CAG needs more mods.

PyroGamer

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Takes too long to get messes cleaned up on the Video Game Deals forum. Solution: more mods.

I'm sure there are some likely candidates. *cough cough*
 
I agree!

I used to be one, but my PC crashed and I couldn't get online for a few months and work had me uber busy which caused me NOT to be on nearly as I should as a mod.

Wouldn't mind being a mod once again, now that I got a good job with a set schedule and my PC is problem free.. ;)
 
[quote name='lilboo']Where's that at?[/QUOTE]
IDK. I'll look........
[quote name='Trakan']Remember what Cheapy says - Don't contact us, we'll contact you.[/QUOTE]
:lol:
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']well just because we would have more mods does not necessarily mean things would get better.[/QUOTE]
I vote for more The Don's and RegalSin's :lol:
 
[quote name='6669']I vote for more The Don's and RegalSin's :lol:[/QUOTE]


it would be "interesting" to see RegalSin edit peoples' posts. Normal text "insane babble" normal text
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']it would be "interesting" to see RegalSin edit peoples' posts. Normal text "insane babble" normal text[/QUOTE]
I can see his Yoda-esque, word placement already :lol:
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']well just because we would have more mods does not necessarily mean things would get better.[/quote]

QFT--it's the posters, not the mods...
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']well just because we would have more mods does not necessarily mean things would get better.[/quote]

?

So it would get worse? The site has had a huge jump in members but not in mods. It's pretty obvious that more mods are needed. Unless people really don't care about site quality.

[quote name='gunm']QFT--it's the posters, not the mods...[/quote]

Of course it's the posters, because there aren't enough mods to deal will all of them. There are almost 77,000 members (25,500 active) and just 9 mods. That's a lot to ask of 9 people.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']?

So it would get worse? The site has had a huge jump in members but not in mods. It's pretty obvious that more mods are needed. Unless people really don't care about site quality.



Of course it's the posters, because there aren't enough mods to deal will all of them. There are almost 77,000 members (25,500 active) and just 9 mods. That's a lot to ask of 9 people.[/QUOTE]
I don't think more mods are needed, and it has nothing to do with site quality. Usually when I log in, I see several mods visible on the front page, and what's the most users we've had on site simultaneously? 2,714? At any given moment, a healthy percentage of those are search bots anyway. That's a lot different than 77,000(25,500)/9...more than plenty if those mods are doing their task, and if the users are helping them by reporting bad posts. 2-3 visible mods per 300-500 non-searchbot online users is not a bad ratio, considering most of CAG is generally well behaved aside from a few spam threads here and there.

I do think more users just need to learn how to properly use the Report Bad Post button
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and to not bump spam threads. Any time I've reported a spam thread, it's usually dealt with almost immediately.
 
I think plenty of people know about and use the Report Bad Post button. Funnily enough, there was a recent thread in this forum complaining of the button being broken (probably from overuse ;)). Does this only email everybody on the moderation team, or does it PM them as well? The new PM pop-up would probably be the more efficient choice in notifying people.

I don't doubt that when WSB reports spam threads, that they are taken care of post haste. Although, I would bet that by coincidence, every time he has done so there was probably a "key player" moderator online at that time. I've seen reported spam threads last for hours, with certain moderators online and browsing for the entire time. It's not until one of the more active mod comes online that it's actually taken care of.

There may technically be 9 moderators, but are you telling me that all 9 of them do their job equally? Go through the moderator list, and for each one ask yourself, "Have I seen this person take any modly action recently? Have I even seen this person online lately? Do I feel that this person is actually making a difference in our community in a positive way?"

Granted, we have some mods that are online all the time and do their job well. I commend them for that too, and their efforts can be seen in CAG being as good as it is. But we also have some slackers, and for a site that's nearly 80,000 (30,000 active) strong, we need every one of our team to be on their A-Game. Currently, this isn't the case.

Edit:

Over the past year, nearly every single aspect of CAG has increased. The userbase has increased. CAG exposure and awareness across the gaming media has vastly increased. CAG awareness in the everyday world has increased (how many television news stations has Cheapy been on this year? Over 5?) The only thing that has been left stagnant is the moderation team, which should be growing with CAG as we grow as a website and a community.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']I don't think more mods are needed, and it has nothing to do with site quality. Usually when I log in, I see several mods visible on the front page, and what's the most users we've had on site simultaneously? 2,714? At any given moment, a healthy percentage of those are search bots anyway. That's a lot different than 77,000(25,500)/9...more than plenty if those mods are doing their task, and if the users are helping them by reporting bad posts. 2-3 visible mods per 300-500 non-searchbot online users is not a bad ratio, considering most of CAG is generally well behaved aside from a few spam threads here and there.

I do think more users just need to learn how to properly use the Report Bad Post button
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and to not bump spam threads. Any time I've reported a spam thread, it's usually dealt with almost immediately.[/quote]

When I logged in and reported messages the last few times there were no mods on. I reported a graphic porn post a few days ago and it was up for an hour and a half. I am not saying it is easy to catch everything, but to say more mods aren't needed strikes me as odd. Being proactive instead of reactive is always a sound strategy.


[quote name='evilmax17'] think plenty of people know about and use the Report Bad Post button. Funnily enough, there was a recent thread in this forum complaining of the button being broken (probably from overuse ;)). Does this only email everybody on the moderation team, or does it PM them as well? The new PM pop-up would probably be the more efficient choice in notifying people.

I don't doubt that when WSB reports spam threads, that they are taken care of post haste. Although, I would bet that by coincidence, every time he has done so there was probably a "key player" moderator online at that time. I've seen reported spam threads last for hours, with certain moderators online and browsing for the entire time. It's not until one of the more active mod comes online that it's actually taken care of.

There may technically be 9 moderators, but are you telling me that all 9 of them do their job equally? Go through the moderator list, and for each one ask yourself, "Have I seen this person take any modly action recently? Have I even seen this person online lately? Do I feel that this person is actually making a difference in our community in a positive way?"

Granted, we have some mods that are online all the time and do their job well. I commend them for that too, and their efforts can be seen in CAG being as good as it is. But we also have some slackers, and for a site that's nearly 80,000 (30,000 active) strong, we need every one of our team to be on their A-Game. Currently, this isn't the case.

Edit:

Over the past year, nearly every single aspect of CAG has increased. The userbase has increased. CAG exposure and awareness across the gaming media has vastly increased. CAG awareness in the everyday world has increased (how many television news stations has Cheapy been on this year? Over 5?) The only thing that has been left stagnant is the moderation team, which should be growing with CAG as we grow as a website and a community.[/quote]

evilmax17, you and I are in COMPLETE agreement.
 
I think you guys are complaing just cause you want to be mods. Take your Cagness to the next level. These guys are doing a fine job. Porn on a post for an hour, oh lord, thats a matter of national security, we need more mods.
Most spam threads I see turn into a little "in before the lock" party or just replying with something stupid. It could be a place to vent on someone or even another OTT. Its not something I would call a problem. If I was a mod I would be offended, whats with all the hate lately?
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']There are almost 77,000 members (25,500 active) and just 9 mods. That's a lot to ask of 9 people.[/quote]That sounds about right. I kid, I kid.

Those are great numbers to point out, Guile. Especially with a site like CAG where the demographics point to users who often require a more vigil eye than say, Cheap Bottom Bible Buyers. Even without the anonymitiy factor of online anything, a site with this focus could use a healthy moderation team.

[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Usually when I log in, I see several mods visible on the front page[/quote] But you're mistaking being on for being actively moderating. Just because I see wubb or shrike on or in a forum, doesn't mean they're reading each thread hunting down trouble. It could just be that they're checking for a good price on Resistance or what deals Amazon will have next.

I actually see more mods in the Lifestyle & Off-Topic forum doing what a lot of us do, relax and kill some time. That's not a slight against them, it's just to point out that just because a mod team is up, it doesn't mean they suddenly have an inate ability to see every troublesome issue and post simply by being online.

More eyes would mean a better chance of catching something before it becomes problematic. But that doesn't always mean more Mods. It often means more CAGs reporting problms as they see them. Either by the Report Button, or PM. I more often shoot a PM over to a mod I'm comfortable with (basically any mod I've run into within threads) if I see they are actually online at that moment.

As someone who's run a site years back, I would guess that the mods here might appreciate one or two more to help out, so each of the active Mod Team will feel less of a strain and the possibility of burn-out is lessened.

But on the whole usually a team is content to have a responsible community who reports the problems as they see them, rather than assume a mod will catch it right away themselves.

EDIT: [quote name='DeathDealer']Porn on a post for an hour, oh lord, thats a matter of national security, we need more mods.[/quote] If this were solely a private site without sponsors that probably wouldn't be a huge problem for Cheapy. But this site DOES have sponsors and as such, needs to maintain a certain image.
 
[quote name='DeathDealer']I think you guys are complaing just cause you want to be mods. Take your Cagness to the next level. These guys are doing a fine job. Porn on a post for an hour, oh lord, thats a matter of national security, we need more mods.
Most spam threads I see turn into a little "in before the lock" party or just replying with something stupid. It could be a place to vent on someone or even another OTT. Its not something I would call a problem. If I was a mod I would be offended, whats with all the hate lately?[/quote]

Facetious statements aside...

I am pointing things out from the experience of seeing this site grow from 2003 until now. There are things that are showing up more regularly now that never showed up before you joined. All I am saying is lets nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand. Mods have no need to be offended. The whole point of the feedback forum is to give feedback. All we are saying is get a few more mods which is pretty reasonable. Would it really be a detriment to add three or four more?

[quote name='guinaevere']More eyes would mean a better chance of catching something before it becomes problematic. But that doesn't always mean more Mods. It often means more CAGs reporting problms as they see them. Either by the Report Button, or PM. I more often shoot a PM over to a mod I'm comfortable with (basically any mod I've run into within threads) if I see they are actually online at that moment.

As someone who's run a site years back, I would guess that the mods here might appreciate one or two more to help out, so each of the active Mod Team will feel less of a strain and the possibility of burn-out is lessened.

[/quote]

Exactly.

Also, reporting more posts just means more messages for mods to review. All that does in increase mod workload anyway so there may as well be a few more mods to spread that out.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']
Also, reporting more posts just means more messages for mods to review.[/quote] eh. When I send a PM it's pretty brief. "Holla, this thread (or specific post) may be a problem. best regards, gwen the irritating" And as I noted, if I see a mod online at the moment, I only send it to one. If they see no problems, then I've only wasted about 60 seconds of one persons time.

All that does in increase mod workload anyway so there may as well be a few more mods to spread that out.
From our point of view, I'm in agreement. Numbers alone indicate they could use a couple more. But that's just from what we see, Guile. If they feel short-handed I'm sure they've discussed the possibility of increasing their numbers.
 
CAG Fun Fact: Way back in the day when CAG started, we had MODS specific to the forum. I was the Xbox Mod ^_^b

Ahh. Good times. I really forget who else we had. It was me and a few others. When I say few I'm pretty sure it was just like 4 of us.
 
[quote name='lilboo']CAG Fun Fact: Way back in the day when CAG started, we had MODS specific to the forum. I was the Xbox Mod ^_^b

Ahh. Good times. I really forget who else we had. It was me and a few others. When I say few I'm pretty sure it was just like 4 of us.[/quote]

I remember there was SS4Brolly, NintendoFanGirl, Punqsux..
 
Honestly, I don't think we need more mods; we need to adjust things to make it more difficult for spammers to post, which we are doing. Once that goes into place, this surge in spam will die down and judging by this thread and the previous mod poll, it appears as though CAGS really don't have a problem with the mods, but they do with spam.
 
[quote name='shipwreck']Honestly, I don't think we need more mods; we need to adjust things to make it more difficult for spammers to post, which we are doing. Once that goes into place, this surge in spam will die down and judging by this thread and the previous mod poll, it appears as though CAGS really don't have a problem with the mods, but they do with spam.[/QUOTE]


i have signed on to sites when you register you have to put in one of those randomly generated number/letter combos. I think that would work well against the bots at least.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']i have signed on to sites when you register you have to put in one of those randomly generated number/letter combos. I think that would work well against the bots at least.[/quote]

Oh lord. Those things piss me off to no end. Although i'm on auto-login. It wouuld be worse if we had to do that thing for every post.
 
[quote name='Gustav Holst']Oh lord. Those things piss me off to no end. Although i'm on auto-login. It wouuld be worse if we had to do that thing for every post.[/QUOTE]

He meant when you register for a site.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']He meant when you register for a site.[/quote]In other words, none of us would have to do it.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']?

So it would get worse? The site has had a huge jump in members but not in mods. It's pretty obvious that more mods are needed. Unless people really don't care about site quality.



Of course it's the posters, because there aren't enough mods to deal will all of them. There are almost 77,000 members (25,500 active) and just 9 mods. That's a lot to ask of 9 people.[/quote]

Here here! Of course I've been tootin my own horn for awhile, but still this site definitely has been in need of more mods for some time. The increase that I've seen in spam posts is quite tremendous and I'm not even on here as much as I once was. Personally, if I was the one choosing, I'd probably put you and zewone at the top of the list and then little ol' me;)
 
The people saying we need more mods is comparable to taking a shit and excepting someone to wipe their ass. This is a community we all have to work together to make it a better place. Use the bad post button, and a mod will take care of it when they get a chance. Just because a porn post sat up for an hour doesn't mean to much to me. Hell I get worse in my spam folder. Plus with the demographic here I'm pretty sure we all watch/see porn on a regular basis.

I don't think we need more mods until the mods we have feel overloaded. Then its up to them to ask Cheapy for a new mod. Its not about how big this site is, its about how good our mods are.

The most people online was 2700. of that 2700 I dare say 3-5 of those people need moderation (spam more then likely.) So what we have almost 80,000 members and 25,000 active. It seems like only the same 150 people post.

Right now I feel we have enough, and they all do their job just fine IMO. Every spam thread I've reported gets took care of quickly.
 
[quote name='CitizenB']The people saying we need more mods is comparable to taking a shit and excepting someone to wipe their ass. This is a community we all have to work together to make it a better place. Use the bad post button, and a mod will take care of it when they get a chance. Just because a porn post sat up for an hour doesn't mean to much to me. Hell I get worse in my spam folder. Plus with the demographic here I'm pretty sure we all watch/see porn on a regular basis.

I don't think we need more mods until the mods we have feel overloaded. Then its up to them to ask Cheapy for a new mod. Its not about how big this site is, its about how good our mods are.

The most people online was 2700. of that 2700 I dare say 3-5 of those people need moderation (spam more then likely.) So what we have almost 80,000 members and 25,000 active. It seems like only the same 150 people post.

Right now I feel we have enough, and they all do their job just fine IMO. Every spam thread I've reported gets took care of quickly.[/QUOTE]

What I think everyone is trying to say is that if there's a few more around, then the chances of a spam post getting deleted quicker is obviously greater.

I see your point, and pretty much everyone here has valid points. It's not so much them, it's the people who post---but not everyone is going to post the best stuff, so a few more mods wouldn't hurt to have to tk care of those problems.
 
I think the mods do a great job. I do, however, wish that sticky theads would be taken care of better. Stuff like updating GH/PC/PH lists, un-sticking dead theads, etc. That's my only beef.
 
There seems to be two camps of us CAGs in here...those who vehemently desire more moderation, and well, those of us who...don't.

But...

...what about a compromise in the form of a few low-powered helpers, like "mini-moderators?" Mini-Mods could have some of the more basic mod functions, such as the ability to move or lock (but not delete or edit) trouble/spam threads. Full moderators could then remove the worst offender threads at their convienence and deal with banning users upon further review, but Mini-Mods could call time-out on immediate situations.

I think we've got enough mods with the big-boy tools, but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a few helpers who can assist when things fall through the cracks.

EDIT: At least until a spam-registration filter goes into place, like Shipwreck said. Then it's a moot point.
 
My only deal has been with some of the trolls around the site, not so much spam. Although I like mods for certain sections of the forum a little better, the team we have now is doing a good job. I don't think we need more mods
especially a few of the people showing much interest in being mods
.
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']My only deal has been with some of the trolls around the site, not so much spam. [/QUOTE]

This is my issue too.

Spam isn't that bad because you can report it and it will be dealt with pretty quickly.

Alot of the console subforums though are infested with transparent trolls who only post to stir up shit and there's really no mods in any of these forums.

What I would like to see isn't necessarily more mods but the return of forum specific mods. Just 1 person who is a regular at the forum given the keys to police a little bit.

There is no reason we should see post like this in any of the forums.

[quote name='Blitz']
I've watches 3 of my friends buy the ShitBox 360 and watched every one of them break. The troubles they had trying to get it fixed made me realize I made the right choice in swearing off any console made by M$.[/QUOTE]


It's GameFAQs worthy.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']There seems to be two camps of us CAGs in here...those who vehemently desire more moderation, and well, those of us who...don't.[/quote]

Just like Marvel's Civil War! I'm with Captain America!
 
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