Got fired over the Best Buy B2G1 promo

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[quote name='beakey56']I am just wondering what your guys thoughts are on this and if anyone else from another Best Buy got in trouble over this. I'm going to be talking to a lawyer about either getting my games or my job back. I don't think it is fair that they made me return those games if they were just going to fire me. I also don't really think this is fair since technically I was just a customer at BB, I didn't even use my employee numbers. To me this was just me taking an advantage of a sale and I didn't do anything wrong.[/QUOTE]

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Lawyers will not help you. You cannot build a case if you knew about the glitch and took advantage of it. Like the report said, you did not take corrective action to solve the problem. Sorry, that you lost your job. I recommend not to put BB as a reference.
 
OP, consider it "lesson learned" and move on.
Find a holiday job and DON'T mentioned that you were fired or even worked at Best Buy, if possible. It's highly unlikely that anyone from the HR dept. of job that is holiday only is going to bother to follow up with that type of background check.

And it goes without saying, but you got what you deserved for opening your big fat mouth.:roll::wall::headache::censored::^o:shame:

...And worse, you were dumb enough to confess online where the whole world can see it.#-o
 
[quote name='muhsheesuh']Don't leave a trail next time. Don't use your reward zone card or any credit cards. Pay in cash only.
I don't really see anything illegal about this since the system error was Best Buy's fault. You did not steal anything, you merely paid for items that rang up for a certain price at a register.
Like mentioned earlier, you should have lawyered up as soon as they brought up the subject.[/QUOTE]

Ever hear of insider trading?
 
[quote name='cod4rulez4']Ever hear of insider trading?[/QUOTE]

Uhhhh, wrong. That's not insider trading. Not even close. Insider trading involves stock purchases/sales and people with inside knowledge of a company. This guy bought video games and worked as a Best Buy monkey. Not the same thing.
 
[quote name='BingoBrown']Uhhhh, wrong. That's not insider trading. Not even close. Insider trading involves stock purchases/sales and people with inside knowledge of a company. This guy bought video games and worked as a Best Buy monkey. Not the same thing.[/QUOTE]

Well it's not exactly, but the theory is still there. I can only assume he means that he used information that may or may not have come to him due to his employment at Best Buy and he used it for financial gain FROM Best Buy. Similar, but not exact.
 
Guys, the OP is not CRIMINALLY liable/actionable at all. However, he could potentially be taken to civil court for attempting to defraud the company, had he kept the games they could have most definitely chosen to go after him in civil court. Not that they would, as it would most likely be small potatoes and a small claims matter.

However, it would be up to Best Buy legal and whether they would choose to argue something like "he caused substantial monetary loss to the company by not fulfilling his employment obligations/fiduciary duty to report the glitch when he was informed about it above and beyond the actual monetary loss he directly caused (~$50x10)" blah blah blah.

Either way, no lawyer worth a damn would bother with his pennyante case, and no way in hell is he getting his job (or his ill gotten games) back.
 
[quote name='karkyco']Guys, the OP is not CRIMINALLY liable/actionable at all. However, he could potentially be taken to civil court for attempting to defraud the company, had he kept the games they could have most definitely chosen to go after him in civil court. Not that they would, as it would most likely be small potatoes and a small claims matter.

However, it would be up to Best Buy legal and whether they would choose to argue something like "he caused substantial monetary loss to the company by not fulfilling his employment obligations/fiduciary duty to report the glitch when he was informed about it above and beyond the actual monetary loss he directly caused (~$50x10)" blah blah blah.

Either way, no lawyer worth a damn would bother with his pennyante case, and no way in hell is he getting his job (or his ill gotten games) back.[/QUOTE]

I don't really care if hes criminally liable or not. I just think he's an idiot. :bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:
 
Pck21 and BingoBrown are both correct. You should always seek legal representation if you feel you were wronged (even if it is your fault). It doesn't cost you anything for a lawyer to hear your case.

I use to work in Advertising for one of the biggest retail chains in the US. We made countless number of errors (glitches,etc) that were taken advantage of by employees as well as customers. Most employees who were caught were fired (some escorted out by police, some without incident). However, when a terminated employee got legal representation, we got scared.

No company needs bad press (especially from an error the terminated employee did not create, but only utilized for his advantage).

Most (if not all) cases were "settled" in one form or another (we do not like going to court nor the negative press it could possibly create).

However, if you are seeking a lawyer to:

1. Get your job back, forget about it. It's never going to happen.
2. Drop any charges they might pin you with, a possibility (there a tons of terms they can use to describe your dismissal instead of theft which will help you out when seeking another job).

Since you got "friends" in on this and told them such, you just have to ask yourself is it worth it. You play this the wrong way and they will try to charge you with every "glitch sale" that occured within 100 miles of your location (and if your friends grabbed even half of what you scored, I think it qualifies for a grand theft charge). Not because you told that many people, but to make an example out of you to present and future BB employees.

Good Luck with whatever you decide.

And don't feel too bad. I'm 100% positive after they see how much money they've lost, their POS Systems Crew will get their walking papers also. 2 glitches in 2 months is unacceptable (X-Blades and now this).
 
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[quote name='atomicmudkitten']On a not so related note. Whats with BB not letting me use DJ hero as on of the Buy 2 games? Me purchasing $200 worth of kit should be good enough but alas no only $59 game counted.[/QUOTE]
FWIW, I was able to get DJ Hero as part of the deal. Grabbed Demon's Souls and the recent PS3 Katamari game with it, and they manually deducted Katamari's $50 price.
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']They did not fire you because of illegal activity. They fired you because you are a shitty employee.[/QUOTE]

End the thread right there. You honestly think that Best Buy wants someone that will take advantage of a glitch in their system that it appears they could do nothing about? It's bad enough that customers were doing it, but then you had to go and do it! And then invite ALL your friends to do it on top of that! You tried to play Best Buy with that, and they played you way worse.

That being said...you probably should seek a higher education. Dumb criminals rarely stay free for long...
 
The worst thing is that if you did actually buy 20 Rock Revolutions for $100, and got ONLY $60 games for free (no $40 ones or anything), you technically got $600 worth of video games for free. Try getting $700 worth of games for $100, or anything for that matter, and see how well it goes over. Like it's been said before, you're lucky all you're getting at this point is fired.
 
A. Either don't pull this shit.
or
B. Don't tell your co-workers you pulled this shit off. Do not trust anyone, especially at the retail level. They don't give a shit about you and would jump over themselves to take your hours, even if it seems like you may be friends.

I had the same shit (not really) happen to me at BB a few years ago. I told a co-worker I thought about leaving, 2 days later, I get asked into a meeting with the GM and my supervisor, they say we heard rumors you wanted to leave, I say yup, I left that day.

The really funny thing is, that fat piece of shit who told either the GM or supervisor I wanted to leave, STILL works at Best Buy. That was roughly 7 years ago and he' still copping that blue shirt.
 
[quote name='beakey56']To me this was just me taking an advantage of a sale and I didn't do anything wrong.[/QUOTE]

Did you even read what you wrote?
 
Crazy. How a person can justify thinking that they didn't do anything wrong in doing something like this is beyond me. It has to be some REEEEAAL twisted logic.

If you didn't realize it's supposed to be the cheapest game that is free, you're either ten or borderline retarded, in which case you shouldn't be working at Best Buy or you should be working at Best Buy under adult supervision.

As long as you know that it's supposed to be the cheapest game, you're using a loophole you found to bite the hand that was feeding you. You were essentially stealing, although that depends on the definition, by taking money that should've gone to Best Buy and knowingly having it go to your own pockets, instead.

You're lucky to have gotten off so easily.
 
it's funny, most people have things they can take advantage of at the place they work. But is it ever worth losing your job? Usually not.

So at the very least I hope the OP learned a lesson. Are your actions worth the risk? Usually not.
 
You got caught with your pants down, op. Cut your losses, be cooperative with Best Buy, and just cross your fingers and hope that you're lucky enough to get a job somewhere else.
 
I have worked at a retail store and have been in a similar(not exactly the same) situation. I , like many associates, watch for clearance items for certain types of items. When things like computers, tvs, cameras, cpus, motherboards, etc go disco they drop in price rapidly. I once bought approx 45 of a cpu that was recently over 100.00 and dropped to half price. At the time that I purchased them they were hard to find and in high demand. I was not on the clock(on my days off and after work ) and would buy 10 to 15 at a time to re-sell on fleabay. I bought these at my store and 2 other stores. After going to 1 of the other stores a manager that knew me and saw I was buying these negative profit items he called my store manager and complained. I was then hauled in to the office next day after they ran a search and found out I about about 15 and asked me what was going on. I had to write an apology letter to the home office and was told to contuniue working until they heard back . The director of operations called back to my store manager and just said that I didnt do anything wrong. I didn't use my employee discount ,i was not on the clock and didnt use any internal influence(hiding or keeping others from purchasing) to get these items so there was no problems. He said the stores needed to get rid of them and I did! That was years ago , but any time after that my purchases have been periodically checked. I now get others to buy things for me just not to be of notice. It was stupid of me to get myself noticed by being GREEDY like OP , but I made atleast $xxxx.xx in 1 month profit off of different things.
 
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So uhh... I got hired over the Best Buy B2G1 promo.

I told them that I got a $60 game for like $10. They said I had a lot of intelligence to trick the system, thus, they wanted to hire me. :)
 
[quote name='Perfect*Ending']So uhh... I got hired over the Best Buy B2G1 promo.

I told them that I got a $60 game for like $10. They said I had a lot of intelligence to trick the system, thus, they wanted to hire me. :)[/QUOTE]

I got my 60.00 game for free. I bought 3 60.00 games and just returned the 2 60.00 and kept the free ones. I also bought 3 and sold the 2 i didnt want for regular price and kept the rewardzone points.
 
[quote name='Squarehard']Can't say you didn't set yourself up by bragging to your friends about it. Not to mention, why would you go to different Best Buys to do it. Not exactly the smartest thing to do, and not to mention, just because there is a glitch, does not mean you have the right to exploit it regardless if you work there or not. Can't say that I feel sorry for you. Next time just keep your mouth shut and don't bring your friends to tag along with you to exploit from your own company. Got to be smarter than that. And if not, I hope you get fired at all of your next retail jobs until you learn.[/QUOTE]

Exactly what I was thinking.
 
[quote name='beakey56']
I am just wondering what your guys thoughts are on this and if anyone else from another Best Buy got in trouble over this. I'm going to be talking to a lawyer about either getting my games or my job back. I don't think it is fair that they made me return those games if they were just going to fire me. I also don't really think this is fair since technically I was just a customer at BB, I didn't even use my employee numbers. To me this was just me taking an advantage of a sale and I didn't do anything wrong.[/QUOTE]

As a shareholder of BBY, I must say that your actions have affected my investment. You ruined my current savings and potential future increase in the compan's equity that could have been had had you not stolen off of my investment's assets. As such, you ruined my upcoming holiday since BBY will not be able to generate as much income (because of you) and I, the equityholder, will not be able to sell my shares at the price that I was hoping for (because of you) before the black friday. So I will not have enough money to buy gifts, Butterball turkey, let alone, UNDERWEARs for my cousins. Thanks alot. Babies are gonna cry and cats are gonna die because of you. :cry:

P.S. Pun intended. I will not be liable nor responsible for the post above.

P.S. #2: You really should not have done what you have done.
 
Girls, this is the same as stealing. We will call it indirect stealing. He basically took the two cheap games and then "stole" the $60 dollar game knowingly. This is no different then lets say a freight company has a shipment come to my house and delivers several stock of merchandise and then I don't report it and proceed to sell or get rid of it or whatever. That would be stealing indirectly which is punishable by law. Had he not returned the games, he would more than likely have criminal charges brought up against him.
 
3 thoughts on this.

1 - They had just reason to fire you. You should have told them of the glitch since as an employee you are supposed to be representing their interests.

2- No point in getting a lawyer. Lawyers are very expensive and usually not worth the trouble.

3- The only thing I think you should have done is negotiate a contract that if you return the games and attempt to persuede your friends to do so that you cannot be disciplined as a result of this. If they disagreed, walk away and sell your games on Ebay, you'd know at that point their going to fire you.
 
I just think its funny he gave the games back. You really think that you were keeping your job after getting caught? At least keep the goods haha.

I hope you didn't think that giving the games back would save your job...
 
[quote name='spidergraf']I have worked at a retail store and have been in a similar(not exactly the same) situation. I , like many associates, watch for clearance items for certain types of items. When things like computers, tvs, cameras, cpus, motherboards, etc go disco they drop in price rapidly. I once bought approx 45 of a cpu that was recently over 100.00 and dropped to half price. At the time that I purchased them they were hard to find and in high demand. I was not on the clock(on my days off and after work ) and would buy 10 to 15 at a time to re-sell on fleabay. I bought these at my store and 2 other stores. After going to 1 of the other stores a manager that knew me and saw I was buying these negative profit items he called my store manager and complained. I was then hauled in to the office next day after they ran a search and found out I about about 15 and asked me what was going on. I had to write an apology letter to the home office and was told to contuniue working until they heard back . The director of operations called back to my store manager and just said that I didnt do anything wrong. I didn't use my employee discount ,i was not on the clock and didnt use any internal influence(hiding or keeping others from purchasing) to get these items so there was no problems. He said the stores needed to get rid of them and I did! That was years ago , but any time after that my purchases have been periodically checked. I now get others to buy things for me just not to be of notice. It was stupid of me to get myself noticed by being GREEDY like OP , but I made atleast $xxxx.xx in 1 month profit off of different things.[/QUOTE]

Thats actually rather different though. When I was at my Best Buy, my managers could care less how many clearance items I bought. When the second generation nanos were on their way in, our store had to get rid of all of our first generation nanos, and we had about 30 of them, so I asked my manager that I'll buy them all if he gives me a big discount. We ended up working out a 65% discount off all of them and I did the exact same thing you did and resold them on eBay or to friends for massive profit. But in my case it was different, because I actually asked my manager. I think that is really the biggest thing. Even if you are going to do something shady, at least see how shady it is first. I always put these things by my managers first, and they always have no problem with it. Given I was at that store for 3 years when that happened so I was pretty settled in, for clearance items, its really just about asking someone. It's isnt a glitch in the system so its not like you were exploiting and ripping off your own company since at-risk items keep losing money anyways if they don't sell, as you know ;P. But the final thought is still, the op is an idiot :D
 
[quote name='Arakias']close your own thread beakey![/QUOTE]

He hasnt been back since a couple of days ago since everybody laughed him off the forums. I heard that he went to slickdeals to try for better luck with sympathy, lol.
 
[quote name='Squarehard']I don't really care if hes criminally liable or not. I just think he's an idiot. :bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:[/QUOTE]

I think just about everyone that's replied to this thread is in agreement with you! I know I am!!!
 
Let me ask you a simple question.

Did you suspect that there could be A CHANCE you could be suspended/punished for your actions?

If the answer is yes you know why you were fired.
 
[quote name='karkyco']I think just about everyone that's replied to this thread is in agreement with you! I know I am!!![/QUOTE]i think there were 3-4 people who completly agreed with the OP and maybe 5-6 who feel bad for OP but don't agree with him. but yeah 95% of this thread would slap him in the head.
 
It's mind boggling that we have the main 109-page thread detailing how mutitude of people took advantage of the glitch and proudly bragged about it, and yet no borderline theft was thought of.

I guess the OP got slapped hard in the face just because he went really overboard (10 purchases and that's not including his friends' purchases), and mainly he was biting the hand that fed him.

To OP. Had you not been the employee but a regular devil customer, you would have received far less negative comments. Since you were an employee exploiting your own company, you got pwnd.
 
[quote name='Squarehard']He hasnt been back since a couple of days ago since everybody laughed him off the forums. I heard that he went to slickdeals to try for better luck with sympathy, lol.[/QUOTE]

Like I always tell my Dad, If he wants sympathy look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.
 
[quote name='caltab']You were most likely an at will employee, unless you signed a contract. If you were at will BB can fire you for any reason at all, unless its illegal(like gender discrimination). Clearly, in this case their reason was not an illegal one-even if it wasn't theft you cost them money by exploiting a glitch you discovered on the job. Even if you weren't at will, they would have had grounds to fire you. Also, I don't think there is any way you can get those games back given you voluntarily returned them. Your main concern should be future job prospects after getting fired for improper behavior.[/QUOTE]

But from the tone of his post and the professionalism he displayed through his actions (by returning the games and making his friends do that too), this guy is clearly in a position where BB would want to sign him to a contract. I hope he nails them in court for violating his rights!!!


[quote name='OnyxPrimal']Like I always tell my Dad, If he wants sympathy look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.[/QUOTE]

Isn't that called the "chin rest"?
 
[quote name='OnyxPrimal']Like I always tell my Dad, If he wants sympathy look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.[/QUOTE]

Oh, that's what you TELL your dad?!? Aren't you so mature, lol, you actually sound pretty immature if that's how you talk to your dad. Maybe you meant that is what your dad TELLS you.

Anyways, I love all the CAG'ers that try to sound so self righteous by saying "you got what you deserved for running your mouth". As if everyone who said that is an actual BETTER person since they would have done it and NOT opened their mouth. Ripping off their employer doesn't make you a bad person UNLESS you run your mouth?? Is that how it works?? Wow, what a pile of compromised integrity by fellow cheap asses who throw stones. Awesome.

And I do agree that this kid is just immature and that the losers he hangs around probably did give him a bunch of sympathy because they sort of felt bad that they now have $10 brand new games, while he has no games and no job now and he thinks that others on this site will feel bad for him too since his loser friends do. Well, I am glad that as a whole people don't feel sorry for this guy because he doesn't deserve sympathy. And I don't feel sorry for him because he "OPENED his mouth", but because he ripped off the hand that feeds him. That's his problem. But I will say that he did somewhat show a sparkle of good in him by confessing and telling the truth, BUT that does NOT mean that he should keep his job, and Best Buy did the right thing by moving on to the next person waiting to get an honest job in a world where GOOD people are losing jobs when they have never mistreated their employers.
 
There's this new thing going around. It's mind blowing in it's simplicity, and yet not many people adhere to it yet. Sounds like the OP could have done that as well and not have lost his job. I know any retailer would love to have people adhere to it that work there. It's called honesty. What you did was dishonest, you got caught, and you got fired.

I recently had an issue where a former employer of mine suspected me of stealing a decent amount of money. I was honest with them when I told them I didn't take it, and worked with them to resolve the issue. When my employment was terminated with them for a different reason (my location had closed), they had no recourse to prevent me from gaining unemployment benefits, and I can still use them as a positive job reference.
 
Hopefully OP learned a lesson here.

This question is for anyone who's worked at Best Buy before - would you tell the manager about a guy like the OP?
 
I loled. You were gonna get your ass fired anyway, so you should have kept the games. Best Buy isn't some small time company where every worker is part of the "family" or "team", it's a huge ass corporation. They squeezed out information from you, had you returned the games, and pretty much confess a crime and breach of contract. No company is going to keep a part-time employee around who's taken advantage of the company for personal and financial gain, not in this economy. You got used, like a cheap, ugly hooker.

I also feel no sympathy for the OP. Sure, if it was just a one time thing to grab that awesome game you really wanted but couldn't afford (assuming since you're working part-time at WorstBuy), it would have been alright. But no, you exploited the opportunity and did it 10+ times and told all your friends about it. Great job, dumb ass, hope you enjoy unemployment and no games to show for it.
 
Must have sucked to say good-bye to all your BB buddies under those conditions. Cry me a rivier. I usually don't do trash talk on CAG as this is a deal site, as such, most threads are about a deal, and users here are generally nice and give thanks for those that post deals. I consider most, if not all, users on CAG my friends, as they have save me much moneys. Special thanks to Cheapy D and Shipwreck for their opinions on some games that sucked bad... saving me more moneys. But the nerve of some people, bragging about gitches, abusing gitches, and telling their friends about gitches. Hoarders like you never think about the community. It messes it up for the rest of us that just want one copy on sale. Chances are, those stores will be hold less sales worthy of posting on CAG. Thanks a lot idiot. What is this, your first thread on CAG?, and is not even about saving other CAGs money. Move on troll.
 
Maybe one of your friends will let you have a copy of rock revolution to play!


[quote name='eau']It's mind boggling that we have the main 109-page thread detailing how mutitude of people took advantage of the glitch and proudly bragged about it, and yet no borderline theft was thought of.

I guess the OP got slapped hard in the face just because he went really overboard (10 purchases and that's not including his friends' purchases), and mainly he was biting the hand that fed him.

To OP. Had you not been the employee but a regular devil customer, you would have received far less negative comments. Since you were an employee exploiting your own company, you got pwnd.[/QUOTE]

I think the real point is he's an idiot who worked there and got caught. I am quite sure there are many other cag's who exploited this as much as the op. Whether a person exploited this or not is an ethical choice and to each their own. I noticed he is in the target thread and posting on a target board about the wii coupon's. Personally, if you don't like something go about your business and keep your mouth shut. Personally, I believe the companies should fix these problems. There is no excuse for these types of mistakes. If they don't take the time to ensure evrything works the way it is meant they will be taken advantage of by the savvy consumers or as some might say "crooks".
 
I can't believe that I read all 10 pages of this damn thread...

I have very little sympathy for Best Buy OR the OP in this situation. Best Buy knew thee was a problem due to previous sales. Their store policy (applies to the cheapest game, limit xx, No Dealers) does not constitute law. It governs their right to refuse a sale to you if they desire. Additionally, by knowing there was an issue but not closing the loophole, they are giving their tacit approval of the usage of said glitch. Tacit approval is when you know a problem exists, but do nothing about it.

The OP should have known that BB would not be happy about his usage of the glitch. He deserved to be fired. I do, however, feel bad for any cashier that rang these up, but didn't take advantage of said glitch, that may be fired. I would imagine that there are a fair number of cashiers out there that would have had NO IDEA that something strange was happening. I would also imagine that if I had worked in BB, I would have let the sale go. I doubt that I would have cared enough to alert anyone of it. I would not, however, been dumb enough to take advantage of it - due to the fact that I would figure upon a firing if I were found out.
 
First rule of schemin', never tell a soul or get anyone else involved. It's always your "friends" that get you caught up. That is all.
 
You used a loophole in order to circumvent the rules of a promotion at a store you work at. Definitely something you can (and did) get fired for.
 
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