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#31 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:58 PM

Palestine. Next question...

hmmmm are these simple mind... simple answers?



#32 mrsilkunderwear   Just Do It. CAGiversary!   1701 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 01:32 AM

For all of these people giving Israel a pass so much this has gone on for decades and it's only getting worse considering the Israeli government has gotten even more right wing.  Read Max Blumenthal's "Goliath:  Fear and Loathing In Greater Israel" if you want to get a real idea how fucked up it is there.  It's not just about the Palestinians, some of the attitudes of the right-wingers in the government resemble the bigotry that some in the Japanese government still have towards certain groups like the Zainichi Koreans, Ainu and Burakumin.

The idea of Japanese blood in the past seems strikingly similar to the argument by Jews about the Beduoins.  The Beduoins, who fled places in Africa for asylum in Israel, aren't allowed out at night there.  Some have made the case for not breeding with these Black people, that they must keep Israeli or Jewish blood pure.

In the past, Israel bombed the only flour factory in Palestine.  Let's not forget about the American girl Rachel Cori, who was bulldozed over by a Caterpillar, to knock over a Palestinian building to make room for more Jewish settlements.  Rachel was staying with the Palestinian family who lived there and was trying to keep their building from being bulldozed.  No real court case was brought up against the Israeli government for murdering an American citizen.  The thing was just swept under the rug.  It makes me feel so good to know that as an American if any injustice is committed against me an investigation will go underway unless it happened in Israel.  I need to convert to Judaism to get full recognition I guess.

Oh whoever called those people white trash was right for some.  Look at Avigdor Lieberman and his conduct in the Kinnesit.

 

The reason Israelis get away with this crap is WWII so they can always drag out the Holocaust and argue in self-defense.  Never mind their actions towards the Palestinians remind one of the Apartheid of South Africa. 

Oh and I forgot to lob the last reason Jews in general get away with some of this crap...Jesus.  Jesus was the Son of God and such an unbigoted man and a Jew then, by extension, all Jews must be great and not prejudiced and don't deserve any of the crap they get.

Was Hitler a right wing nut?



#33 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2509 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:58 PM

Out of curiosity, who thinks the US should get involved, ignore, continue to financially and politically back only-Israel?  Would be nice if you gave a reason for your opinion.

 

Mine is that the US should ignore. Meaning they cut financial support to Israel, Egypt, and the Palestinian Authority, and make it purely an Israel/Palestine/UN issue. Make both parties have to rely on the charity and support of the international community. That might put enough pressure on both of them, to have to find a longer term solution.



#34 asampedasjohor   AsamPedasJohor CAGiversary!   80 Posts   Joined 8.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:32 PM

just want to share this video about jon stewart comment on Israel-Palestine Gaza conflict...

 

 



#35 dohdough   Sum Dum Guy CAGiversary!   6860 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:18 PM

Just goes to show ya that Stewart is a self-hating Liberal Jew. Who's with me?

#36 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2509 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:15 PM

That Jew bastard Zionist anti-Israeli self hating terrorist!  We shall march!



#37 rebelschs   Necessary Evil CAGiversary!   259 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:33 AM

Mine is that the US should ignore. Meaning they cut financial support to Israel, Egypt, and the Palestinian Authority, and make it purely an Israel/Palestine/UN issue. Make both parties have to rely on the charity and support of the international community. That might put enough pressure on both of them, to have to find a longer term solution.

I agree with you here. I think it would be in our best interest if we started doing this with more countries. We need to keep our noses out of some things, and this is a pretty good example. I don't think our politicians, any of them, can help the situation.

 

I can't single out Obama or John Kerry on this. If we had a person who we could send over there to straighten the mess out, it would be great, but this is an issue USA can't fix. I don't like the UN, I don't agree with having their headquarters here, but they need to take action on this. We really don't need to get involved in this matter, but it needs to get moving toward a resolution before someone gets nuked.



#38 RPGNinja   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   378 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 05:52 AM

We should most certainly stay out of the affairs. But personally in this particular it is all Palestine's fault this time. They decided to dig underground tunnels to find another way to attack them and Israel responded. The reoccurring theme is that Palestine gets mad at Israel for retaliating with their superior technology even though Palestine attacked first.

#39 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 10:13 AM

The whole tunnel excuse is ridiculous and it has cause thousand of innocent lives,  Israel is not looking for tunnels cause that would be like looking for rabbit holes in your backyard, you will never find them all.

 

But if the are digging tunnels Israel would be wiser to wait till the rabbit pop out instead of following the rabbit

 

There are many reasons why Israel is looking to weaken Palestine as much as possible and none of it has to do with tunnel searching

 

We know they killed thousands that were innocents and children, how many militant did they actually killed?  



#40 egofed   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1020 Posts   Joined 16.6 Years Ago  

Posted 29 July 2014 - 12:56 PM

The whole tunnel excuse is ridiculous and it has cause thousand of innocent lives,  Israel is not looking for tunnels cause that would be like looking for rabbit holes in your backyard, you will never find them all.

 

But if the are digging tunnels Israel would be wiser to wait till the rabbit pop out instead of following the rabbit

 

There are many reasons why Israel is looking to weaken Palestine as much as possible and none of it has to do with tunnel searching

 

We know they killed thousands that were innocents and children, how many militant did they actually killed?  

Are you saying to wait for the suicide bombers to "pop out" instead of destroying the source? If I was an Israeli citizen, then I would not be in favor of waiting.



#41 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2509 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:40 PM

Yah, the tunnel excuse is ridiculous, and you're trying to tell me there is no technology that would either penetrate deep enough to sense holes, there is no intelligence that shows tunnels being dug, and nothing seismology related could pick up underground drilling?

 

And if that's the primary reason, then why are neighborhoods being leveled. This is all about intimidation, to justify mass murder, Israel just didn't count on social media and on-site journalists to report what they saw.  This is starting to apply to major news networks.  Israel reporting Hamas blew something up, NBC field reporters saying Hamas didn't, it came from an Israeli drone.

 

Both sides are lying and trying to promote their damages, but the disproportionate violence from Israel is indefensible.  I never thought John Kerry had balls, but it sounds like he's been running on common sense and respect for human life in the stance he's taking with trying to work towards a cease-fire, which will always fail with Netanyahu. The world's best bet for peace is for someone within Israel to assassinate him, or leave him like a vegetable like that war criminal pig Ariel Sharon.  That guy couldn't rot away fast enough.



#42 egofed   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1020 Posts   Joined 16.6 Years Ago  

Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:19 PM

Yah, the tunnel excuse is ridiculous, and you're trying to tell me there is no technology that would either penetrate deep enough to sense holes, there is no intelligence that shows tunnels being dug, and nothing seismology related could pick up underground drilling?

 

And if that's the primary reason, then why are neighborhoods being leveled. This is all about intimidation, to justify mass murder, Israel just didn't count on social media and on-site journalists to report what they saw.  This is starting to apply to major news networks.  Israel reporting Hamas blew something up, NBC field reporters saying Hamas didn't, it came from an Israeli drone.

 

Both sides are lying and trying to promote their damages, but the disproportionate violence from Israel is indefensible.  I never thought John Kerry had balls, but it sounds like he's been running on common sense and respect for human life in the stance he's taking with trying to work towards a cease-fire, which will always fail with Netanyahu. The world's best bet for peace is for someone within Israel to assassinate him, or leave him like a vegetable like that war criminal pig Ariel Sharon.  That guy couldn't rot away fast enough.

Do think if Hamas had the Israeli armies technology and resources that they would treat Israeli civilians better? Should we ignore all the "Death to Israel" chants by people in power? I think Israel is showing great restraint in not just wiping everyone in Gaza out. I would make a decree that if one more rocket is fired into Israel from a location, then the whole force and might of the Israeli army would be brought to bear there. A gov't's number one responsibility is to protect its people and borders. This crap has been going on way too long and calls for drastic action. I do find it funny that you would try to "sense" the tunnels being dug into your sovereign nation. It should be freaking war, dude. A wise general does not let the enemy continue to eternally pick apart his defenses. Actions have repercussions. Try continually throwing  rocks  thru the White House's windows and see how much "disproportionate violence" you will  become acquainted with.



#43 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2509 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:59 AM

Do think if Hamas had the Israeli armies technology and resources that they would treat Israeli civilians better? Should we ignore all the "Death to Israel" chants by people in power? I think Israel is showing great restraint in not just wiping everyone in Gaza out. I would make a decree that if one more rocket is fired into Israel from a location, then the whole force and might of the Israeli army would be brought to bear there. A gov't's number one responsibility is to protect its people and borders. This crap has been going on way too long and calls for drastic action. I do find it funny that you would try to "sense" the tunnels being dug into your sovereign nation. It should be freaking war, dude. A wise general does not let the enemy continue to eternally pick apart his defenses. Actions have repercussions. Try continually throwing  rocks  thru the White House's windows and see how much "disproportionate violence" you will  become acquainted with.

Have you looked at a map? Explain to me how Israel wipes Gaza off the map. Tactical nukes...while destroying their own country?  They can't for a whole host of reasons. And if Hamas had Israeli technology would they do the same thing? Probably. Don't you agree.  Assuming you do, it doesn't bother you that Hamas is classified as an international terrorist organization, while Israel is the Middle East's only democracy and America's strongest ally in the world?  So yes, I do think an alleged terrorist organization would probably do what Israel is doing.  I expect better from a developed country, than I do a band of terrorists with rockets.

 

There are also international limits to war, as agreed on by the US and much of the world.  Things like no chemical warfare including phosphorous shells that dropped on South Lebanon the last time Israel went to war.  I didn't say let dudes dig tunnels then kill them when they pop up (another poster did, and that's idiocy, if you know of these tunnels, take them out. I sure would like to see some third party confirmation that they exist, or are as prominent as Israel is telling us.  Seems insane that with modern technology they would have no clue of their presence until they were mostly finished. 

 

Personally, if Israel did complete genocide and "wipe Gaza off the Earth" I think the US would finally break ties and Israel would be allllll alone in the world.  They might have a kickass military, but when the rest of the world wants you gone because you're the punk ass teenager that thought he was hotshit in Lincoln, NE when he could slap around little kids and took his act to Compton or Oakland and figured out quickly that on the global scale he was just a big bully in a small town and got his ass beat, Israel is going to understand that when you've got 10 countries from Europe, Middle East, and Asia who are done with the act, your little piece of land could quickly be underwater.

 

Israel is losing the PR war. You dumbfucks who keep digging your heels into the sand and pretending like the mass killings are just what some asshole terrorist raghead sandn*****s deserve may be too dense to understand it, but in the longrun people will look back and see that you were on the wrong side of history. Of course by then Cheapy's son might be running CAG, but it will happen. Israel is losing the battle by killing more guys on the other side.  They better pray at the Wailing Wall from now until the next election that someone highly Israel friendly like Hillary Clinton or Chuck Schumer get elected, because if it's not a bend over backwards to support Israel President, they're going to keep calling, but that red phone isn't going to be answered.

 

If the Oval Office got setup in my kitchen thanks to England and France, you're goddamn right I'd be throwing rocks at the window.

 

Early in this conflict, I thought there was blame on both sides for starting it, and keeping it going. At this point Israel is attempting genocide. I've never seen so many Jews, both personal connections, and in the public light, denounce Israel so thoroughly.  Humanity is against genocide, why you aren't, I can't explain.



#44 RPGNinja   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   378 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:06 PM

The whole tunnel excuse is ridiculous and it has cause thousand of innocent lives,  Israel is not looking for tunnels cause that would be like looking for rabbit holes in your backyard, you will never find them all.
 
But if the are digging tunnels Israel would be wiser to wait till the rabbit pop out instead of following the rabbit
 
There are many reasons why Israel is looking to weaken Palestine as much as possible and none of it has to do with tunnel searching
 
We know they killed thousands that were innocents and children, how many militant did they actually killed?


You don't want innocent lives lost? Then don't attack Israel. Unfortunately in war innocent lives DO get lost.

Why aren't you talking about the innocent lives Israel has lost as well. It is funny you keep saying "innocent lives are lost" but you make it a one way street.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

Yah, the tunnel excuse is ridiculous, and you're trying to tell me there is no technology that would either penetrate deep enough to sense holes, there is no intelligence that shows tunnels being dug, and nothing seismology related could pick up underground drilling?

 

And if that's the primary reason, then why are neighborhoods being leveled. This is all about intimidation, to justify mass murder, Israel just didn't count on social media and on-site journalists to report what they saw.  This is starting to apply to major news networks.  Israel reporting Hamas blew something up, NBC field reporters saying Hamas didn't, it came from an Israeli drone.

 

Both sides are lying and trying to promote their damages, but the disproportionate violence from Israel is indefensible.  I never thought John Kerry had balls, but it sounds like he's been running on common sense and respect for human life in the stance he's taking with trying to work towards a cease-fire, which will always fail with Netanyahu. The world's best bet for peace is for someone within Israel to assassinate him, or leave him like a vegetable like that war criminal pig Ariel Sharon.  That guy couldn't rot away fast enough.

 

Apparently Hamas doesn't even have the technology to keep their own rockets from falling short and killing their own people. But uh... save face and blame your blunder on the other site is politics 101 right?

 

Pretty good quote in regards to Hamas "...being capable of making war but not peace" but of course Palestines have to speak under a cloak of anonymity.

 



#46 RPGNinja   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   378 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:44 AM

Berzirk is such a Hamas apologist.

Yah Berzirk there is no tunnels going on right?

http://www.cbn.com/c...to-Ambush-IDF-/

Oops that sucks for you.

#47 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2509 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:36 AM

Berzirk is such a Hamas apologist.

Yah Berzirk there is no tunnels going on right?

http://www.cbn.com/c...to-Ambush-IDF-/

Oops that sucks for you.

I didn't doubt their existence, I was doubting that it was the motive for going to war and leveling Gaza.

 

The first sentence in my second paragraph wondering how Israel doesn't have better methods for dealing with these tunnels or detecting them was "And if that's the primary reason, then why are neighborhoods being leveled."  If I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that Israel went to war for these "terror tunnels", then my question was why neighborhoods were being destroyed, to deal with tunnels.  That right there is based on the premise that they exist. 

 

So your reading comprehension sucks for you...and for me, because I had to waste three minutes explaining why you misunderstood.

 

It's pretty amazing that you are such a big fan of enormous civilian deaths. I can only imagine you're either a sociopath, or just such an immense bigot, that pictures of dead Arab/Muslim children gives you a raging hardon.  Assuming that's true...that sucks for you and any neighborhood pets.

 

Let's see if you're actually a human being or not: http://www.telegraph...ild-deaths.html

 

And Hamas apologist?  Not in the slightest.  I'm pro-children not being murdered in their homes or being made homeless.  That doesn't require political or foreign policy goggles to assess.



#48 egofed   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1020 Posts   Joined 16.6 Years Ago  

Posted 31 July 2014 - 02:56 PM

Way to play the "dead children" card, Berzirk. Do you really believe anybody  here is happy to see innocents die? What I am hoping for is that Hamas will recognize the fact that they are causing Israel to take extreme measures by firing rockets (over 2500 I think) into civilian areas, digging terror tunnels, and publicly calling for the death of Jews and the eradication of Israel. According to NPR, Hamas has declined cease fire truces unless their demand for the blockade to be removed is met. I am torn on the blockade, Israel is providing food and resources to Gaza, rationed I'm sure, but weapons were pouring in thru the port and being used against Israel. Do you let someone who swears to kill you amass the means to do so? If Israel would be allowed to exist, without extending its borders, and Hamas would be happy with the established 1948 guidelines, then maybe they could have peace. Maybe Israel should have kept all the lands it won in the wars? War is hell. Dead people suck, but I withhold a lot of judgment when I am not the one having rockets and tunnels thrown at me with the intent to kill innocents. Israel has the power to finish this fight. How can you blame them for doing that versus backing out and awaiting the next attacks?

 

Israel is supposed to come under attack by all the surrounding nations according to how you interpret Biblical prophecy. I am against us sending them such crazy amounts of money. And we send money to Hamas, a recognized terrorist power?!? WTF?

 

Finally, I do not support a nuclear option to be used against Gaza. Peace only works if both sides really want it. Hamas does not appear to want it, hence what other choice does Israel have?



#49 irideabike   no show CAGiversary!   6039 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 03:57 PM

mass murder lol ok berzirk.

 

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#50 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2509 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:01 PM

Way to play the "dead children" card, Berzirk. Do you really believe anybody  here is happy to see innocents die? What I am hoping for is that Hamas will recognize the fact that they are causing Israel to take extreme measures by firing rockets (over 2500 I think) into civilian areas, digging terror tunnels, and publicly calling for the death of Jews and the eradication of Israel. According to NPR, Hamas has declined cease fire truces unless their demand for the blockade to be removed is met. I am torn on the blockade, Israel is providing food and resources to Gaza, rationed I'm sure, but weapons were pouring in thru the port and being used against Israel. Do you let someone who swears to kill you amass the means to do so? If Israel would be allowed to exist, without extending its borders, and Hamas would be happy with the established 1948 guidelines, then maybe they could have peace. Maybe Israel should have kept all the lands it won in the wars? War is hell. Dead people suck, but I withhold a lot of judgment when I am not the one having rockets and tunnels thrown at me with the intent to kill innocents. Israel has the power to finish this fight. How can you blame them for doing that versus backing out and awaiting the next attacks?

 

Israel is supposed to come under attack by all the surrounding nations according to how you interpret Biblical prophecy. I am against us sending them such crazy amounts of money. And we send money to Hamas, a recognized terrorist power?!? WTF?

 

Finally, I do not support a nuclear option to be used against Gaza. Peace only works if both sides really want it. Hamas does not appear to want it, hence what other choice does Israel have?

There are actually quite a few people who are saying the famous point in the Hamas charter saying "push Israel into the sea" was removed in a new charter from 2008.

 

Saying it's Hamas's fault that Israel has to kill so many kids and innocent people is also silly.  You sound like the wife beater who justifies beating all hell out of his wife because she burnt toast.  The response is disproportionately immense, civilian casualties are taking place at a pace that is heartbreaking.

 

I don't understand how anyone can see repeated images of hundreds of dead children from a military operation where one group is so unbelievably outgunned, and have the best response be some dickhead cliché about how war is hell.  So am I playing the dead children card?  You're motherfucking right I am.  Half the deck is dead children.  The remaining half of the deck is dead civilians, with a handful of dead "terrorists", a handful of uniformed military from Israel, then the Joker cards (no because there's anything funny, but because of the "extra" cards that are low in number) are the 2-3 dead Israeli citizens.  

 

Do you think this current military operation is going to build peace-loving Palestinians of the future?  Much like the United States does with their dipshittery and mess of foreign policy, Israel for some reason thinks you win the hearts and souls of the enemy and international community by blowing up people to literally show you the hearts and brains...on the sidewalk.

 

The United States doesn't send any money directly to Hamas.  They only support the Palestinian Authority because they refuse to recognize democratic elections that put Hamas into power.  Hamas may get money through international funds by way of the Red Crescent, or a host of other humanitarian avenues, and without question, once it gets to them it's used for dubious purposes, but the United States refuses to even speak with Hamas, let alone give them money.



#51 irideabike   no show CAGiversary!   6039 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:14 PM

its ok we know you're a muslim homer berzirk no biggy.



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Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:27 PM

poops



#53 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2509 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:01 AM

its ok we know you're a muslim homer berzirk no biggy.

It's OK we know you have nothing intelligent or of substance to add.  Enjoy the blocked list.  You can have a xenophobe ménage a tr...err...a threesome with the couple of other losers that dwell there. Nighty night.



#54 RPGNinja   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   378 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 07:01 AM

I didn't doubt their existence, I was doubting that it was the motive for going to war and leveling Gaza.
 
The first sentence in my second paragraph wondering how Israel doesn't have better methods for dealing with these tunnels or detecting them was "And if that's the primary reason, then why are neighborhoods being leveled."  If I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that Israel went to war for these "terror tunnels", then my question was why neighborhoods were being destroyed, to deal with tunnels.  That right there is based on the premise that they exist. 
 
So your reading comprehension sucks for you...and for me, because I had to waste three minutes explaining why you misunderstood.
 
It's pretty amazing that you are such a big fan of enormous civilian deaths. I can only imagine you're either a sociopath, or just such an immense bigot, that pictures of dead Arab/Muslim children gives you a raging hardon.  Assuming that's true...that sucks for you and any neighborhood pets.
 
Let's see if you're actually a human being or not: http://www.telegraph...ild-deaths.html
 
And Hamas apologist?  Not in the slightest.  I'm pro-children not being murdered in their homes or being made homeless.  That doesn't require political or foreign policy goggles to assess.


And there you go again with the extremism. When you can't win an argument you have to then claim the person is a fan of innocent deaths.

All I see is you talking about the innocent deaths of Palestinians. Last time I checked innocent Israelis are dying too.

Since you still don't get it, the Palestinians attacked Israel first in this conflict and one of the ways was through the tunnels. Now they are crying because they are getting beat up badly. To counteract that they have to hide amongst women and children like COWARDS while they hide their rocket launchers in market places and amongst the innocent people.

And you are just as cowardly as trying to play the victim card and claim you care in the name of children. You don't give a damn about any of that and use it as a shield to defend Hamas. Cut the crap because we can all see what a fraud you are.

They want to attack Israel and use the most disgustingly ways to attack Israel because they are blinded by their hatred.

And I will just leave this here for you since you are a Hamas Lover and clear Anti-Semite.

The Preamble to the HAMAS CHARTER states: ″Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it″.

Please tell me how you can have a peace deal with Hamas? Go ahead.

#55 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 07:16 AM

If tunnels are a reason to go to war, US should of done that decades ago to stop the drug trade..lol

 

Obviously tunnel looking is a dubious excuse and never really going to work,  whats next Israel will look for rat holes as the next excuse.

 

One day I hope a guy will start a fire fight in a place filled with kids and innocent people and the SWAT teams comes in and start shooting people looking for the suspect with disregard.  I wonder how that will play in the minds of people

 

But but but.... we had to kill some innocent and children the suspect had a gun and was shooting wildly but not hitting anything

 

How many Israelis have died ... How many Palestinians have died just because they were in the line of fire.

 

If you think its ok to kill the hostage along with the suspect, you are no better then the the "terrorists" you accuse them of being



#56 RPGNinja   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   378 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 07:22 AM

If tunnels are a reason to go to war, US should of done that decades ago to stop the drug trade..lol
 
Obviously tunnel looking is a dubious excuse and never really going to work,  whats next Israel will look for rat holes as the next excuse.
 
One day I hope a guy will start a fire fight in a place filled with kids and innocent people and the SWAT teams comes in and start shooting people looking for the suspect with disregard.  I wonder how that will play in the minds of people
 
But but but.... we had to kill some innocent and children the suspect had a gun and was shooting wildly but not hitting anything


 
How many Israelis have died ... How many Palestinians have died just because they were in the line of fire.
 
If you think its ok to kill the hostage along with the suspect, you are no better then the the "terrorists" you accuse them of being


Don't be silly. It was the combined offensive of the tunnels AND the rockets pummeling Israel. You act like HAMAS isn't firing rockets.

I'll ask you the same question I asked berzirk.

The Preamble to the HAMAS CHARTER states: ″Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it″.

Please tell me how you can have a peace deal with Hamas? Go ahead.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 01:44 PM

One day I hope a guy will start a fire fight in a place filled with kids and innocent people and the SWAT teams comes in and start shooting people looking for the suspect with disregard.  I wonder how that will play in the minds of people

 

You're a pretty messed up guy.



#58 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2509 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 01 August 2014 - 04:17 PM

And there you go again with the extremism. When you can't win an argument you have to then claim the person is a fan of innocent deaths.

All I see is you talking about the innocent deaths of Palestinians. Last time I checked innocent Israelis are dying too.

Since you still don't get it, the Palestinians attacked Israel first in this conflict and one of the ways was through the tunnels. Now they are crying because they are getting beat up badly. To counteract that they have to hide amongst women and children like COWARDS while they hide their rocket launchers in market places and amongst the innocent people.

And you are just as cowardly as trying to play the victim card and claim you care in the name of children. You don't give a damn about any of that and use it as a shield to defend Hamas. Cut the crap because we can all see what a fraud you are.

They want to attack Israel and use the most disgustingly ways to attack Israel because they are blinded by their hatred.

And I will just leave this here for you since you are a Hamas Lover and clear Anti-Semite.

The Preamble to the HAMAS CHARTER states: ″Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it″.

Please tell me how you can have a peace deal with Hamas? Go ahead.

Ruh roh.  That leftist propaganda wing does a nice job of explaining how the 1988 charter is not in use, and no longer relevant.

 

http://en.wikipedia...._of_the_Charter

 

Additionally, Hamas agrees to the 1967 borders (which...uh...means they would acknowledge the existence of Israel, and that they wouldn't obliterate it).  This one is from an even more leftist source, Israeli media: http://www.haaretz.c...orders-1.256915

 

Are you feeling intellectually inferior now? You should be.

 

I wonder how many children's blood you bathed in last night.  Probably a dozen.

 

And you're right, Israelis have been killed too, and any citizen that dies is a tragedy, whichever flag they bear.  I genuinely believe that.

 

In fact, according to the NY Daily Times:

 

"Nearly 1,500 Palestinians, mostly civilians, have been killed since the war began early last month. More than 60 Israelis have been killed, nearly all soldiers."
 

---That's about 4% of the deaths as Israelis, nearly all soldiers.  This might flip your lid, but I don't care much if soldiers from either side die. They're fighting a war.  Remember, war is hell man. It's hell bro.  My tribal tattoo says in Kenatchkaweenan that "War is hell".  So when I say the death and killing is disproportionate, 96% dead Palestinians (mostly civilians), 4% dead Israelis (mostly soldiers), is kinda what I'm talking about.

 

(so do you actually masturbate with dead children's blood as a lubricant, or you just color corn syrup and pretend?)

 

Please don't act like you're speaking facts here. You're poorly educated, probably in life, but certainly in this conflict, and your bigotry, hatred, and lack of care for human life makes me wonder if you're in counseling.  I hope so, because you clearly need emotional help...probably academic help too, but that might be too late.

 

Love,

-Berzirk

 



#59 Syntax Error   Art School Dropout CAGiversary!   11693 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 04:21 PM

I wonder how many children's blood you bathed in last night.  Probably a dozen.

 

That sounds sticky and unpleasant.



#60 UncleBob  

Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:06 PM

All this talk about Israel/Palestine and killing innocents...

How many innocents have died via US unmanned drone attack in the past few years?

Let's stop throwing stones at the other guys so long as we're doing the exact same shit.