The Yes We CAG Movement - Now to win the Presidency!

[quote name='dmaul1114']It's not defining yourself.

It's helping promote the candidate you support. I don't think it cheapens a person at all. I think it shows they actually at least give a shit about politics, something that sadly the vast majority of people do not.[/quote]
Well, I certainly define myself as a 19th-century Biologist.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']biden better watch out. obama has his eye on bidens wife.

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Awesome pic. :lol:
 
Just a heads up: Word is Obama is scheduled to drop in on the season premiere of SNL tonight. Also, Tina Fey is supposedly "in talks" to informally return to the show solely to play Sarah Palin through the remainder of the political season. First time in a while I've been excited for SNL!
 
[quote name='Tybee']Just a heads up: Word is Obama is scheduled to drop in on the season premiere of SNL tonight. Also, Tina Fey is supposedly "in talks" to informally return to the show solely to play Sarah Palin through the remainder of the political season. First time in a while I've been excited for SNL![/quote]

They still have Saturday Night Live?
 
ok so heres the dilemma... my mom has been a life long democrat but now shes voting for mccain because she thinks barack doesnt have enough experience...

what can i say to convince her that shes an idiot for thinking that, and that it doesnt matter that he has no presidential experience because mccain doesnt either?
 
[quote name='trytej']ok so heres the dilemma... my mom has been a life long democrat but now shes voting for mccain because she thinks barack doesnt have enough experience...

what can i say to convince her that shes an idiot for thinking that, and that it doesnt matter that he has no presidential experience because mccain doesnt either?[/quote]

What is her position in terms of finances and health?
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Also, I don't give a damn what the world thinks. They want to elect OUR President, then they should move to and become citizens of OUR country.[/quote]

I find it amusing that the U.S. is actively involved in regime change in countries all over the world, and yet Americans get their red, white, and blue panties in a bunch when the rest of the world has the audacity to express an opinion on which U.S. presidential candidate they happen to favor, as if it has any bearing on the election whatsoever. Wah. Threatened much?
 
[quote name='trytej']ok so heres the dilemma... my mom has been a life long democrat but now shes voting for mccain because she thinks barack doesnt have enough experience...

what can i say to convince her that shes an idiot for thinking that, and that it doesnt matter that he has no presidential experience because mccain doesnt either?[/QUOTE]

Just tell her experience is just GOP code for McCain is old as fuck.

But seriously considering the differences in age Obama certainly has a ton of experience (executive experience being a quickly moving goalpost), He has a background in constitutional law and was in the state legislature before becoming a senator. If she cares to listen you can explain how the Obama campaign is in itself proof of how capable he is.
 
I would argue that Obama wouldn't push into a war with Iran or Russia, but Russia could definitely pull the US into one.

Regarding fuel costs, McCain won't do anything. His best idea was the gas tax holiday which would severely stop maintenance of roads and bridges. Obama might push for green energy, but hasn't impressed me with any proposals or comments.

Regarding healthcare, Obama will go for socialized medicine. It is a bad idea until you consider McCain's idea of pushing the cost of healthcare as taxable income.

Regarding current military escapades, they're going to shift resources to Afghanistan. So, more wasted resources over a strip of land nobody in America cares about.
 
Reviving an old thread.

Obama came to my town today!

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/ne...-voting-theme-45000-fort-collins/?partner=RSS

We stood in a line that was about a mile or two long from 11:30a to 3:20p to get into the CSU oval. We were about fifty metres away from him, but he was still somewhat easy to see. I don't think he had anyone to persuade in the crowd (uproarious hollers and applause after his main points, especially healthcare), but it was still an energizing speech. I went with my mom, sister and close friend, all of whom are pretty concretely liberal individuals.. my mom especially. She's very vocal, and has been a part of the protest scene for a long time- for instance the MX Missles in the 1980s and when Rocky Flats opened up. Anyway against the 45,000+ obama supporters there was a little group of about eight McCain people hollering at us, and my mother got so pissed off at their accusations of Obama being a communist, she runs back and hollers, 'BETTER SOCIALISM THAN REPUBLICAN TOTALITARIANISM". She was applauded by many, and for the first time in a while, I was proud. A newspaper reported got a quote from her. :lol:

Yeah, I know some of you will bitch about the socialism vs totalitarianism statement, but I don't think she meant socialism isn't totalitarian to a degree.

In either case, there couldn't be a better setting for the rally: the oak trees are all going from green, to yellow, to a radiant orange, and it was simply gorgeous, not to mention a pretty allegory to Obama's thirst for change.

Obama in Denver
: Another beautiful picture. Colorado's scenery is one of the two things that keep me from getting the hell out of the state (and country). We are unmatched. >:3
 
[quote name='Hex']Reviving an old thread.

Obama came to my town today!

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/ne...-voting-theme-45000-fort-collins/?partner=RSS

We stood in a line that was about a mile or two long from 11:30a to 3:20p to get into the CSU oval. We were about fifty metres away from him, but he was still somewhat easy to see. I don't think he had anyone to persuade in the crowd (uproarious hollers and applause after his main points, especially healthcare), but it was still an energizing speech. I went with my mom, sister and close friend, all of whom are pretty concretely liberal individuals.. my mom especially. She's very vocal, and has been a part of the protest scene for a long time- for instance the MX Missles in the 1980s and when Rocky Flats opened up. Anyway against the 45,000+ obama supporters there was a little group of about eight McCain people hollering at us, and my mother got so pissed off at their accusations of Obama being a communist, she runs back and hollers, 'BETTER SOCIALISM THAN REPUBLICAN TOTALITARIANISM". She was applauded by many, and for the first time in a while, I was proud. A newspaper reported got a quote from her. :lol:

Yeah, I know some of you will bitch about the socialism vs totalitarianism statement, but I don't think she meant socialism isn't totalitarian to a degree.

In either case, there couldn't be a better setting for the rally: the oak trees are all going from green, to yellow, to a radiant orange, and it was simply gorgeous, not to mention a pretty allegory to Obama's thirst for change.

Obama in Denver
: Another beautiful picture. Colorado's scenery is one of the two things that keep me from getting the hell out of the state (and country). We are unmatched. >:3[/quote]

WOWWOWOW so lucky!!! great pic btw..!!
 
Hell yeah we do. Granted today they're really starting to fall, but it's still so pretty.

My friends make a habit to jump in piles of leaves. I haven't done that in years. :(
 
Just turned on Fox news for a few mins to see what politic stuff was going on since MSNBC had some weird dateline crap, and the Title of the Show right now is literally Barrack "Karl Marx" Obama
 
[quote name='Koggit']Seattle trees pwn the fuck out of Colorado trees[/quote]

I went to seattle once.

fucking disappointing. Everyone's like OMG ITS SO RAINY AND COLD. fuck no, it was like Colorado there. I was all excited for rain but you let me down!
 
Its finally getting close to being over. If you need any evidence put on fox news, they are on high alert. They must be getting really nervous. They went from Iraq needs us we can't leave early, a old audio tape of obama talking about redistribution of wealth, Obama campaign workers committing voter fraud in Ohio and, How the news anchor was justified for asking those stupid questions to Biden. I had to turn it off.
 
[quote name='Hex']Reviving an old thread.

Obama came to my town today!

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/ne...-voting-theme-45000-fort-collins/?partner=RSS

We stood in a line that was about a mile or two long from 11:30a to 3:20p to get into the CSU oval. We were about fifty metres away from him, but he was still somewhat easy to see. I don't think he had anyone to persuade in the crowd (uproarious hollers and applause after his main points, especially healthcare), but it was still an energizing speech. I went with my mom, sister and close friend, all of whom are pretty concretely liberal individuals.. my mom especially. She's very vocal, and has been a part of the protest scene for a long time- for instance the MX Missles in the 1980s and when Rocky Flats opened up. Anyway against the 45,000+ obama supporters there was a little group of about eight McCain people hollering at us, and my mother got so pissed off at their accusations of Obama being a communist, she runs back and hollers, 'BETTER SOCIALISM THAN REPUBLICAN TOTALITARIANISM". She was applauded by many, and for the first time in a while, I was proud. A newspaper reported got a quote from her. :lol:

Yeah, I know some of you will bitch about the socialism vs totalitarianism statement, but I don't think she meant socialism isn't totalitarian to a degree.

In either case, there couldn't be a better setting for the rally: the oak trees are all going from green, to yellow, to a radiant orange, and it was simply gorgeous, not to mention a pretty allegory to Obama's thirst for change.

Obama in Denver
: Another beautiful picture. Colorado's scenery is one of the two things that keep me from getting the hell out of the state (and country). We are unmatched. >:3[/quote]

Cool, you from Colorado? Me too!

Man, I totally wanted to go (especially since I live near the Light Rail), but I had work that day and didn't know enough in advance to change my schedule ):

Good job on your mom's part haha.

I'm thinking about voting early since I have classes all day on the 4th, but this is also my first election, and I kinda wanted to get the experience of waitin' in line and talking with voters and such.
 
[quote name='Dori-dori']I'm thinking about voting early since I have classes all day on the 4th, but this is also my first election, and I kinda wanted to get the experience of waitin' in line and talking with voters and such.[/quote]

If you're not going to vote early and this is your first election you should check the ACLU's Voting Rights page for your state.

I'm sure none of us would want to hear that you got bumped out of line for not having your credentials and didn't have time to get back to vote.
 
[quote name='bmachine']If you're not going to vote early and this is your first election you should check the ACLU's Voting Rights page for your state.

I'm sure none of us would want to hear that you got bumped out of line for not having your credentials and didn't have time to get back to vote.[/quote]

D: Wait what? I'll give them a call, but what do you mean by "credentials"? I registered to vote (and got a postcard with the confirmation), have a CO license and am an American citizen...there's more?
 
There has been reports of voters showing up at the polls for early voting and getting turned away because they didn't have two forms of ID, or because their address has changed, or because they got married, or even because there's a spelling error somewhere and their ID and the voter registry don't match.

My point is this: some people out there are going to do anything they can to insure that our votes don't count. Make sure you're BULLETPROOF when you arrive at your polling place.
 
[quote name='bmachine']There has been reports of voters showing up at the polls for early voting and getting turned away because they didn't have two forms of ID, or because their address has changed, or because they got married, or even because there's a spelling error somewhere and their ID and the voter registry don't match.

My point is this: some people out there are going to do anything they can to insure that our votes don't count. Make sure you're BULLETPROOF when you arrive at your polling place.[/quote]

Here in NC, they just gave me a change of address form to fill out, and once I was done I was let on in to vote.

That does sound a little fishy.
 
[quote name='bmachine']Make sure you're BULLETPROOF when you arrive at your polling place.[/QUOTE]

Yep.

Glad I got mine out of the way. Now to bite my nails until 2AM next Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. I'll be watching FOX News to see them announce Obama as President-Elect. That's gonna be awesome.
 
[quote name='Dori-dori']D: Wait what? I'll give them a call, but what do you mean by "credentials"? I registered to vote (and got a postcard with the confirmation), have a CO license and am an American citizen...there's more?[/quote]

You should be okay, dude. I got an Express Voter form in the mail from the county clerk which let me go straight to getting a signature after they compared my ID (which had my incorrect address on it, they didn't care) then to getting my PAPER ballot.

If you go early, you probably guarantee yourself a vote, because even if something comes up you have a little while to fix it.
 
[quote name='bmachine']There has been reports of voters showing up at the polls for early voting and getting turned away because they didn't have two forms of ID, or because their address has changed, or because they got married, or even because there's a spelling error somewhere and their ID and the voter registry don't match.

My point is this: some people out there are going to do anything they can to insure that our votes don't count. Make sure you're BULLETPROOF when you arrive at your polling place.[/quote]

Geez, that's REALLY lame. Thanks for the warning though; hopefully I can get to the polls near the end of the week.

Crap, now I'm worried that the space in my first name is deny me the right the vote. fuck, I better make sure it won't be a problem.

Sheesh, I haven't even voted yet and I'm bitin' my nails. Are all elections like this? :whistle2:k
 
[quote name='Hex']If you go early, you probably guarantee yourself a vote, because even if something comes up you have a little while to fix it.[/quote]

My point exactly.

Early voting is a bit anti-climactic but it does give you the luxury of more time if an attempt (legitimate or otherwise) is made to challenge or disenfranchise your vote.

[quote name='Dori-dori']Sheesh, I haven't even voted yet and I'm bitin' my nails. Are all elections like this? :whistle2:k[/quote]

I've voted in and worked the polls for the last 6 election cycles (presidential and local/congressional) and this is the creepiest it's ever been. And I don't even live in a swing state!

As long as you're well-informed and know your rights (again, check out that ACLU site I linked above) you should be just fine.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Please elaborate. Why are things "creepy"?[/quote]

This motherfucker defines creepy:

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Look at his fucking fembot wife, holy hell.

TERMINATE TERMINATE
 
[quote name='Hex']This motherfucker defines creepy:

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Look at his fucking fembot wife, holy hell.

TERMINATE TERMINATE[/quote]
LOL if her eyes turn red I'm OUT!
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Please elaborate. Why are things "creepy"?[/quote]

We have fairly limited early voting options in NY so I haven't seen anything first hand, but the pollworker training this year has included a lot of direction for managing vote challengers, obstructive pollwatchers, managing in-line harassment, and contacting election judges. These things were secondary issues in the past and were really only addressed in the handbook; this year they've become topline concerns and are vocalized in all of the training sessions.

Greg Palast has done a lot of amazing reporting on voter disenfranchisement this year: check out his "Block the Vote" article on the Rolling Stone site for a fascinating read. Here are some highlights:

[SIZE=+1]1. Obstructing Voter-Registration Drives[/SIZE] Since 2004, the Bush administration and more than a dozen states have taken steps to impede voter registration. Among the worst offenders is Florida, where the Republican-dominated legislature created hefty fines — up to $5,000 per violation — for groups that fail to meet deadlines for turning in voter-application forms. Facing potentially huge penalties for trivial administrative errors, the League of Women Voters abandoned its voter-registration drives in Florida. A court order eventually forced the legislature to reduce the maximum penalty to $1,000. But even so, said former League president Dianne Wheatley-Giliotti, the reduced fines "create an unfair tax on democracy." The state has also failed to uphold a federal law requiring that low-income voters be offered an opportunity to register when they apply for food stamps or other public assistance. As a result, the annual number of such registrations has plummeted from more than 120,000 in the Clinton years to barely 10,000 today.

[SIZE=+1]2. Demanding "Perfect Matches"[/SIZE] Under the Help America Vote Act, some states now reject first-time registrants whose data does not correspond to information in other government databases. Spurred by HAVA, almost every state must now attempt to make some kind of match — and four states, including the swing states of Iowa and Florida, require what is known as a "perfect match." Under this rigid framework, new registrants can lose the right to vote if the information on their voter-registration forms — Social Security number, street address and precisely spelled name, right down to a hyphen — fails to exactly match data listed in other government records.

There are many legitimate reasons, of course, why a voter's information might vary. Indeed, a recent study by the Brennan Center for Justice found that as many as 20 percent of discrepancies between voter records and driver's licenses in New York City are simply typing mistakes made by government clerks when they transcribe data. But under the new rules, those mistakes are costing citizens the right to vote. In California, a Republican secretary of state blocked 43 percent of all new voters in Los Angeles from registering in early 2006 — many because of the state's failure to produce a tight match. In Florida, GOP officials created "match" rules that rejected more than 15,000 new registrants in 2006 and 2007 — nearly three-fourths of them Hispanic and black voters. Given the big registration drives this year, the number could be five times higher by November.
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[SIZE=+1]3. Purging Legitimate Voters From the Rolls[/SIZE] The Help America Vote Act doesn't just disenfranchise new registrants; it also targets veteran voters. In the past, bipartisan county election boards maintained voter records. But HAVA requires that records be centralized, computerized and maintained by secretaries of state — partisan officials — who are empowered to purge the rolls of any voter they deem ineligible. Ironically, the new rules imitate the centralized system in Florida — the same corrupt operation that inspired passage of HAVA in the first place. Prior to the 2000 election, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris and her predecessor, both Republicans, tried to purge 57,000 voters, most of them African-Americans, because their names resembled those of persons convicted of a crime. The state eventually acknowledged that the purges were improper — two years after the election.

Rather than end Florida-style purges, however, HAVA has nationalized them. Maez, the elections supervisor in New Mexico, says he was the victim of faulty list management by a private contractor hired by the state. Hector Balderas, the state auditor, was also purged from the voter list. The nation's youngest elected Hispanic official, Balderas hails from Mora County, one of the poorest in the state, which had the highest rate of voters forced to cast provisional ballots. "As a strategic consideration," he notes, "there are those that benefit from chaos" at the ballot box.
All told, states reported scrubbing at least 10 million voters from their rolls on questionable grounds between 2004 and 2006. Colorado holds the record: Donetta Davidson, the Republican secretary of state, and her GOP successor oversaw the elimination of nearly one of every six of their state's voters. Bush has since appointed Davidson to the Election Assistance Commission, the federal agency created by HAVA, which provides guidance to the states on "list maintenance" methods.

[SIZE=+1]4. Requiring Unnecessary Voter ID's[/SIZE] Even if voters run the gauntlet of the new registration laws, they can still be blocked at the polling station. In an incident last May, an election official in Indiana denied ballots to 10 nuns seeking to vote in the Democratic primary because their driver's licenses or passports had expired. Even though Indiana has never recorded a single case of voter-ID fraud, it is one of two dozen states that have enacted stringent new voter-ID statutes.
On its face, the requirement to show a government-issued ID doesn't seem unreasonable. "I want to cash a check to pay for my groceries, I've got to show a little bit of ID," Karl Rove told the Republican National Lawyers Association in 2006. But many Americans lack easy access to official identification. According to a recent study for the Election Law Journal, young people, senior citizens and minorities — groups that traditionally vote Democratic — often have no driver's licenses or state ID cards. According to the study, one in 10 likely white voters do not possess the necessary identification. For African-Americans, the number lacking such ID is twice as high.

[SIZE=+1]5. Rejecting "Spoiled" Ballots[/SIZE] Even intrepid voters who manage to cast a ballot may still find their vote discounted. In 2004, election officials discarded at least 1 million votes nationwide after classifying them as "spoiled" because blank spaces, stray marks or tears made them indecipherable to voting machines. The losses hit hardest among minorities in low-income precincts, who are often forced to vote on antiquated machines. The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, in its investigation of the 2000 returns from Florida, found that African-Americans were nearly 10 times more likely than whites to have their ballots rejected, a ratio that holds nationwide.
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Proponents of HAVA claimed the law would correct the spoilage problem by promoting computerized balloting. Yet touch-screen systems have proved highly unreliable — especially in minority and low-income precincts. A statistical analysis of New Mexico ballots by a voting-rights group called VotersUnite found that Hispanics who voted by computer in 2004 were nearly five times more likely to have their votes unrecorded than those who used paper ballots. In a close election, such small discrepancies can make a big difference: In 2004, the number of spoiled ballots in New Mexico — 19,000 — was three times George Bush's margin of victory.

[SIZE=+1]6. Challenging "Provisional" Ballots[/SIZE] In 2004, an estimated 3 million voters who showed up at the polls were refused regular ballots because their registration was challenged on a technicality. Instead, these voters were handed "provisional" ballots, a fail-safe measure mandated by HAVA to enable officials to review disputed votes. But for many officials, resolving disputes means tossing ballots in the trash. In 2004, a third of all provisional ballots — as many as 1 million votes — were simply thrown away at the discretion of election officials.

Many voters are given provisional ballots under an insidious tactic known as "vote caging," which uses targeted mailings to disenfranchise black voters whose addresses have changed. In 2004, despite a federal consent order forbidding Republicans from engaging in the practice, the GOP sent out tens of thousands of letters to "confirm" the addresses of voters in minority precincts. If a letter was returned for any reason — because the voter was away at school or serving in the military — the GOP challenged the voter for giving a false address. One caging operation was exposed when an RNC official mistakenly sent the list to a parody site called GeorgeWBush.org — instead of to the official campaign site GeorgeWBush.com.
 
^None of that really strikes me as creepy. Sneaky, underhanded, illegal? Sure. I guess when I think creepy I'm thinking more along the lines of conspiracy theories.
 
[quote name='Dori-dori']Cool, you from Colorado? Me too!

Man, I totally wanted to go (especially since I live near the Light Rail), but I had work that day and didn't know enough in advance to change my schedule ):

Good job on your mom's part haha.

I'm thinking about voting early since I have classes all day on the 4th, but this is also my first election, and I kinda wanted to get the experience of waitin' in line and talking with voters and such.[/QUOTE]


I went to the rally yesterday. It was pretty cool to be a part of. They had an S-load of early voting booths at the nearby city building.
 
Now, this is a story all about how
Obama's life got flipped-turned upside down
And I liked to take a minute
I'll tell everyone
How he became the King of a Washington

In Honolulu born and raised
Smokin marijuana was how he spent most of his days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And shootin some cocaine outside of the school
When he realized that drugs were no good
He decided a degree in political science he should
He went to Columbia for his BA
In hopes of becoming the King of Washington someday

Obama cleaned the streets of Chicago with little fear
He used this to launch his career
He became a senator and got a lot done
So one day he could be the King of Washington

On January 20th after the People Voted
And in history the day would be noted
For Bush left the kingdom
It had finally begun
Obama's term as the King of Washington
 
http://leishacamden.blogspot.com/2008/10/not-that-it-matters.html

Mary lacked money to fly home to Norway – he saved her love

ÅSGÅRDSTRAND (VG): Mary was a newlywed and ready to move to Norway, but was stopped at the airport because she didn’t have enough money for the trip. Then a stranger turned up and paid for her.

Mary Menth Andersen was 31 years old at the time and had just married Norwegian Dag Andersen. She was looking forward to starting a new life in Åsgårdstrand in Vestfold with him. But first she had to get all of her belongings across to Norway. The date was November 2nd, 1988.
At the airport in Miami things were hectic as usual, with long lines at the check-in counters. When it was finally Mary’s turn and she had placed her luggage on the baggage line, she got the message that would crush her bubbling feeling of happiness.
-You’ll have to pay a 103 dollar surcharge if you want to bring both those suitcases to Norway, the man behind the counter said.
Mary had no money. Her new husband had travelled ahead of her to Norway, and she had no one else to call.
-I was completely desperate and tried to think which of my things I could manage without. But I had already made such a careful selection of my most prized possessions, says Mary.

Although she explained the situation to the man behind the counter, he showed no signs of mercy.
-I started to cry, tears were pouring down my face and I had no idea what to do. Then I heard a gentle and friendly voice behind me saying, That’s OK, I’ll pay for her.
Mary turned around to see a tall man whom she had never seen before.
-He had a gentle and kind voice that was still firm and decisive. The first thing I thought was, Who is this man?
Although this happened 20 years ago, Mary still remembers the authority that radiated from the man.
-He was nicely dressed, fashionably dressed with brown leather shoes, a cotton shirt open at the throat and khaki pants, says Mary.
She was thrilled to be able to bring both her suitcases to Norway and assured the stranger that he would get his money back. The man wrote his name and address on a piece of paper that he gave to Mary. She thanked him repeatedly. When she finally walked off towards the security checkpoint, he waved goodbye to her.

The piece of paper said ‘Barack Obama’ and his address in Kansas, which is the state where his mother comes from. Mary carried the slip of paper around in her wallet for years, before it was thrown out.
-He was my knight in shining armor, says Mary, smiling.
She paid the 103 dollars back to Obama the day after she arrived in Norway. At that time he had just finished his job as a poorly paid community worker* in Chicago, and had started his law studies at prestigious Harvard university.
In the spring of 2006 Mary’s parents had heard that Obama was considering a run for president, but that he had still not decided. They chose to write a letter in which they told him that he would receive their votes. At the same time, they thanked Obama for helping their daughter 18 years earlier.
In a letter to Mary’s parents dated May 4th, 2006 and stamped ‘United States Senate, Washington DC’, Barack Obama writes**:
‘I want to thank you for the lovely things you wrote about me and for reminding me of what happened at Miami airport. I’m happy I could help back then, and I’m delighted to hear that your daughter is happy in Norway. Please send her my best wishes. Sincerely, Barack Obama, United States senator’.
The parents sent the letter on to Mary.

This week VG met her and her husband in the café that she runs with her friend Lisbeth Tollefsrud in Åsgårdstrand.
-It’s amazing to think that the man who helped me 20 years ago may now become the next US president, says Mary delightedly.
She has already voted for Obama. She recently donated 100 dollars to his campaign.
She often tells the story from Miami airport, both when race issues are raised and when the conversation turns to the presidential elections.
-I sincerely hope the Americans will see reason and understand that Obama means change, says Mary.

So heartwarming.
 
Thanks, now I'm too diabetes-addled to check Snopes.

EDIT: And now everyone else in this thread has overdosed on Ingersoll. Everybody wins!
 
I'm gettin pretty psyched. I think Obama is definitely going to win and with a democratic house and executive, I think things are really going to improve.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I'm gettin pretty psyched. I think Obama is definitely going to win and with a democratic house and executive, I think things are really going to improve.[/quote]

well, here's to hope!
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I'm gettin pretty psyched. I think Obama is definitely going to win...[/quote]

:whistle2:$ Sssshhhh...don't say stuff like that!

People might get complacent and stay home on November 4!
 
[quote name='bmachine']:whistle2:$ Sssshhhh...don't say stuff like that!

People might get complacent and stay home on November 4![/QUOTE]

It goes both ways... the more people think the election is already over, the less people vote. Republicans stay home if they think they lost no different than Democrats stay home if they think they won.

The goal is to tell Republicans the election's over and tell Democrats it's nail-bitingly close.
 
Now that's just something I dont get, why on earth would people decide not to vote if their candidate is expected to *win*? I would think that would make you *more* likely to vote: The pride of being on the *winning* team. People in general, and Americans in particular, really perplex me.

As for me, I have absolutely *ZERO* intention of voting on November 4th (voted absentee 10/9 :))
 
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