[quote name='MorPhiend'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='MorPhiend'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='MorPhiend'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='msdmoney'][quote name='MrBadExample']What's truly sad is that most of these students scored better than Dubya would have.[/quote]
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='javeryh']Most high school students are dumbasses.[/quote]
Most (51%) of Americans are dumbasses. Look in the whitehouse if you don't believe me.[/quote]
What do either of these have to do with the discussion about high school students....
answer=nothing.[/quote]
So naive, I blame "no child left behind".
However, I guess ignorance is bliss...[/quote]
Yes, you are right. Not a single dem supported the measure and this nations youth were 100% enrolled in MENSA, then this Act came along and they all became retarded.
Hello, I'm from reality. Where do you live???
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You're inferring that "no child left behind" was a bipartisan bill and that students were better off after it was enacted? Sounds like somebody's been sniffing too much elmer's glue...[/quote]
I never said that. You are still not comprehending reality. What I think about the bill has nothing to do with it, so I won't go in that direction. You said that the topic is completely to be blamed on NCLB and that everyone who doesn't believe as you do (making them ignorant) is wrong. That is wholely erroneous! There is no way that children were way intelligent, then the bill was passed and they suddenly, in mass, became stupid. That is your "arguement!" Look at the people you quoted! Then you said that you blame it all on NCLB! That is saying that before they were not so stupid, but now they suddenly became so! I never stated my opinion, and you have no right telling me what I was inferring or believing. But you're statements say exactly what I am talking about. The NCLB Act
did not make our youth stupid!
My point (and msdmoney's) has not been to argue one side or the other, but to say that a few of you are talking about the wrong thing in the wrong forum. So if you (camoor) and Mr Bad Example want to start a thread devoted to your hatred of someone, something, whatever, go do it. But stop your thread crapping. Your posts have nothing to do with the "study." I don't have to read your thread, but I was wanting to hear a healthy discussion on the topic, and you are making it hard to do so.[/quote]
First of all, you started the accusations. The "NCLB" comment was a joke, but I see it went way over your head. Yes, the NCLB is a bad act of law. No, it did not directly cause HS students to place less importance on their constitutinal-guaranteed civil rights.
Second, I do not hate, I am just pointing to some of the culprits responsible for this sad finding.
This topic was about the decreased importance high schoolers attribute to civil rights, and it is my theory that this is directly related to the Bush campaign of fear. The Bush administration played off of people's fears (drummed into their heads by seeing the plane crash into the building over and over and over) by grabbing more governmental power (Patriot act) and misleading the people into unwittingly adopting the neocon agenda (relating WMDs/unrelated terrorist groups to the Iraq war). These HS students are just ceding more power into the hands of a very secretive, power-hungry, "we know best" government because of their fear of terrorism and ignorance of the rest of the world (the ignorance can be partially blamed on education, especially when things like creationism are being taught as science in schools...).[/quote]
He started it!!! waaaaaaaaa!!!!
Actually, if you want to be a childish baby, first you called Americans dumb (accusation), then you called Bush dumb (accusation), then a good-intentioned person tries to steer the thread back on topic and you call him ignorant (accusation) and say that the NCLBA caused stupidity throughout America (accusation). I hadn't even said anything at this point! So then I just was a little sarcastic and said that what you're "reasoning" was is not an accurate arguement (that's not an accusation, just a fact - as you would probably agree, seeing as you are no longer standing behind it and have now said that it was a joke). Then you say something to me about what
I believe, which cannot even be found in what I said (another accusation). That's when I finally let loose.
Point 2: NCLBA was a joke? Why defend it then until you see that it is a falacy, and retract? Not even a point to address.
Finally, you address something that could
possibly be a semi-valid point, but your lack of rationale up to this point doesn't lend you any credibility in someone trying to have a civilized conversation with you from here on out.
Let's stop the off-topic bomb throwing and let's stay on topic and be civilized, people.[/quote]
Thank you lord of the thread.
I'll continue to voice my opinion on the cause of this culture of fear and ignorance. It's my
opinion, if you see it as an accusation, so be it. However this is the internet, so feel free to throw all the insults and useless whining at me that you have.
BTW, it was a joke. Take your own advice and get over it already (you'll catch the next one, you can do it!
)
