Some of You are Too Damn Cheap For Your Own Good

PittsburghAfterDark

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This sale brought out the worst in people. I know I saw just about every game on any list on Saturday, I didn't abuse it. I didn't buy copies of games I already had, even to keep as "backups" or to trade. I'm too cheap to pay $3 on postage to trade a $5 game.

What I'd like to point out is how rabid some people here became over certain tiles. Rez, Disgaea, Viewtiful Joe, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 come immediately to mind. Folks, waht's wrong with you? Why can't you go out and buy these titles if you want them so bad? Okay Rez, semi-hard to find, now impossible to find new. We've been reporting $29.99 findings on this game all through 2004 from either CC or TRU! You want a game so bad you can't afford that? When the eBay value of the game is $49.99-79.99?

Viewtiful Joe and Disgaea have both been out since last August, if I'm not mistaken they came out the same day. So you've had a year to pick them up. Couldn't swing it? Couldn't swing VJ for $29.99 or less at Target, Wal Mart or Best Buy since Christmas? Disgaea... okay, it never dropped in price that anyone knows of until now. However it's scarcity was WELL KNOWN. It was almost like Rez, if you wanted it, you should have gotten it or you'd end up paying through the nose for it. Isn't it being reissued anyways?

MvC2, hell 2-D fighters with any of these controllers on any system don't work well. Interest in this game before Saturday? ZERO! None of you talked about it or wanted it. Yet here it is atop many trade lists. It's been on the $29.99 or $19.99 list many places as well.

I guess more than anything I'm shocked at how few games people buy on an enthusiast site like this. Not everything is going to be $4.99 or $9.99! Don't any of you even pay half price for games? What do you want from publishers and retailers? Sometimes you have to part with money to get what you want. Don't give me "I'm not teh RICH liek U!!1!1" line. $30 isn't going to break anyone, even a teenager living at home mowing lawns for funds or living off of birthday and Christmas/Chaunaka money can swing that. Hell, I see teenagers out on Friday's at the mall or the movies with more disposable cash in their hands than I'll have in a month.

I'm shocked at the greed I've seen exhibited here as many, if not all of us are, on the other hand I'm blown away with how cheap some of you are too.
 
Well... what do you expect. This site is called CHEAP ASS GAMERS. That means you'll find the semi-cheap people, the really cheap people, and the downright scum. So I guess you just have to deal with it if you want to be part of the community.

Also I was interested in MVC2 before this sale even started... it's a good game IMO
 
this site has brought the best out of me..i shared the wealth with many gamers/friends/fellow CAG users. I got 17 games so far and I'm happy. Many others got many other games...best deal i've been apart of on this site.

I've stayed away from the major heated discussions though...
 
Dude,

You're entitled to your opinion but....everyone likes free and close to free stuff. People were excited to get these games cheap and trade for them, but I don't know if I'd call it Rabid. If you're disgusted enough with everyone to write this long post looking down on people you could always consider not coming to the site.

[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']This sale brought out the worst in people. I know I saw just about every game on any list on Saturday, I didn't abuse it. I didn't buy copies of games I already had, even to keep as "backups" or to trade. I'm too cheap to pay $3 on postage to trade a $5 game.

What I'd like to point out is how rabid some people here became over certain tiles. Rez, Disgaea, Viewtiful Joe, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 come immediately to mind. Folks, waht's wrong with you? Why can't you go out and buy these titles if you want them so bad? Okay Rez, semi-hard to find, now impossible to find new. We've been reporting $29.99 findings on this game all through 2004 from either CC or TRU! You want a game so bad you can't afford that? When the eBay value of the game is $49.99-79.99?

Viewtiful Joe and Disgaea have both been out since last August, if I'm not mistaken they came out the same day. So you've had a year to pick them up. Couldn't swing it? Couldn't swing VJ for $29.99 or less at Target, Wal Mart or Best Buy since Christmas? Disgaea... okay, it never dropped in price that anyone knows of until now. However it's scarcity was WELL KNOWN. It was almost like Rez, if you wanted it, you should have gotten it or you'd end up paying through the nose for it. Isn't it being reissued anyways?

MvC2, hell 2-D fighters with any of these controllers on any system don't work well. Interest in this game before Saturday? ZERO! None of you talked about it or wanted it. Yet here it is atop many trade lists. It's been on the $29.99 or $19.99 list many places as well.

I guess more than anything I'm shocked at how few games people buy on an enthusiast site like this. Not everything is going to be $4.99 or $9.99! Don't any of you even pay half price for games? What do you want from publishers and retailers? Sometimes you have to part with money to get what you want. Don't give me "I'm not teh RICH liek U!!1!1" line. $30 isn't going to break anyone, even a teenager living at home mowing lawns for funds or living off of birthday and Christmas/Chaunaka money can swing that. Hell, I see teenagers out on Friday's at the mall or the movies with more disposable cash in their hands than I'll have in a month.

I'm shocked at the greed I've seen exhibited here as many, if not all of us are, on the other hand I'm blown away with how cheap some of you are too.[/quote]
 
yeah i dont understand what the point of this thread is, but i do want to state, i was the first CAG to visit my nearest CC and I didnt pick up one game. They didnt have Disagea or Futurama or Ikaruga or a couple others I wanted, so I didnt buy 7 Dark Clouds, or 4 VJs or whatever else. I dont even know how some people have all the time to play these games
 
[quote name='6669']Isn't that what this site is for?[/quote]

No, its to get good deals, but not lose your damn mind when games do go on sale and be at each others throats for snatching up a game you wanted. Yes, some people did cross the line, but its not like you have some kind of entitlement to get them above other people. I went to my CC, found nothing and it didn't bother me. I was in the middle of buying marvel vs capcom 2, but that fell through, and i don't really mind about that either. Some people just need to calm their asses down. Thats all I'm saying.
 
viewtiful joe was released in october, so it's been roughly 9 months. that's only 3/4 of a year. That's 75% for those of you who enjoy percentages, 0.75 for the decimal crew. And it did not drop $10 until a dcouple of months ago.


Of course, not being able to recollect things accurately should be expected.
 
[quote name='Arakias']yeah i dont understand what the point of this thread is, but i do want to state, i was the first CAG to visit my nearest CC and I didnt pick up one game. They didnt have Disagea or Futurama or Ikaruga or a couple others I wanted, so I didnt buy 7 Dark Clouds, or 4 VJs or whatever else. I dont even know how some people have all the time to play these games[/quote]

Long story short, We don't.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Sounds like someone did not get all the games he wanted[/quote]

Oh, Casey....why'd ya hafta do that....??

You know he's feverishly composing a retort right now....

Seriously, some of us did get a little crazy over the past few days. I myself typed some harsh rebuttals; but not once was i angry about games. instead, i got irritated because things got so heated around here, and that didn't help the situation.

Hell, even punqsux got testy!!

EDIT: spelling
 
I can appreciate some of his rant. There were many titles on the list I would have been thrilled to pick up at the $5 price but I never saw a single copy in all my travels. Many of these I'd grab just as quickly at $10. It isn't as though I saw an advertised item at a store requiring me to go well out of my way only to find it's sold out with no rainchecks. This was pure luck of the draw.

There were a bunch of game on that list I'd have really liked to have found. That doesn't matter. What does matter is that I got a whole bunch of not great but good games for an amazingly low price.

I even got lucky again today. I went by the Valencia, CA store near my home and found nothing on the shelves but near the closet check-out stand there was a few personnel and a cart with a good sized pile of game finally being tagged at $4.99. I found quite a few that I had overlooked before, hadn't seen on the list, or were previously not ringing at $5. I picked up 15 items of which I think 9 are keepers and the rest trade goods.

Probably none of these scores over 70% on gamerankings.com but I'm still pleased with the results of that trip.
 
You can cheap yourself into ruin if you don''t know when to stop before you build up serious debt. Too many bargains can add up to just as bad a debt as buying at SRP if you keep it up long enough.

I've been a CAG for decades. Yesterday I got curious and entered a bunch of my in the IGN.com 'My Collection' feature. I'm only about a third done and getting close to a $20,000 valuation. If I've always been such a cheapskate and very rarely paid over $20 for a game how did I manage to sink so much of my money into this stuff? It really creeps up on you over time. Thankfully a lot of that cost was paid off by selling high value games I no longer wanted or closeouts that had greater value elsewhere.

But still... $20K? Did I really need all those bargains?
 
You're missing my point. If you look at my collection I have 230+ games, if I miss out in getting something from a sale like this I don't care. First come, first serve. My point is there were games that people were going absoultely nuts over OMG OMG it's $4.99! I MUST HAVE IT!

Many of these games, especially the ones I listed, have been $19.99-29.99 already... Disgaea excepted. I already had Disgaea, Billy Hatcher, Rez and Viewtiful Joe. I got all of them on release day, except Rez... didn't have a PS2 when it came out.

My point isn't you're all greedy. My point isn't "OMG U TOOK ALL MY GAEMS!!1!". The point is why couldn't you have bought ANY of these hot titles from this deal before if you wanted them so bad? There was nothing on the CC sale (I got 9 games.) list that I would have even paid $19.99 for. To me this sale was a complete gimme for buying games I probably wouldn't even have rented.

Why do I like this site? Price drops. We all know certain games will only have to be out a couple of months before they're $19.99-29.99. That's a fair purchase price for a "maybe". Meanwhile many of the games on the CC list were treated like MUST HAVES like Halo 2, GTA: San Andreas, Half Life 2 when people could have had them for $15 more weeks, months or hell... that list had titles so old even years ago.

That's the point.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']You're missing my point. If you look at my collection I have 230+ games, if I miss out in getting something from a sale like this I don't care. First come, first serve. My point is there were games that people were going absoultely nuts over OMG OMG it's $4.99! I MUST HAVE IT!

Many of these games, especially the ones I listed, have been $19.99-29.99 already... Disgaea excepted. I already had Disgaea, Billy Hatcher, Rez and Viewtiful Joe. I got all of them on release day, except Rez... didn't have a PS2 when it came out.

My point isn't you're all greedy. My point isn't "OMG U TOOK ALL MY GAEMS!!1!". The point is why couldn't you have bought ANY of these hot titles from this deal before if you wanted them so bad? [/quote]

Dude, they were $4.99. Sure, some people flipped out and lost their minds, but cut us some slack. Most people probably were waiting for a deal like this to come along, which is why they didn't buy the games earlier. Let's face it -- deals like this don't come along every day, much less every month.

And yes, in spite of popular belief, not everyone can afford to buy games on release day. Take it from a struggling college student: deals such as this are MOST welcome. I get to buy very few games as it is, but this gave me a chance to pick up a few decent games for my Cube, and I was pretty darn excited.

So take a few deep breaths, let us CAGs have our day in the sun, and lighten up.
 
One thing that has to be remembered here is that a lot of the posters are really young. Some of them spoke in terms of depending on their parents for transportation to CC. For them $50 is a major purchase and even $30 requires saving up money for a good while, at least the ones without overindulgent parents. The prospect of $5 games drove them mad with gamelust.
 
[quote name='epobirs']One thing that has to be remembered here is that a lot of the posters are really young. Some of them spoke in terms of depending on their parents for transportation to CC. For them $50 is a major purchase and even $30 requires saving up money for a good while, at least the ones without overindulgent parents. The prospect of $5 games drove them mad with gamelust.[/quote]

Haha... gamelust.

I think I have some of that :)
 
Ok, I believe that some games are good, but not $50 worth. You wait until it goes down, it does then you buy it. This CC sale is the extreme. 5 dollars is crackhead prices. Find what you can, get what you want.
 
Which raises the question of whether anyone was so overwhelmed by the prospect of $5 they bought a game they'd be embarrassed to admit owning under most circumstances.

How many picked up Piglet's Big Game for non-existent children?
 
i've had no luck finding titles i want, but those hot titles you were talking about i did buy when they were 19.99+ the games i was actually hyped about were actually cheap ass games.

like x-men next dimension.. i just couldnt believe ppl wanted so much for that game, they'd be like i wanna trade this for your viewtiful joe.... dude i bought my VJ when it was $20 bucks and i jumped at that deal...

basiclly i back the OP up %30... this is CHEAPASSgamer after all...

(plug)

what i have.
GCN:
nhl hits 2003 (yep 2003)
tiger woods pga tour 2003
summoners: goddess reborn
pokemon colloseum bonus disc
hitman 2

Xbox:
Rocky

PS2:
freestyle metal x
dark summit

want:
x-men next dimension
pikmin
skies of arcadia

:lol:

.
 
If you;re picking up Piglets big adventure and you arnt dsiturbingly facinated with Winnie the Pooh or have kids they you;re buying it for the trad in value, it's just that simple, because it aint a great game.

But there are plenty of games out there that while they arnt horrible they ARE game you'd say "hey! it's only 5 bucks thats a great deal, I'd buy it for that" Dino Stalker? no I wouldnt pay 20 bucks for it, but for 5? yeah I would, and I did. Also even at 30 bucks sometimes you just dont feel right buying a new game. sometimes it;s because you have a few others to play and because of that you might miss out as the game dissapears from the shelves completly while you play others. Eventually you see it for a lower price, something you can justify to yourself that it wont put much of a hurting on your wallet to buy it now even though you have a bunch of others to play.

For some they can say "19 bucks Sure that wont hurt my wallet mych atleast now I'll have it" but for some it's STILL a bit much to plunk down on a game you want to get but may not immediatly get to play. I've missed out on a lot of old games in the past because I play a lot of games but I dont play them very fast, eventually games dropped in price but I still couldnt justify buying them on a meager allowance. Now I'm older I have my own savings and I'm tired of missing out. If I can find a game for a super cheap price that dosent kill my pocket that I'm even remotely intersted in I will go for it as hard as I can.



Piglet can stay on the shelf though.
 
[quote name='epobirs']Which raises the question of whether anyone was so overwhelmed by the prospect of $5 they bought a game they'd be embarrassed to admit owning under most circumstances.

How many picked up Piglet's Big Game for non-existent children?[/quote]

I got SX superstar thinking it might be good, but I've read the online reviews and Its going back to CC. I want my 5 bucks back. But I didn't buy alot of games I saw. That lame sumo game for gba, haunted mansion, loutus and a few others. Also it's funny how some people got games for consoles they don't even own. When I went to CC, I didn't even bother looking at the GC and ps2 section.
 
[quote name='Alpha2']If you;re picking up Piglets big adventure and you arnt dsiturbingly facinated with Winnie the Pooh or have kids they you;re buying it for the trad in value, it's just that simple, because it aint a great game.

But there are plenty of games out there that while they arnt horrible they ARE game you'd say "hey! it's only 5 bucks thats a great deal, I'd buy it for that" Dino Stalker? no I wouldnt pay 20 bucks for it, but for 5? yeah I would, and I did. Also even at 30 bucks sometimes you just dont feel right buying a new game. sometimes it;s because you have a few others to play and because of that you might miss out as the game dissapears from the shelves completly while you play others. Eventually you see it for a lower price, something you can justify to yourself that it wont put much of a hurting on your wallet to buy it now even though you have a bunch of others to play.

For some they can say "19 bucks Sure that wont hurt my wallet mych atleast now I'll have it" but for some it's STILL a bit much to plunk down on a game you want to get but may not immediatly get to play. I've missed out on a lot of old games in the past because I play a lot of games but I dont play them very fast, eventually games dropped in price but I still couldnt justify buying them on a meager allowance. Now I'm older I have my own savings and I'm tired of missing out. If I can find a game for a super cheap price that dosent kill my pocket that I'm even remotely intersted in I will go for it as hard as I can.

Piglet can stay on the shelf though.[/quote]

well put. so can tomb raider.


now look at my plug!

what i have.
GCN:
nhl hits 2003 (yep 2003)
tiger woods pga tour 2003
summoners: goddess reborn
pokemon colloseum bonus disc
hitman 2

Xbox:
Rocky

PS2:
freestyle metal x
dark summit

want:
x-men next dimension
pikmin
skies of arcadia

:)
 
Yes but you didn't know that SX Superstar was so horribly regarded going into the purchase. At the time it was a matter of securing it until you could consult the review and decide whether to keep it.

I mean games that make you feel conspicuous just going through the check-out stand. I had a situation like that when I came across the Barney game for the Sega Genesis being blown out and I knew a place that would give me an immediate $10 cash profit. It's like being made to shop for feminine hygeine products by your SO.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']The point is why couldn't you have bought ANY of these hot titles from this deal before if you wanted them so bad? [/quote]

because, like you, many of us have lots of games. i have games ive never played, im sure a few hundred others on this site do as well. why pay 50$ or 20$ for a game you may not get a chance to get into?

if you REALLY want it, you buy it. i bought disgaea when it came out, and honestly i was dissapointed with it, not that it was bad, just not my game. so natrually i didnt rush out to get la pucelle, but i did pick up la pucelle when it was 20$ at target and i love it so much, its so much more comprehendable than disgaea to me.

if a game sounds like a good idea, you wait. marvel capcom 2 is a good example. i wanted this game, however i already have mvc1 for dc, cvs2 for ps2 and ggxx for ps2, do i really need another 2d fighter at 30$?

it just has to do with what people value a game to be worth to them.
 
Ive gotten exceedingly cheap when it comes to buying games over the past year but i still buy the must have games on release day. I bought about 30 games at the CC sale, enough to keep me playing this generations game until the next gen systems drop in price.
 
I kinda agree with the OP's argument.

On one hand, I love any deal that I can get my hands on, but some people are out of control. I think that it's unfortunate that a lot of people use sites like these as an outlet to make a profit by selling the games they get their hands on, as opposed to getting the games you actually want to play. It really doesn't matter to me, but I can see why people are really upset when they see others walking out of a store with the last 4 copies of a game that they really wanted to play. But at the same time you can't really criticize them, because they have different values. Personally, I could have picked up multiple copies, and games for systems that I don't own, but I didn't because, first, it gets to be expensive, and secondly, it's stingy.

It does seem like a lot of people whine and complain on this site when they miss out on a deal. And like he said, if it was that big of a deal, why didn't you buy it before hand. I love free/almost free shit, but I will still pay full price for something that I really want. Also for people saying that it takes a lot to save $30-$50, I think that's a little bit ridiculous. It takes under a month, saving 2 dollars a day to get a full priced game. I remember when I was in high school and would save my lunch money, or part of it when I wanted to get a game. But whatever, to each its own.
 
You know one of the saddest things about my collection? I played the first ZOE and I liked it, sure it was hard but I expect that from konami games, buteventually beat it an later I went out and bought the second game brand new shortly after it was released from my local mom and pop shop for 5 bucks less than that EB or GS price. I felt pretty happy about that.

Unfortunatly with many other games in my collection already and having two systems and the GBA game that I wanted to play prior to the second game, suffice it to say that the most I did was put it in and watch the opening trailer movie then put it back in the box...

If I waited untill today I could have saved 40 bucks on ZOE 2 because CC is selling it for 5. The sadness is intense. But up well it just means that now some other games will have to make up for it. I would have bought many of these at full price but I waited and can now get them for 5 so as long as I get games I want it's like getting back the money I lost on ZOE 2.
 
re: OP

Ummm, I've wanted Disgaea, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and a lot of other games on the CC $5 list for a LONG time. Hell, I'm considering picking up the copy of MOTHERfuckING STEEL BATTALION ($180 after employee discount) that we have at work. You're just being a whiny, blubbering dumbass.
 
I really don't understand the OP's argument? Does he have something against paying 4.99 for a game instead of 30-50? Because that's really what it sounds like to me. Why in the bluest of blue hells would I pay significantly more for a game then it's worth? Also a lot of us here have HUGE game lists, lots of which we haven't touched. Why would most of us drop 30$-50$ on a game that we may have mild interest in, hell even great interest in, when we have 10 games still in shrink wrap to play? Now when you drop the price to 4.99 it makes it that much easier to purchase. I will agree with you on people buying like 50 titles. That just sucks, but it's their perorogative, and if they want to be greedy assholes then there is really not much we can do about it.
 
My two cents:

1. People have every right to go nuts about this sale. These prices are totally insane.

BUT

2. That doesn't mean that people should go nuts on each other. The level of pettiness on this site definitely shot up over the weekend. It seems to have calmed down now, but damn...

I think the general point is this: They're just games. Are they awesome, fun, superb games? Yes. Many of them are. But not owning Disgaea isn't going to destroy your life and it certainly isn't worth throwing out hateful comments to another human being.
 
With all the sales going on (Target's constant clerance sales, EB B&M selling new games for $2.99 a few months ago, the Best Buy clearance in May and the Circuit City sale), it makes it hard to justify spending more than $10 on a game. If I see a game that isn't rare and is more than $10, I'll probably think "Why buy it now when I can get it for $5 or $10 in a few months"

I did pay $27 for Rez when Bestbuy.com had it for $19.99 plus shipping 2 years ago though.

And when I know I won't be able to find a game for under $10, I will pay more if neccessary. I have a Japanese PS2 and of course imports are expensive. With the case of Keyboardmania II for example, I paid $63 for it (and that didn't include the $85 I spent on the Keyboard Controller with Keyboardmania 1). It wasn't one of those cases where I knew it would be $10 in a few months because I don't see being able to find it for under $50 for a long time (if at all). My point being that I will pay more than $5 for a game when neccessary but for the most part, it seems like it doesn't have to happen to often.
 
I went to 2 CCs and they didnt have any games I wanted. At one store I saw 6 fat, nerd-looking guys attacking the bin of $5 games like a freshly killed prey. As I was browsing thru the games, these guys we're pushing and droping stuff on the floor. I did a quick look and just left, I felt dirty.
 
There's absolutely nothing wrong with suddenly wanting games that dropped to $5 at CC. Since people got some fairly rare games for $5 each, they might be willing to sell for a little less than the norm, and at that lower price, it's totally understandable that someone might decide the game is worth it and want it. What I don't understand are those people who feel that because you got a game for cheap, you should sell it at a very low price. Someone who wants $30 for La Pucelle should not be criticized; likewise, don't be appalled by someone who won't take less than $40 for Disgaea. Too many users here get agitated when someone tries to turn a profit of a few dollars. We can help you find deals here at CAG, but we can't guarantee that you'll get them, so don't get mad if you have to fork over a few more bucks than you would've wanted.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']
What I'd like to point out is how rabid some people here became over certain tiles. Rez, Disgaea, Viewtiful Joe, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 come immediately to mind. Folks, waht's wrong with you? Why can't you go out and buy these We've been reporting $29.99 findings on this game all through 2004 from either CC or TRU! You want a game so bad you can't afford that? [/quote]

if we are so greedy why did the ppl who found out about this deal tell the CAG community um? why did eveyone not keep there mouth shut uh?
as well as economics there mr. regan
 
[quote name='punqsux']it just has to do with what people value a game to be worth to them.[/quote]

Exactly. Nothing more, nothing less - no matter the reason for wanting to own the game whether it be for trading, ebay or ... *gasp* ... playing.
 
I agree with the OP. I wanted cheap games, I got a few cheap games, but they are just games. People have gotten very vicious because of this stupid sale. I'm sorry but when a Circuit City Sale makes people lose all of their decency and dignity, it makes me sad for humanity.
 
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