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#511 sp00ge   Hey guys, I'm a turd! CAGiversary!   11453 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

Posted 11 September 2011 - 08:39 PM

Lemme ask you amazon sellers a question

Are you actually able to leave buyers feedback?

I've never seen a single option to leave them feedback but the way some of you guys are talking it sounds like you're supposed to be able to. I sell on the Canada website so maybe this is for whatever reason some function that site doesn't have?


If you go into the order details, down on the bottom right of the page is a button that says "Leave Buyer Feedback"


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#512 darkstarripclaw   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   147 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 08:44 PM

Doesn't seem to be something the amazon.ca marketplace system has then :/

#513 Coolzell   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   37 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 06:21 PM

I sent that xbox to the guy who asked me to send it to another address. He used a different account and I sent it to the address listed. Now the asshole is saying the xbox is scuffed and scratched and he wants a partial refund if I have insurance on the item or a full refund. nyx102 and saabgripeniv

#514 Pliskin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3270 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

Posted 17 September 2011 - 07:09 PM

I sent that xbox to the guy who asked me to send it to another address. He used a different account and I sent it to the address listed. Now the asshole is saying the xbox is scuffed and scratched and he wants a partial refund if I have insurance on the item or a full refund. nyx102 and saabgripeniv


Never send the item if they ask you to send it to a different address. There's a 99% chance their trying to scam you somehow. And you will probably lose a dispute if they file one.

#515 Coolzell   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   37 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 09:16 PM

So then what do I pay ebay back the 147 + 15 shipping. I JUST started doing this and already got screwed. Probably should just quit if it's this bad after only 5 sells its not worth it.

#516 Coolzell   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   37 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 09:20 PM

Oh and I didnt send it to another address I ended the item and relisted it to him and this time he put the correct address.

#517 twiceborn   Say What?! CAGiversary!   877 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

Posted 17 September 2011 - 09:43 PM

I sent that xbox to the guy who asked me to send it to another address. He used a different account and I sent it to the address listed. Now the asshole is saying the xbox is scuffed and scratched and he wants a partial refund if I have insurance on the item or a full refund. nyx102 and saabgripeniv



Asking fro a partial refund is a major red flag. Guys like this target new sellers and intimidate them into full or partial refunds.

If I was you, I'd tell him I don't do partial refunds, but he can return it if he'd like for a full refund upon receiving the xbox. He might say to hell with it and leave you alone or he could up the ante and send you an old pair of sneakers and claim it's the xbox.

Given how ebay caters to the buyer, it's fairly difficult to not get scammed by a motivated, experienced and knowledgeable scammer. But at least you can make it difficult for them.

Since you've only done five transactions so far, you can always create a new selling account should he leave you negative feedback.

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#518 Pliskin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3270 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

Posted 17 September 2011 - 11:53 PM

So then what do I pay ebay back the 147 + 15 shipping. I JUST started doing this and already got screwed. Probably should just quit if it's this bad after only 5 sells its not worth it.



Just tell the buyer you don't except returns. If he files a dispute with ebay and wins (which he probably will since ebay mostly sides with the buyer) you're suppose to refund him and he's suppose to send you back the xbox. But like twiceborn said he can literally send you a pile of rocks in a box and ebay can't do anything. So you lose your xbox and your money. I've been shying away from ebay the last few months because of stuff like this. Good luck to you.

#519 Coolzell   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   37 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 September 2011 - 01:56 AM

I'm hoping that Ebay slaps him down because he didn't say the xbox didn't work he simply said it was "Scratched and scuffed". Its a lie but even if he says it was scratched will ebay really side with him over a used product. Also he threatened to leave me bad feedback lets see if they take it into consideration. What website do you guys recommend for sellers since ebay wants to act like they don't have any obligation to sellers.

#520 te619   Coldshadow CAGiversary!   207 Posts   Joined 5.1 Years Ago  

Posted 18 September 2011 - 12:00 PM

Anyone selling codes on Ebay beware of wajid91121.

This loser bought Xbox codes, and asked to have them texted (yes I know not to send codes electronically). Then followed the request with a dispute.

I know it happens, and I didn't lose anything. I just wanted to let others know to watch out for him in case he doesn't get banned.

#521 twiceborn   Say What?! CAGiversary!   877 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

Posted 18 September 2011 - 05:59 PM

I'm hoping that Ebay slaps him down because he didn't say the xbox didn't work he simply said it was "Scratched and scuffed". Its a lie but even if he says it was scratched will ebay really side with him over a used product. Also he threatened to leave me bad feedback lets see if they take it into consideration. What website do you guys recommend for sellers since ebay wants to act like they don't have any obligation to sellers.


Unfortunately scratched and scuffed can go against you in a dispute. But since he threatened to leave you bad feedback if you don't give him a partial refund, there is a specific ebay policy prohibiting this. So he pretty much sunk his own ship there.

http://pages.ebay.co...-extortion.html



Anyone selling codes on Ebay beware of wajid91121.

This loser bought Xbox codes, and asked to have them texted (yes I know not to send codes electronically). Then followed the request with a dispute.

I know it happens, and I didn't lose anything. I just wanted to let others know to watch out for him in case he doesn't get banned.



I think it's very clear this guy is a scammer. I mean he has a brand new account created on 9-17-11 with no feedback. And the first thing he does is file a dispute on his first purchase?

Even ebay should be able to tell immediately what this guy is about.

"When I die, I want to go just like my grandpa, peacefully and in my sleep,... not kicking and screaming like all of his passengers."

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#522 Indigo_Streetlight   East Coast Scum CAGiversary!   3538 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 September 2011 - 06:25 PM

I'm hoping that Ebay slaps him down because he didn't say the xbox didn't work he simply said it was "Scratched and scuffed". Its a lie but even if he says it was scratched will ebay really side with him over a used product. Also he threatened to leave me bad feedback lets see if they take it into consideration. What website do you guys recommend for sellers since ebay wants to act like they don't have any obligation to sellers.


If you do have insurance through USPS you can really screw with the guy by saying, "Alright, your claim has been opened but according to USPS policy # blah-blah-blah you may be required to mail them the evidence or your claim will be denied." This way it isn't your word against his if he mails back an old pair of shoes :D
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#523 Coolzell   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   37 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 September 2011 - 10:00 PM

When he does mail me some garbage (he will) and I have the feeling he will win regardless. I'll just record me opening the box putting it on youtube give him the link and telling him I'm going to court.

#524 Coolzell   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   37 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 10:18 AM

Ebay sided them him. Is it that easy that someone can just say its damaged and send books?

#525 sp00ge   Hey guys, I'm a turd! CAGiversary!   11453 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

Posted 20 September 2011 - 12:15 PM

Ebay sided them him. Is it that easy that someone can just say its damaged and send books?


It may also be possible that he is sending you a broken system, different from the one you sent.

I always make a habit of logging the serial numbers of any consoles I sell, and any other high price items get an inconspicuous mark with a UV pen.

Earlier this year, I almost got burned on a $40 DVD. Girl ordered it, I sent it and a few days later I get an email saying that she ordered the wrong one. She returns it and I only opened the case just to check to make sure the disc was in there. I relisted it and it sold a week later. Fortunately, I double check all of our discs before shipping and holy crap was this disc scratched to hell. Definitely not the DVD I mailed her.

She basically used me to swap out her damaged disc for a nice minty one, for the cost of shipping. Luckily, it was all surface damage, so I was able to buff almost all of the scratches off. Since then, I've been marking my expensive discs with a UV pen


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#526 Coolzell   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   37 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 01:46 AM

This is my plan as sad as it is. If it isn't the xbox I said it was and it doesn't work or it's some random items I'll let my paypal sit in a negative balance and move away from ebay entirely. If it really mine and the guy changed his mind I'll no longer sell big items like that online but stick to C.list and locally. Whats wrong with people they scam and make your life harder then it has to be for no reason, but when bad things happen to them they wonder why. Would marking things even work? If they can send you random items and ebay/paypal believes them, what would marking them do?

#527 elmyra   King of the Road CAGiversary!   1141 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 September 2011 - 09:34 AM

It may also be possible that he is sending you a broken system, different from the one you sent.

I always make a habit of logging the serial numbers of any consoles I sell, and any other high price items get an inconspicuous mark with a UV pen.

Earlier this year, I almost got burned on a $40 DVD. Girl ordered it, I sent it and a few days later I get an email saying that she ordered the wrong one. She returns it and I only opened the case just to check to make sure the disc was in there. I relisted it and it sold a week later. Fortunately, I double check all of our discs before shipping and holy crap was this disc scratched to hell. Definitely not the DVD I mailed her.

She basically used me to swap out her damaged disc for a nice minty one, for the cost of shipping. Luckily, it was all surface damage, so I was able to buff almost all of the scratches off. Since then, I've been marking my expensive discs with a UV pen


Has anyone ever done this and had it help? I mean, even if you mark a disc with a UV pen or record the serial number of an Xbox, it's still going to be your word against the buyer's when they ship it back. Everything I've read indicates that eBay only looks at whether the buyer provides a DC number showing a package was shipped back to you. Supposedly when a seller claims fraud they just say that they have no way of verifying the seller's proof.

#528 sp00ge   Hey guys, I'm a turd! CAGiversary!   11453 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

Posted 21 September 2011 - 12:03 PM

Has anyone ever done this and had it help? I mean, even if you mark a disc with a UV pen or record the serial number of an Xbox, it's still going to be your word against the buyer's when they ship it back. Everything I've read indicates that eBay only looks at whether the buyer provides a DC number showing a package was shipped back to you. Supposedly when a seller claims fraud they just say that they have no way of verifying the seller's proof.


With Amazon, it may hold up as they do tend to investigate both sides of an issue, especially with established Pro Merchants. eBay, I don't know, as I rarely sell on eBay anymore. But be it my word against theirs, I have no regrets about calling a person out as a scammer, since I have proof for myself.

A plus side to selling on Amazon is you can still leave negative feedback for buyers.


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#529 elmyra   King of the Road CAGiversary!   1141 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:56 AM

With Amazon, it may hold up as they do tend to investigate both sides of an issue, especially with established Pro Merchants. eBay, I don't know, as I rarely sell on eBay anymore. But be it my word against theirs, I have no regrets about calling a person out as a scammer, since I have proof for myself.

A plus side to selling on Amazon is you can still leave negative feedback for buyers.


That's interesting - I've heard some bad things about selling on Amazon, but it's a point in their favor if they actually listen to both sides in a dispute.

#530 slowdive21   PUT SOME RESPECK ON MY NAME CAGiversary!   12145 Posts   Joined 10.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:34 PM

You can always call paypal/ebay and talk to them, even if they ruled against you. There is an auto ruling in the buyer's favor if they answer the questions in a certain way. People loose disputes because they don't bother following up with a live person.

#531 kklems   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1680 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 27 September 2011 - 04:16 AM

New half.com address to watch out for

Robert Blazina
9 Fremont St
Tonawanda, NY 14150

0 feedback NARU user, New release VG, Priority mail etc.

#532 ShadowSx   Why so serious? CAGiversary!   1234 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

Posted 08 October 2011 - 12:56 AM

This person tried to pull a scam attempt on ebay.

Buyer ID: iamownij (email: s_q_u_i_r_k@yahoo.com)
Shipping Address:

Chris Morse
1849 N Calhoun Rd
Nixa MO 65714-8357
United States

or

Chris Morse
241 S. Fort St
Nixa MO 65721
United States

Avoid this person like the plague, read the whole fiasco here http://www.cheapassg...ad.php?t=304104

#533 lutz   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1086 Posts   Joined 10.9 Years Ago  

Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:51 PM

This maybe an isolated incident, but I got hit on Amazon a while back. Thought they were a reputable buyer since some CAGs seem to like the place. Basically they returned a new, factory sealed game in horrible condition. The game was suspiciously beat up and dirty in the minty clean case. The manual was all mangled as well (dirty used mangled, not a jammed in the machine kind of mangle).

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#534 Link927   Work In Progress CAGiversary!   3803 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:16 PM

I just got an email from half regarding a buyer who closed their account the day after I shipped out an item. I'm going to try to go to the po and see if they can stop shipment to the "buyer".

Nothing to see here, move along!


#535 Link927   Work In Progress CAGiversary!   3803 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

Posted 04 November 2011 - 05:50 PM

Well, I contact the PO and they said they would try to contact the postmatster for me on the recipient's side and try to have the mail recalled. I cant believe I fell for a scammer, hopefully it works out well.

Does anyone have experience with how half will handle the payment? Will they pay me out then charge me on my CC or just cancel the portion of the payment that was the scammers?

Nothing to see here, move along!


#536 slowdive21   PUT SOME RESPECK ON MY NAME CAGiversary!   12145 Posts   Joined 10.0 Years Ago  

slowdive21

Posted 04 November 2011 - 05:58 PM

Well, I contact the PO and they said they would try to contact the postmatster for me on the recipient's side and try to have the mail recalled. I cant believe I fell for a scammer, hopefully it works out well.

Does anyone have experience with how half will handle the payment? Will they pay me out then charge me on my CC or just cancel the portion of the payment that was the scammers?


If you have DC, I wouldn't do anything other than try to recall the package. If half takes the money back they will take it back out of your bank account. Most likely you will be able to keep the money, unless you report to half that you received the package back.

#537 Link927   Work In Progress CAGiversary!   3803 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

Posted 04 November 2011 - 06:23 PM

If you have DC, I wouldn't do anything other than try to recall the package. If half takes the money back they will take it back out of your bank account. Most likely you will be able to keep the money, unless you report to half that you received the package back.


Thanks. I'll just wait and see I guess. The game was sent on the 2nd with Priority, but my dc number reports that its still in transit as of yesterday when filed the form. I'm just hoping that it'll be intercepted in time.

Nothing to see here, move along!


#538 Link927   Work In Progress CAGiversary!   3803 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

Posted 05 November 2011 - 06:47 PM

Looks like the mail recall didnt go through or wasnt caught by the postmaster over there, looks like my game is out for delivery. Lets see how half handles this now...

Nothing to see here, move along!


#539 donut   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3918 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:00 AM

Anyone selling codes on Ebay beware of wajid91121.

This loser bought Xbox codes, and asked to have them texted (yes I know not to send codes electronically). Then followed the request with a dispute.

I know it happens, and I didn't lose anything. I just wanted to let others know to watch out for him in case he doesn't get banned.



Please post their name and address.
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#540 DefeatUForever   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   520 Posts   Joined 7.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 02:18 AM

I haven't read this whole thread and I don't know if this has been talked about before in here but this is what I do on ebay. I block buyers that have under 100 feedback, and also block a few other of things on this link. I highly, highly recommend doing the same thing. It saves a lot of time and hassle.

http://pages.ebay.co...quirements.html