In the future we'll be telling our sons and daughters about the birds and... the other birds.
#34
CAGiversary!
Posted 10 May 2010 - 08:37 PM
Whale, I'll bee damned.
True story about bees:
I had a hive infest a tree in my back yard. It got to the point where there were probably a hundred or so at a time flying in and out of the tree. I squirted lighter fluid in the hole, lit it on fire. Bees flew freaking everywhere and disappeared. I burned their hive. I patted myself on the back.
Went back outside the next day, the damn things were back. I tried flooding them with water, that didn't work; gasoline didn't work. I bought some of that expanding foam insulation stuff - they ate a hole through it. Eventually cold weather set in and they calmed down. So I took a butt load of broken sticks and filled the hole in the tree. They didn't appreciate that. They were literally flying out of the tree and falling dead and landing the snow because of the cold weather. I patted myself on the back.
Next spring rolled around and they were still there. I waited till a cool morning when there was no activity. I mixed up about 2 gallons of concrete and sealed the f'ers in the hole. I patted myself on the back.
Moral of the story? Don't pat yourself on the back if you still have concrete on your hand. You could hurt yourself.
True story about bees:
I had a hive infest a tree in my back yard. It got to the point where there were probably a hundred or so at a time flying in and out of the tree. I squirted lighter fluid in the hole, lit it on fire. Bees flew freaking everywhere and disappeared. I burned their hive. I patted myself on the back.
Went back outside the next day, the damn things were back. I tried flooding them with water, that didn't work; gasoline didn't work. I bought some of that expanding foam insulation stuff - they ate a hole through it. Eventually cold weather set in and they calmed down. So I took a butt load of broken sticks and filled the hole in the tree. They didn't appreciate that. They were literally flying out of the tree and falling dead and landing the snow because of the cold weather. I patted myself on the back.
Next spring rolled around and they were still there. I waited till a cool morning when there was no activity. I mixed up about 2 gallons of concrete and sealed the f'ers in the hole. I patted myself on the back.
Moral of the story? Don't pat yourself on the back if you still have concrete on your hand. You could hurt yourself.
#35
There are ten sticks of dynamite waiting for you.
Posted 10 May 2010 - 09:22 PM
My dad and I did something similar once, actually. Had a huge fucking colony of wasps a couple years back in this dilapidated old shed in one of our pastures. So we waited until a day of ~-35C, headed out to the shed, and removed the outer wall.Whale, I'll bee damned.
True story about bees:
I had a hive infest a tree in my back yard. It got to the point where there were probably a hundred or so at a time flying in and out of the tree. I squirted lighter fluid in the hole, lit it on fire. Bees flew freaking everywhere and disappeared. I burned their hive. I patted myself on the back.
Went back outside the next day, the damn things were back. I tried flooding them with water, that didn't work; gasoline didn't work. I bought some of that expanding foam insulation stuff - they ate a hole through it. Eventually cold weather set in and they calmed down. So I took a butt load of broken sticks and filled the hole in the tree. They didn't appreciate that. They were literally flying out of the tree and falling dead and landing the snow because of the cold weather. I patted myself on the back.
Next spring rolled around and they were still there. I waited till a cool morning when there was no activity. I mixed up about 2 gallons of concrete and sealed the f'ers in the hole. I patted myself on the back.
Moral of the story? Don't pat yourself on the back if you still have concrete on your hand. You could hurt yourself.
So many pissed-off insects utterly incapable of attacking you. I mean, they're still alive and they're still trying to sting, but their wings just don't work; fall straight to the ground.
#36
Old Man
Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:23 PM
Whale, I'll bee damned.
True story about bees:
I had a hive infest a tree in my back yard. It got to the point where there were probably a hundred or so at a time flying in and out of the tree. I squirted lighter fluid in the hole, lit it on fire. Bees flew freaking everywhere and disappeared. I burned their hive. I patted myself on the back.
Went back outside the next day, the damn things were back. I tried flooding them with water, that didn't work; gasoline didn't work. I bought some of that expanding foam insulation stuff - they ate a hole through it. Eventually cold weather set in and they calmed down. So I took a butt load of broken sticks and filled the hole in the tree. They didn't appreciate that. They were literally flying out of the tree and falling dead and landing the snow because of the cold weather. I patted myself on the back.
Next spring rolled around and they were still there. I waited till a cool morning when there was no activity. I mixed up about 2 gallons of concrete and sealed the f'ers in the hole. I patted myself on the back.
Moral of the story? Don't pat yourself on the back if you still have concrete on your hand. You could hurt yourself.
lol
#37
Old Man
Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:38 PM
http://news.yahoo.co...iversityeconomy
http://www.cnn.com/2...dex.html?hpt=T3
Reaching the Tipping point
http://www.cnn.com/2...dex.html?hpt=T3
Reaching the Tipping point
Edited by billyrox, 10 May 2010 - 11:36 PM.
#47
Banned
Posted 23 October 2010 - 03:59 PM
We wont be around for very long. I think humans are a evolutionary accident really, we arent fit for survival. The more we indulge in just pleasures of our own creation, the more apathetic we get, the more we depend on machines, the more we survive through medicine just makes us that much weaker and softer.
Hell even from a physical sense of the word were not meant to survive. We lack any real strength compared to another our size, were not as fast as a lot of animals our size or even smaller or larger, unless you live in very specific parts of the world our bodies arent meant for survival naked in the elements. True we can reason and build and such but we sacrifice in exchange our ability to truly survive. Our brains kept us from dying off but its our brains that hurt us also. Unless the whole world explodes when were dead monkeys will still swing in the trees, roaches will scuttle along and fish will swim in the ocean because they are designed to survive.
One day we will run out of resources and we wont be able to live on our own. If you took something like say gasoline out of the equation for 72 hours which is a relatively short period of time most countries would go apeshit and has is a fairly small thing in the grand scheme.
Humans dont survive, we dont fight, rarely use our instincts or anything else that has kept everyother species alive for millions of years.
So whether its nuclear war, a giant asteroid hitting earth, killer bees, lack of food, disease or whatever. Humans will not outlive the majority of animal life on this planet because were not designed to live very long.
Hell even from a physical sense of the word were not meant to survive. We lack any real strength compared to another our size, were not as fast as a lot of animals our size or even smaller or larger, unless you live in very specific parts of the world our bodies arent meant for survival naked in the elements. True we can reason and build and such but we sacrifice in exchange our ability to truly survive. Our brains kept us from dying off but its our brains that hurt us also. Unless the whole world explodes when were dead monkeys will still swing in the trees, roaches will scuttle along and fish will swim in the ocean because they are designed to survive.
One day we will run out of resources and we wont be able to live on our own. If you took something like say gasoline out of the equation for 72 hours which is a relatively short period of time most countries would go apeshit and has is a fairly small thing in the grand scheme.
Humans dont survive, we dont fight, rarely use our instincts or anything else that has kept everyother species alive for millions of years.
So whether its nuclear war, a giant asteroid hitting earth, killer bees, lack of food, disease or whatever. Humans will not outlive the majority of animal life on this planet because were not designed to live very long.
#48
$$$$ It
Posted 23 October 2010 - 09:33 PM
They recently found what's been killing the bees. http://www.nytimes.c...ees.html?src=me
Excellent points. On the flip side we could've died out without technology and medicine. Or reached points where most of humanity died and those with the best immune systems were left to repopulate. We need preservation of how we did things before technology though, we can't keep relying solely on technology.
Our brains hurt us also, but animals are hurt by not having enough intelligence. The thing is humans have the ability to one day find and even reach another livable planet. Animals do not. We've saved numerous species from extinction. We are not as biologically strong to survive things on Earth as some other creatures, but we also don't rely on mass producing and letting so many of our fellow creatures die off for all of us to survive.
It remains to be seen how far we can live without destroying ourselves. Maybe it's not 50/50 anymore, but it had to drop out of our favor for us to be motivated to increase our odds.
We wont be around for very long. I think humans are a evolutionary accident really, we arent fit for survival. The more we indulge in just pleasures of our own creation, the more apathetic we get, the more we depend on machines, the more we survive through medicine just makes us that much weaker and softer.
Hell even from a physical sense of the word were not meant to survive. We lack any real strength compared to another our size, were not as fast as a lot of animals our size or even smaller or larger, unless you live in very specific parts of the world our bodies arent meant for survival naked in the elements. True we can reason and build and such but we sacrifice in exchange our ability to truly survive. Our brains kept us from dying off but its our brains that hurt us also. Unless the whole world explodes when were dead monkeys will still swing in the trees, roaches will scuttle along and fish will swim in the ocean because they are designed to survive.
One day we will run out of resources and we wont be able to live on our own. If you took something like say gasoline out of the equation for 72 hours which is a relatively short period of time most countries would go apeshit and has is a fairly small thing in the grand scheme.
Humans dont survive, we dont fight, rarely use our instincts or anything else that has kept everyother species alive for millions of years.
So whether its nuclear war, a giant asteroid hitting earth, killer bees, lack of food, disease or whatever. Humans will not outlive the majority of animal life on this planet because were not designed to live very long.
Excellent points. On the flip side we could've died out without technology and medicine. Or reached points where most of humanity died and those with the best immune systems were left to repopulate. We need preservation of how we did things before technology though, we can't keep relying solely on technology.
Our brains hurt us also, but animals are hurt by not having enough intelligence. The thing is humans have the ability to one day find and even reach another livable planet. Animals do not. We've saved numerous species from extinction. We are not as biologically strong to survive things on Earth as some other creatures, but we also don't rely on mass producing and letting so many of our fellow creatures die off for all of us to survive.
It remains to be seen how far we can live without destroying ourselves. Maybe it's not 50/50 anymore, but it had to drop out of our favor for us to be motivated to increase our odds.
#52
$$$$ It
Posted 24 October 2010 - 07:10 AM
I've a long-standing tradition of picking that nit, believe me.
Not sure what you are saying. Edit: Google search gives me some idea. I think I just failed with this comment. Edit 2: Ya I know what you mean. I can delete this but I'll leave it up so someone can read it and laugh or shake their head at me.
#53
Posted 24 October 2010 - 04:10 PM
We wont be around for very long. I think humans are a evolutionary accident really, we arent fit for survival. The more we indulge in just pleasures of our own creation, the more apathetic we get, the more we depend on machines, the more we survive through medicine just makes us that much weaker and softer.
Hell even from a physical sense of the word were not meant to survive. We lack any real strength compared to another our size, were not as fast as a lot of animals our size or even smaller or larger, unless you live in very specific parts of the world our bodies arent meant for survival naked in the elements. True we can reason and build and such but we sacrifice in exchange our ability to truly survive. Our brains kept us from dying off but its our brains that hurt us also. Unless the whole world explodes when were dead monkeys will still swing in the trees, roaches will scuttle along and fish will swim in the ocean because they are designed to survive.
One day we will run out of resources and we wont be able to live on our own. If you took something like say gasoline out of the equation for 72 hours which is a relatively short period of time most countries would go apeshit and has is a fairly small thing in the grand scheme.
Humans dont survive, we dont fight, rarely use our instincts or anything else that has kept everyother species alive for millions of years.
So whether its nuclear war, a giant asteroid hitting earth, killer bees, lack of food, disease or whatever. Humans will not outlive the majority of animal life on this planet because were not designed to live very long.
You're completely marginalizing our intelligence vs. other animals. We are by far the most intelligent animal to ever walk the earth. We have modified and adapted the environment to fit our survival, no other animal does that nearly to the level we have.
The funny thing is many of the things you list as possible causes of our extinction are things that can and have wiped out other animals regardless of their strength, size, dependence on oil, etc. A giant asteroid would kill most of the animals on the planet, disease wipes out animal populations all the time, and if bees were to become extinct it would break down the entire food chain, not just the food chain for humans.
Sure things would breakdown quickly if petroleum, as our main source of energy, was to disappear overnight BUT there are many populations of humans that don't depend on oil or petroleum at all.
So, enjoy your cynicism toward humans but we don't have to spend every day of our lives worrying about a stronger/bigger predator eating us for breakfast like most other animals on this planet do and that alone makes us the most powerful animal on the planet.
#59
Is Making A Comeback!
Posted 04 January 2011 - 02:42 AM
The human race is so genious, yet we don't know why these things are happening...nonetheless, if we are as a human race are not causing it somehow I have to think everything will work out. Not saying its guaranteed it will, but humans have been around for quite a while and we have absorbed many different changes in many different ways. If birds and fish are dying off like mad, maybe the bird/fish population is balancing out naturally from being too high...? Doesn't nature usually tend to work these things out.
