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That monitor doesn't have ANY adaptive sync, not even FreeSync, which is kinda weird.

 

Higher framerates will result in less obvious "tearing" on the screen so that's another reason to consider a higher powered 70 or 70ti over the 3060/ti but, again, the real question is what your wallet can afford.  Always be cheaper/easier to buy a new monitor down the road than a new GPU.

[dualrec]

Well, I was convinced to just get a 3070 Ti for 780 from bestbuy... then this morning a 3060 Ti showed up for store pickup for 509.. Now if it actually is available I have to decide svae 300 or go for 3070.. such tough decisions 🤣

[Rodster]

Well, I was convinced to just get a 3070 Ti for 780 from bestbuy... then this morning a 3060 Ti showed up for store pickup for 509.. Now if it actually is available I have to decide svae 300 or go for 3070.. such tough decisions

Congrats, although tbh, there isn't much that separates the RTX 3060 Ti from the RTX 3070. They are pretty much a wash when it comes to gaming performance. I personally would have gone with the 3060 Ti because the performance gap for $271 is too small. Either way, you should get rock solid framerates and both cards are good choices.

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Congrats, although tbh, there isn't much that separates the RTX 3060 Ti from the RTX 3070.

It's the 3070Ti, not the base 3070.   About 25% faster than the 3060Ti (though for about 50% more cost).

[dualrec]

It's the 3070Ti, not the base 3070.   About 25% faster than the 3060Ti (though for about 50% more cost).

Sorry, I did mean the 3070 Ti for 780.  Not the 3070.  Trying my best to stay near $1k building my first computer as I told myself make it decent, not a beast.  But might be back to the 3070 Ti anyway if store pickup doesn't get filled.  

[Rodster]

Sorry, I did mean the 3070 Ti for 780.  Not the 3070.  Trying my best to stay near $1k building my first computer as I told myself make it decent, not a beast.  But might be back to the 3070 Ti anyway if store pickup doesn't get filled.  

My bad, I thought I saw 3070 instead of 3070 Ti. If that's the case the 3070 Ti is the better choice.

[dualrec]

My 3060 Ti store pickup actually got fulfilled, so I'm going to go with that for this first-time build.  I was slightly jealous of the pickup order beside it, for a 3090...    

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You'll be very happy with the 3060Ti for your needs.  It's an excellent card.  Congratulations on fulfilling one of the most difficult parts of a build these past couple of years.

[dualrec]

You'll be very happy with the 3060Ti for your needs.  It's an excellent card.  Congratulations on fulfilling one of the most difficult parts of a build these past couple of years.

Thanks.  It kind of screwed up my plan to take my time on parts buying.  Figured it'd be impossible to get and force me to slow down.  Now I have to resist going all out and buying everything at once.  I'll definitely hold out for sales.

[elessar123]

3070 Ti for $700 at Newegg

 

Also, don't take too long, because you have only a certain period for RMAs.  Like 1-3 months or something.

[gospelman]

My 3060 Ti store pickup actually got fulfilled, so I'm going to go with that for this first-time build. I was slightly jealous of the pickup order beside it, for a 3090...

The guy with that order was probably jealous of you paying $1,400 less.

[balalath]

GeForce RX580

[blueweltall]

You can preorder EVGA GeForce 3060 Ti Xc

https://www.evga.com...=08G-P5-3663-KL

[Das_Regal]

WIth the 4000 series starting to come out in mid-July potentially it's insane that they're still selling this stuff over MSRP by this much.

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WIth the 4000 series starting to come out in mid-July potentially it's insane that they're still selling this stuff over MSRP by this much.

Who?  In the case of the above link, EVGA is literally the manufacturer.

[psunami]

I've given up on the 3000 series at this point.  Spent the better part of the last few years failing to beat bots when I try to buy a card.  I'm guessing the 4000 series won't be much different, but just tired of the search at this point.  

[Rodster]

I've given up on the 3000 series at this point.  Spent the better part of the last few years failing to beat bots when I try to buy a card.  I'm guessing the 4000 series won't be much different, but just tired of the search at this point.  

I've read several articles on Tom's Hardware and on other tech sites that Nvidia claims the 4xxx series cards will double the performance over the 3xxx series. AMD is teasing the same with their 7 series lineup.

[psunami]

I've read several articles on Tom's Hardware and on other tech sites that Nvidia claims the 4xxx series cards will double the performance over the 3xxx series. AMD is teasing the same with their 7 series lineup.

Yep.  I've seen the same.  Having nearly zero cards available for the last two years might make me a happier PC gamer in the long run.  

[elessar123]

Yea, but it'll also use like triple the power.

[beenaround]

I bought a 3060ti and wound up returning it because I didn't feel the performance increase over my 1080 was worth it. There is zero chance I will buy a 4000 series if the power draw rumors are true.

So basically hope the 5000 series is the bounce back to efficiency or AMD wows me.

[elessar123]

You should have kept the 3060 ti and sold the 1080, IMO.

[beenaround]

Tried that but I wasn't willing to ship so that killed that idea. Local market is non-existent.

[Das_Regal]

The 4000 series may draw more power on average, but because they have a process advantage (30 series was 8nm samsung, this is gonna be 5nm I think) they'll actually be more efficient. For example, the latest rumor is that the 4090 has the same TDP as the 3090 TI for twice the performance. Here's a little table.

 

SKU PERF POWER(W) WATT/1%PERF

3090 100% 350 3.5

3090TI 110% 450 4.1

4090 200% 450 2.25

 

So basically the 4090 is actually 50% more efficient than the 3090, it just also draws more power in absolute terms.

 

Therefore if you're worried about the power draw of 4000 series GPUs you'll just buy further down the stack and ultimately still end up with a better product. The same thing happened last GPU generation too. The 3070 for instance has basically the same TDP as the 2080 but produces significantly better performance (~15% uplift).

 

What to expect: the 4070 will perform better/equal to the 3080 at the same/less power. Expect it to be more expensive than the 3070, but still cheaper than the 3080. This will generally hold true across the entire generation.

[Nothing-]

If the performance gains are really that high then I'm not interested even in the slightest.  Nvidia has lost any and all good will during the previous two GPU cycles.   These 4000 cards will be price gouged to oblivion. 

 

There is no point in trying to buy cutting edge pc tech any longer.  There was no lineup of new games that took full advantage of the 3080+ series' performance capabilities either. 

 

"Try to buy last year's tech at clearance pricing," is always going to be the recommendation going forward, for the foreseeable future.

[Das_Regal]

There was no lineup of new games that took full advantage of the 3080+ series' performance capabilities either.

My 1070 will be 6 years old in a few weeks. It's perfectly fine for running basically anything at 1080p@60FPS on medium settings. That's more than enough for some people.

 

We've hit a point where upgrading is no longer about "can I play this well" and more about "can I play this beautifully." My goal is 4k@60FPS with the ability to do some decent raytracing, so I'm still looking to upgrade. That's going to require a 3080 or better.

 

The release of the 4000 series will lower the price of the 3000 because it'll have significantly better performance per dollar. That makes now a really bad time to buy.

I'll either be going for a used 3080 or a 4070 probably. It's perfect for my target.

[dualrec]

I'm loving my 3060 Ti performance for my first PC.  Maybe one day years from now I'll go nuts and build a monstrous pc with something like these 3090 Ti's that cost $2k....(more than my whole pc build)    and see what they can do    But that would also require a new monitor investment too.  I'm good for now with the middle ground.   I think I'm officially addicted to pc building though....

[psunami]

Man, actually have a 3080FE in my cart from Best Buy and can't bring myself to pull the trigger.  Tried to get one of these for almost all of the last year plus and never had the chance.  Sigh.  

[blueweltall]

Same, I finally got my FE ti I was eyeing but not sure if I want to pick it up or not.

[gpn]

Finally got a 3070 FE. Bye bye PS5.