Titanfall is the main reason why I'm interested in the Xbox One, that game made me drool. If they remove the mandatory kinect I will buy both consoles. And you're right about the Xbox one not including a headset, the ps4 does offer one but its just these little earbud things. Better than nothin' I suppose haha. I'm still praying my Trittons will work with the PS4.
It was just funny the particular person who accepted the lifetime achievement award for helping Xbox change their stance. Did Xbox change their minds due to the outcry...oh yes...but this person seemed to be accepting the award...lol.
I just feel bad for people like that. Just like the people who were like, "yeah, now you get to keep your games, you can thank us later!" Who said we wouldn't be able to? It's all speculation isn't it? By the way, the (now gone) digital disc library was supposed to be tied to your account wasn't it? Meaning you could go to a friends house on his Xbox One and you could show him what games you've got and be able to play them. What was to stop MS from making it where you could carry that said library onto the next-gen Xbox (after Xbox One)? Was there absolutely no positive that could have come from this had Microsoft carried on forward? You guys say that these games would never be sold at a sale price similar to Steam, how do you know that though? All this speculating, everyone seems to think the worst of MS. Some of you act like you had the worst experience ever with the Xbox 360.
...Because it's Microsoft. Even when Bill Gates was there it was always Worst Case Scenario with Microsoft.
The problem with digital only is there was still the retail factor involved. If MS truly cares about not undercutting the retailer (lol?) then with the discs still in the store they wouldn't undercut the retailer as much, maybe $10 here and there? We wouldn't see Steam like sales, because Steam doesn't have to worry about retailers at all. They only have to worry about fulfilling the developers and customers needs.
It's a passionate rant, he seems to be missing the point that smaller companies can still put their games out download only, like they do now on PS3/360.
And according to, I believe it was Scott Rohde in the Giant Bomb Audio Dumptruck, the indie titles are capable of setting their own prices like on Steam. So it's reasonable to believe that bigger companies *MAY* have that option as well.
I dont get comments like this. Sony only updated graphics and controller. Guess Gaikai, better indie support, the streaming functions, etc dont count.
I wasnt saying it was new in general. I was saying it was an added benefit the ps3 didnt have. And unlike the XOne, will be a way to access old games to make up for lack of bc.Game sharing on the PS3 is an exploit not a benefit.
We both now get upgraded PS3's and 360's
Microsoft went out on a limb to try and change gaming for the better or for the worse who knows because we were 5 months from ever knowing. At least they tried to change the experience.
And what you said could basically be said for the PS4. Gaikai? Not new. Paid Multiplayer, not new
Of course, it was all about control. For Microsoft, control = defining the market = capitalizing on that financially. If anyone ever believed they were after anything else they're just naive. Microsoft seemingly woke up to some vocal (and pre-orders) market research and decided the longer-term fanancial gains won't mean much if they never get to the long-term because of the short term punishment they were going to be taking.
Yep. I 100% applaud MS for getting rid of the DRM, online check ins etc. But I'm sticking with my PS4 preorder as its $100 less and I hate motion control and voice command stuff so I have no interest in Kinect or it being shoe horned into games once it's packed in. I may gwtnknedown the road after price drops, but only if I start gaming more again as I just don't play enough to own multiple consoles right now.
Why would I feel sorry for boycotting MS? They are still a terrible company who tried to push all these extreme anti-consumer requirements onto us. This boycotting helped lead to these changes we saw yesterday.
I've never understood this argument. That's like saying Walmart can't discount a game because Target will get upset. And the digital version offers less so you could say Microsoft is pricing an inferior product for less. I just don't buy this can't undercut retailers argument. In fact Sony has been pricing digital Vita games $5 cheaper than retail for quite a while now.
There is no reason you shouldn't be able to have all the same features if you purchase a digital copy of the game. In reality they will likely offer these benefits down the line to entice people to buy digital only. Only thing you really lost today was Microsoft having complete control over the market and 24 hour check in. Everything else should be doable on digital content, if not blame it on Microsoft, not everyone who stood up for consumer rights.
Agreed. They're just taking their toys and going home. They could even have the family sharing for digital downloads to ease people into it then if it went over well go all digital next gen.
LOL
Agreed but I wanted to correct one small misconception. Walmart's fastest growing market is China. It also has shown strong growth in Canada, Mexico and UK. So, it's actually doing pretty well overseas. It turns out that people around the globe are much the same.... it's not just us "dumb" Americans.
If MS had seen the error in their ways and changed it's restrictions that would have been one thing. Instead they tried to
gamers over to make more money, and only stopped trying to gamers over when they realized that it was costing them money.ing people over this gen they have still shown that they are liars who want to over thier consumers.
For the first time in a while, I wholeheartedly agree. Choice whether real or perceived would have been the way to go. Everyone gets what they want.
And see they barely talked about any benefits at all. If they had these in the first place, I'd at least think it might be worth the hassles it came with. Aside from family sharing they didn't have these and they barely mentioned it when it was a strong selling point. Again I serious think there needs to be some executive level heads rolling because this was handled so poorly on all ends
Well that was rude. Consumers and the companies that produce the products they purchase do have a relationship of sorts, and your girlfriend analogy is actually a good one. If a company does something you don't like, lies about their products, or otherwise does something to harm that relationship, like in this case MS DRM, you have every right to "break up" with them. If a company does things that benefit you as the consumer then that strengthens the relationship. Even though MS has cancelled their DRM plans they've still damaged the relationship with their consumers, and it will take a lot more than backtracking to completely repair it.
Glad to see some understand my viewpointSeriously, Trust matters between a company and it's customers. It really is that
What's funny is people are finally starting to come out and say that Sony was actually on board with the entire idea.... until they saw the backlash MS got.
Agreed.
