I remember when Romney was mocked by Obama for taking Putin seriously...

LOLOL SO classic.

Once again another reason to not take DohDough seriously. He just keeps repeating himself and adding nothing new to the conversation, he has yet to admit to being wrong.
I'm asking specific questions and bringing up issues in regards to your OP, which you've been continually avoiding. So yeah, of course I'm repeating myself because you seem to not understand what I'm saying after saying it at least 2 different ways.

So you are saying the thread was not 22 pages?
I provided links to FOUR threads. They were 18 posts, 224 posts, 25 posts, and 38 posts each. It's not a lot of fucking reading when you only need to skim 3 out of the 4 threads for your own bullshit. The longer thread can be searched through...wait for it...THE SEARCH FUNCTION.

But hey, I get it: you don't want to take responsibility for your posts because they are on the lamer side of lame-osity.
 
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I'm asking specific questions and bringing up issues in regards to your OP, which you've been continually avoiding. So yeah, of course I'm repeating myself because you seem to not understand what I'm saying after saying it at least 2 different ways.
I am not avoiding ANYTHING you on the other hand or avoiding this entire thread which shows Obama to be a liar and a total dunce for trying to make fun of Romney on Russia being a serious threat.

Until you admit to that then nothing else you say matters because you keep bringing up irrelevant BS as usual.

But hey I get it, you are a hardcore liberal troll, that is your schtick.

You also totally missed why I made that post to begin with, you are bashing others for putting up a troll meme, when you constantly do it yourself. SO BY YOUR OWN DEFINTION, you have nothing to contribute. My god it is so easy to make you look like an ass.
 
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I am not avoiding ANYTHING you on the other hand or avoiding this entire thread which shows Obama to be a liar and a total dunce for trying to make fun of Romney on Russia being a serious threat.

Until you admit to that then nothing else you say matters because you keep bringing up irrelevant BS as usual.

But hey I get it, you are a hardcore liberal troll, that is your schtick.

You also totally missed why I made that post to begin with, you are bashing others for putting up a troll meme, when you constantly do it yourself. SO BY YOUR OWN DEFINTION, you have nothing to contribute. My god it is so easy to make you look like an ass.
"Avoiding the entire thread," you say?

In this thread:

TC constantly bitches about Obama being virtually a fascist dictator and then creates a thread about Obama being a foreign policy pussy while wanting a more authoritarian President.

Can't make this shit up, fellas... :rofl:

Like seriously, what can Obama do? Invade the country? The best he can do is convince the EU to use soft power to dissuade Putin from going too crazy.


It's almost as if you don't understand what you're reading...

What does my support(for Obama), or lack of it, have to do with your argument about people wanting a president that's more authoritarian, like Putin, as opposed to impotent, like Obama, AFTER the fact that you've consistently made him out to be a fascist dictator that's turning the US into a socialist plutocracy?

I'm telling you to back up your OP. Seriously, what the fuck do you think the Cold War was? And how are they bigger than China for knocking the US off the Super Power throne? It's almost as if you don't really have an argument beyond "I hate Obama."


Assuming that you're familiar with the history of Ukraine, you're going to need to be specific about what exactly Obama is denying, especially since he hasn't denied anything that you could be referring to.

Here you are saying that Obama is beyond incompetent and weak, therefore US citizens are clamoring for a stronger, more authoritarian president like Putin, which is in conflict with how you've described him as a power-hungry despot that's turning the US into a socialist hell hole in previous posts. I'm guessing that you don't see how you're contradicting yourself.

Romney would've also been correct if he said Canada. So unless you're saying that Obama should emulate the 80's foreign policy of the arm's race and proxy wars, what exactly is your point? This is the second time I've made these comments and all you're coming back with is "I hate O'Bummer."

In this thread: Asking TC about statements made by Romney and TC's ideas is considered "irrelevant BS." When called out on just wanting to talk about how much Obama sucks and trying to steer us back to the content in the OP, TC says I'm a liberal hack/troll AFTER TC ADMITS TO MAKING THIS THREAD ABOUT HOW MUCH OBAMA SUCKS. :rofl:

It's obvious that you don't give a shit about what's happening over there at this point and admitted it, so how the hell are you going to ramble on about how someone is "avoiding the issue" when someone is specifically talking about how you just want to talk about how Obama sucks?

And as for my use of troll memes, I almost ALWAYS add context and content rather than just shitting on a thread with a shit eating grin. Btw, do you know what "projection" means?
 
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"Avoiding the entire thread," you say?






In this thread: Asking TC about statements made by Romney and TC's ideas is considered "irrelevant BS." When called out on just wanting to talk about how much Obama sucks and trying to steer us back to the content in the OP, TC says I'm a liberal hack/troll AFTER TC ADMITS TO MAKING THIS THREAD ABOUT HOW MUCH OBAMA SUCKS. :rofl:

It's obvious that you don't give a shit about what's happening over there at this point and admitted it, so how the hell are you going to ramble on about how someone is "avoiding the issue" when someone is specifically talking about how you just want to talk about how Obama sucks?

And as for my use of troll memes, I almost ALWAYS add context and content rather than just shitting on a thread with a shit eating grin. Btw, do you know what "projection" means?
The only thing obvious from that post is you can't stop kissing Obama's ass and you hate the fact that he is the current president and has to get bashed for all his incompetent failures. Everything you posted was a waste of time because you still won't admit Obama was wrong and he is terrible at foreign policy with his "lead from behind" tactic.
 
The only thing obvious from that post is you can't stop kissing Obama's ass and you hate the fact that he is the current president and has to get bashed for all his incompetent failures. Everything you posted was a waste of time because you still won't admit Obama was wrong and he is terrible at foreign policy with his "lead from behind" tactic.
I condensed all my replies into my previous post. Please point out where I am "kissing Obama's ass." I see you chugging that hatorade, but I don't really see any concrete examples or see you going into any depth on the subject. Pretend(or not) that I'm a blank slate that knows nothing about Obama's foreign policy and explain HOW he's wrong and WHY he is terrible at foreign policy. Define your terminology.

I'm just a libtard, right? Go on and show me some critical thinking and understanding of history. I should be easy pickings for a smart guy like you.
 
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I provided links to FOUR threads. They were 18 posts, 224 posts, 25 posts, and 38 posts each. It's not a lot of fucking reading when you only need to skim 3 out of the 4 threads for your own bullshit. The longer thread can be searched through...wait for it...THE SEARCH FUNCTION.

But hey, I get it: you don't want to take responsibility for your posts because they are on the lamer side of lame-osity.
So you are not going to give me a straight answer?

 
So you are not going to give me a straight answer?
I did. You're just pussying out by whining about a thread being 22 pages long because your forum settings have you at 10 posts per page. For me, that thread is 9 pages long. Funny how that works eh? I love it when conservatives play with numbers...always fucking them up hoping that no one will take a deeper look. Either way, that still doesn't change the fact that you couldn't even be bothered to read 2 pages. That says a shitload more about you than me.

So are you going to take responsibility for those posts or what? You know exactly what you said and you worded it deliberately. Coded language doesn't work when everyone knows what it means.

Btw, I just gotta say that your obsession with me is getting a little creepy. By "little creepy," I mean that I think you're a bit fucked in the head.
 
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In some cases, one man's "context" is another man's "s***".

In one particular case, one man's "context" is s*** to everyone else.
 
I did. You're just pussying out by whining about a thread being 22 pages long because your forum settings have you at 10 posts per page. For me, that thread is 9 pages long. Funny how that works eh? I love it when conservatives play with numbers...always fucking them up hoping that no one will take a deeper look. Either way, that still doesn't change the fact that you couldn't even be bothered to read 2 pages. That says a shitload more about you than me.

So are you going to take responsibility for those posts or what? You know exactly what you said and you worded it deliberately. Coded language doesn't work when everyone knows what it means.

Btw, I just gotta say that your obsession with me is getting a little creepy. By "little creepy," I mean that I think you're a bit fucked in the head.
I am only asking you to tell me exactly why you think I am a racist. You keep making excuses and continue to attack me. If you got nothing then kindly move on.

 
I am only asking you to tell me exactly why you think I am a racist. You keep making excuses and continue to attack me. If you got nothing then kindly move on.
Holy fuck, kid! I gave you FOUR threads that demonstrate a pattern and you STILL can't ass yourself into reading ONE fucking thread? And THEN you accuse me of making excuses and attacking you when you can't help yourself from trying to troll me every time I make a post? Aren't you supposed to be dumpster diving into my posts for some shit too?

If you can't read a few pages that you'd read anyways, well, the onus is on you. It takes a special kind of affliction to do what you do and frankly, you're not the first, nor the best, nor the last, but I guarantee that the only one you're fooling here is yourself especially when you don't even have the balls to stand behind your statements. You should really post that craigslist ad like I suggested. You guys are clearly two peas in an attention-whoring pod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIvEQ1zagHk

inb4 Q_Q
 
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Holy fuck, kid! I gave you FOUR threads that demonstrate a pattern and you STILL can't ass yourself into reading ONE fucking thread? And THEN you accuse me of making excuses and attacking you when you can't help yourself from trying to troll me every time I make a post? Aren't you supposed to be dumpster diving into my posts for some shit too?

If you can't read a few pages that you'd read anyways, well, the onus is on you. It takes a special kind of affliction to do what you do and frankly, you're not the first, nor the best, nor the last, but I guarantee that the only one you're fooling here is yourself especially when you don't even have the balls to stand behind your statements. You should really post that craigslist ad like I suggested. You guys are clearly two peas in an attention-whoring pod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIvEQ1zagHk

inb4 Q_Q
How can I utilize my balls when I have no idea what words you are referring to? You keep insisting that I know of the racism I have been spewing, I do not. This is why I keep asking but as always can not deliver.

 
How can I utilize my balls when I have no idea what words you are referring to? You keep insisting that I know of the racism I have been spewing, I do not. This is why I keep asking but as always can not deliver.
Explain to me why I should go through the additional effort to pull a dozen posts when you can't even bother to read the first page of any of those threads with 10 posts on it? So you're telling me you're going to all of a sudden click through a dozen posts? If skimming 15 posts(you don't even have to read all of them!) is too fucking hard for you, telling me to point you to the exact words makes sense to you? All evidence has shown that posting to the fact that you won't even read direct links.

But hey, "What? 22 pages? Pfft...tl;dr." amirite? Yeah, if I were you, I wouldn't want to read my own shitty posts either.

Let's see what other bullshit excuse you can come up with next:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10876933
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10877630
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10878326
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10882529
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10883011
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317880-bonuses-wtf-irs/?p=10954636
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317880-bonuses-wtf-irs/?p=10954807
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317880-bonuses-wtf-irs/?p=10954991
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317506-this-country-is-so-fcked-up-its-not-even-funny/?p=10972985
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317506-this-country-is-so-fcked-up-its-not-even-funny/?p=11086423
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317506-this-country-is-so-fcked-up-its-not-even-funny/?p=11086462
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/319112-both-george-bushs-did-not-show-up-to-the-lincoln-memorial-mlk-50th-aniv-speech/?p=11025974
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/319112-both-george-bushs-did-not-show-up-to-the-lincoln-memorial-mlk-50th-aniv-speech/?p=

There you go. 13 wonderful posts filled with the garbage that is a partial post history. If you want explanations for why they're racist, you can read my replies to those posts.

Happy reading!

inb4 "tl;dr," "eye kant reed," "I don't hate black people," "I have black friends," and "go look for more of my posts."
 
Explain to me why I should go through the additional effort to pull a dozen posts when you can't even bother to read the first page of any of those threads with 10 posts on it? So you're telling me you're going to all of a sudden click through a dozen posts? If skimming 15 posts(you don't even have to read all of them!) is too fucking hard for you, telling me to point you to the exact words makes sense to you? All evidence has shown that posting to the fact that you won't even read direct links.

But hey, "What? 22 pages? Pfft...tl;dr." amirite? Yeah, if I were you, I wouldn't want to read my own shitty posts either.

Let's see what other bullshit excuse you can come up with next:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10876933
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10877630
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10878326
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10882529
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/316492-nc-commissioner-no-white-males-need-apply/?p=10883011
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317880-bonuses-wtf-irs/?p=10954636
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317880-bonuses-wtf-irs/?p=10954807
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317880-bonuses-wtf-irs/?p=10954991
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317506-this-country-is-so-fcked-up-its-not-even-funny/?p=10972985
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317506-this-country-is-so-fcked-up-its-not-even-funny/?p=11086423
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/317506-this-country-is-so-fcked-up-its-not-even-funny/?p=11086462
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/319112-both-george-bushs-did-not-show-up-to-the-lincoln-memorial-mlk-50th-aniv-speech/?p=11025974
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/319112-both-george-bushs-did-not-show-up-to-the-lincoln-memorial-mlk-50th-aniv-speech/?p=

There you go. 13 wonderful posts filled with the garbage that is a partial post history. If you want explanations for why they're racist, you can read my replies to those posts.

Happy reading!

inb4 "tl;dr," "eye kant reed," "I don't hate black people," "I have black friends," and "go look for more of my posts."
I actually read an entire thread when you first posted those linkes. I saw nothing that would indicate me being a racist.

I have not posted anything racist in the first 3 links above. As a matter of fact, in the 3rd link I ask you the same question but alas no clear answer.

The next 3 threads are just the same. Nothing.

The next two, clearly a jest.

The next one after that, maybe in your mind.

Everything after that is trash. The only one that could be considered racist is the one with food stamps but that more directed at you as an individual.

So got any other posts for me?

 
thread should be closed by now.
But I like seeing Silk humiliate Doughboy.

And Silk of course he is going to call you a racist, that is what the most desperate liberals do when they don't have facts on their side go for the race card.

The worst racist of them all are the liberals. The KKK was started by the Democrat party and the liberals couldn't wait to pick a black president in Obama not because they thought he was qualified, but because they knew they had a weapon against criticism. If you criticize Obama, you are a racist.

The funny thing about that, is that is the ultimate racism, don't pick a guy because he is smart or qualified, just pick him because he is black so we pretend to look tolerant.
 
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Doh, do you think criticizing a culture and govt welfare programs that produce 70% single mother households, a large dropout rate, high crime and incarceration rate, and high unemployment/ welfare use is the same as believing that a race is genetically inferior? I can honestly tell you that I believe a human brain is a human brain, no matter the race. Look at all the areas of the US that have all of the same problems that I mention above, but are white. Its a cultural problem, not genetic. You think I expect too much from people to make decisions that will help them raise up out of their situations(finish high school, save money instead of getting tats, cigarettes, and alcohol, and, most of all, having kids!), they can do it, I believe in them, so do you actually believe that they are genetically inferior and can't handle all that life entails? I kid with you because I feel you are knowledgeable and truly care, yet throwing around the racist accusations severely disrupts any discussion of possible solutions, causes an insult war, and destroys any possible chance of friendly compromise or conversation. Large segments of the black community have huge problems right now. So do segments of the white community and Hispanic community. You can argue the causes and refer to the huge civil rights tragedy that our nation had(yes, its basically over), but that doesn't make these problems go away. It also doesn't change human nature. Incentives to reproduce, be provided for, and not work are destructive, unless that's what you want. A populace totally dependent on the gov't for their livelihood. I've gone wayyyy off track from my original intent, so my wrap up question, when you say racist, are you implying a belief that a certain race is GENETICALLY inferior?

 
[...]yet throwing around the racist accusations severely disrupts any discussion of possible solutions, causes an insult war, and destroys any possible chance of friendly compromise or conversation.
This. There are a handful of folks who kept accusing me of trolling and derailing conversations. They've put me on ignore and stopped responding to me (which is pretty awesome, really). And now - we're in a topic about the Ukraine talking about who's racist - in spite of the fact that they haven't responded to me.

If you look through the thread posted when Myke was on his LoA and DD/RvB didn't really post much, you'll see several threads that did a pretty good job of staying on topic - with and without my involvement. Yet, now that the three of them are back full-force - threads are getting derailed into this kind of drivel all over again.

I wonder if they'll figure it out.
 
I actually read an entire thread when you first posted those linkes. I saw nothing that would indicate me being a racist.

I have not posted anything racist in the first 3 links above. As a matter of fact, in the 3rd link I ask you the same question but alas no clear answer.
The next 3 threads are just the same. Nothing.

The next two, clearly a jest.

The next one after that, maybe in your mind.

Everything after that is trash. The only one that could be considered racist is the one with food stamps but that more directed at you as an individual.

So got any other posts for me?
Hmmm....

If you want explanations for why they're racist, you can read my replies to those posts.

inb4 "tl;dr," "eye kant reed," "I don't hate black people," "I have black friends," and "go look for more of my posts."
You're so predictable.

Oh and ONE thing could be considered racist, but is an insult directed at me using thinly veiled racist stereotypes? So what you're saying is that you make racist insults. EL OH EL

Doh, do you think criticizing a culture and govt welfare programs that produce 70% single mother households, a large dropout rate, high crime and incarceration rate, and high unemployment/ welfare use is the same as believing that a race is genetically inferior? I can honestly tell you that I believe a human brain is a human brain, no matter the race. Look at all the areas of the US that have all of the same problems that I mention above, but are white. Its a cultural problem, not genetic. You think I expect too much from people to make decisions that will help them raise up out of their situations(finish high school, save money instead of getting tats, cigarettes, and alcohol, and, most of all, having kids!), they can do it, I believe in them, so do you actually believe that they are genetically inferior and can't handle all that life entails? I kid with you because I feel you are knowledgeable and truly care, yet throwing around the racist accusations severely disrupts any discussion of possible solutions, causes an insult war, and destroys any possible chance of friendly compromise or conversation. Large segments of the black community have huge problems right now. So do segments of the white community and Hispanic community. You can argue the causes and refer to the huge civil rights tragedy that our nation had(yes, its basically over), but that doesn't make these problems go away. It also doesn't change human nature. Incentives to reproduce, be provided for, and not work are destructive, unless that's what you want. A populace totally dependent on the gov't for their livelihood. I've gone wayyyy off track from my original intent, so my wrap up question, when you say racist, are you implying a belief that a certain race is GENETICALLY inferior?
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/283237-black-teen-shot-killed-by-neighborhood-watch/page-42#entry9455444
 
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  • rac·ist /ˈreɪ
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    noun
    1.
    a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.


    adjective
    2.
    of or like racists or racism: racist policies; racist attitudes.



World English Dictionary
racism or racialism  (ˈreɪsɪzəm, ˈreɪʃəˌlɪzəm)   — n 1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others 2. abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist

"Racism is a very complicated phenomenon and to boil it down to simply hating someone because of their race and while thinking one's own race as superior is inaccurate and simply dumb. "   -Doh

Uhhhh, its simply dumb and inaccurate to apply the definition to the word as it is listed?

"When you say racist, you mean someone that just hates because of race. When I say racist, I mean supportive of a power structure that is oppressive based on race either through action or inaction because even inaction supports the current levels of oppression." -Doh

Ohhh, so you get to change the definition of words when you use them? Gotcha, it does make understanding you a bit difficult though, is there a new dictionary available that has your new, progressive definitions? :roll:

Do you really believe that I dislike people who live in generational welfare abuse because they are black? It couldn't be that I feel they are mooching off tax payer money and breeding kids simply as bigger paydays? Does the fact that I dislike white moochers just as much sway you any? I have posted numerous times that I dislike corporate welfare as well. assuming that all conservatives who demand accountability are racists is "simply dumb." C'mon, Doh, you are much smarter than that.

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Motherfuck, not this bullshit again...

Race is a social construct and a dictionary doesn't cover the entire scope of any particular subject nor are the written by experts on them. The Irish were once considered black and now they're white. Explain that.

Focusing on "culture" is just another way to talk about the inferiority of black people without "sounding" racist. "I don't hate black people, just their culture." Sound familiar?
 
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Motherfuck, not this bullshit again...

Race is a social construct and a dictionary doesn't cover the entire scope of any particular subject nor are the written by experts on them. The Irish were once considered black and now they're white. Explain that.

Focusing on "culture" is just another way to talk about the inferiority of black people without "sounding" racist. "I don't hate black people, just their culture." Sound familiar?
Dude, using a word as it is defined in the fucking dictionary is not bullshit. I dislike any culture that has kids while on welfare. Skin color is not the issue. I should not be afraid of "sounding" racists because I base my thoughts on people's choices, not their race. Do you think I look at all black people as inferior to me? I dislike white trailer trash culture as well if it involves having kids while on welfare. I want accountability required for AALLLLLLL people.

Please define the term racist for me.

As far as the Irish, how does that have any relation to you accusing me of making racist comments?

 
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Dude, using a word as it is defined in the fucking dictionary is not bullshit. I dislike any culture that has kids while on welfare. Skin color is not the issue. I should not be afraid of "sounding" racists because I base my thoughts on people's choices, not their race. Do you think I look at all black people as inferior to me? I dislike white trailer trash culture as well if it involves having kids while on welfare. I want accountability required for AALLLLLLL people.

Please define the term racist for me.

As far as the Irish, how does that have any relation to you accusing me of making racist comments?
Here's a famous quote:

Lee Atwater said:
You start out in 1954 by saying, "N*gger, n*gger, n*gger." By 1968 you can't say "n*gger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N*gger, n*gger.
People are not islands and culture isn't developed in a fucking vacuum. Racism is a form of oppression. Oppression is a form of power. As a racial group, black people have little to none of it in the US. The whole point of the Irish being black question is that the ways we define race isn't static and neither is the way we express racism in our society. Hence Lee Atwater's quote and the futile use of a couple definitions from a dictionary. The days of the KKK riding on horseback in white robes terrorizing black people are over, but places like stormfront and organizations like the KKK still exist. If you open your eyes and are critical of what you see, you'll notice the not-so-subtle rhetoric everywhere. Dog-whistles exist whether you admit it or not.


I had problem finding those responses. Can you post them here?
Have you looked up your ass? Cause I'm pretty sure you can find it there. It's not like you admitted it in the post I quoted, right?

The only one that could be considered racist is the one with food stamps but that more directed at you as an individual.
Oh look! You did! Your underoos to tight or something? Thanks for admitting to being a racist asshole.
 
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Sigh, I guess we will just never see each other's points of view. I oppress no one. The system oppresses everyone when it applies rules that are tyrannical and enforces policies that treat people differently. I feel that wealth is that deciding factor now, not race. I was raised to treat people with respect, and to judge by actions, not looks. I see people raising their kids poorly and some downright neglecting them. This is not a black only observation. I feel our current welfare system leads to more and more use versus actually promoting people to better themselves. I support a voucher system for nutritious food, like Bob suggested, and some form of required work to receive entitlements. Yes, we have argued this before. Please tell me in what ways you would change welfare and SNAP so that it actually solved this problem versus increasing it. All races would benefit hopefully. How do you feel about the swelling disability program also?

As far as the Atwater quote, do you think I want to target a particular racial group for punishment, or do I want people of all races to be accountable for their actions and not rely on a gov't check as a way of perpetual life? Disliking and not approving of people's actions is not racism.

 
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Sigh, I guess we will just never see each other's points of view. I oppress no one. The system oppresses everyone when it applies rules that are tyrannical and enforces policies that treat people differently. I feel that wealth is that deciding factor now, not race. I was raised to treat people with respect, and to judge by actions, not looks. I see people raising their kids poorly and some downright neglecting them. This is not a black only observation. I feel our current welfare system leads to more and more use versus actually promoting people to better themselves. I support a voucher system for nutritious food, like Bob suggested, and some form of required work to receive entitlements. Yes, we have argued this before. Please tell me in what ways you would change welfare and SNAP so that it actually solved this problem versus increasing it. All races would benefit hopefully. How do you feel about the swelling disability program also?
Black people can indeed be racists, if you apply the definition of the word as it is in a DICTIONARY....

Hmmm.. sorry for the double post. Touch screen shenanigans....

 
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Sigh, I guess we will just never see each other's points of view. I oppress no one. The system oppresses everyone when it applies rules that are tyrannical and enforces policies that treat people differently. I feel that wealth is that deciding factor now, not race. I was raised to treat people with respect, and to judge by actions, not looks. I see people raising their kids poorly and some downright neglecting them. This is not a black only observation. I feel our current welfare system leads to more and more use versus actually promoting people to better themselves. I support a voucher system for nutritious food, like Bob suggested, and some form of required work to receive entitlements. Yes, we have argued this before. Please tell me in what ways you would change welfare and SNAP so that it actually solved this problem versus increasing it. All races would benefit hopefully. How do you feel about the swelling disability program also?
If something inadvertently affects black people more negatively than white people. Is it racist? The effects are still there regardless of intent.

Are there enough jobs for everyone looking? Do those jobs pay a living wage based on the location? We don't even have to talk about those on welfare when those that are able bodied and able minded can't even make a living. Excuse my snark(or not), but like I said before: call me when there isn't a surplus of labor. Unless there is a surplus of jobs, social services will need to be expanded because we can't have people starving on the streets. Some people are ok with that. One person having all the personal responsibility in the world can't magically conjure up a job for everyone that's willing to have one. Until that's solved, most talk about the "moochers" is irrelevant. Starvation is only a great motivator to ensure that crime rates will go up.


Black people can indeed be racists, if you apply the definition of the word as it is in a DICTIONARY....


Hmmm.. sorry for the double post. Touch screen shenanigans....
Social scientists tend to differ and if you're using the dictionary as an end-all;be-all, please explain why the hell we would even need encyclopedias.
 
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If something inadvertently affects black people more negatively than white people. Is it racist? The effects are still there regardless of intent.

Are there enough jobs for everyone looking? Do those jobs pay a living wage based on the location? We don't even have to talk about those on welfare when those that are able bodied and able minded can't even make a living. Excuse my snark(or not), but like I said before: call me when there isn't a surplus of labor. Unless there is a surplus of jobs, social services will need to be expanded because we can't have people starving on the streets. Some people are ok with that. One person having all the personal responsibility in the world can't magically conjure up a job for everyone that's willing to have one. Until that's solved, most talk about the "moochers" is irrelevant. Starvation is only a great motivator to ensure that crime rates will go up.


Social scientists tend to differ and if you're using the dictionary as an end-all;be-all, please explain why the hell we would even need encyclopedias.
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a book or set of books containing articles on various topics, usually in alphabetical arrangement, covering all branches of knowledge or, less commonly, all aspects of one subject.

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( initial capital letter ) the French work edited by Diderot and D'Alembert, published in the 18th century, distinguished by its representation of the views of the Enlightenment.

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a book, optical disc, mobile device, or online lexical resource (such as Dictionary.com ) containing a selection of the words of a language, giving information about their meanings, pronunciations, etymologies, inflected forms, derived forms, etc., expressed in either the same or another language; lexicon; glossary. Print dictionaries of various sizes, ranging from small pocket dictionaries to multivolume books, usually sort entries alphabetically, as do typical CD or DVD dictionary applications, allowing one to browse through the terms in sequence. All electronic dictionaries, whether online or installed on a device, can provide immediate, direct access to a search term, its meanings, and ancillary information: an unabridged dictionary of English; a Japanese-English dictionary.

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a book giving information on particular subjects or on a particular class of words, names, or facts, usually arranged alphabetically: a biographical dictionary; a dictionary of mathematics.

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a list of codes, terms, keys, etc., and their meanings, used by a computer program or system.

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a list of words used by a word-processing program as the standard against which to check the spelling of text entered.


Are you saying that racism does not involve a belief that a race is superior or inferior based solely on their racial genetic makeup? You seem unable to distinguish the reason that I dislike some welfare recipients(who aren't all black) versus the KKK who hate all blacks(who aren't all welfare recipients).

As far as the lack of jobs, so incentivizing the breeding of kids to single mothers is gonna help the labor surplus???? Nobody wants to see people starve, how about that voucher idea? It guarantees nutritious choices, cuts down on black market EBT card abuse, and hopefully leads to healthier kids. And minimum wage does provide a living wage for a single adult. Three kids, no, but who is the idiot having kids while on minimum wage....A perfect role model whose kids will emulate straight into the welfare line.

Did I miss the solutions that you have?








 
Are you saying that racism does not involve a belief that a race is superior or inferior based solely on their racial genetic makeup? You seem unable to distinguish the reason that I dislike some welfare recipients(who aren't all black) versus the KKK who hate all blacks(who aren't all welfare recipients).

As far as the lack of jobs, so incentivizing the breeding of kids to single mothers is gonna help the labor surplus???? Nobody wants to see people starve, how about that voucher idea? It guarantees nutritious choices, cuts down on black market EBT card abuse, and hopefully leads to healthier kids. And minimum wage does provide a living wage for a single adult. Three kids, no, but who is the idiot having kids while on minimum wage....A perfect role model whose kids will emulate straight into the welfare line.

Did I miss the solutions that you have?
You JUST used the dictionary as the definitive source of knowledge in reference to a term. Again, I ask: why would we need an encyclopedia if the dictionary tells us all we need about a subject? It's obvious that a dictionary is enough for you since you like looking things up in it.

And again, can you explain why the Irish used to be considered black and/or how they became considered white? Until you can figure that out, how can you claim that race is based on genetics or that racism is solely based on genetics when what defines black and white isn't static? Race is a social construction.

Welfare fraud is a whipping 2%. It doesn't bother me. Oh and I'd love to see you live on $8 an hour in Boston.
 
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You JUST used the dictionary as the definitive source of knowledge in reference to a term. Again, I ask: why would we need an encyclopedia if the dictionary tells us all we need about a subject? It's obvious that a dictionary is enough for you since you like looking things up in it.

And again, can you explain why the Irish used to be considered black and/or how they became considered white? Until you can figure that out, how can you claim that race is based on genetics or that racism is solely based on genetics when what defines black and white isn't static? Race is a social construction.

Welfare fraud is a whipping 2%. It doesn't bother me. Oh and I'd love to see you live on $8 an hour in Boston.
The dictionary stuff was a joke. The definition of racism is what it is. I am not going to change it because you tell me to.

I never considered Irish people as anything but Irish. Won't it be much better when we cease to separate ourselves by race? I'm all for removing race from all gov't forms. Race is all based on melanin as far as society is concerned. Melanin is based on genetics. I don't even know why this is relevant when my positions aren't based on race at all.

So children suffering because their parents are moochers doesn't bother you? Taking people's money and giving it to people who are able bodied but refuse to work doesn't bother you? Ok......The fraud is not my biggest concern, its the generations of kids being poorly raised to rely on the gov't for their existence.

I'd never live in Boston. Too cold to
surf. O:)
 
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Don't these conspiracy theories like sweeping national corporate racism sound a little too good to be true? Don't they have to originate somewhere. We all love to root for the oppressed. It starts with the tree's are being oppressed; a dunce wrongly ponders an unsightly exhaust pipe and global warming's suddenly a thing - mother earth is under attack.

Focusing on "culture" is just another way to talk about the inferiority of black people without "sounding" racist. "I don't hate black people, just their culture." Sound familiar?
Oh so it's mental? Any doctor would laugh at you. So it's racism? That would be a lot of racism my friend. It would be palpable.

Here's the deal: I got a decent vocabulary, but would I ever break it out to my predominantly black cultured friends? fuck no because Rick Ross doesn't say words like disparity. Lil Wayne is actually intelligent but if he rapped about Shakespeare the homeboy's would straight up think he lost his damn mind. I'm 20 year's old in 2014 and like girls around me, so imma keep those words for my mom-and-son geopolitical debates.

 
Wasn't really replying to anything just saw big text and lol didn't read so nice try dumbass
"Responding" isn't quite the exact same thing as "Replying". Not sure what the dictionary definitions are though. :D
 
Wasn't really replying to anything just saw big text and lol didn't read so nice try dumbass
Yet you posted that you did not care. Why?

Have you looked up your ass? Cause I'm pretty sure you can find it there. It's not like you admitted it in the post I quoted, right?


Oh look! You did! Your underoos to tight or something? Thanks for admitting to being a racist asshole.
Well thats the problem. I still cannot understand why I am considered racist. You linked to a bunch of posts but none of them are racist. The one quoted above was directed to you as an individual, something I clearly said. Now will you actually post a good response or continue calling me names?

 
racism, also called racialism , any action, practice, or belief that reflects the racial worldview—the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called "races," that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral features, and that some races are innately superior to others.

Courtesy encyclopedia britannica. Sure sounds like genetics to me, Doh. This whole argument is moot anyway, because I never said that any race was inferior or that I hated a race. I stated that I did not like generational welfare. I posted some videos giving examples of people that I felt were guilty of exploiting the system. I think the videos featured more blacks than whites, so you immediately threw the racist slur my way. So who made it a racial thing in the first place? There are plenty of fiscal conservatives who dislike our current welfare program and are not racists. Do you agree?
 
He will disagree. Basically, anyone who is white is racist because they've benefited in some way or another by the power structure that keeps white people in power.

Anyone who isn't white but displays any hint of racism (via the dictionary definition) towards any other minority race isn't actually racist, but is simply supporting white racism by helping to keep the white power status-quo.
 
I'm racist because I don't use data? What does using a personal agenda based on non dictionary definitions make someone? What data do you want?

 
Yet you posted that you did not care. Why?

Well thats the problem. I still cannot understand why I am considered racist. You linked to a bunch of posts but none of them are racist. The one quoted above was directed to you as an individual, something I clearly said. Now will you actually post a good response or continue calling me names?
According to your own logic, I didn't call you any names.

Look, you admitted to making a comment that one could consider racist, but somehow isn't because it was meant to be a personal insult? If it could be considered racist according to your own goddamn opinion, what difference does it make if it was directed at me as an individual? YOU were the one to point our YOUR OWN RACISM. By admitting that it could be considered racist, that means you're more than a little aware of how you use racist dog whistles.

Maybe YOU should explain how YOUR OWN comment THAT YOU POINTED OUT could be considered racist. Cause...you know...YOU'RE the one that said it could.


racism, also called racialism , any action, practice, or belief that reflects the racial worldview—the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called "races," that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral features, and that some races are innately superior to others.

Courtesy encyclopedia britannica. Sure sounds like genetics to me, Doh. This whole argument is moot anyway, because I never said that any race was inferior or that I hated a race. I stated that I did not like generational welfare. I posted some videos giving examples of people that I felt were guilty of exploiting the system. I think the videos featured more blacks than whites, so you immediately threw the racist slur my way. So who made it a racial thing in the first place? There are plenty of fiscal conservatives who dislike our current welfare program and are not racists. Do you agree?
We're a bit more removed from caucasoids, mongoloids, and negroids when it comes to the definition of race. Again, race is a social construction; not a product of genetics. Unless you have another explanation for the Irish being categorized as black or all those supreme court cases where people sued the government to be recognized as white, you really don't have a very deep understanding of what you're talking about. Lee Atwater isn't some jerk off the street; he's the architect of the rhetoric you're using.

Like I asked before: if a policy hurts more black people than white people, is it racist regardless of the intent?
 
According to your own logic, I didn't call you any names.

Look, you admitted to making a comment that one could consider racist, but somehow isn't because it was meant to be a personal insult? If it could be considered racist according to your own goddamn opinion, what difference does it make if it was directed at me as an individual? YOU were the one to point our YOUR OWN RACISM. By admitting that it could be considered racist, that means you're more than a little aware of how you use racist dog whistles.

Maybe YOU should explain how YOUR OWN comment THAT YOU POINTED OUT could be considered racist. Cause...you know...YOU'RE the one that said it could.
When I first made it was directed to you and was not considered racist. Only now that you point it out, can I say that maybe if you look from your point of view. From mine, it is still personal and directed towards an individual.

Now that I explained my point, will you defend your claim?

 
I remember I said ego is racist because he joked and laughed about a black kid that was shot. Then he lied about it.
 
If a policy hurts more "white people" than "black people", is it racist regardless of intent?
Yep, DohDough is a typical guilty white liberal probably who never looks at both sides. He thinks it is still the 1940s and he also apparently doesn't realize the Democrats started the KKK.

"PLAY THE RACE CARD GUYS, I AM LOSING THIS ARGUMENT!!!"
 
According to your own logic, I didn't call you any names.

Look, you admitted to making a comment that one could consider racist, but somehow isn't because it was meant to be a personal insult? If it could be considered racist according to your own goddamn opinion, what difference does it make if it was directed at me as an individual? YOU were the one to point our YOUR OWN RACISM. By admitting that it could be considered racist, that means you're more than a little aware of how you use racist dog whistles.

Maybe YOU should explain how YOUR OWN comment THAT YOU POINTED OUT could be considered racist. Cause...you know...YOU'RE the one that said it could.



We're a bit more removed from caucasoids, mongoloids, and negroids when it comes to the definition of race. Again, race is a social construction; not a product of genetics. Unless you have another explanation for the Irish being categorized as black or all those supreme court cases where people sued the government to be recognized as white, you really don't have a very deep understanding of what you're talking about. Lee Atwater isn't some jerk off the street; he's the architect of the rhetoric you're using.

Like I asked before: if a policy hurts more black people than white people, is it racist regardless of the intent?
Wait, so the Encyclopedia Britannica is wrong now also? Awesome!!! I am going to adopt your argument style from now on. Unflappable even in the face of written fact..... :wall:

As far as your policy question, racism is indeed DEFINED by intent. Does the person believe that a race is inferior or superior due to their genetic make up? Refer to the entries above if you still fail to grasp this basic concept. Any policy that does not apply to ALL people is wrong. On the other hand, no group should be given special permissions for atrocities committed against their ancestors. We are all part of society and should be held to the same rules and laws.

 
I remember I said ego is racist because he joked and laughed about a black kid that was shot. Then he lied about it.
Hhahahahahahahahahaa...yeah, because I was totally laughing at that and not attempting (quite successfully it appears :D/ ) to get your goat. I feel bad about anyone dying, but I also will defend a man's right to defend himself when he is on the ground being beaten (as per eye witness account.) Reasonable doubt, etc, etc....

 
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