Looks like the Browns will be going for a WR now with Josh Gordon suspended for the season after testing positive for weed. Man what a blow, I talked him up so much last season and he delivered. Oh well.
CAG NFL Season Discussion
By
DNukem170
, Mar 28 2014 05:23 PM
#63
Shhh...I'm Invisible
Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:13 PM
Man, how does the league's substance policy even work anymore? I mean, can the league universally ban a substance that is legal in some states? (though, obviously, not Ohio) I can't imagine Broncos and Seahawks players are allowed to smoke up though. At what point does it bear a resemblance to disallowing alcohol?
#68
Shhh...I'm Invisible
Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:41 PM
The NFL's rules don't have to mirror US laws.
Yeah, I'm just trying to think of another example of an employer forbidding its employees to use a legal "product" (which is what it now is in Colorado and Washington) on their own personal time. Like I said, for Broncos and Seahawks players, that's like telling them they can't drink alcohol when they're in their home. It just makes for a very mixed up policy right now.
I guess the ONLY argument I could see is equating failing a test to being "intoxicated at work". If they want to claim that Gordon was high while on the job, then that's reasonable I guess. They probably need a better method of testing though if that's going to be their argument. I'm curious how the NFLPA would feel if it happened to a Bronco or Seahawk.
#69
LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights
Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:58 PM
Many players have clauses in their contracts forbidding them from doing certain legal activities, like riding motorcycles, playing other sports, using legal drugs/medicine and drinking alcohol. The players agree to those terms when they join the league and sign the contracts, so it's not like they're retroactively banned from doing that stuff.
#73
Quintessential Studmuffin
Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:23 AM
WR and TE for the first two Bucs' picks? I'll allow it! Two good receiving threats at TE as well as two big targets on the outside in Jackson/Evans, and the return of Doug Martin has me a little excited for the offense. The only question mark is QB -- can Glennon take that next step and be reliable enough to get this team back into respectability?
After missing out on Manziel and Bridgewater, Lovie Smith apparently "loves" Mike Glennon. Interesting.
#75
Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:33 AM
WR and TE for the first two Bucs' picks? I'll allow it! Two good receiving threats at TE as well as two big targets on the outside in Jackson/Evans, and the return of Doug Martin has me a little excited for the offense. The only question mark is QB -- can Glennon take that next step and be reliable enough to get this team back into respectability?
After missing out on Manziel and Bridgewater, Lovie Smith apparently "loves" Mike Glennon. Interesting.
You don't think they'll start McCown this season?
#76
Quintessential Studmuffin
Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:58 AM
You don't think they'll start McCown this season?
Lovie came out and said Glennon is "their QB of the future". Glennon will likely win the job in preseason/training camp.
http://www.sportstal...k-of-the-future
About 48 hours before the NFL Draft kicked off Thursday night, rumors began to spread like wildfire that Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Mike Glennon, who was recently ousted in favor of veteran Josh McCown for the starting job, was on the trade block.
Bucs head coach Lovie Smith put those rumors to bed just after the Bucs selected, not a quarterback with the seventh overall pick in the first round but a wide receiver, passing on both Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater.
“Mike Glennon is our quarterback of the future here. Why would we want to add a third quarterback to the mix?” Smith asked.
“You know how much I like Josh McCown as our starter here, but I love Mike Glennon.” Both Manziel and Bridgewater had visits with the team in Tampa. The Bucs also hosted Fresno State quarterback Derek Carr and Eastern Illinois’ Jimmy Garoppolo.
“Our quarterback position is as strong as, to me, any quarterback position I’ve had when I’ve been a head coach.”
Multiple reports indicated that the Bucs were seeking anywhere from a second to third-round pick in exchange for Glennon, who was taken in the third round of last year’s draft and became a starter shortly after the season began.
The QB position being his strongest? Wow. Uh. Do you realize you are coaching in Tampa nowadays, Lovie?
#77
Banned
Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:00 AM
I think there have been more commercials than actual footage of the draft so far today on ESPN.
Luckily, there were better shows on, like Whose Line is it Anyway?
The Patriots take QB Jimmy Garopplo. There's a new Bill Bellichik trade bait in 2016.
Fixed.
#78
LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights
Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:16 AM
http://www.jsonline....-253490511.html
Great story about new Browns ILB Christian Kirksey's motivations/inspirations when he plays. The other good thing is that he's an LB that is especially good at coverage, which was the huge weakness of former starting ILB Craig Robertson. Great pick to fill a huge hole for them.
#79
Life is short... stunt it
Posted 10 May 2014 - 12:32 PM
Houston decided to skip Derek Carr, likely because of him being David Carr's bro. He went to the Raiders instead.
Who's going to QB the Texans again?
Bill O'Brien has made it known in house he wants Ryan Mallet to be he starter. With New England taking Brady's heir apparent last night, I don't see why they wouldn't trade Mallet now even though the reports were he wasn't available.
Lovie came out and said Glennon is "their QB of the future". Glennon will likely win the job in preseason/training camp.
Except they basically told McCown he would start to get him to sign there and announced him as the starter already.
And Jay Glazer reported before the draft Lovie liked Glennon and wasn't going to draft one of the top QBs.
As far as Josh Gordon goes. I think the weed law in the NFL is incredibly stupid. You have guys killing people drunk driving, you have all the things Aldon Smith has done, and who gets the most time? Gordon, for smoking pot. It's ridiculous. Guys are surely skating the PED laws but getting high is going to ban Gordon.
That said, he should know better at this point. He can blaze up everyday in 12 years. He's a top-5 WR in the National Football League. What are you doing.
And it's not a season long ban, he'll be banned from the league entirely and then have to apply for reinstatement next year. According to Browns beat writers on Twitter.
#80
LGBT Rights & Women's Rights are Human Rights
Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:24 AM
The Browns had a good draft addressing many of their most necessary weaknesses, which WR being the only untouched position of need. They got a potential franchise QB, some RB depth, a Guard to challenge for either spot, an ILB with good coverage skills, and two promising CBs to give them more depth on that secondary so that Buster Skrine can be the great nickel CB that he is. They've already pounced on some WRs now that the draft is over, so I hope they find a few gems there.
#82
Quintessential Studmuffin
Posted 12 May 2014 - 04:19 AM
Except they basically told McCown he would start to get him to sign there and announced him as the starter already.
And Jay Glazer reported before the draft Lovie liked Glennon and wasn't going to draft one of the top QBs.
At least one team does this every year to challenge/amp up whatever young QB they have on the roster to try and get them to step up and take the job.
I'd say it works maybe 40% of the time, but whatever.
#87
Quintessential Studmuffin
Posted 12 May 2014 - 06:55 PM
Yeah but usually they don't announce anyone as a starter before that camp competition happens.
Right on schedule, Lovie said today that Glennon is officially the backup. Hope this doesn't hinder any progress Glennon seemed to make last year.
#88
A pain so heavy I could collapse
Posted 12 May 2014 - 07:06 PM
I'm not an FSU fan, but watched him play a lot due to him being in the ACC playing against my Hurricanes. He is very good, raw, but very good. Just a month ago he was going in the top 15 in mocks, but he slid further than I expected. I was talking to my brother about him before the draft and he agreed about him dropping so far. He is pretty much the same as Mike Evans, both former basketball players, pretty much all the same stats from the combine and both are short on experience. I think that is what the Panthers needed, Cam loves to throw to Greg Olsen and he is 6'5" as well. He is not the most accurate passer, so having another big WR will help a lot.
Thanks for the info. From everything I read since the pick, I'm getting excited to see him out on the field.
I think the Panthers had a pretty good draft. Grabbed Kelvin and also got Kony Early to add to that monster D. The only pick I'm puzzled on is the Gaffney selection given that we have a crowded backfield already. I'm assuming it was a best player available pick.
