[irideabike]

you're just racist bobarino you wouldn't understand.  now pretend that i just played a tiny violin between my fingers and wipe the tears from your eyes.

[egofed]

While listening to NPR today, they discussed the Cadillac tax on policies from the ACA. Even the host seemed down on it and surprised that it was in the plan. They even referenced Gruber again saying that misdirection and "renaming" was required to pass the law.

 

http://www.huffingto..._n_3239488.html

 

Freakonomics the other day referenced a study that showed that expanding medicaid/care resulted in a 40% INCREASE in ER visits rather than the reduction that the ACA economists claimed would occur and save us money. Holy crap, we are sooooo screwed....

 

http://www.nytimes.c...gests.html?_r=0

 

The study, published in the journal Science, compared thousands of low-income people in the Portland area who were randomly selected in a 2008 lottery to get Medicaid coverage with people who entered the lottery but remained uninsured. Those who gained coverage made 40 percent more visits to the emergency room than their uninsured counterparts during their first 18 months with insurance.

The pattern was so strong that it held true across most demographic groups, times of day and types of visits, including those for conditions that were treatable in primary care settings.

 

The findings cast doubt on the hope that expanded insurance coverage will help rein in emergency room costs just as more than two million people are gaining coverage under the Affordable Care Act. And they go against one of the central arguments of the law’s supporters, that extending insurance to large numbers of Americans would reduce emergency room use, and eventually save money.

In remarks in New Mexico in 2009, Mr. Obama said: “I think that it’s very important that we provide coverage for all people because if everybody’s got coverage, then they’re not going to the emergency room for treatment.”

[UncleBob]

Insurance isn't the fix - comprehensive health care options that are designed to get people well and keep people well are what we need. Not a giant present for the health insurance industry.

But it's all good - at least the Dems did *something*, right?

As much as the 'pubs get accused of trying to make the government so inefficent that it collapses so they can rebuild it in their image, I can't help but wonder if the 'dems shared a similar vision for health care.

[egofed]

Insurance isn't the fix - comprehensive health care options that are designed to get people well and keep people well are what we need. Not a giant present for the health insurance industry.

But it's all good - at least the Dems did *something*, right?

As much as the 'pubs get accused of trying to make the government so inefficent that it collapses so they can rebuild it in their image, I can't help but wonder if the 'dems shared a similar vision for health care.

I hear ya, but how are we supposed to get people to eat healthier and exercise? We have a lot of ignorant, lazy, or just plain stupid people who will happily splurge on twinkies while sucking up tax payer funded healthcare subsidies.

[UncleBob]

Ya got me. Expecting people to spend their tax money on healthy food instead of soda and chips is apparently degrading to them, so what can ya do?

[goi]

One fix would be making large amounts of fruits and other healthy foods cheaper. One will see a box of (very small now) 8 pack nutri grain bars from $3.99 versus a 24 count container of store brand chocolate chip cookies for $2.50. What will a parent/parents who have kids to worry about end up buying?

 

The incompetent government and greedy corps don't want to pull the brakes on their rich gravy train so they'll never attempt this, continue to bitch about how people need to be taxed more for junk food, try to pass bills to reduce welfare then blame everyone else for the end results.

[detectiveconan16]

Looks like Kansas' $60 a day from ATM Welfare plan doesn't go far enough. The State Government wants to limit that pittance to $25! http://www.chicagotr...0521-story.html Woo hoo! More ATM fees that go straight for the job creators! Welfare Money should not be used to pay for living expenses or food. Pull yourself up with your own imaginary bootstraps Kansas.

[detectiveconan16]

http://www.washingto...a8c6_story.html

Those ads where lawyers promise you cash money now in a settlement for lead poisoning among other things? Blights on mankind it seems. People usually get structured settlements, like 500 a month or something, but are promised a lump sum payment if they surrender everything to these law firms. One might say, too bad, they should know better. But these victims can't and don't.

[detectiveconan16]

http://www.correctio...eir-room-board/

 

In 43 states it is legal for governments to sue former prisoners in room and board. Illinois has taken initiative and has actively pursued former felons to repay the costs incurred for their time in jail. Remember, you can also be jailed for not paying your court fees in numerous states. So don't even think about attempting to commit the crime if you can't even pay for the time.

[UncleBob]

Illinois has taken initiative and has actively pursued former felons to repay the costs incurred for their time in jail.

I wonder if our former governors had to pay for their room/board...

[detectiveconan16]

http://www.fox26hous...types=og.shares

 

This man was arrested for a debt from the 1980s over his $1,500 student loan. Federal agents raided his house a few days ago, and it seems with the costs related to that raid, including court fees, he's going to prison if he can't afford to pay for the new charges. Cha-ching America.

[detectiveconan16]

the poor supporters of Donald Trump, they ought to be thrown off a cliff like in 300. Vote Cruz! http://www.nationalr...evin-williamson

[detectiveconan16]

The poor have a safety net, but it's rigged to break like cobwebs. http://www.wnyc.org/...esnt-catch-you/

[detectiveconan16]

New Mexico voters, be prepared to determine if the money bail system should be reformed. Or don't vote because you hate the two Presidential candidates. https://www.revealne...-theyre-poor-2/

[MichaelFex]

kbot -- no I dont hate -- you know that - but I am very concerned about the disease situation that is popping up in a lot of places and the lies by govt that says they checked when no they didnt.

And we both know where the ill will show up - and not just the real US citizens - and who is going to pay for that?

...and its not stopping - they are not stopping them at the borders.