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#31 Yanksfan   Cubs Fan Too :( CAGiversary!   5389 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2014 - 01:53 AM

Damn, Shazier was one of the guys I was hoping GB mght take @ #21.



#32 FriskyTanuki   LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights CAGiversary!   72854 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 01:54 AM

Dallas doesn't take Johnny Manziel, which means Arizona is the next potential landing spot for him at #20. At this point, it's either Arizona or Cleveland unless somebody trades up for him.



#33 Yanksfan   Cubs Fan Too :( CAGiversary!   5389 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2014 - 01:55 AM

Solid pick with Martin there for the Cowboys. I hate them, so I was kind of hoping they would make the mistake of picking Manziel there.



#34 AdvOfJet   Brotherhood of Darkness CAGiversary!   1644 Posts   Joined 18.6 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2014 - 01:56 AM

Well that sucked. No Manziel and no boost on defense. I don't care how much protection you give Romo he is always going to make idiotic choices when the game is on the line. He just doesn't have a competitive spirit.

At this point I don't see Manziel going in the 1st round unless Cleveland picks him up. Arizona will most likely take Bridgewater or Carr if they go QB.

#35 FriskyTanuki   LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights CAGiversary!   72854 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:09 AM

John Gruden has a huge hard-on for his dream of Houston taking Johnny Manziel. He just revealed the next act, which is about them trading up to the 1st round to get him.



#36 DNukem170   Banned Banned   8864 Posts   Joined 17.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:11 AM

Manziel going in the 2nd round would be hilarious

Paulie won the bet.

I guess the Ravens pick was good, but the only college players I know anything about are Clowney, Watkins, Evans, and the QBs.

EDIT: Wait, the guy's name is seriously Ha Ha Clinton-Dix? Wow.

#37 JP   Member of the Ravens Nation! Trade-in Value Team   8106 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:14 AM

I would also be entertained by Manziel sliding to the 2nd round.



#38 FriskyTanuki   LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights CAGiversary!   72854 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:20 AM

New Orleans has traded up for the 20th pick. Arizona gets the 91st pick (3rd round) in addition to #27.

 

ESPN confirms that they're not taking any of the big three remaining QBs with their quick shots of Johnny and Teddy staring at their smartphones. I didn't think we'd be sitting at a point where Blake Bortles was the only QB to get picked by the time we reach the 20s.



#39 AdvOfJet   Brotherhood of Darkness CAGiversary!   1644 Posts   Joined 18.6 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:20 AM

Odd move from the Saints ....

#40 FriskyTanuki   LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights CAGiversary!   72854 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:26 AM

New Orleans traded up to get WR Brandin Cooks.



#41 FriskyTanuki   LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights CAGiversary!   72854 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:42 AM

Cleveland traded up to the 22nd pick. ESPN is showing Johnny Manziel in the green room, which suggests that it's not for him.

 

Philly gets the 26th pick and a third round pick.

 

Edit: It is Johnny Manziel. Welcome to Cleveland. 



#42 DNukem170   Banned Banned   8864 Posts   Joined 17.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:43 AM

So...why did the Browns trade up for Manziel?

EDIT: Crowd base? Really, Gruden?

#43 FriskyTanuki   LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights CAGiversary!   72854 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:45 AM

So...why did the Browns trade up for Manziel?

EDIT: Crowd base? Really, Gruden?

Because they have 15 million picks in this draft and they can make sure that they get the guy they want.



#44 pitfallharry219  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:03 AM

I would've loved to have seen the Bengals take Teddy Bridgewater there. I think Dalton has hit his ceiling and won't ever take them any further than he already has.



#45 Yanksfan   Cubs Fan Too :( CAGiversary!   5389 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:04 AM

Odd move from the Saints ....

Nah, not really. They give up a little to select a potentially dynamic weapon in that offense. I thought it was a good move for a team that has an improved D and an offense that was potentially on the decline a little (esp after losing Sproles).

 

Because they have 15 million picks in this draft and they can make sure that they get the guy they want.

Yea, KC could have potentially taken him to play under Smith or potentially beat him out during the season (like Kaepernick). Or another team could have traded up before the Browns selected again @ #26. I like the move for Cleveland. If they believe in him, its good value at that point.



#46 FriskyTanuki   LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights CAGiversary!   72854 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:06 AM

Draft order for the first round:

 

1. Houston - Jadeveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina

2. St. Louis - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn

3. Jacksonville - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF

4. Buffalo (from Cleveland) - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson

5. Oakland - Khalil Mack - OLB - Buffalo

6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M

7. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M

8. Cleveland (from Minnesota) - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State

9. Minnesota (from Buffalo, from Cleveland) - Anthony Barr - OLB - UCLA

10. Detroit -  - Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina

11. Tennessee - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan

12. New York Giants - Odell Beckham - WR - LSU

13. St. Louis - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh

14. Chicago - Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech

15. Pittsburgh - Ryan Shazier - OLB - Ohio State

16. Dallas - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame

17. Baltimore - C.J. Mosley - ILB - Alabama

18. New York Jets - Calvin Pryor - S - Louisville

19. Miami - Ju'Wuan James - OT - Tennessee

20. New Orleans (from Arizona) - Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State

21. Green Bay - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix - S - Alabama

22. Cleveland (from Philadelphia) Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M

23. Kansas City - Dee Ford - DE - Auburn

24. Cincinnati - Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan State

25. San Diego - Jason Verrett - CB - TCU

26. Philly (from Cleveland) - Marcus Smith - DE - Louisville

27. Arizona (from New Orleans) - Deone Bucannon - S - Washington State

28. Carolina - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida State

29. New England - Dominique Easley - DE - Florida

30. San Francisco - Jimmie Ward - S - Northern Illinois

31. Denver - Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State

32. Minnesota (from Seattle) - Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville



#47 AdvOfJet   Brotherhood of Darkness CAGiversary!   1644 Posts   Joined 18.6 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:09 AM

Nah, not really. They give up a little to select a potentially dynamic weapon in that offense. I thought it was a good move for a team that has an improved D and an offense that was potentially on the decline a little.

I agree the pick itself is good. Just don't think they really needed to trade up to get him.

Manziel going to Cleveland isn't too bad. If he succeeds, it's great for a team that has had numerous QB issues for years. If he fails ... Not really anything different from the norm there.

#48 FriskyTanuki   LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights CAGiversary!   72854 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:39 AM

Broncos take CB Bradley Roby from Ohio State.



#49 FriskyTanuki   LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights CAGiversary!   72854 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:44 AM

Minnesota traded up to the last pick of the first round, which may be for Teddy Bridgewater.

 

Edit: And they've taken Teddy Bridgewater.



#50 usickenme   I'm the a-hole CAGiversary!   2560 Posts   Joined 19.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:54 AM

Damn the local radio guy here nailed the pick. Since the Broncos didn't have a glaring need, they could take a chance on a character guy



#51 fatmanforlife99   I need a weapon. CAGiversary!   3178 Posts   Joined 17.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 06:38 AM

Damn the local radio guy here nailed the pick. Since the Broncos didn't have a glaring need, they could take a chance on a character guy

I think Roby's character is fine. He was arrested for trying to break up a fight. He ran a 4.34 40, very physical for his size and is very experienced as he started for 3 years in a row. He just needs to learn how to tackle better.

 

I'm not very comfortable with Nate Irving at the inside. I would prefer if they went after one or two of these four, Max Bullough, Kyle Van Noy he plays outside but has the size to play inside, Chris Borland or Shayne Skov. I would really like to have Bullough on the team to bring some heavy run stopping on first and second down.



#52 aaronrodgers   Yo...Siggy, Phido! CAGiversary!   1802 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 01:11 PM

Great Browns draft, consensus #1 CB, many had Manziel as their #1, and the Browns fleece the Bills for the 1st and 4th next year for only moving down five spots.



#53 Burning Karma   A pain so heavy I could collapse CAGiversary!   1033 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 01:58 PM

I don't know too much about Kelvin Benjamin other than he caught the game winning TD in the BCS Championship game, but he's 6'5" so hopefully Cam can't overthrow him (too much). Any Florida State fans that can chime in and give me some info?



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:51 PM

KB has many comparisons to Brandon Marshall, which really can't be all that bad. I was hoping Tampa would trade down to get him, but I'm perfectly happy with Mike Evans for the time being.

#55 pitfallharry219  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 04:49 PM

Holy shit. Shaun King is one big fat Fuck now. I hadn't seen him for a few years until just a few minutes ago when one of those annoying autoplay videos started on Yahoo Sports.



#56 fatmanforlife99   I need a weapon. CAGiversary!   3178 Posts   Joined 17.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 06:39 PM

I don't know too much about Kelvin Benjamin other than he caught the game winning TD in the BCS Championship game, but he's 6'5" so hopefully Cam can't overthrow him (too much). Any Florida State fans that can chime in and give me some info?

I'm not an FSU fan, but watched him play a lot due to him being in the ACC playing against my Hurricanes. He is very good, raw, but very good. Just a month ago he was going in the top 15 in mocks, but he slid further than I expected. I was talking to my brother about him before the draft and he agreed about him dropping so far. He is pretty much the same as Mike Evans, both former basketball players, pretty much all the same stats from the combine and both are short on experience. I think that is what the Panthers needed, Cam loves to throw to Greg Olsen and he is 6'5" as well. He is not the most accurate passer, so having another big WR will help a lot.



#57 fatmanforlife99   I need a weapon. CAGiversary!   3178 Posts   Joined 17.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 07:25 PM

Stevie Johnson has been traded to the 49ers for a 2015 4th round pick that can turn into a 3rd rounder depending on what he does this season.



#58 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16969 Posts   Joined 16.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 07:52 PM

Stevie Johnson has been traded to the 49ers for a 2015 4th round pick that can turn into a 3rd rounder depending on what he does this season.

God damn Buffalo is a horrible franchise. First they get fleeced by the Browns yesterday...and now the 49ers today. That team is never going to win anything.



#59 fatmanforlife99   I need a weapon. CAGiversary!   3178 Posts   Joined 17.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 08:08 PM

I always liked Stevie, when he had Fitzpatrick throwing him the ball, 1000 yd WR three years in a row. Its a great move by the 49ers, they have a very solid group of WRs now. Plus they want to trade up and get another one like Marquise Lee.  



#60 DT778   number 1 on the westside CAGiversary!   10560 Posts   Joined 19.3 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2014 - 10:31 PM

Great move for the Niners.