DirecPath internet provided through the condo fees and they don't have ESPN 3. :bomb: Oh well, the service is good so no way I'd pay for another ISP just to get that. Could always probably bum a Comcast log in off a friend I suppose.
 
[quote name='uglyteradon']I totally understand why people are upset but I fail to see how this will stop Amazon from offering it for half that price. After all, we are all on this website for exactly this sort of reason.[/QUOTE]

Again, think about it.

Live is now $50. Amazon sells it usually for $40, with occasional deals for $30 or $35. So usually a $10 discount that sometimes jumps to $15-20 off.

Now the MSRP is $60, it's unlikely that Amazon will take any larger discounts. So likely the normal Amazon price will be $50, with occasional $15-20 off deals which make it $40-45.

So in any case, we all likely pay $10 a year more than we did in the past, even at discount prices as Amazon probably isn't going to take a loss or reduce profits any further than they do currently.
 
[quote name='Dr.Zoidberg']Wow. Any negative thing about xbox really brings the ps3 boys out of the woods...lol[/QUOTE]

Anything negative about Xbox really brings the Microsoft Defense Force boys out of the woods....lol
 
[quote name='Mastastic']Well, at least we get new content. Oh wait, my ISP doesn't support the streaming content from ESPN3 and I don't have a Hulu Plus subscription. Thanks for all the new stuff to justify the price hike. I like M$, but it appears they are already trying to make back some of the money lost making Kinect.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing but I just read tonight that Time Warner has come to a tentative deal with Disney so I am hoping to get ESPN 3 since I don't get cable tv.
 
[quote name='uglyteradon']I totally understand why people are upset but I fail to see how this will stop Amazon from offering it for half that price. After all, we are all on this website for exactly this sort of reason.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure Microsoft will boost the price of subscription cards accordingly. Amazon will be forced to pass on the additional fee to the consumer. What use to be $30-$40 subscriptions cards from Amazon will quickly become $40-$50 cards.

It wasn't that long ago that Live subscription cards were 12 + 1 months for $50 MSRP. Now they're going to be 12 months for $60 MSRP.
 
[quote name='maximus101']Anything negative about Xbox really brings the Microsoft Defense Force boys out of the woods....lol[/QUOTE]
I really don't understand the people who enjoy paying more for something. Why are they even on this site?
 
I'd say the jury is still out on how steep amazon (and other) discounts will be starting 11/1.

Right now I imagine this will happen:
1) people will re-up on their XBL subs while the price is still $50, and seek discounted rates at amazon and elsewhere.
2) 12 months or so from now, when their sub is about to end, the anger of the cost increase they have right now will subside, and they'll re-up at the higher rate. Little to no decline in subscriptions (of current subscribers) for XBL at all.

Also, I'd pay $100 a year if XBL got ESPN 8: The Ocho.
 
[quote name='SINNED']

You can get discounted 1 year subscriptions from the following places:
Amazon - $39.94
Newegg - $39.99
Microsoft - $39.99*
Walmart - $39.99

more here

*Limit: One (1) per account. One year subscription at $39.99 for the first year with auto-renewal at the then current annual price following year one.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the links OP, but fyi:

Amazon is listing is as $45.60 now plus $3.98 shipping.
Newegg is limit 2 per order and $1.99 shipping.
 
[quote name='yruluis']Amazon is now 45 + shipping. I thought amazon fulfilled the order. Not anymore.[/QUOTE]
Amazon is out of them. Walmart still has for $39.94 with free in-store pickup.
 
[quote name='Vader582']I really don't understand the people who enjoy paying more for something. Why are they even on this site?[/QUOTE]

I doubt anyone ENJOYs paying it. Some just love the XBOX and feel a need to offend. Other's like me don't like paying for Live period, much less the increase, but deal with it as we like the games and it's not all that much money at the end of the day.

But that aside, this isn't just a deal site. It's a great gaming community. I don't really check the deals thread that much as I make ok money to buy the games I want, and get a lot of stuff from Goozex etc. But I keep coming as it's probably the best gaming forum I've found on the net in terms of being relatively limited in fanboys, flame wars, kids etc. etc. And it has good off topic areas which keep me coming back even during periods where I'm not gaming much.
 
I used to love Xbox Live and have been on it since like 2004, but I think the service has become shit and now they're going to charge $10 more? What a joke. I'm good until almost 2012, might renew one year after that and that's it. Only reason I have it is for Halo Reach anyways. Sucks that even with all the complainers, they'll still buy up all those subscriptions and/or renew and MS will be loving it.
 
[quote name='Viva Las Vegas']My isp doesn't support ESPN3, once it comes to Xbox Live will I then be able to watch it?
Sorry a little off topic but since ESPN # has been brought up.[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure the answer is no as it would still have to go through your ISP.

If I'm wrong, and any gold account can access it, then I'd be pretty damn stoked and ignore the increase as I'd pay way more than $10 a year for ESPN access if I had the option. But I don't see that happening unfortunately.
 
It was bound to happen. Interesting to see that the price increase will happen before Black Friday. With the holiday season coming up, I expect to see little to no change to the amount of subscribers.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Too be fair, other than a few raging fanboys I don't think anyone really defends live being a pay service, much less the price increase.

I've always hated paying for it, but I'm a one console guy (don't game anywhere near enough to justify owning multiple consoles) and the 360 easily one the exclusive game battle for me (Sony's first party stuff never interested me much) so it was the one I bought this generation.

So I've had to grin and bear the $30-35 for Xbox live on sale a year to game online, use Netflix streaming etc.

But I won't defend it, and definitely not the price increase as it sucks to have to pay for this stuff--even if it is just pocket change to me even after the increase. It's not fun paying for features that are mostly freely available on other platforms. But alas, Gears, Mass Effect (though that is coming PS3, at least the sequel) are exclusive and those are the games I most enjoy, so c'est la vie.[/QUOTE]

Right now you, and all the other 360 owners have your systems, you have your games. Even if you wanted to switch it'd cost you at least 300 to buy a PS3. MS knows that's not realistic for most to spend 300 dollars just to save 60 dollars a year. So now, you're stuck basically being forced to pay that extra 10 dollars (assuming you don't find a deal) just to keep the online component for not only the games you already own, but for those games you were hoping to own in the future. This issue is not a "fanboy" issue, to me it's a consumer issue... a MONEY issue. I just find it to be a slap in the face to all the xbox live customers that have paid for live since day 1 and made that business one of the most successful business models in this industry, and to then turn around and raise the price. Why?! because they know they've got their customers by the balls, and they can increase that price and people will have to bite the bullet,(and pay up) or else your console loses its greatest feature.
 
[quote name='Thomas96'] This issue is not a "fanboy" issue, to me it's a consumer issue... a MONEY issue. I just find it to be a slap in the face to all the xbox live customers that have paid for live since day 1 and made that business one of the most successful business models in this industry, and to then turn around and raise the price. Why?! because they know they've got their customers by the balls, and they can increase that price and people will have to bite the bullet,(and pay up) or else your console loses its greatest feature.[/QUOTE]

I do agree. And I'm not at all happy about it on principle. Money wise, $10 a year is nothing to me. But it does annoy me that they're raising prices without adding any value to it, while still largely offering things that are freely available on other platforms.

If they're going to raise the price, they need to add value to it. Be it new services, discounts on DLC and XBLA games for gold users vs. silver users etc.
 
as expected, costs rising, ppl at the top of the food chain wanting raises, etc etc. I don't see the need to hoard XBL sub cards though. If you're stocked up for 1-2 years the forecast for something new on the horizon should be coming soon. (but of course if you can get a sweet CAG deal on sub cards, go4it)

As for new services, I got an email today saying there's ESPN, crap, and some other crap added to XBL gold members. I have ESPN on cable...I really don't need it on my 360. This is like WebTV (but infinitely better)...meh

I could easily not play on XBL next year with Diablo 3, SC2, and Old Republic.
 
This freaking blows.

Seriously thinking about using my money towards buying a fightstick on my PS3 instead of paying to play games online on my 360.

Honestly, $40 a year (sale price mind you) is pushing the "value" meter. Great connection or not, $40 is a tough sell.

Sony should up their game and I swear they would get truckloads of converters pissed at Microsoft's price increase. Charge $20-30 a year and provide similar connection service (more dedicated connection) and features (voice chat) and they'll see a dramatic shift in users.

Come on Sony, take advantage of Microsoft's greed!
 
Well I bit the bullet and bought a card for $40 from Walmart. I will most likely take MS up on their $39.99 deal. That would get me to May of 2013 for $80 with what I had left. By then who knows what xbox live will look like. I have been a GOLD member since Jan 2007 and never complained before this so I guess I am not going to start today.
 
[quote name='SINNED']Microsoft announced Xbox Live Gold subscription prices will increase on Nov 1, 2010. 1 Year increases to $59.99, 3 months to $24.99, and 1 month rises to $9.99.[/QUOTE]

This is why I stick to the PC.
 
Could this be a glorified strategy on getting a ton of people signing up for Live this month? Drop the price and state it will raise in a month gets the fear purchases.
 
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