[quote name='bmulligan']I'd love to gather as many of my rich friends together and get in a pissing contest with all of the idealistic hippy-college students wannabees on this board to see how philanthropic each group is.
Not only would my friends win on sheer tax payments alone, as they probably pay more in taxes than you make in a year. But in addition, they have probably given 100x more time, money, and effort into charity causes than you have while you play videogames.
Perpetuating the myth that the wealthy, or rich, or over-privlidged, or whatever derogatory term you want to imply, are miserly and uncaring is an ignorant endeavor, or a purposefully disingenuous one.
For every 1 prick-headded scrooge I know, there are 10 who volunteer at a church to feed those poor, poor people. Or provide needy children with clothing, or new winter boots, or choose to adopt a family for christmas, or give $1000 checks to toys for tots, or scholarship funds, or decide to volunteer for the local food drive, blood drive, march of dimes, United way, Chlidren's hospital, or a myriad of other worthy causes.
I'll wager that 99% of the self-proclaimed 'compassionate liberals' on this board have done nothing for someone other than themselves except post on some gaming board how generous they'd will be with other people's money. Because for every 1 prick-headded jerk who thinks the world needs to be changed to force people into their own level of pseudo-self-sacrifice, there are 98 other idealistically inept imbeciles lining up behind him with a protest banner and slogan. Only 1 out of that hundred is actually humble enough to be doing something charitable instead of professing it.[/QUOTE]
*rolls his eyes*
I love how every far righter always thinkings first off that we are all hippie college students. A lot of us are moderate here it just doesnt come across that way with dealing with people like you, brolly and thrust(who may not be far right but is boarder line insane when it comes to philosphy vs reality). I also love how you all insist you know so many people that are rich and give away sooooo much money. I live in freaking Rossford Ohio which is an EXTREAMLY well to do area. There are gated communities all around my apartments and multi million dollar homes on river real estate. When I volunteer at Food Gathers, a hospice or the YMCA I NEVER see these people. The people I see are a few church goers whose church is working with us or college students and every day Joe Schmoes.
Then there is my mother worked for the charity wing of a college and she time and time again griped about how hard it was to get the upper class to chip in vs getting the middle class. Then there are my rich aunts and uncles and those on my fiancees side of the family. People that give just enough to get a tax break but heaven forbid they give up buying that HDTV for their

ing bathroom. I mean seriously its not enough to have one in your bar room, living room, downstairs living room, game room and kitchen(not shitting you my Aunt really has all this). O and then I forgot about my fiancees friends from work. Her boss, the CEO of the company, she knows many of them from being a temp and has been invited to their house numerous times as well as handled paper work for them. Least freaking charitable people I know, only one of them that gives anything is the one that goes to church and only because his wife makes him(he has openly said he would rather be reinvesting it into stocks, I argue with this guy non stop at most work events).
Seriously where do you live that rich people give their money to charity? And what type of rich people and money are we talking about? My guess is again its either people that as you said are working with churches(which is always good, but at the same time sad that it takes church to get them to do anything)or Oprah givers which are people that give, but hardly give much when you look at their bottom line. I am sure this will get a response from you whining about ooo its not enough to give a mill you have to give half your net worth. Save it, its disgusting that people even think this way. Your right they do give more then me in my fiancee probally will in our life time. But what should matter is that we living off a measly $36k a year(and before this year it was more like $25k)still give and give and as we go up I will always make sure we are giving not till it hurts, but enough that we aint sitting high on the hog.
Its disgusting that we are even debating this.
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