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#3721 davisdj   CAG for life CAGiversary!   384 Posts   Joined 8.1 Years Ago  

Posted 12 April 2016 - 10:52 PM

Hello guys, I am building my first PC & here are the specs/parts. Disregard the total (after some deals etc I have paid $580 total). I just need to purchase Windows 10. Please advise where I can find it as cheap as possible. Thanks! I'm excited to get building.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bnd723
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....23/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($38.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Toshiba P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB NITRO Dual-X OC Video Card ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($17.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($85.49 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($248.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech Solar Keyboard K750 for Mac Wireless Slim Keyboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $966.18

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#3722 Syntax Error   Art School Dropout CAGiversary!   7342 Posts   Joined 4.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 April 2016 - 04:23 PM

"As cheap as possible"?  There's some Reddit group that trafficks in cheap Windows keys.  I'm not being coy in not mentioning the name, I just don't know it off the top of my head.  But they supposedly have the sellers locked down to some trusted people so it beats buying it off eBay or Craigslist or something.



#3723 davisdj   CAG for life CAGiversary!   384 Posts   Joined 8.1 Years Ago  

Posted 14 April 2016 - 02:36 AM



"As cheap as possible"?  There's some Reddit group that trafficks in cheap Windows keys.  I'm not being coy in not mentioning the name, I just don't know it off the top of my head.  But they supposedly have the sellers locked down to some trusted people so it beats buying it off eBay or Craigslist or something.

Thanks, I was able to get Best Buy to price match a OEM copy of Windows 10 for the full retail version of 10.  :D/

 

Here is the finalized build.

 


 
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (Purchased For $180.00) 
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (Purchased For $25.00) 
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $60.00) 
Storage: Toshiba P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $40.00) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB NITRO Dual-X OC Video Card  (Purchased For $175.00) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $45.00) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $20.00) 
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  (Purchased For $15.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB (32/64-bit)  (Purchased For $90.00) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  (Purchased For $130.00) 
Total: $845.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-13 22:34 EDT-0400

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#3724 hostyl1   Rejoice commoners! CAGiversary!   2215 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2016 - 02:18 AM

So I have 8GB of ram (2x4GB dual channel). I want to step up to at least 16GB. What is the best way to do this? Should I get another matched set of 2x4GB (matched to each other not matched to the original pair), just get an extra single 8GB stick, or is it really best to just eat the cost and get a 16GB set?

BTW, would Bad Things Happen ™ if I put a 2x8GB set in the second channel along side by existing 2x4GB set (and yes, I know I'd have to account for speeds timings yada, yada, yada)?



#3725 elessar123  

Posted 20 April 2016 - 03:45 AM

Just get another matched set of 2x4GB. Dual channel has been shown to do jack squat.


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#3726 thenexus6   more human than human CAGiversary!   2186 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 11:26 AM

I asked on the PC build thread on neogaf, figured i'd ask here too..

 

My friend is extremely close to pulling the trigger on a new build. He wants a build for gaming, video editing / after effects / VR. His budget is upto £1000.

 

Now the biggest thing is the GPU.. With new cards on the horizon I guess its better for him to buy a stop gap card and wait and see how the new cards unfold right? Even then stuff like the 980 or TI will drop in price. What card would be good as a wait and see option? Something cheap like a 750TIi or 950?

 

He really wants to get into VR but I feel like the 980 tier is too expensive, and the 970 might not be good enough to run VR games 100% well..

 

Here are some parts that've been put together: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Bt9QCJ

 

Anything else to consider? Thanks!


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#3727 elessar123  

Posted 27 April 2016 - 05:54 PM

Why 3x 1 TB caviar blues? What's the intended purpose? If it's for RAIDing, Blue seems like a weird choice. If it's for storage, 3x 1 TB is a weird choice.

 

I'd pick one larger drive if it's for storage, or larger SSD if it's for RAIDing.

 

I don't know if 32 GB RAM helps much with video editing, but RAM used to matter a whole lot with video editing. I don't know if there's diminishing returns when it's that large already.

 

I think the 760 is the best bang for the buck GeForce card; better than the 950 at a similar price point.


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#3728 Jess Stryker   Boosting My APM CAGiversary!   4054 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 02:37 AM

Posted this on Reddit, but figured I'd get some more opinions here as well.

 

As a first time PC builder, I just put this together tonight. I think it looks solid, but would like an extra set of eyes on it.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7MHRGf

 

Main goal with the PC is to be able to record gameplay footage via an Elgato capture card along with some minor editing (at least starting off). The specs seem a bit overkill for what the Elgato itself requires, but figured I'd be able to do some light PC gaming on the side as well for when some indies and such don't come over to consoles.

 

Not sure if I should add a second fan to the case or not. I'm under the belief that since I don't plan on overclocking and there's plenty of space in the case, I should be good on that front.

 

Edit: Replaced the link with a new one suggested by one of the guys on Reddit. Close to the original build but improves the CPU and PSU at the cost of the GPU. Granted, the Sapphire was probably overkill.


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#3729 INMATEofARKHAM   Looking for my padded cell CAGiversary!   3657 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 08:24 AM

Frankly, since your not over clocking anything or doing high end editing/gaming an aftermarket CPU fan is overkill. OEM should be fine.

#3730 Jess Stryker   Boosting My APM CAGiversary!   4054 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 12:26 PM

Frankly, since your not over clocking anything or doing high end editing/gaming an aftermarket CPU fan is overkill. OEM should be fine.

I was under the impression OEM was fine as well, but that was one of the suggestions from Reddit. Since it's only $25, I'd think protecting the CPU might be worth it?

 

If I stick with the OEM and decide to upgrade the fan later, how much trouble is it to replace? Seems like it could be messy with the removal and reapplying of thermal paste?


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#3731 INMATEofARKHAM   Looking for my padded cell CAGiversary!   3657 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 02:38 PM

If I stick with the OEM and decide to upgrade the fan later, how much trouble is it to replace? Seems like it could be messy with the removal and reapplying of thermal paste?

It's really not that much trouble... Granted, I've been around the insides of PC since 1997. I use to troubleshoot (hardware and software) PCs for the Navy and I've only seen once were an aftermarket CPU cooler was needed on a stock machine. 1000s of machines so the odds are you'll be just fine.

Every PC I've ever owned (built them all myself) has had a stock cooler. Intel/AMD wouldn't be doing themselves any favors by skimping on the only piece of equipment that they can design/control that protects their warranty.

That said it's 25 bucks. Not a bad price for peace of mind. (I myself do use an aftermarket thermal paste by the name of Arctic Silver so we all get peace of mind somewhere. :) )

#3732 Jess Stryker   Boosting My APM CAGiversary!   4054 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 03:48 PM

It's really not that much trouble... Granted, I've been around the insides of PC since 1997. I use to troubleshoot (hardware and software) PCs for the Navy and I've only seen once were an aftermarket CPU cooler was needed on a stock machine. 1000s of machines so the odds are you'll be just fine.

Every PC I've ever owned (built them all myself) has had a stock cooler. Intel/AMD wouldn't be doing themselves any favors by skimping on the only piece of equipment that they can design/control that protects their warranty.

That said it's 25 bucks. Not a bad price for peace of mind. (I myself do use an aftermarket thermal paste by the name of Arctic Silver so we all get peace of mind somewhere. :) )

If memory serves correctly, I believe the CPU fan (or hard drive) is what's failed most of my older computers first, and I've had some loud fans as well, so will probably go with the peace of mind thinking about it. Having looked at a few videos, I presume the "dot" method is best when applying the thermal paste?

 

Also, something else that popped up. Was mentioned to me that the MSI Radeon R7 360 is 20% better presumably than the 750 ti. But when looking at benchmarks and reading recommendations, it appears the 750 Ti is better? Is there something I'm missing?


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#3733 elessar123  

Posted 28 June 2016 - 05:21 PM

The ATI and NVidia benchmarks aren't consistent, depending on what they're benchmarking with. For example, ATI might handle Battlefield and Tomb Raider much better, but Nvidia might handle Witcher 3 and Overwatch better (just examples, may or may not be the actual results).

 

Consoles use ATI, so it wouldn't be out of the realm of imagination that PC games of console ports would work better on ATI. But NVidia pumps a lot of money into PC games, so a lot of games are therefore optimized for NVidia on PC (e.g. Borderlands).

 

 

 

What's the time frame for the setup? Since the new generation cards are out, I'm not sure I can recommend a 750 ti personally.

 

 

As for the fans... I'd get a second case fan before the CPU fan. Setting up a good airflow in the case is one of the best things you can do, and extremely cheap to do. Top back exhaust fan has been shown to be the most beneficial, then you would have one at the front somewhere to blow in.

 

Third-party CPU fans are great, but I mostly use one because they're silent. I can only hear mine start up, and then I can't hear a thing.


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#3734 Jess Stryker   Boosting My APM CAGiversary!   4054 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 June 2016 - 11:00 PM

That would explain why some sites claimed the MSI was better and others the GTX was better, so that clears that up at least.

 

 

For setup, I'd like to purchase the parts soon and build within the next month. I know some new cards come out I believe tomorrow and did see a lot of recommendations to wait until the 480 was out, but if I can get a decent enough video card for ~$80, it beats spending over $200 for one, even if it is newer. If it turns out I end up doing a lot more PC gaming in the future, I figure I can easily upgrade the GPU at that time (and there will probably be something even better and/or cheaper by then).

 

Didn't think about the secondary case fan. Since only one person recommended the CPU fan (strangely enough no one mentioned a secondary case fan), may go that route instead. If I find it does run hot for whatever reason, the CPU fan is cheap enough and at least I have one model to keep my eye on.


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#3735 FoxyPie   Better Than You CAGiversary!   17127 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 29 June 2016 - 11:35 PM

Posted this on Reddit, but figured I'd get some more opinions here as well.

 

As a first time PC builder, I just put this together tonight. I think it looks solid, but would like an extra set of eyes on it.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7MHRGf

 

Main goal with the PC is to be able to record gameplay footage via an Elgato capture card along with some minor editing (at least starting off). The specs seem a bit overkill for what the Elgato itself requires, but figured I'd be able to do some light PC gaming on the side as well for when some indies and such don't come over to consoles.

 

Not sure if I should add a second fan to the case or not. I'm under the belief that since I don't plan on overclocking and there's plenty of space in the case, I should be good on that front.

 

Edit: Replaced the link with a new one suggested by one of the guys on Reddit. Close to the original build but improves the CPU and PSU at the cost of the GPU. Granted, the Sapphire was probably overkill.

If you want my advice, and you should cuz I'm a brony, I might ditch the intel chip for an AMD one.  You'll save a ton of money (with say a FX 6300) that you could put into say an SSD.  $100 would buy you around a 480GB SSD.  You'll likely feel the difference in the video editing, though it may be not a lot of space depending on how much you want to game.  

 

I do agree that if you don't overclock you will be fine with the stock fan and save a little money.  Not sure about Intel, but AMD has been stepping up their game with the stock fans lately.  You could even spend a little for a second case fan (maybe $10ish).  It's always good to have one intake and one exhaust. 

 

The last thing to consider is maybe going cheaper on the video card.  I don't know much about elgato and reading the system specs it says nothing about GFX requirements so I assume the unit itself does most of the video processing so the gfx card is not as important?  You could go way cheaper for a card right now and get something functional.  I was using an AMD Radeon 65XX card up until recently and it will run most indie games just fine.  I think you can get some of those in the $30 to $40 range.  We're sort of in between generations right now so I just wonder if the 750s will be dropping even  more or if you wait it out you might be able to get even more bang for your buck in the $100 range.  The 750 is a great card, but I just wonder if it'll drop more or you might be able to get something a little newer if you wait a bit.  I think the 950s seem to be creeping closer to $100ish lately.

 

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#3736 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   20772 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:02 PM

So with the free Win 10 upgrade date coming up soon, do you guys recommend upgrading? 

 

It seems like Win 10 has lots of benefits but it also seems like MS is collecting a lot of data which is worrying some people (then again, seems like a lot of the big tech companies are collecting data). 

 

I'm on Win 7 right now and it's being supported for another 3-4 years, and am happy with it but not sure if Win 10 would be better. I've heard stories of the "revert" option for Win 10 not go so well so I don't wanna do the trail either unless it's safe/easy to revert. 


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#3737 Jess Stryker   Boosting My APM CAGiversary!   4054 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted Yesterday, 07:10 PM

Finalized Part List.

 

Only thing that changed from my initial list is the video card as I was able to get a 950 GTX for about $100 which seemed like a solid deal. Plus if I ever decide to play Warframe, I got a $100 code for that as well. Also am using the CPU stock cooler for now. Wanted to save the Cryorig H7 though, so I had an idea of what to look for if I go the aftermarket route in the future.

 

Got everything up and running for the first time last weekend with the exception of the GPU. Turns out that was defective, so instead of exchanging it via online and having it take 1-2 weeks, I opted to drive to Rockville to the closest Micro Center. GPU runs well now (and seems to have done well on the bench mark using uEngine). Reminded me how much I hate DC traffic though.

 

One question I have though. While at Micro Center, figured I'd go ahead and buy a case fan and went with the Cooler Master 120 JetFlo. Problem is, when I unboxed it, the screws are only maybe half the size of the fan itself. Unless I'm supposed to screw in from the back (through the case into the fan instead of vice versa), something seems off here unless I'm missing something.


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#3738 INMATEofARKHAM   Looking for my padded cell CAGiversary!   3657 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

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Posted Today, 05:51 AM

One question I have though. While at Micro Center, figured I'd go ahead and buy a case fan and went with the Cooler Master 120 JetFlo. Problem is, when I unboxed it, the screws are only maybe half the size of the fan itself. Unless I'm supposed to screw in from the back (through the case into the fan instead of vice versa), something seems off here unless I'm missing something.

 

Most fans either have some sort of bracket they click/lock into or screws...  The screws usually go from outside the case to inside the case.  (That way you have no body of the screw hanging out to snag on stuff.)



#3739 Sielanas  

Posted Today, 12:10 PM

Between Prime Day and assorted things, I've upgraded my setup but I've got a problem I can't identify. Machine powers on, no video, no signs of actual life. No error beeps when starting with no ram or no video card. Had the same problem with an Asus 990 board that I exchanged for an MSI 970 Gaming. New AMD 6300 cpu going in, carrying forward R9 270 GPU, 12gb DDR3, OCZ 700 watt PSU. My old board works perfectly fine with those parts, so I know they work. Odds of 2 bad boards is rather low, so it's something I'm missing and general searching isn't turning up anything.

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