Yes on 8 ads on CAG (WTF!!?)

nathansu

nathansu

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Regardless of your position on this issue, why are Yes on 8 ads appearing on CAG? I know Cheapy has to make some money, but this is really, really a hot-button issue from either side of the fence.

Gaming ads, I don't care about. But IMO this is a bit over the line. Political ads are the LAST thing I want to see on CAG.

For people who don't live in CA : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008)

Screenshot of the ad : http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cagyeson8qv4.jpg

Edit : Screwed up the wikipedia URL.
 
This seems like a poor place for them to spend their advertising money, from what I've seen for the most part gamers tend to be fairly liberal.

Also it would make more sense to put their ads on sites visited mostly by people from California, like newspapers based in California. Most people on this site can't vote on Prop 8.
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']This seems like a poor place for them to spend their advertising money, from what I've seen for the most part gamers tend to be fairly liberal.

Also it would make more sense to put their ads on sites visited mostly by people from California, like newspapers based in California. Most people on this site can't vote on Prop 8.[/quote]

I agree with your point.

My issue is that this is really something you'd probably not want people seeing. Personally, I think Prop 8 is a piece of hate filled legislation that violates the first amendment.

I'm not sure why you'd want to run the risk of alienating people who feel like this.

For the same reasons you would not run a nasty "MCCAIN IS A RACIST BASTARD" ad on here, either.
 
Everyone knows that Cheapy is available to the highest bidder :D

Stop being intolerant. Everyone should be able to express his or her viewpoint.

The Yes on 8 signs are all over OC.
 
[quote name='BigT']Everyone knows that Cheapy is available to the highest bidder :D

Stop being intolerant. Everyone should be able to express his or her viewpoint.[/quote]

My point is that the ad is intolerant to my views (and I'm guessing, the views of quite a few others).

Should we consider putting up KKK ads on CAG too if they are the highest bidder?
 
OH NOES!!!!!!!!!

the reason the ads appear in cag is because we talk about it in cag and google picks up on it. if you care that much email cheapy, im pretty sure he can block ads if he wanted.
 
[quote name='BigT']
The Yes on 8 signs are all over OC.[/quote]

That's quite the different issue.

CAG is a gaming site that I expect to stick to a theme and not insert political propaganda (from ANY side).
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']OH NOES!!!!!!!!!

the reason the ads appear in cag is because we talk about it in cag and google picks up on it. if you care that much email cheapy, im pretty sure he can block ads if he wanted.[/quote]

Naw, I just thought it should be brought to someone's attention.

I'm not sure how the ad system works here, as I've not had experience with running an ad-based site.
 
I never even noticed the sign. I ignore banners by default. If someone put up a no on 8 banner, I would not care.

It's no like the banner is going to change my vote. You shouldn't be so easily offended!
 
I agree. I am ok with the McCain ads on the site that made up lies on crap like clean coal. However Prop 8 is just a hateful fucking thing that shouldn't even be ON the ballot. Yes the ads on this site are not endorsements or anything.....but it does bug me that such hateful rhetoric is what is backing our site. I mean if I recall CheapyD's wife is asian. If there was a proposition to ban interracial marriage something tells me he wouldn't feel so comfortable accepting THAT money.

The one thing I can say in his defense is he might not be politically savy and thus not know whos money he is taking. And Big0T piss off. This isnt a free speach issue nor a intolerance issue. That you even try to imply a propostion as intolerant as prop 8 which you support.....you never never mind. Your a biggot we know already so just give it up and stop trying to pretend its others taking your rights away.
 
Ugh. It's been said numerous times before in other topics, but here it is again:
They are Google Ads, Cheapy has absolutely NO control over their content, nor does he "look for the highest bidder" because he does not deal with banner advertisers.

As pointed out by Rams, all Cheapy can do is forward your complaint to Google Ads and see if they'll remove it from the rotation on CAG.
 
[quote name='homeland']BigT says stop being Intolerant... that would be hilarious if the double standard wasn't so sad.[/quote]

I was going for the perceived irony! Great that you picked up on it :applause:

Any who, I just got one of those ads, it links here:
http://www.protectmarriage.com/ballot/
 
[quote name='nathansu']Naw, I just thought it should be brought to someone's attention.

I'm not sure how the ad system works here, as I've not had experience with running an ad-based site.[/quote]

Again, this is the american people showing signs of weakness... insecurity.. and new levels of sensitivity...

It's a freaking AD.

Do you complain about commericals? And certain previews at movie theaters? Do you complain about radio ads? Or how about newspaper ads?

G-freaking-D...

get over it.

I am glad that CheapyD doesn't make us pay to the site, force us to donate to the site....

There are ways around the ads... and I bet if there is one that irks people, those same people can contact him and he can make the decision to turn down that ad. (Do we need to discuss it.)

Like someone else stated, the ad is generated by the hottest topic, that's why I see McCain ads in every thread that we're discussing about politics.

Hell.. there is a gamer ad, should I complain about that saying it's provoking me to play games, thus ruining my job and suing Cheapy because of me losing my job...

Enough intolerance.... untill you start donating and making us donate to the site, grow to accept the ads... they are afterall mostly automatic and controlled by bots...

/end rant :bouncy:
 
[quote name='Cao Cao']Ugh. It's been said numerous times before in other topics, but here it is again:
They are Google Ads, Cheapy has absolutely NO control over their content, nor does he "look for the highest bidder" because he does not deal with banner advertisers.

As pointed out by Rams, all Cheapy can do is forward your complaint to Google Ads and see if they'll remove it from the rotation on CAG.[/quote]

Google has publicly stated that they are against Prop 8. Do they have no control over their own program or is disallowing this ad against their policies somehow?
 
[quote name='BigT']I never even noticed the sign. I ignore banners by default. If someone put up a no on 8 banner, I would not care.

It's no like the banner is going to change my vote. You shouldn't be so easily offended![/quote]

So should I be offended at KKK signs? Myself (as well as many others) perceive it in the exact same way.

It's the same thing as saying interracial couples can't marry, which I'd argue, most people think is absolute rubbish. Would people not freak out if that were on the site?
 
[quote name='Cao Cao']Ugh. It's been said numerous times before in other topics, but here it is again:
They are Google Ads, Cheapy has absolutely NO control over their content, nor does he "look for the highest bidder" because he does not deal with banner advertisers.

As pointed out by Rams, all Cheapy can do is forward your complaint to Google Ads and see if they'll remove it from the rotation on CAG.[/quote]

I never knew that. Again, I'm not attempting to blame anyone for this. All I'm saying is that it's offensive. Why?

Anything suggesting any group of people should not be treated fairly with respect to the law is unconstitutional.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I agree. I am ok with the McCain ads on the site that made up lies on crap like clean coal. However Prop 8 is just a hateful fucking thing that shouldn't even be ON the ballot. Yes the ads on this site are not endorsements or anything.....but it does bug me that such hateful rhetoric is what is backing our site. I mean if I recall CheapyD's wife is asian. If there was a proposition to ban interracial marriage something tells me he wouldn't feel so comfortable accepting THAT money.

The one thing I can say in his defense is he might not be politically savy and thus not know whos money he is taking. And Big0T piss off. This isnt a free speach issue nor a intolerance issue. That you even try to imply a propostion as intolerant as prop 8 which you support.....you never never mind. Your a biggot we know already so just give it up and stop trying to pretend its others taking your rights away.[/quote]

QFT.
 
I think it's a google ad, in which case it's just in a rotation and not something Cheapy directly accepted money for. It just popped up in the rotation as there is a thread on Proposition 8 here so the google system noticed that and put the add in this site's rotation.
 
[quote name='xycury']Can someone triple post some more?

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/sendmessage.php

Send a message, tell them you're offended and ask if he can do anything.

Other sites have requested to not be given those type of ads, but it depends on who's serving it.

/end thread[/quote]

Someone has their panties in a knot.

I simply thought I'd bring it up. Apparently I'm not the only one who finds this disturbing.
 
There is a simple and easy way to fix your problem op...Dont look at them, lol but seriously if you are soo against something dont look at it and get your ass out and vote against it! It sickens me that we would propose against something like that. Saying that we should be allowed to run kkk ads too is alittle far fetched, like a hate crime is the same as a marriage proposal, you my friend are very confused about that. I feel really bad for some people and their views, but to each his own.
 
[quote name='smarkbran']There is a simple and easy way to fix your problem op...Dont look at them, lol but seriously if you are soo against something dont look at it and get your ass out and vote against it! It sickens me that we would propose against something like that. Saying that we should be allowed to run kkk ads too is alittle far fetched, like a hate crime is the same as a marriage proposal, you my friend are very confused about that. I feel really bad for some people and their views, but to each his own.[/quote]

The KKK analogy is one that stands up pretty well. The legislation is hateful against one group of individuals. The KKK does not happen to like anything but "white" people. Both groups represent hatred towards one group/multiple groups of people, as would any ads from those groups.

Not having an ad blocker on this machine FTL, I guess.
 
[quote name='nathansu']The KKK analogy is one that stands up pretty well. The legislation is hateful against one group of individuals. The KKK does not happen to like anything but "white" people. Both groups represent hatred towards one group/multiple groups of people, as would any ads from those groups.

Not having an ad blocker on this machine FTL, I guess.[/quote]

So please tell me you've already sent a message.....

discussing it more is worthless... since everyone in this thread technically can't do anything about it. Even the mods can't... only CheapyD, he's the admin of these forums/website.
 
[quote name='xycury']So please tell me you've already sent a message.....

discussing it more is worthless... since everyone in this thread technically can't do anything about it. Even the mods can't... only CheapyD, he's the admin of these forums/website.[/quote]

There's really no point, they'll stop running tomorrow.

Discussing it is certainly not pointless.
 
Complain?

Do you bitchy little pussies turn of the TV when you see a McCain ad?

Get over it and either ignore the ads or turn of the computer. Honestly, there are worse things in life that can happen to you\ than being offended by a random internet ad. fuck.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Complain?

Do you bitchy little pussies turn of the TV when you see a McCain ad?

Get over it and either ignore the ads or turn of the computer. Honestly, there are worse things in life that can happen to you\ than being offended by a random internet ad. fuck.[/quote]

Another missing the point completely.
 
[quote name='nathansu']Another missing the point completely.[/quote]
He does that quite often :roll:. Its a moot point though it will be over in a day.
 
[quote name='nathansu']Another missing the point completely.[/QUOTE]

That seems to happan alot around here. Thrust, stony, bmullligan, brolly. Lot of grumpy old guys who when things arnt their way....ya
 
OP this ain't so bad, it may even help you in the end.

I don't put it past a few Joe Sixpacks to vote yes just because they don't realize this is effectively a gay marriage ban. There may be a sizable amount of "low information" voters out there who vote yes because they think it's a nothing amendment.

The ad is highlighting the fact that this amendment is part of the religious rights push to ban anything they think their Christian Bibles forbid. I doubt it's going to sway any minds and it might just wake someone up.
 
[quote name='nathansu']There's really no point, they'll stop running tomorrow.

Discussing it is certainly not pointless.[/quote]

So are you stating that this discussion has no point?

Seriously write to CheapyD and state this. There is nothing you can do about it, that shouldn't be discussed in the 100s of page thread already.

I don't see in bringing it up, yet doing nothing about it, yet still wanting to discuss about it...

..then someone must ask, WHY bring it up?

Besides playing the WTF card... really?

Like many have said, it's not Cheapy agreeing to have these ads, it's the google bot polling the threads, and seeing what's being discussed and posting an ad closest to what's there.... or being relative to what's being discussed.

I'm thinking that this should have just been tagged onto the thread since anything that's left is specifically discussing about Prop 8.

[quote name='camoor']OP this ain't so bad, it may even help you in the end.

I don't put it past a few Joe Sixpacks to vote yes just because they don't realize this is effectively a gay marriage ban. There may be a sizable amount of "low information" voters out there who vote yes because they think it's a nothing amendment.

The ad is highlighting the fact that this amendment is part of the religious rights push to ban anything they think their Christian Bibles forbid. I doubt it's going to sway any minds and it might just wake someone up.[/quote]

I agree, but who hasn't seen the other thread pop up...

though informed voters are better than the opposite.
 
I'm not sure whats going on but the ad itself is a lie.. Obama pull support for prop 8.. awhile ago all the way back in July.. what worries me isnt that its on this site or not.. its that cheap ass gamers running lies and getting paid for it. i love the show love the website.. and im kinda hope'n he just doesn't know about it. ... and someone else sold this ad package
 
No offense xycury, but it is worth bringing up. I for one appreciate this being brought to attention. I don't like ads in general, I understand they are a necessary evil, but that's not even advertising, that's Click here for Ignorance and Homophobia.
CAG really doesn't need that rep.
 
[quote name='carpwrist']No offense xycury, but it is worth bringing up. I for one appreciate this being brought to attention. I don't like ads in general, I understand they are a necessary evil, but that's not even advertising, that's Click here for Ignorance and Homophobia.
CAG really doesn't need that rep.[/quote]

I still don't agree.

It's worth notifying, but not worth to discuss it, since all the ads are generated by what we're typing, run by google bots, sold for wordspace and poof, we have a stupid ad.

Cheapy can tell the agency that he runs with, google, to stop it. SOMEONE NEEDS TO TELL HIM.

Discussing it is like saying someone should stop that meteor from impacting the earth and no one doing anything about it. Ok or worse yet... watching someone get hit by a car, and watching them die on the street, you calling your friend and talking about it, and you NOT contacting for help (police, ambulance).

Again, there is a link at the bottom, contact us. Cheapy can probably pull it in less than a few hours.

Gamers Inc. had the same issue with racey ads to skin sites and selling in game gold, which one short email to the admin and they are gone.

I'll repeat... if no one says anything and we're just talking about, nothing will get done.

Ads are automatic, and I don't know if cheapy can say only advertise gaming stuff... since the bots will pull anything.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']So, um... How many of you would be posting here or give a shit if it said vote No?[/quote]

ha good twist... I would care if I cared about having ads not totally related to the site...

but then I would DO something about it, instead of just "discussing" it.
 
[quote name='cochesecochese']If he noticed it of his own accord or if someone e-mailed him about it, yes.[/quote]

I would assume if anyone had an issue with an ad and found it offensive, he would equally do the same.
 
As do I. The point I was trying to make is that generally Cheapy can't be everywhere at all times on the boards. I'm sure he reads a lot of threads but he can't read them all.

If someone has a problem with the ads all they need to do is e-mail him or PM one of the moderators and it will be addressed rapidly.
 
[quote name='cochesecochese']As do I. The point I was trying to make is that generally Cheapy can't be everywhere at all times on the boards. I'm sure he reads a lot of threads but he can't read them all.

If someone has a problem with the ads all they need to do is e-mail him or PM one of the moderators and it will be addressed rapidly.[/quote]

yeah Cheapy is like what, 14 hours in the future... so him getting to it will take some time.

not like there are sirens and lights go off as soon as a person reports a problem...

I thought after all the whining, I'd have to report it, because no one stated that they actually did, which pissed me off... whine but do nothing about it.
 
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