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DS, unsuspecting kids being lured into dangerous chat rooms w/transcripts!


#31 io   ... Super Moderators   24653 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:19 AM

um... nintendo is safe as hell with friend codes... as safe as banana popsicles.


Yes, but apparently this 11 year-old girl hacked her DS to use Pictochat over the Nintendo Wi-Fi connection (and somehow communicate with other non-hacked DS's), bypassing the friend's codes in the process, thus thwarting Nintendo's best efforts to protect her :lol:.

The report was a muddled mess of Internet fearmongering. There ARE concerns with minors using the DS, but I would be more concerned with the perv sitting at the next table over chatting her up via pictochat than some random person on the Internet (who can't do any such thing).

#32 RAMSTORIA   fate is inexorable CAGiversary!   11980 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:30 AM

i wish i could use pictochat over wifi, then it might actually be a useful program... right now all i use it for is to draw to myself when im really really really bored at work

#33 humidore   Pasha CAGiversary!   1880 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:46 AM

i wish i could use pictochat over wifi, then it might actually be a useful program... right now all i use it for is to draw to myself when im really really really bored at work


Maaan, all you need are some Post-it Notes and a pen. Instant flip book...

#34 cgpwns   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   412 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 01:33 PM

Oh great now we'll probably have to endure a sequel to When a Stanger Calls; When a Stranger Pictochats.

Seriously Nintendo needs to force the media to tell the whole truth of the matter, this could cost them some sales from parents who are ignorant (which there are a lot of).

#35 Reality's Fringe   Goes sex for pussy CAGiversary!   7112 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 02:48 PM

Sounds like some teenager decided to be a douche when he saw her using the DS . I particulary like the line "I was scared someone I didn't know was talking to my daughter over what I consider a toy". Hey stupid, welcome to the 21st century where people of all ages use these "flickering boxes".

#36 botticus   GHM4Life CAGiversary!   16519 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 02:58 PM

Sounds like some teenager decided to be a douche when he saw her using the DS . I particulary like the line "I was scared someone I didn't know was talking to my daughter over what I consider a toy". Hey stupid, welcome to the 21st century where people of all ages use these "flickering boxes".

There's nothing like parents who buy a $130 "toy" for their small children without knowing what it is and does.

#37 Scobie   CAG City Rocker CAGiversary!   3028 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:04 PM

Sounds like some teenager decided to be a douche when he saw her using the DS . I particulary like the line "I was scared someone I didn't know was talking to my daughter over what I consider a toy". Hey stupid, welcome to the 21st century where people of all ages use these "flickering boxes".


Haha... seriously. Would've also been nice to note that the *average* gamer is around 30 years old these days.

I've got nothing against kids or families or any of that stuff... If you wanna wreck all your fun and give yourself a lifetime of worry and debt, go right on ahead and have kids. But what I do resent is the attempts by some (usually a "council," often with the words "family" or "parents" in their name) to dumb down and take the edges off of the culture to protect the children.

#38 GuilewasNK   No gimmicks necessary. CAGiversary!   21267 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:16 PM

Seems like the big kick in the media lately is rappin' about pedophiles. I mean, seriously, W-T-F??? Most working peoples' wages are either stagnant or in decline while the rich get richer, the cost of daily living is sky rocketing, pension plans are being yanked out from underneath the working class, sick bastards in the lending industry are spreading around *50 year mortgages*, gas isn't getting any cheaper, the current administration continues to march down the path of corruption and greed, there are two wars going on, the hawks are beating the drum and looking sternly at Iran...

... and the news media is talking about kiddie touchers? If I had a billion dollars, I'd buy millions of copies of Barry Glassner's "The Culture of Fear" and send 'em out all over the country. It's a proven fact that the vast majority of these types of crimes are not committed by the creepy stranger seducing children with candy from a van but rather from immediate family members and close relatives.

Anyway! Thanks Io, for making me feel like a heel for filthing up my Animal Crossing town with my rapidly-approaching-middle-age, smart-assed drinking buddies. But at least I give people a warning prior to exchanging friend codes that my animals tend to have sewer mouths and show off comically appalling letters...


You are absolutely correct in everything you said. News programs will latch onto any sensational story no matter what. Nancy Grace on CNN lives off that crap.

#39 ArthurDigbySellers   Not exactly a lightweight CAGiversary!   3418 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:17 PM

As others have stated, I like how they tacked on the fact tha the person has to be within 65 feet to use pictochat. What that "story" should have focused on is how Nintendo's online model is about the safest one out there for kids.

#40 BigDirty   Moderator Emeritus CAGiversary!   1518 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:22 PM

Terrible reporting. It almost makes me not want to bring my DS into Philly International Airport since I would be branded as some type of Kid Toucher, because I like to play games where "Touching is good"

#41 eldad9   Join Date: Jun 2002 CAGiversary!   3958 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 04:02 PM

The "safety expert" interviewed just wants parents to buy his $100 software that spies on kids (or adults) and sends the results to their parents (or other people).

http://www.kdcop.com/

That's right, a spyware vendor.

Quoting from his site:

How the eBlaster Remote Install Works

The eBlaster Remote Installer program will allow you to pre-configure eBlaster and will then save an INSTALL FILE on your computer.

You will then email this INSTALL FILE to the employee or child so that it is received at the computer to be monitored. For most email programs, you will simply ATTACH the INSTALL FILE to the email. You may wish to include a short note. You then click the SEND button.

The email with the Install File attached will then be sent to the recipient's email address.

When the recipient opens the email, they will need to click on and run the INSTALL FILE which will be attached to the email. The INSTALL FILE will execute and install itself with no interaction needed from the employee or child.

#42 Strell   LOBSTERS!....IN MY PANTS! CAGiversary!   26583 Posts   Joined 15.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 04:10 PM

For those interested, you can file a complaint here: http://abclocal.go.c...nfo&id=3293957

Or call them here: 866-639-7749

I'm going to file a complaint. I urge all others to do the same. Keep it sensible and professional, people.

(BTW if this has been suggested already, I apologize, I'm on dial-up at work so I don't have time to scour the thread.)

And basically tell them that they are idiots and that the parents in question are idiots also, and that sensationalist propogandic post-9/11 news needs to die a lonely, horrible, bloody death, perferably by violent kids mimicking GTA.

Note: I just saw on the complaint page you can add a file. I wonder how long until someone coaxes them into installing a virus on their machine.

But you didn't hear me say that....or suggest it....

#43 Three Dollar Hooker   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   99 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 05:38 PM

Nintendo is trying to corner the market on pedophiles, j/k, they introduced the best thing since myspace.com.

#44 Zing   Witty Remark Here CAGiversary!   1779 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 05:47 PM

Keith Dunn was a pedophile entrapment cop. He sat around all day netsexing with whoever would listen in hopes that some lonely guy who likes lolicon will try to meet up with him, bringing Keith closer to that month's quota. What a winner.

*edit* He is no longer a detective.

Here is another winning quote from him:
"I have worked undercover online as a 12 year old for many years".

You go boy!!

#45 Kendal   My sleep number is 69 CAGiversary!   4945 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 05:56 PM

I sent them this. Enjoy.

I just watched your appalling segment about the Nintendo DS that is on your website of lies: http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=special_coverage&id=3905371 . I love how jounarlism and reporting the news is never about giving straight facts. It is only after you drag the DS and the Nintendo WFC through the mud that you actually tell the truth about the systems capabilities. The games out for the Nintendo DS that are online don't even let you interact with strangers, you have to swap friend codes. Even after that, you can't really talk to them, at least not in Mario Kart DS. Also saying that the DS is marketed towards kids is another misconception the media has about anything Nintendo puts out. But that is another topic. Why don't you do a story about how Xbox Live has already had people been affected by pedators. What about the PS2 and PSP, they both have vioce chat online. Way to do some research. Also don't you find it funny that a mom is trying to protect her kid from danger in a bar that probably has cigarette smoking allowed in it? It is proven that smoking kills. Ask Peter Jennings about that. If you wonder why people don't buy news papers or watch the news on TV anymore it is because all you guys do is blow things way out of proportion and never give any real facts. Thank you for your time, may your news agency crumble.



#46 eldad9   Join Date: Jun 2002 CAGiversary!   3958 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 05:57 PM

I wonder: do two of these people ever try to entrap each other?

#47 ArthurDigbySellers   Not exactly a lightweight CAGiversary!   3418 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:06 PM

Keith Dunn was a pedophile entrapment cop. He sat around all day netsexing with whoever would listen in hopes that some lonely guy who likes lolicon will try to meet up with him, bringing Keith closer to that month's quota. What a winner.

*edit* He is no longer a detective.

Here is another winning quote from him:
"I have worked undercover online as a 12 year old for many years".

You go boy!!


I'm sorry, but I don't see why you are ragging on this guy. Anyone who takes a pedo out of action is alright in my book.

#48 Zing   Witty Remark Here CAGiversary!   1779 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:08 PM

One thing you have to understand about news is, "reports" like this come pre-packaged. The local news station just buys the video from another company and shows it on TV. They don't actually do any reporting or investigate the story themselves. The TV news market is far too competitive and fast to create their own content or to even check up on the facts, especially for local broadcast stations. I wouldn't doubt that this "news report" was produced by Keith Himself.

#49 Zing   Witty Remark Here CAGiversary!   1779 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:13 PM

I'm sorry, but I don't see why you are ragging on this guy. Anyone who takes a pedo out of action is alright in my book.


Someone places a TV set in their front yard with a huge sign that says "FREE! TAKE ME!". It's a nice TV so you pull over and put it in your trunk. The owner presses charges against you for theft.

Sound fair?

#50

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:18 PM

Someone places a TV set in their front yard with a huge sign that says "FREE! TAKE ME!". It's a nice TV so you pull over and put it in your trunk. The owner presses charges against you for theft.

Sound fair?



ahhh, so you're saying pedos have rights and that unfair ways of busting them shouldn't be used? :lol:

the last paragraph of this article is hilarious. the pedos can strike up to 65 feet away!

#51 ArthurDigbySellers   Not exactly a lightweight CAGiversary!   3418 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:26 PM

Someone places a TV set in their front yard with a huge sign that says "FREE! TAKE ME!". It's a nice TV so you pull over and put it in your trunk. The owner presses charges against you for theft.

Sound fair?


Yes, it sounds fair to me since your analogy is busted. If picking up kids and having sex with them was perfectly legal, you might have an argument.

I don't care if some "kid" is telling a pedo that they want to hook up with him/her on IM, the adult in the situation knows that it is illegal. I'm not crying any tears for some motherfucker who shows up at a house thinking he's getting 13 year old ass and ends up in a room full of news cameras.

#52 WebScud  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 06:46 PM

Man, the media just loves to exploit anything that they can. Why don't they be useful and assist the ploice and expose the sex criminals?

#53 eldad9   Join Date: Jun 2002 CAGiversary!   3958 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 07:12 PM

Ok, this is ridiculous. I have been on pictochat for like 3 hours now and nobody's molested me yet. Come on girls!

#54 Kendal   My sleep number is 69 CAGiversary!   4945 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 07:23 PM

Man, the media just loves to exploit anything that they can. Why don't they be useful and report unbiased, unspun news?


There you go.

#55 ScottsUSERID   G.I. Jew CAGiversary!   3690 Posts   Joined 15.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 07:33 PM

Ok, this is ridiculous. I have been on pictochat for like 3 hours now and nobody's molested me yet. Come on girls!


lol, that was funny.

#56 redgopher   is dead CAGiversary!   2497 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:08 PM

Nintendo confirms what happened to Emily is possible but the company claims that person must also be using another DS system and be within 65 feet. Like our expert, Nintendo also warns parents to educate their children not to talk to strangers even on their gaming system. Also, beware, there are other wireless gaming systems made by different manufacturers and they may have similar issues.


Later, it was revealed that the news crew had a DS in the van, operated by the driver, Jud. The network apologized for it's blatant disrespect of the public in order to make a dishonest buck.

Oh, and other systems might have similar "issues" huh... like it's a design flaw. Well I have some god damn words for you. A motherfucking journalistic masterpiece.

Go Fuck yourself, you fucking fuckers.

#57 Strell   LOBSTERS!....IN MY PANTS! CAGiversary!   26583 Posts   Joined 15.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:28 PM

Rofl.

Why is there a "Sex offenders in your area? FIND OUT NOW!" banner ad at the bottom of this page?

OH NOES TEH PEDOPHYALS ARE STEELING MY WEINERS!!11

#58 Ikohn4ever   No Women, No Children CAGiversary!   10804 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 10:56 PM

i bet the ds will sell out now because all the pedos want to picto chat, those geniuses at nintendo have done it again!

#59 Scobie   CAG City Rocker CAGiversary!   3028 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Posted 16 February 2006 - 02:09 PM

ahhh, so you're saying pedos have rights and that unfair ways of busting them shouldn't be used? :lol:


While maybe a bit skewed in the context of a discussion about kiddie touchers, I think Zing's general point about police entrapment is totally valid. If we move the context to a poor urban neighborhood and change the bait to an unlocked car waiting to be stolen or stripped, how would you feel about it then?

I mean, sure stealing is wrong, but would anyone have stolen the car if the police hadn't put it there? And how come those types of stings never happen in rich neighborhoods? Wouldn't it be a better use of public funds to promote education and economic opportunities in those poor areas than to entice the citizens to commit crimes, possibly leading to extensive jail time at further expense to tax payers?

If you zoom out a little bit on this, you can start asking a whole lot of other questions. With the booming private prison industry we have today, I'd kind of like to know how many crimes are actually police-induced.

#60 ArthurDigbySellers   Not exactly a lightweight CAGiversary!   3418 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 02:34 PM

While maybe a bit skewed in the context of a discussion about kiddie touchers, I think Zing's general point about police entrapment is totally valid. If we move the context to a poor urban neighborhood and change the bait to an unlocked car waiting to be stolen or stripped, how would you feel about it then?

I mean, sure stealing is wrong, but would anyone have stolen the car if the police hadn't put it there? And how come those types of stings never happen in rich neighborhoods? Wouldn't it be a better use of public funds to promote education and economic opportunities in those poor areas than to entice the citizens to commit crimes, possibly leading to extensive jail time at further expense to tax payers?

If you zoom out a little bit on this, you can start asking a whole lot of other questions. With the booming private prison industry we have today, I'd kind of like to know how many crimes are actually police-induced.


I would agree with entrapment arguments about 90% of the time, but I do not agree when it comes to sexual predators. Stealing a car is one thing, having sex with a kid is a whole other playing field to me. The gloves are off when it comes to those bastards.