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#1411 Xuchilbara

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 05:53 AM

Kind of pot vs kettle of me being a journalist, but I hate when the national media starts writing about games. I feel like they never know what they're talking about and they end up fucking shit up.


Very true. But there inexperience in the field makes non-gamers that more eager to throwdon copius ammounts of money for something they've been lead to believe they want.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:43 AM

Does anybody know if Wii games played on the Wii U will support the new pro controller? I may have to just keep playing Brawl on the Wii since I play with a GC controller, but if the pro works then that might be ok.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:37 AM

!?!?!

With Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, you needed to be there at least 12-24 hours before launch to secure a spot in line.

This time with most stores doing pre-orders,
there will be very few first-come first-serve consoles available.


I don't know where you lived during the PS3 launch, but here in FL, those idiots were lined up with tents outside of best buy 5-7 days before launch!

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:16 AM

Here's an interesting situation I've found myself in. I reserved a Deluxe on Fry's website on Sunday. The pre-order went through, and everything seemed fine. I paid for Overnight shipping so I could get it as soon as possible.

This morning, I received an email from them saying that the item is currently out of stock, but will ship as soon as it's available. It gives me the option of cancelling my pre-order. Should I be worried? What are the odds that my order will be satisfied at or near launch?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:51 AM

Does anybody know if Wii games played on the Wii U will support the new pro controller? I may have to just keep playing Brawl on the Wii since I play with a GC controller, but if the pro works then that might be ok.


No, they won't. They specifically state on nintendo.com that the new pro controller is for WiiU games only.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:05 AM

FYI Frys has the basic preorder
NO Deluxe :(

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:22 AM

Here's an interesting situation I've found myself in. I reserved a Deluxe on Fry's website on Sunday. The pre-order went through, and everything seemed fine. I paid for Overnight shipping so I could get it as soon as possible.

This morning, I received an email from them saying that the item is currently out of stock, but will ship as soon as it's available. It gives me the option of cancelling my pre-order. Should I be worried? What are the odds that my order will be satisfied at or near launch?


Just got the same email. I doubt we're getting one.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:16 PM

Here's an interesting situation I've found myself in. I reserved a Deluxe on Fry's website on Sunday. The pre-order went through, and everything seemed fine. I paid for Overnight shipping so I could get it as soon as possible.

This morning, I received an email from them saying that the item is currently out of stock, but will ship as soon as it's available. It gives me the option of cancelling my pre-order. Should I be worried? What are the odds that my order will be satisfied at or near launch?


Cancel it. Fry's is not good at internet. They have done this before.

#1419 Ericsc

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:17 PM

Here's an interesting situation I've found myself in. I reserved a Deluxe on Fry's website on Sunday. The pre-order went through, and everything seemed fine. I paid for Overnight shipping so I could get it as soon as possible.

This morning, I received an email from them saying that the item is currently out of stock, but will ship as soon as it's available. It gives me the option of cancelling my pre-order. Should I be worried? What are the odds that my order will be satisfied at or near launch?


Just got the same email. I doubt we're getting one.


Got the email too. :( Ordered DELUXE Saturday night, after it was posted on CAG

Anybody get the email that ordered earlier in the day on Saturday or Friday?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:36 PM

I'm very grateful I went to Best Buy on Sunday - they still had the in-store pre-orders up. I was able to throw down my $5 (I was shocked it was only $5) for a Deluxe console. I'm so relieved - I don't have to spend all fall trying to secure one, or worse standing in line outside of store after store like I had to do with Wii (I got one in the 2nd shipment after launch). From the wording on the receipt, and talking to a few BB employees (including some that are above store level that I know) if you have a receipt you will get one launch day unless the truck is in some accident or something on it's way to store (but, like Wii, they will probably have it out back days before).

My take : Deluxe models will be in high demand and low availability, but I bet the white ones will be readily available with little effort before Xmas. Nintendo is clearly using a dual strategy here - the Deluxe model is by far a superior value (I would have paid $50 extra just for the black console and the extra memory, the other stuff - including a game that will go for $60 - is just a great bonus). So the black model will get them press and publicity for it's scarcity, but they won't piss off everyone who just wants to own a console like they did last time, when it was a year before you walked into a store and knew that there would be a Wii on the shelf. Many more casual people gave up by the time they were everywhere. The "wow I want to get that" wore off for people who may have become first time console buyers (or first time since the days of SNES buyers).

Looking at how preorder prices are already dropping out there for resellers, I also agree that a LOT of presales went to them. Heck, I even thought of picking up an extra. I didn't (too much hassle) but I am sure some bought up ten of 'em. For me, Best Buy was the lesser of the evils - I don't do business with GameStop (for a myriad of reasons), and all the other places besides Toys R Us didn't seem to have in-store, and Toys R Us pissed me off with the Wii launch 'cause after I stood in line I was told I could only get a "bundle" for $200 more and crap I didn't want. At least I'll get some nice reward zone points out of it.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:57 PM

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My take : Deluxe models will be in high demand and low availability, but I bet the white ones will be readily available with little effort before Xmas. Nintendo is clearly using a dual strategy here - the Deluxe model is by far a superior value (I would have paid $50 extra just for the black console and the extra memory, the other stuff - including a game that will go for $60 - is just a great bonus). So the black model will get them press and publicity for it's scarcity, but they won't piss off everyone who just wants to own a console like they did last time, when it was a year before you walked into a store and knew that there would be a Wii on the shelf. Many more casual people gave up by the time they were everywhere. The "wow I want to get that" wore off for people who may have become first time console buyers (or first time since the days of SNES buyers).

I never really thought of it but I think you might be right. The $50 gets you a ton of more stuff, and people might be seeing the free game, and thinking it's the better value. I only really care about the extra HD Space and the cradle charger for the Wii-U gamepad, but if I really had to get an 8GB model, I would. I mean Nintendoland is fucking worthless to me :lol:. Gamestop will probably only give you 25 cents for it anyway because it's a pack in game.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:05 PM

I don't know where you lived during the PS3 launch, but here in FL, those idiots were lined up with tents outside of best buy 5-7 days before launch!


I waited a good 15 hours outside of a Toys R Us in Tallahassee to get a PS3 pre-order. I was 4th in line and they were getting 4 PS3s in stock, so I was lucky.

Also camped for about 8 hours just to pre-order a Wii from Gamestop.

#1423 Belarr

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My take : Deluxe models will be in high demand and low availability, but I bet the white ones will be readily available with little effort before Xmas. Nintendo is clearly using a dual strategy here - the Deluxe model is by far a superior value (I would have paid $50 extra just for the black console and the extra memory, the other stuff - including a game that will go for $60 - is just a great bonus). So the black model will get them press and publicity for it's scarcity, but they won't piss off everyone who just wants to own a console like they did last time, when it was a year before you walked into a store and knew that there would be a Wii on the shelf. Many more casual people gave up by the time they were everywhere. The "wow I want to get that" wore off for people who may have become first time console buyers (or first time since the days of SNES buyers).

Looking at how preorder prices are already dropping out there for resellers, I also agree that a LOT of presales went to them. Heck, I even thought of picking up an extra. I didn't (too much hassle) but I am sure some bought up ten of 'em. For me, Best Buy was the lesser of the evils - I don't do business with GameStop (for a myriad of reasons), and all the other places besides Toys R Us didn't seem to have in-store, and Toys R Us pissed me off with the Wii launch 'cause after I stood in line I was told I could only get a "bundle" for $200 more and crap I didn't want. At least I'll get some nice reward zone points out of it.

As much as I'd like to think you're right, the publicity around all this, regardless of the color/version of the console, has and will drive people into a feeding frenzy of 'I want one' or 'I want to profit off them'. For the first month or so up and up until after Christmas, trying to find a Wii U Deluxe or Basic is going to be difficult to say the least.

The resale market is fluctuating by hundreds of dollars every day because no one knows what the demand for them is yet and most are not desperate enough to pay much than retail for them at the moment. The market testing time will be the two weeks leading up to and after the release date. That's when the hype will peak and every parent/Johnny come lately will be trying to get one for Christmas or trying to profit off it.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:24 PM

About the Fry's backorder emails, I did a little googling and found another thread talking about the same issue preordering a different product. They emailed Fry's about it and received this response:

Dear valued Frys.com customer,

Thank you for contacting Frys.com. The automated backorder message you received was sent because you ordered a pre-order item. Unfortunately, our system does not differentiate between a "pre-order" and a "backorder." The order you have made is unavailable for shipping at this time and is expected to ship on the manufacturer's release date. We apologize for any confusion this may have caused.

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
Casey M.
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I got the same backorder email and I'm still not sure what to think of it but this puts me at ease a little bit.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:25 PM

As much as I'd like to think you're right, the publicity around all this, regardless of the color/version of the console, has and will drive people into a feeding frenzy of 'I want one' or 'I want to profit off them'. For the first month or so up and up until after Christmas, trying to find a Wii U Deluxe or Basic is going to be difficult to say the least.

The resale market is fluctuating by hundreds of dollars every day because no one knows what the demand for them is yet and most are not desperate enough to pay much than retail for them at the moment. The market testing time will be the two weeks leading up to and after the release date. That's when the hype will peak and every parent/Johnny come lately will be trying to get one for Christmas or trying to profit off it.


This console launch will be interesting. I have talked to a few people this week about WiiU at work and no one has heard of it. These are current Wii owners that were oblivious to the WiiU. Also, I don't remember retailers pre-ordering any of the consoles back to the PS1 and original Xbox, so demand and press may be controlled because there will not be a line of people waiting outside a store for days. As long as Nintendo can produce these without part shortages, I do beleive these will be findable in most cities this holiday season.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:10 PM

Here's an interesting situation I've found myself in. I reserved a Deluxe on Fry's website on Sunday. The pre-order went through, and everything seemed fine. I paid for Overnight shipping so I could get it as soon as possible.

This morning, I received an email from them saying that the item is currently out of stock, but will ship as soon as it's available. It gives me the option of cancelling my pre-order. Should I be worried? What are the odds that my order will be satisfied at or near launch?


Cancel it. Fry's is not good at internet. They have done this before.


Fry's sucks at stock management online. There's probably no way you're gonna get it day one.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:48 PM

G4 just announced the launch release list, as well as titles available by the end of the year:

http://www.g4tv.com/...er-18/#readmore


Games to be Released on November 18:
  • Assassin's Creed 3
  • Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 2
  • Darksiders 2
  • Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
  • ESPN: Sports Connection
  • Game Party Champions
  • Just Dance 4
  • Madden NFL 13
  • Marvel Avengers: Battle For Earth
  • Mass Effect 3: Special Edition
  • NBA 2K13
  • New Super Mario Bros. U
  • Nintendo Land
  • Rabbids Land
  • Rayman Legends
  • Scribblenanuts Unlimited
  • Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed
  • Tekken Tag Tournament 2
  • Transformers Prime
  • Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
  • Zombi U
Games to be Released before the end of 2012:
  • Ben 10: Omniverse (Fall)
  • Family Party: 30 Great Games Obstacle Arcade (December)
  • Funk Barn (November)
  • Jeopardy! (November)
  • Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (November)
  • Rise of the Guardians (November)
  • Sing party (November)
  • Skylanders Giants (Holiday)
  • Tank! Tank! Tank! (November)
  • Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper (Holiday)
  • Wheel of Fortune (November)


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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:52 PM

G4 just announced the launch release list, as well as titles available by the end of the year:

http://www.g4tv.com/...er-18/#readmore


Dang, no Pikmin 3.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:53 PM

I never really thought of it but I think you might be right. The $50 gets you a ton of more stuff, and people might be seeing the free game, and thinking it's the better value. I only really care about the extra HD Space and the cradle charger for the Wii-U gamepad, but if I really had to get an 8GB model, I would. I mean Nintendoland is fucking worthless to me :lol:. Gamestop will probably only give you 25 cents for it anyway because it's a pack in game.


I do want Nintendoland (as a "here is what the Wii U can do" demonstration for people who come over, plus I am a sucker for Nintendo characters) but the $60 stand-alone price would have really stung.

That's honestly why I believe what I do - if the white was $250 and the deluxe $350 it would have made more sense, but seriously - the dollar value of the deluxe makes it a no-brainer for most besides the really casual. Although some Nintendo sites are saying that the white is directed to "hardcore" because it does not include Nintendoland, I think that it's the opposite because of all it's got : first, it's not white, which I think most people prefer, and second, the 4x amount of memory needs that even if you plan to be a big downloader you won't need an external HD right away.

On top of that, you get a game that will retail for $60, a set of stands that Nintendo is selling separately for $20, plus whatever discounts/etc. the deluxe membership thing has. So that's $80+ of value of things a lot of us want anyway - so on top of the color, and the 4x memory - I can't see even many casual people seeing the list of stuff and not thinking they might as well spend the $50 if they can.

So it's a way for Nintendo to get all the press of being rare and hard to get, but on the other hand not the bad press they got when it took a year for them to actually be regularly on the store shelves. They really PO'd a lot of people last time - I know quite a few families who's last console was the NES or SNES that wanted them, but not having an easy way to get one for so long they pretty much lost interest.


As much as I'd like to think you're right, the publicity around all this, regardless of the color/version of the console, has and will drive people into a feeding frenzy of 'I want one' or 'I want to profit off them'. For the first month or so up and up until after Christmas, trying to find a Wii U Deluxe or Basic is going to be difficult to say the least.

The resale market is fluctuating by hundreds of dollars every day because no one knows what the demand for them is yet and most are not desperate enough to pay much than retail for them at the moment. The market testing time will be the two weeks leading up to and after the release date. That's when the hype will peak and every parent/Johnny come lately will be trying to get one for Christmas or trying to profit off it.


Sure, the resale market is surely in flux because of that. And we really won't know how "rare" the Deluxe will be until after release day and what people will really pay for it up to Xmas. But many stores still have white preorders - both my local Best Buy and Toys R Us are taking pre-orders for the white even now. So either they are making a lot more of them, or there is far more demand for the black. I do feel bad for people who get "stuck" with a white and do not want one - I can't imagine many people who are already paying $300 who don't see the value there for $350. But if someone has "gotta have it" - then the white will do instead of no console at all.

I think Nintendo has already showed an unprecedented control over the retailers/pre-orders so far. I mean, there is really little chance that all US stores practically ended online preorders of the Deluxe on the same day, and that in-store deluxe pre-orders pretty much went down the next day, in all areas of the country. It was a coordinated effort. I won't be surprised at all if we eventually see some leaked documents or other material indicating this was planned by Nintendo this way, at which time I think they will deserve a :applause: for well played.

Here is how I think it will go down: between now and launch day, I think there will be a few more spurts here and there of open pre-orders, mostly for the white version. They appeased the "hard core" fans with three days of relatively painless pre-ordering - online, in store, whatever, you had several days where stuff was open, not "sold out in three minutes, I couldn't even logon". And in-store pre-orders were crazy easy to get, at least at Best Buy - print a coupon out of a machine, walk up and pay $5. Come back launch day. Similar at Toys R Us with $20 deposit (I'm still shocked Best Buy was still only $5).

At launch day, I think there will be 0 deluxes available for anything but pre-orders, and there will be small quantities of white ones. I see the line at Best Buy being - stand here for pre-orders, and everyone else gets to stand in line for a ticket to get one of the white models they have for first-come-first-serve. And I'm willing to bet (at least at midnight/opening morning, what have you depending on the retailer) they will also have limited preorder slots to get a deluxe by Xmas so parents who show up thinking they will be getting an Xmas present for their kids and finding out you had to preorder can drop the coin.

Then, likely staggering here and there pre-orders at various retailers up until Xmas, with several shipments, almost all white (I won't guess at an exact ratio, but I bet it will be at least 2:1). Nintendo has been so coordinated with this round, I bet they will also rotate retailers and time periods so everyone gets a shot (they seem to be trying very hard to please them to make it easier on us - but still drive up publicity and demands).

The problem with the Wii launch was that you literally had to spend hours researching the web and making calls to find the damn thing. I remember I finally got mine from reading a message board where a best buy employee was giving a heads up about their 2nd shipment, and which stores would have them. I was there at 4am driving around, though I didn't actually get out of the car until 8am for a 10am opening. They gave out tickets at 9 - and we all left (I went to breakfast LOL). At 10am, we just waited in our warm cars for it to open as we had tickets, while by then the people that got the Sunday paper and found out about it had lined up 30 min or so early. They were irritated when we walked right past them, there were 0 left. I remember this one dad who thought they were "first" in line was so excited and then really upset that they were already gone. I very clearly can still hear him saying (and I understood his frustration), "When do you give out tickets? How do you find out if you don't open till 10?" because they had come outside at 9 when the newspaper ad specified they would have a certain amount in stock "at opening" which was 10.

That pissed a lot of people off, and I think Nintendo wants to avoid that again. But they also have a worldwide launch and don't want them to just be sitting on the shelf as PS3's did*. I think everyone who wants a Wii U can get one by Xmas (at least the white one) unless you run out on Dec 24th and expect to score one, and I think Nintendo is going to rely on software to pull them through the rest of year one, instead of story after story just being about how hard to get it is - I think it will focus on how good it is once you've gotten it. They really seemed to learn from the mistakes of the Wii.


*On the PS3 debate - by Xmas they were sitting on shelves, at least in my area. Before I got my Wii, I waited in about a half dozen "outside of stores trying to get one" lines, and there were always scores of people for a Wii, and like 2-3 for a PS, and they usually got 5 or 6 so when all the Wii's were out the door, there were still a couple of PS3's anyone could have walked up and gotten. After the 2nd and 3rd shipments started coming in, they were literally sitting on the shelves for days at a time - I remember going to one store several days in a row (looking for Wii Remotes - my gosh, everyone remember that even they were hard to come by at the beginning?) and seeing the same box of one (it had a little dent so I recognized it each time) sitting for three mornings in a row. People forget these were $500-600, plus Blu-ray still hadn't won the war yet, so it was less of a draw to people on the fence on spending that much at the time. It rebounded - but the launch didn't have nearly the demand at those prices as the Wii did at the same time.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:54 PM

Dang, no Pikmin 3.


Yeah, very disappointing. That was the game I was looking forward to the most :(

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:00 PM

Broke down and preordered a basic off of gamestop.com, this will be the first time I get a console at launch. Thinking of zombi u and maybe black ops 2. Honestly speaking I'm not really interested in black ops as I have been really underwhelmed with what I've seen. Only reason I want a second game is to make sure I have something interesting to play in case zombi u isn't my cup of tea. Rayman legends looks good, but I'm on the fence right now. I could go for Mass effect 3 or Assassins creed, but I never really got into those franchises. Anyway, glad I have secured the system for launch. I would have waited but don't want to spend months waiting for it well into 2013. I want to make sure that next year my money is free for the next xbox or playstation. I have a feeling one will launch mid to late next year and really think it will be microsoft.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:24 PM

Nice to see Black Ops 2 for release...if it supports 3D I'll get it for the Wii U. Already getting Nintendoland, NSMBU and Zombie U on release day. I'll pick up Rayman Legends when it gets down to around $30.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:48 PM

G4 just announced the launch release list, as well as titles available by the end of the year:

http://www.g4tv.com/...er-18/#readmore

That is a fucking phenomenal Day 1 list. Fuck, I might even get Tekken TT2 for the system too now assuming the TvC Wii Stick works with the Wii-U.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:52 PM

Hey I just tried ordering the Deluxe BUNDLE from walmart.com but it didn't go through. There was a payment error at the end and the balance was charged and then reversed. Is it because there are no more deluxe models available? Can someone who tried recently this confirm?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:53 PM

I preordered a deluxe console online for in store pickup at the Mall of America Best Buy.

Looking at the release day list above, I'll probably just get New Super Mario. There are other games on that list I'll be buying for Xbox 360. I might want to play Zombie U, but I need to see a lot more about that game.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:08 PM

I guess i will do a midnight or something at my target :( Unless amazon or newegg step up and take some pre-orders.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:20 PM

Hey I just tried ordering the Deluxe BUNDLE from walmart.com but it didn't go through. There was a payment error at the end and the balance was charged and then reversed. Is it because there are no more deluxe models available? Can someone who tried recently this confirm?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:22 PM

I ordered the basic from best buy last night. I was on the fence, but I have never missed a nintendo home console launch. my wife pushed me over the edge to order it.

I have never had to pre-order a system, but I like the idea of just being able to show up and have one waiting for me.

has there been any news on an accessories pack, which would have the extras included with the premium version?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:31 PM

Hello everyone just a new user here.. Just wanted to thank everyone for all the deals and updates! You guys saved my Christmas because I would not have known this was available to preorder already and I secured 2 deluxe Wii U's (One at Best Buy and one at Gamestop) for my family and I on the first day. Thankfully I won't have to camp out this year! That being said I'm pretty disappointed Pikmin 3 isn't coming anytime soon. Guess I'll just be adding $5 more to New Super Mario Bros. U :)

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:46 PM

Glad ZombiU made it as a day one launch title.