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CAGcast #202: The E3 2010 Not So Limited Collector's Edition


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#211 retromufc

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:17 PM

.. if he wasnt doing this site there would be no collective place to find cheap games on a regular basis. Simmer down people, pull up your big people pants and get over it.


What does the cagcast have to do with this site even? Nothing. This site is cheapassgamer yet there was almost never anything in any episode I listened to about gaming deals. Why do they even bother to attend E3, it has nothing to do with anything on this site? This podcast is not even in touch with the website that promotes it. You would think a podcast from a website focusing on how to get games for the lowest possible cost would somehow have the site's theme involved in it. The podcast is in no relation to the content on this site and is news I can get elsewhere. This site fills a niche and the podcast does not follow it. So why even listen?

I mean they scored an interview with a major player in Mass Effect 2 and this site has nothing to do with promoting games or gaming news. It's silly really. This podcast would fade away and still the site would be great. You just need to differentiate the quality of the site from the douchebaggery of the podcast host.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:20 PM

I always enjoy the CAGcast but damn Cheapy you were a real douche to Wombat. Form saying you don't really know him and then when he says his favourite part of the show was hanging with you and Ship, you basically went and said you didn't really like hanging with him and then you repeatedly called to Ship for back up. Not cool man.

#213 AriesDog

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:24 PM

One of my favorite episodes of the CAGcast. Wombat is a great member of the show but he's always been cocky. It's not good or bad. That's just his personality. And the we all love to see a cocky guy taken down a peg once in a while. He'll be back to form next week.

#214 ryemm

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:48 PM

What's sad is you guys put a ton of work into that cagcast, but all most people will remember is the cag-fight. Next time hit the pause/edit button and air that stuff out in private.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 07:00 PM

One of my favorite episodes of the CAGcast. Wombat is a great member of the show but he's always been cocky. It's not good or bad. That's just his personality. And the we all love to see a cocky guy taken down a peg once in a while. He'll be back to form next week.


You need to see the difference between taking cracks at each other for fun and being straight out hurtful. Some of the stuff with wombat being a schwaggrabber and stuff was fine, but calling him annoying, bitchy and not enjoyable to be around after first saying "i don't really know you and i don't really like you" isn't fun for anyone, especially when you're being ganged up on. People who found those comments funny just don't possess empathy or are just douche bags.

Wombat always take humorous comments against him well, but this was as i said, just hurtful and over the line.

#216 collipop

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 07:09 PM

What's sad is you guys put a ton of work into that cagcast, but all most people will remember is the cag-fight. Next time hit the pause/edit button and air that stuff out in private.


How did they put a ton of work in? All they did was talk about what they saw at the show, I cant see how this is anymore work than a normal cast.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 07:35 PM

How did they put a ton of work in? All they did was talk about what they saw at the show, I cant see how this is anymore work than a normal cast.


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#218 DarkNessBear

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 07:40 PM

It's not really the comments ON the show that made it over the top. It was their actions during the trip. Not sitting with him, constant criticisms ect. were enough to make anyone feel insecure when they get back. Then add a CAGCast where your fears are basically confirmed, having two of your supposed friends antagonize you for an hour about how you werent really wanted.

Shipwreck would agree with anything CheapyD says. And it's funny how Cheapy always criticizes Wombat for taking free stuff and being cheap, when the site is called CheapAssGamer AND Cheapy got a free fricken 360... and Wombats not the one making over six figures sitting at home. Let the guy take any free crap he wants.

Also, when the question was asked "Best game of E3?" I awaited Ships answer of an obscure game that is not that good. And he says, Vanquish! Of course. Even when CheapyD says, "Yea Gears of Wars with Robots..." ship says, "yea...." like the only reason he chose it was to be different.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:26 PM

I always enjoy the CAGcast but damn Cheapy you were a real douche to Wombat. Form saying you don't really know him and then when he says his favourite part of the show was hanging with you and Ship, you basically went and said you didn't really like hanging with him and then you repeatedly called to Ship for back up. Not cool man.


Don't forget the story about Wombat going to sleep and asking Cheapy to wake him up so they all can go to the Halo Reach party and conveniently Cheapy says he "...forgot", and then him and Shipwreck go to the event. What a freakin bummer for Wombat.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:51 PM

Don't forget the story about Wombat going to sleep and asking Cheapy to wake him up so they all can go to the Halo Reach party and conveniently Cheapy says he "...forgot", and then him and Shipwreck go to the event. What a freakin bummer for Wombat.



damn thats some shady fucked up shit right there. cheapyqueef why even invite someone to go somewhere with you if thats how youre going to treat them?if that was the tone for the whole e3 trip then yeah its pretty obvious cheapyqueef like shipwreck more but instead of being a man about it he goes out of his way to pick on him more and then tell everyone at cag that he does using a lame excuse to suport it.

id be curious to hear from everyones wives about this whole thing. i can pretty much uess what wombats wife would say but idbe curious how the other 2 guys wives feel about their husbands actions.

#221 syd411

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:55 PM

Gotta say: holy crap with the dumping on Wombat. It really takes a level of confidence to stick your neck out and say something like "my favorite part of the show was hanging out with you guys". Then to have the person you say that too go into a tirade of how they are irritated by you. Man, have a touch of empathy Cheapy.

#222 KillingMachine

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:59 PM

While I have nothing against Wombat, it's hard for me to feel sorry for him in this situation. He always seems game to ridicule other people. If he can't take it, he shouldn't be dishing it out so often. We're talking about the guy who used to call Major Nelson "Vagina Clown".

#223 Clarke

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:37 PM

Wow Wombat sounds annoying as hell in person.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:39 PM

Also, when the question was asked "Best game of E3?" I awaited Ships answer of an obscure game that is not that good. And he says, Vanquish! Of course. Even when CheapyD says, "Yea Gears of Wars with Robots..." ship says, "yea...." like the only reason he chose it was to be different.


Maybe you were at E3 and played Vanquish, I'm not sure, but I don't remember talking to anyone there that said the game is "not that good". Maybe it doesn't interest you, but out of all the games I played at E3, I had the most fun with Vanquish. It's got pedigree too as it's being directed by Shinji Mikami (the man with a big role in Resident Evil, Viewtiful Joe, Devil May Cry, etc.).

Thank you for commenting on something other than the debacle though.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:58 PM

Wombat need to lighten up. You shouldnt take passing comments so seriously. You ruined the mood just to draw attention to yourself. Friends get on each other every once in a while, deal with it. Pouting makes you look (sound) insecure and pitiful.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:21 PM

I've been listening to the CAGcast from the very beginning (when I started, I think you only had 10 shows in the can). And I can safely say that in all that time, I have never been as disgusted as I was listening to this episode. I was somewhat prepared, having caught Shipwreck's Audioboo beforehand, but nevertheless, it was hard to endure.

As a CAGcast veteran, I expect a certain amount of ribbing on the show, but this was beyond the pale and really just turned into an ugly, unrelenting (and unprovoked) personal attack on Wombat. Shipwreck was relatively restrained (and still apologized immediately after the show), but Cheapy's behavior was truly reprehensible. I wouldn't blame Wombat a bit if he never appeared on the show again, but I know he has more class than that. Not so sure about Cheapy at this point. Wombat asks you flat out to stop and tells you that you've seriously hurt his feelings (at one point he sounded on the verge of tears) and you just plow ahead and berate him for being too sensitive and make sure he knows just how little you think of him. This in response to him telling the two of you what a great time he had on the trip and that the highlight was spending it with you guys. WTF? Who does that? First class assholes, that's who.

If I spent my time telling my friends the exact limits of my feelings for them and that I'd rather be hanging out with someone else, I'd fully expect them to kick me in the nuts and walk away. Cheapy, maybe being so isolated in Japan has made you emotionally tone deaf, or maybe we're just seeing a darker side to your personality that was always there, but either way, you really need to take a step back and reassess. Because if you keep treating people like they don't mean much to you, you're gonna wind up alone.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:55 PM

I too felt bad for Wombat but I thought it mostly came from Cheapy. Maybe spending three long days together gets on your nerves, it happens to the best of us. Wombat bullies Shipwreck on just about every show though too so I think you guys are even and glad to hear you're all buds.

Also Cheapy, Wombat is just as much your friend as a friend you see in person. You've been talking to him for years on this podcast. I'm pretty damn sure you know him better than anyone else.
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#228 Ivanhoe

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:57 PM

Great cagcast!! One of the best actually.
I think wombat was just a little more sensitive then usual.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:15 PM

Wow Cheapy, that was really classless. Who shit in your Cheerios? Maybe it's time for you can replace Wombat with one of your many friends like Jean Snow or Major Nelson.


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Posted 26 June 2010 - 12:27 AM

While I have nothing against Wombat, it's hard for me to feel sorry for him in this situation. He always seems game to ridicule other people. If he can't take it, he shouldn't be dishing it out so often. We're talking about the guy who used to call Major Nelson "Vagina Clown".



This is exactly what I was talking about a few pages back in my comment. Wombat is so important and so much smarter than everyone else that he dominates the air time and believes he is entitled to make unilateral determinations as to what topics will be discussed and for how long they will be discussed.

He seems completely unaware of how rude it is when he cuts ship or cheapy off. He could care less about calling Major Nelson a "Vagina Clown". And, he mocks the listeners (by way of reading their comments obnoxiously on the air). The point is when he has a captive audience or no one can respond, he has no remorse about being rude, yet when the tables are turned, he turns into Mr. Sensitive.

On a side note, Shipwrecks thanking someone for commenting on something on "other than the debacle" was probably funnier than anything that was said during the entire show.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 12:45 AM

Also, when the question was asked "Best game of E3?" I awaited Ships answer of an obscure game that is not that good. And he says, Vanquish! Of course. Even when CheapyD says, "Yea Gears of Wars with Robots..." ship says, "yea...." like the only reason he chose it was to be different.


Many sites put Vanquish in the list of best of show nominees. When asked at the party what the best game they had seen so far was both Wombat and Shipwreck answered Vanquish independently. There was no clear cut game that blew others away, so I wasn't surprised to hear this. Both my wife and I thought Epic Mickey was the best game we saw.

Wow Wombat sounds annoying as hell in person.


My wife (who has never listened to a CAGcast) thought Wombat was very nice when she met him at the party. We talked to him off and on for about an hour, so we know him better than Cheapy now.

I'm only 1:15 minutes into the CAGcast, so I haven't reached the meltdown yet. I guess my ride home will be interesting.
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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:03 AM

Nice show this week!

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:07 AM

This is exactly what I was talking about a few pages back in my comment. Wombat is so important and so much smarter than everyone else that he dominates the air time and believes he is entitled to make unilateral determinations as to what topics will be discussed and for how long they will be discussed.

He seems completely unaware of how rude it is when he cuts ship or cheapy off. He could care less about calling Major Nelson a "Vagina Clown". And, he mocks the listeners (by way of reading their comments obnoxiously on the air). The point is when he has a captive audience or no one can respond, he has no remorse about being rude, yet when the tables are turned, he turns into Mr. Sensitive.

On a side note, Shipwrecks thanking someone for commenting on something on "other than the debacle" was probably funnier than anything that was said during the entire show.


Seriously, if Wombat reading your comment with a stupid voice upsets you, YOU need some thicker skin. (And I'm speaking as a listener that he has mocked.) Also, if you can't tell the difference between calling a public figure a Vagina Clown and having someone you consider a friend say they don't really know you, then you need a lesson in Apples and Oranges.

There's a major difference between making jokes at someones expense and saying hurtful things without a punch line. Still, it looks like they all worked it out. So the CAGCast will continue, and that's good.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:10 AM

Wombat's personality has little to do with this. I listen to tons of podcasts, and can find irritating sides to any of my favorite hosts, including Wombat. Yes, he tends to be a bit bossy. A few weeks ago, his statement that the cagcast would never, ever discuss kinect again if it cost $150 was beyond silly, but he was dead serious about it. Annoying, but not a mortal sin. And yes, he can dish it out pretty good, but it's always in good fun, even if it rubs some people the wrong way.

But Cheapy's words were not mocking, they were hurtful, whether or not he realized it at the time. Now, Cheapy's not a bad guy, so I'm ready to give him the benefit of the doubt - to some extent. I would expect a profuse apology next week, and it better be sincere. I'm sure he's feeling pretty bad about it right now.

Cheapy, if you're reading this, there's a lesson to be had; you have better friends than you thought you had. Wake up! You should cherish this instead of belittling it.

#235 retromufc

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:31 AM

Wow Cheapy, that was really classless. Who shit in your Cheerios? Maybe it's time for you can replace Wombat with one of your many friends like Jean Snow or Major Nelson.


You used Cheapy and classless in the same sentence, that is something you never see.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:43 AM

this is going to be an interesting CAG cast next week when cheapy says...so comments on last weeks show lol 200 some odd posts hating on him.
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#237 sdp

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:52 AM

Overreacting much everyone?

Wombat was way too "emotional" about it, he obviously hasn't gotten to know Cheapy over the past 5 years of podcasts. It didn't take me many shows to realize what an asshole Cheapy is, he's obviously a very selfish person, he'd be someone I'd like to hang out with but not be friends with. He's demonstrated this MANY times through out the years for Wombat to be surprised that he doesn't consider him a friend, this isn't the first time he's done it. In fact I'm surprised by all the feedback this is getting since IIRC Cheapy was a much bigger douche to Wombat in the pre-100 cagcasts, in fact the past 100 episodes I feel he's lightened up on Wombat a lot. I remember thinking Wombat would likely leave any day back in the older shows because of Cheapy, and I even stopped using the CAG amazon links so amazon would not give Cheapy any money from my purchases. So yeah, Cheapy has never appreciated Wombat for him to have gotten THAT hurt during the cagcast, its something he should already know, Cheapy is an asshole this is nothing new.

I can also relate somewhat to Cheapy , I can bepretty loud but in the right situations, I definitely don't want someone loud embarrassing me in front of others in something that is important to me which is what likely Cheapy felt with Wombat at E3. So yeah I can see myself being annoyed with Wombat being there if I wanted to be seen as not a joke at E3. I'd also be pretty pissed if someone took food of my plate, and yeah I think its fair game for it to be mentioned on the cagcast.

As for the free swag from E3, well I can see how its an unwritten rule for press sites that have a reputation but come on this is CHEAPASSgamer, this is somehting that Cheapy seems to forget. Sure the site made him a lot of money but the site is built on people who are cheap and love free stuff. CAG isn't a reputable gaming website, its a deals website, in fact CAG doesn't really need to be at E3 as "press" for any real reason besides fun. Had I gone as "press" I would have definitely gotten a ton of free swag. With that said I think its fair game that if you grab the swag, for you to be called out on it, nothing wrong with what cheapy did but there was also nothing wrong with what Wombat did, this isn't IGN and its no different than Cheapy getting a 360.

So yeah in conclusion:
Cheapy has always been an asshole no reason for Wombat to get all emo about it.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 02:14 AM

When everyone on the show takes jabs at each other it's usually hilarious. But it was taken to a really uncomfortable level this week with the pile on Wombat.

The whole "liked" instead of "love" thing was so awkard it become hysterical though.

Next week's show should be very interesting.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 02:16 AM

We're talking about the guy who used to call Major Nelson "Vagina Clown".

Are you trying to say that Major Nelson is in fact not a "Vagina Clown"!?

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 02:31 AM

Seriously, if Wombat reading your comment with a stupid voice upsets you, YOU need some thicker skin. (And I'm speaking as a listener that he has mocked.) Also, if you can't tell the difference between calling a public figure a Vagina Clown and having someone you consider a friend say they don't really know you, then you need a lesson in Apples and Oranges.

There's a major difference between making jokes at someones expense and saying hurtful things without a punch line. Still, it looks like they all worked it out. So the CAGCast will continue, and that's good.


First off, the one time a comment of mine was read on the show, it was read by cheapy. My opinion has nothing to do with my own personal experience. I personally just find it immature that wombat can't read a listener's dissenting view without mocking the listener. It's not about me needing thicker skin, it is simply my opinion as an observer of wombat's behavior. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

I do agree with your "public figure vs. friend" rationale, but I still think Wombat was too sensitive. Let's not lose site of the fact that this is still (at least in theory) part of cheapy's job. Cheapy paid to fly wombat there and put him up in a hotel as a sign of his friendship and to have his (and I use this term loosely) co-worker there. That has to count for something.