The Christmas Creature Wrestling Thread
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[quote name='crr_1119']http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/kavalreleased
Yep, Kaval has been released. I guess he finally got tired of jobbing and asked for it. Can't imagine them being dumb enough to let him go on their own. Unless he failed a major wellness policy, which is unlikely.[/QUOTE]
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[quote name='crr_1119']http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/kavalreleased
Yep, Kaval has been released. I guess he finally got tired of jobbing and asked for it. Can't imagine them being dumb enough to let him go on their own. Unless he failed a major wellness policy, which is unlikely.[/QUOTE]
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Kane has definitely gotten better since then.
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I think it's only appropriate to make this the "Merry Christmas, Kaval!" thread....
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I'm sure either Japan or ROH will welcome him back with open arms.
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Oh, Jeremy Borash.
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[quote name='BlueSwim']I'm calling dibs on the next thread.[/QUOTE]
There are no dibs.....it's just a race to 500!
Because I think someone else called dibs last time...
And for the first time ever....I realized that the fans vote REALLY did matter....because it'll make no damn sense for creative to crown him the winner...and drop him so quickly
There are no dibs.....it's just a race to 500!
Because I think someone else called dibs last time...
And for the first time ever....I realized that the fans vote REALLY did matter....because it'll make no damn sense for creative to crown him the winner...and drop him so quickly
^^^^ That looks like a jacked-up, current day Macho Man.
Glen Jacobs has been through SO many shitty characters and angles in his career. Really impressive he managed to become anything, let alone a main-event level guy in the major company.
Still wince when I think about Lawler's "Kane looks like some kind of Christmas Creature!" comment from several years ago. Prick.
Glen Jacobs has been through SO many shitty characters and angles in his career. Really impressive he managed to become anything, let alone a main-event level guy in the major company.
Still wince when I think about Lawler's "Kane looks like some kind of Christmas Creature!" comment from several years ago. Prick.
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Poor Kaval... (my way of subscribing).
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Good thing the Christmas Creature could recover from that gimmick and rise to great heights as Isaac Yankem.
And I doubt Kaval's crying (sure to be in ROH's next PPV), though I am intrigued by the reasoning behind the release.
And I doubt Kaval's crying (sure to be in ROH's next PPV), though I am intrigued by the reasoning behind the release.
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Been gone all day and just found out about Kaval.... that's some bullshit.
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If you win NXT, you get fired. If you lose, you get TV time on RAW.
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I once overheard Alex Shelly and uuuh, the black dude who has Jack Evan's dancing skills, and they seemp perfectly being on the indy scene. For someone like Kaval, who seemed to thoroughly enjoy his work, and who got a chance to shine, even if for a little, on the big screen, I doubt this is much of a letdown.
I think most people realize they're NOT going to be world champs, especially the smaller ones (the Rey's being exceptions every now and then), so it's better to live a short, nice dream, than waste away unappreciated, I guess, as Kaval would have like Shelton or Hass or so many others before him.
I think most people realize they're NOT going to be world champs, especially the smaller ones (the Rey's being exceptions every now and then), so it's better to live a short, nice dream, than waste away unappreciated, I guess, as Kaval would have like Shelton or Hass or so many others before him.
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[quote name='007']I hate to agree with Cena, but... look, right before Christmas? Either Kaval outright asked for his release, or he *really* 
ed up somehow.
I give WWE a lot of shit as a business, but even I don't believe they'd fire a guy out of the blue two days before Christmas.[/QUOTE]
According to TNAWrestlingNews.com the release was a mutual agreement between Kaval (aka Low-Ki) and the WWE. Sad to see him already out of the company this soon but it also shows that WWE creative really isn't that... you know... creative.
Well except for this I just saw on WWE.com:
Oops. :lol:
ed up somehow. I give WWE a lot of shit as a business, but even I don't believe they'd fire a guy out of the blue two days before Christmas.[/QUOTE]
According to TNAWrestlingNews.com the release was a mutual agreement between Kaval (aka Low-Ki) and the WWE. Sad to see him already out of the company this soon but it also shows that WWE creative really isn't that... you know... creative.
Well except for this I just saw on WWE.com:
Oops. :lol:
Like others said, he'll be just fine on the indies (either back to ROH or to Dragon Gate - he'd be GREAT there) or to TNA again. I imagine there's gotta be a reason why he wanted out, and I assume WWE really had nothing for him or they wouldn't let him go so easily.
Hoping he shows up in PWG sometime soon.
Hoping he shows up in PWG sometime soon.
You took my Christmas thread, Beefy! That's OK, I'ma let you finish but I gotta say I was gonna make one of the greatest Christmas wrestling threads of all time. I got next.
I guess those Kaval Body Glove suits didn't sell very well at the merchandise stands. Oh well, this is nothing but good news for those who watch more than WWE to have Lo-Ki back.
Creed's more likely to be Braden Walker'd or Scotty Goldman'd.
I guess those Kaval Body Glove suits didn't sell very well at the merchandise stands. Oh well, this is nothing but good news for those who watch more than WWE to have Lo-Ki back.
Creed's more likely to be Braden Walker'd or Scotty Goldman'd.
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I enjoyed Impact more than usual, and that's even with having my hard drive crash an hour before and making all my usual Impact stuff (screens and quotes) take much longer than usual. AJ-Douglas was good-ish, but paled in comparison to their PPV match. Billing it as an iron man match, then not specifying it was only for 15 minutes was stupid, and hurt the match because they got two falls in just 15 minutes (and one during the break). Also, HOW IS AJ NOT A FACE IN THIS!? He, not Douglas, asks for more time (total face move), Douglas then denies him (dick heel), then Bischoff comes out and says that if AJ doesn't win, he'll be kicked out of his group. AJ's a total face here, they're building up to him having a face turn with the booking, so I'm sure he'll regain the title after Eric helps him. Bischoff, not EY, who was dressed up as either the old TNA mascot Stomper, or a budget version of Wile E. Coyote. God, that skit with him, OJ as short shorts Santa, and Pope ruled.
The Sarita-Velvet brawl was disturbing at times, like RingDivas-level creepy with all the choking and close-ups. I approve of the ass shots during it though. Ditto the knockouts tag title match, which was largely bad minus the fanservice, and then got worse when Winter came in and someone botched the finish to an ungodly degree. The Umaga spinning uranage spot was done so badly that Madison was standing upright AFTER THE SPIN and then just kind of fell over...for some reason. Oh, and despite being choked into near-death, Velvet was perfectly fine on Reaction and somehow managed to not only go to the hospital, but also get treated AND get back in time to cut promos against the woman who choked her. THAT sucked. Her Gangsta Saurus shirt was great though.
The visual of the ring with wacky scaled in it was weird, THEN they showed the ribbons on the posts THEN theing tinsel on the apron. This made it impossible to take anything that happened in the ring seriously, so it's good that they really didn't book anything heavy on the show minus the choking because it would have been even more ridiculous. Foley was largely wasted in the opening. His appearance was depressing because he looked old, sounded sad, and then despite being a legend, was never brought up again on the show. Also, Anderson continued to be an asshole to people who are concerned about his well-being, which fits his character, but isn't all that justified. See, Austin worked as an asshole character because he was an asshole against those who deserved it - Tenay and Taz don't deserve it for asking the man if he's okay.
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The Sarita-Velvet brawl was disturbing at times, like RingDivas-level creepy with all the choking and close-ups. I approve of the ass shots during it though. Ditto the knockouts tag title match, which was largely bad minus the fanservice, and then got worse when Winter came in and someone botched the finish to an ungodly degree. The Umaga spinning uranage spot was done so badly that Madison was standing upright AFTER THE SPIN and then just kind of fell over...for some reason. Oh, and despite being choked into near-death, Velvet was perfectly fine on Reaction and somehow managed to not only go to the hospital, but also get treated AND get back in time to cut promos against the woman who choked her. THAT sucked. Her Gangsta Saurus shirt was great though.
The visual of the ring with wacky scaled in it was weird, THEN they showed the ribbons on the posts THEN the
ing tinsel on the apron. This made it impossible to take anything that happened in the ring seriously, so it's good that they really didn't book anything heavy on the show minus the choking because it would have been even more ridiculous. Foley was largely wasted in the opening. His appearance was depressing because he looked old, sounded sad, and then despite being a legend, was never brought up again on the show. Also, Anderson continued to be an asshole to people who are concerned about his well-being, which fits his character, but isn't all that justified. See, Austin worked as an asshole character because he was an asshole against those who deserved it - Tenay and Taz don't deserve it for asking the man if he's okay.Screens -
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Tenay - The ring has been prepared for the official weigh-ins for the number 1 contenders!
Flair - Could I have your attention please? YOU have an opportunity to look at greatness in this ring all at the same time. Fortune, Immortal, etcetera. However, there’s a stranger amongst us - mainly called by the girls, the Freak. Not sure what that means, but he’s looking for an opportunity that only comes along once. Mr. Bischoff, take over.
Eric - Obviously, we’ve got a weigh-in scheduled tonight, but it’s not your typical weigh-in - they’re fighting for the world title, and we have doctors on-hand because there’s some discussion about Ken Anderson’s condition. They’ll be on-hand…(Morgan’s theme hits) And you couldn’t wait until I asked you to come out!?
Morgan - Lemme take your temperate with this size 17 straight down your ass! (Foley comes out)
Tenay - WE HAVEN’T SEEN HIM IN…AGES!
Foley - Hang on, Matt. You lay a hand on him, you can be fired. Lemme handle this one tonight. This is my first time back since 10/7, when we tore it apart, Ric. Now on that evening, I got my hand raised, but a week later, you were back and I was on my couch. I was the victim of YET ANOTHER CONCUSSION. That was a great moment of my career, and unfortunately, probably the last one, because I’m not the man I used to be BECAUSE OF THOSE DAMNED CONCUSSIONS. It’s not just the amount of concussions, but THE AMOUNT OF HEALING TIME BETWEEN THEM. Ken Anderson’s a lot like me! He loves this business and he wants to win the TNA World title. I saw him wrestle last week - he’s in no condition to wrestle.
Flair - You done? (to Terry)Your first job IS TO HOLD THIS! You’re a whiny, pathetic human being. You raised the bar so high that kids are jumping off roofs breaking their necks, THE BUSINESS SUFFERED BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU DID. EVERYONE SUFFERED BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU STARTED. YOU DIDN’T HAVE THE SKILL TO BE A MAN AND HAVE THE BALLS AND WRESTLE. YOU WOULDN’T BE A HAIR ON MY ASS. I WRESTLED HOURS, HOURS, HOURS 365 DAYS A YEAR, HIT IN THE HEAD THOUSANDS OF TIMES! YOU HAVE NOTHING. YOU’RE THE REASON KIDS ARE IN HOSPITALS!
Foley - I KNOW I’VE BEEN PART OF THE PROBLEM. GIVE ME A CHANCE TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION!
Flair - THE SOLUTION IS TO KISS MY ASS!
Foley - I haven’t always gotten along with Morgan, but he and I have reached the same conclusion - when we die, a man comes into the room when we die, and he cuts the top of our skulls off because we’ve donated our brains.
Flair - WHEN I DIE, IT’LL EITHER BE HERE OR ON TOP OF A HOT WOMAN. I HOPE IT’S HERE, BUT I’LL GO EITHER WAY.
Foley - We made our mistakes, but we’ve learned from them. I’m not gonna let Ken sit on the couch nursing a concussion - he’s in the prime of his career, I’m at the end of mine.
Eric - Mick, you’ve convinced me. I see much more clearly now. WHAT I SEE IS YOU OUT HERE TRYING TO REDEEM YOURSELF. Now that you can’t wrestle anywhere, now that no one’s buying your books or going to your stand-up gigs, NOW you wanna be a hero!? YOU WANNA BE A HERO!? YOU KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING? THIS A PRO WRESTLING VERSION OF EATING YOUR DEAD - YOU’RE EATING OFF THE INJURIES OF THE PEOPLE YOU FORCED TO GET INJURED. NOW HIT MY FRICKIN MUSIC!
Tenay - TONIGHT, ON THE CHRISTMAS EDITION OF IMPACT, AN IRON MAN MATCH BETWEEN AJ AND DOUGLAS WILLIAMS.
Taz - And the finals of the knockouts tag team title tournament.
Hardy - Morgan, this isn’t about you and me anymore - ITS’ ABOUT PRO WRESTLING. We’re a lot alike. You got guys like Foley and Anderson, one says he’s an asshole, and the other loves barb wire baseball bats. Be your own man - you know when Flair and Bischoff are gonna screw ya, cuz they’ll tell you to your face.
Taz - Look at Jeff’s feet, he’s in the Christmas spirit - one foot is wrapped in green, the other’s red.
Jarrett - No one can make me tumm…submit! No one in the crowd can beat me, so I’m gonna have to turn to the pros. There’s a guy who faced one of wrestling’s toughest men last week, Brother Ray, the Amazing Red. RED, YOU DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE.
Tenay - He’s gonna open it up to the pros…and hand-pick his opponent.
Tenay - He’s gonna take 100K back to Brooklyn.
Taz - Maybe I can get the same flight as him.
(after the doctor checks him)Taz - This is like the TSA - what’s the deal?
Tenay - HE GOT THE STUFF IN HIS EYES. Jarrett not only has the height and weight advantage, but now he has the sight advantage!
Taz - Red’s face is red!
Jarrett - You gave it a good shot - got any family, or kids? Lemme give them a shot.
Red - I got a baby brother….
Jarrett - YES! HE’S GOT A BABY BROTHER!
RVD - Tonight’s the night - FINALLY. FINALLY, AFTER LIKE WHAT? Three months of playing Bischoff’s games and mazes and now it comes down to TONIGHT. I’m gonna be looking across the ring at JEFF HARDY and he’s gonna be looking at RVD’s boot. POW!
Lethal - That made me the SIX-TIME X DIVISION Champion. The feeling is…amazing.
Taz - Gen Me could be all brotherly love, but it COULD also come down to them one-on-one…
Lethal - Is it me or does Kaz keep looking over here?
Taz - When you get Robbie in a headlock does all the gel on your arm?
Lethal - That’s why I could never keep a hold on him.
Taz - So no rashes?
Lethal - Not from him, but I got one when Cookie slapped me.
Taz - That’s a different kind of rash - get some prednisone. Mike, save me!
(to Sarita)Velvet - COME HERE, BITCH!
Sarita - I SWEAR TO GOD, I’LL KILLY OU! (chokes Velvet)
Velvet - I can’t breathe…
Love - You okay?
Eric - Dixie, her attorneys, and probably some judges she’s paid off, have us in jeopardy. YOU KNOW THE BELTS MEAN POWER. WE NEED THE LEVERAGE! Hulk Hogan is sitting at home, FORCED to not take part of all of what we’ve accomplished. It’s within our grasp, we can control our own destiny now. THERE’S NO ONE IN THIS ROOM THAT CAN’T LIVE UP TO THE STANDARD THAT HULK HOGAN, OR RIC FLAIR HAVE SET. Or the man sitting before you (looks at Jeff Hardy) HE IS AN ICON. DO IT FOR ALL OF US, DO IT FOR EACH OTHER. WE’RE A TEAM, DAMMIT!
Flair - WOO!
Kendrick - Angela, I love your cookies. I have grown up with lies - that the sun is hot when it is infact cold.
Angela - Lemme look for them…here you go…
Kendrick - Thank you, Angela.
Taz - I can’t even let the pigeons loose her e- I feel bad for Velvet.
Tara - HURRY UP, MADISON, I GOT A DATE TONIGHT.
Taz - Close, but no stogie.
Taz - Angelina’s a former knockouts cham-peen - she’s not gonna lay down like a dead fish. No offense to fish.
(after EY dressed as Stomper and OJ as Santa give him money)Pope - What the hell is he wearing…both of ‘em…
Tenay - IRON MAN RULES - WE’RE GONNA SET THE CLOCK AT 15 MINUTES!
Taz - AJ has powerful quads, calves, and glutes.
AJ - I’M WINNING - I GOT ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD!
AJ - I WANT FIVE MORE MINUTES!
Douglas - I only need one minute!
Taz - AJ’s a super-jock, man!
Tenay - Douglas tries to go snap with the suplex!
Tenay - AJ’S HOOKED ONTO THE CHRISTMAS BOW!
Taz - That’s not gonna hold him!
AJ - Douglas, THESE PEOPLE WANT A WINNER! (fans cheer) SO ONE MORE TIME, YOU AND ME… AT GENESIS!
Douglas - I’m sorry, you had your rematch, but you didn’t beat me. So no.
AJ - WHAT KIND OF FIGHTING CHAMPION ARE YOU!? YOU DON’T HAVE A SET - YOU’RE NOT A MAN. YOU’RE NO BETTER THAN THAT COUNTRY OF YOURS.
Douglas - Keep your mouth shut, YOU’VE GOT YOUR REMATCH. If you beat me, I lose my title, but if I beat you, what do you lose? If I beat you, YOU WALK AWAY FROM FORTUNE FOREVER.
AJ - That’s never gonna happen! FORGET IT!
Eric - As a matter of fact, you will face Doug Williams at Genesis, and if you don’t beat him and bring the TV Title back to me, THERE WILL NO LONGER BE A SPOT FOR YOU IN FORTUNE, IMMORTAL, OR ANYWHERE ELSE!
Taz - Eric hands AJ a big BAH HUMBUG!
Tenay - We’ll talk with Mr. Anderson from his home in Green Bay, Wisconsin. WISCONSIN!
Tenay - Are you cleared?
Ken - I’m cleared to return at Genesis.
Tenay - And you have the proper paperwork? You can bring it to the Impact Zone next week, right?
Ken - WHAT!? I TRY TO BE NICE…(storms off)
Tenay - We’re…JUST TRYING TO DO OUR JOBS!
Taz - There’s a good chance James Storm had some beer in his eggnog today.
Tenay - Ya think?
Taz - Championships bring power - and that’s what Bischoff wants. All the belts by the Genesis PPV.
Taz - RVD will kick the taste out yo mouth.
Tenay - WATCH RVD ROLL!
Taz - ROLLING THUNDER, BABY!
Taz - SICK SPRINGBOARD DDT BY SABIN!
Taz - Vintage, classic, typical stuff from the Guns!
Flair - Could I have your attention please? YOU have an opportunity to look at greatness in this ring all at the same time. Fortune, Immortal, etcetera. However, there’s a stranger amongst us - mainly called by the girls, the Freak. Not sure what that means, but he’s looking for an opportunity that only comes along once. Mr. Bischoff, take over.
Eric - Obviously, we’ve got a weigh-in scheduled tonight, but it’s not your typical weigh-in - they’re fighting for the world title, and we have doctors on-hand because there’s some discussion about Ken Anderson’s condition. They’ll be on-hand…(Morgan’s theme hits) And you couldn’t wait until I asked you to come out!?
Morgan - Lemme take your temperate with this size 17 straight down your ass! (Foley comes out)
Tenay - WE HAVEN’T SEEN HIM IN…AGES!
Foley - Hang on, Matt. You lay a hand on him, you can be fired. Lemme handle this one tonight. This is my first time back since 10/7, when we tore it apart, Ric. Now on that evening, I got my hand raised, but a week later, you were back and I was on my couch. I was the victim of YET ANOTHER CONCUSSION. That was a great moment of my career, and unfortunately, probably the last one, because I’m not the man I used to be BECAUSE OF THOSE DAMNED CONCUSSIONS. It’s not just the amount of concussions, but THE AMOUNT OF HEALING TIME BETWEEN THEM. Ken Anderson’s a lot like me! He loves this business and he wants to win the TNA World title. I saw him wrestle last week - he’s in no condition to wrestle.
Flair - You done? (to Terry)Your first job IS TO HOLD THIS! You’re a whiny, pathetic human being. You raised the bar so high that kids are jumping off roofs breaking their necks, THE BUSINESS SUFFERED BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU DID. EVERYONE SUFFERED BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU STARTED. YOU DIDN’T HAVE THE SKILL TO BE A MAN AND HAVE THE BALLS AND WRESTLE. YOU WOULDN’T BE A HAIR ON MY ASS. I WRESTLED HOURS, HOURS, HOURS 365 DAYS A YEAR, HIT IN THE HEAD THOUSANDS OF TIMES! YOU HAVE NOTHING. YOU’RE THE REASON KIDS ARE IN HOSPITALS!
Foley - I KNOW I’VE BEEN PART OF THE PROBLEM. GIVE ME A CHANCE TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION!
Flair - THE SOLUTION IS TO KISS MY ASS!
Foley - I haven’t always gotten along with Morgan, but he and I have reached the same conclusion - when we die, a man comes into the room when we die, and he cuts the top of our skulls off because we’ve donated our brains.
Flair - WHEN I DIE, IT’LL EITHER BE HERE OR ON TOP OF A HOT WOMAN. I HOPE IT’S HERE, BUT I’LL GO EITHER WAY.
Foley - We made our mistakes, but we’ve learned from them. I’m not gonna let Ken sit on the couch nursing a concussion - he’s in the prime of his career, I’m at the end of mine.
Eric - Mick, you’ve convinced me. I see much more clearly now. WHAT I SEE IS YOU OUT HERE TRYING TO REDEEM YOURSELF. Now that you can’t wrestle anywhere, now that no one’s buying your books or going to your stand-up gigs, NOW you wanna be a hero!? YOU WANNA BE A HERO!? YOU KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING? THIS A PRO WRESTLING VERSION OF EATING YOUR DEAD - YOU’RE EATING OFF THE INJURIES OF THE PEOPLE YOU FORCED TO GET INJURED. NOW HIT MY FRICKIN MUSIC!
Tenay - TONIGHT, ON THE CHRISTMAS EDITION OF IMPACT, AN IRON MAN MATCH BETWEEN AJ AND DOUGLAS WILLIAMS.
Taz - And the finals of the knockouts tag team title tournament.
Hardy - Morgan, this isn’t about you and me anymore - ITS’ ABOUT PRO WRESTLING. We’re a lot alike. You got guys like Foley and Anderson, one says he’s an asshole, and the other loves barb wire baseball bats. Be your own man - you know when Flair and Bischoff are gonna screw ya, cuz they’ll tell you to your face.
Taz - Look at Jeff’s feet, he’s in the Christmas spirit - one foot is wrapped in green, the other’s red.
Jarrett - No one can make me tumm…submit! No one in the crowd can beat me, so I’m gonna have to turn to the pros. There’s a guy who faced one of wrestling’s toughest men last week, Brother Ray, the Amazing Red. RED, YOU DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE.
Tenay - He’s gonna open it up to the pros…and hand-pick his opponent.
Tenay - He’s gonna take 100K back to Brooklyn.
Taz - Maybe I can get the same flight as him.
(after the doctor checks him)Taz - This is like the TSA - what’s the deal?
Tenay - HE GOT THE STUFF IN HIS EYES. Jarrett not only has the height and weight advantage, but now he has the sight advantage!
Taz - Red’s face is red!
Jarrett - You gave it a good shot - got any family, or kids? Lemme give them a shot.
Red - I got a baby brother….
Jarrett - YES! HE’S GOT A BABY BROTHER!
RVD - Tonight’s the night - FINALLY. FINALLY, AFTER LIKE WHAT? Three months of playing Bischoff’s games and mazes and now it comes down to TONIGHT. I’m gonna be looking across the ring at JEFF HARDY and he’s gonna be looking at RVD’s boot. POW!
Lethal - That made me the SIX-TIME X DIVISION Champion. The feeling is…amazing.
Taz - Gen Me could be all brotherly love, but it COULD also come down to them one-on-one…
Lethal - Is it me or does Kaz keep looking over here?
Taz - When you get Robbie in a headlock does all the gel on your arm?
Lethal - That’s why I could never keep a hold on him.
Taz - So no rashes?
Lethal - Not from him, but I got one when Cookie slapped me.
Taz - That’s a different kind of rash - get some prednisone. Mike, save me!
(to Sarita)Velvet - COME HERE, BITCH!
Sarita - I SWEAR TO GOD, I’LL KILLY OU! (chokes Velvet)
Velvet - I can’t breathe…
Love - You okay?
Eric - Dixie, her attorneys, and probably some judges she’s paid off, have us in jeopardy. YOU KNOW THE BELTS MEAN POWER. WE NEED THE LEVERAGE! Hulk Hogan is sitting at home, FORCED to not take part of all of what we’ve accomplished. It’s within our grasp, we can control our own destiny now. THERE’S NO ONE IN THIS ROOM THAT CAN’T LIVE UP TO THE STANDARD THAT HULK HOGAN, OR RIC FLAIR HAVE SET. Or the man sitting before you (looks at Jeff Hardy) HE IS AN ICON. DO IT FOR ALL OF US, DO IT FOR EACH OTHER. WE’RE A TEAM, DAMMIT!
Flair - WOO!
Kendrick - Angela, I love your cookies. I have grown up with lies - that the sun is hot when it is infact cold.
Angela - Lemme look for them…here you go…
Kendrick - Thank you, Angela.
Taz - I can’t even let the pigeons loose her e- I feel bad for Velvet.
Tara - HURRY UP, MADISON, I GOT A DATE TONIGHT.
Taz - Close, but no stogie.
Taz - Angelina’s a former knockouts cham-peen - she’s not gonna lay down like a dead fish. No offense to fish.
(after EY dressed as Stomper and OJ as Santa give him money)Pope - What the hell is he wearing…both of ‘em…
Tenay - IRON MAN RULES - WE’RE GONNA SET THE CLOCK AT 15 MINUTES!
Taz - AJ has powerful quads, calves, and glutes.
AJ - I’M WINNING - I GOT ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD!
AJ - I WANT FIVE MORE MINUTES!
Douglas - I only need one minute!
Taz - AJ’s a super-jock, man!
Tenay - Douglas tries to go snap with the suplex!
Tenay - AJ’S HOOKED ONTO THE CHRISTMAS BOW!
Taz - That’s not gonna hold him!
AJ - Douglas, THESE PEOPLE WANT A WINNER! (fans cheer) SO ONE MORE TIME, YOU AND ME… AT GENESIS!
Douglas - I’m sorry, you had your rematch, but you didn’t beat me. So no.
AJ - WHAT KIND OF FIGHTING CHAMPION ARE YOU!? YOU DON’T HAVE A SET - YOU’RE NOT A MAN. YOU’RE NO BETTER THAN THAT COUNTRY OF YOURS.
Douglas - Keep your mouth shut, YOU’VE GOT YOUR REMATCH. If you beat me, I lose my title, but if I beat you, what do you lose? If I beat you, YOU WALK AWAY FROM FORTUNE FOREVER.
AJ - That’s never gonna happen! FORGET IT!
Eric - As a matter of fact, you will face Doug Williams at Genesis, and if you don’t beat him and bring the TV Title back to me, THERE WILL NO LONGER BE A SPOT FOR YOU IN FORTUNE, IMMORTAL, OR ANYWHERE ELSE!
Taz - Eric hands AJ a big BAH HUMBUG!
Tenay - We’ll talk with Mr. Anderson from his home in Green Bay, Wisconsin. WISCONSIN!
Tenay - Are you cleared?
Ken - I’m cleared to return at Genesis.
Tenay - And you have the proper paperwork? You can bring it to the Impact Zone next week, right?
Ken - WHAT!? I TRY TO BE NICE…(storms off)
Tenay - We’re…JUST TRYING TO DO OUR JOBS!
Taz - There’s a good chance James Storm had some beer in his eggnog today.
Tenay - Ya think?
Taz - Championships bring power - and that’s what Bischoff wants. All the belts by the Genesis PPV.
Taz - RVD will kick the taste out yo mouth.
Tenay - WATCH RVD ROLL!
Taz - ROLLING THUNDER, BABY!
Taz - SICK SPRINGBOARD DDT BY SABIN!
Taz - Vintage, classic, typical stuff from the Guns!
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[quote name='davo1224']From what I've heard, Kaval is a twat. Doesn't surprise me.[/QUOTE]
how so?
I think I mentioned this in the other thread, but I don't see Low Ki as someone who wants to be in the WWE "Enhancement Talent" role for this career. I would be shocked if he were actually shitcanned unwillingly; the much more likely story is that Kaval pulled a "Spanky" with WWE (i.e., he said "I want to have wrestling matches and contribute to your business significantly; you're not letting me do that in my current role. So let's break up, and when you're ready to do something with me, give me a call.").
I don't say that for any reason other than the just-before-Christmas release. WWE is a crass organization that, like a fraternity, seems to relish in offending people more than it would delight in earning their respect - but I don't think they'd do someone like that unless it was mutual.
In short, I think this is much closer to a literal Christmas gift for Low Ki than some think.
how so?
I think I mentioned this in the other thread, but I don't see Low Ki as someone who wants to be in the WWE "Enhancement Talent" role for this career. I would be shocked if he were actually shitcanned unwillingly; the much more likely story is that Kaval pulled a "Spanky" with WWE (i.e., he said "I want to have wrestling matches and contribute to your business significantly; you're not letting me do that in my current role. So let's break up, and when you're ready to do something with me, give me a call.").
I don't say that for any reason other than the just-before-Christmas release. WWE is a crass organization that, like a fraternity, seems to relish in offending people more than it would delight in earning their respect - but I don't think they'd do someone like that unless it was mutual.
In short, I think this is much closer to a literal Christmas gift for Low Ki than some think.
I'd love to see Low Ki help ROH's roster or further expand the Dragon Gate USA roster. DGUSA is due for a banner year, and while it may not be 2011, it'll be soon enough.
Yes, regardless of the circumstances, the timing of the anouncement of Ki's release is just absurdly poor.
And Jeremy Borash is a classy guy. Hopefully, we won't see him begging WWE for a job, in a year, when TNA crowns Miley Cyrus as their World Heavyweight champion, and subsequently folds into the abyss.
Edit: Myke, Ki does indeed seem like someone who takes great pride in their work. I imagine, for some people, playing the Enhancement talent role is hell, and far from worth the money.
Unlike these former pro sports athletes, models, aspiring models, aspiring actresses, and other phony people who try a hand at pro wrestling to use it as a platform for other mediums, there are some people, like Low Ki, who chose pro wrestling because they love it.
Yes, regardless of the circumstances, the timing of the anouncement of Ki's release is just absurdly poor.
And Jeremy Borash is a classy guy. Hopefully, we won't see him begging WWE for a job, in a year, when TNA crowns Miley Cyrus as their World Heavyweight champion, and subsequently folds into the abyss.
Edit: Myke, Ki does indeed seem like someone who takes great pride in their work. I imagine, for some people, playing the Enhancement talent role is hell, and far from worth the money.
Unlike these former pro sports athletes, models, aspiring models, aspiring actresses, and other phony people who try a hand at pro wrestling to use it as a platform for other mediums, there are some people, like Low Ki, who chose pro wrestling because they love it.
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Oh. Hmm.
I know in the past I'd read that he takes himself a bit too seriously as a pro wrestler. I don't know much more than that. If he demands on, say, getting his spots in, or gets paranoid that wrestlers don't let him get enough offense in a match, then that's a bit goofy. But if he views a wrestling match as a work of art, or at least as a craft that requires some forethought, some planning, and some respect for the tools needed to put that craft together, then good for him.
I certainly view wrestling in the latter way. I enjoyed Cena/Ziggler on SD this week because it was well crafted. I knew the outcome, I didn't give a flying about the "vickie = fattie" jokes that went into it. Everything seemed contrived, but they put on a great match, and Ziggler puts himself into his matches in a way that makes you believe that he really gives a damn about putting on a good match, and that his character wants to win.
As for Low Ki, maybe he wanted too much to quick. He feels like he's paid his dues by being one of the hottest indy wrestlers for more than the last decade; he didn't need to spend time in developmental, or he didn't need to be repackaged with a new name and outfit. He looks around and see that his dues and his accolades didn't mean shit in the WWE Universe™. He was going to be a job boy, just like everyone else who starts off there. And I suppose there's some merit to that, some respect to that. Treating everyone equally has some novel basis.
But when people aren't equal, it can crush the spirit of the guys who really busted theiring asses to get there, you know? Like "the things I do don't matter, and won't matter - so it." Raven was panned for being lazy as shit when he wasn't being pushed in his WWF days. But you know what? Good for him, I say. If you got nothin' for me, I got nothin' for you. That makes perfect sense.
Now, a reasonable person can and should say "well, he should have known better by going to WWE." And I agree with that. McMahon has pushed and immeidately buried damn near everyone who walks in the door these days. He's testing the loyalty of his guys. That makes sense, as he doesn't want to push someone to the moon and then have them walk out on him, like Lesnar or Lashley. But it's paranoid and a corrosive attitude to company morale to treat everyone that way, to send everyone through that ritual. Low Ki's traveled around the world his whole life, and continues to do that for pro wrestling. He knows the rigorous schedule, so there's nothing to be gained by hazing him the WWE Corporate way. It's disrespectful, frankly. Think if you were in Low Ki's shoes, and you got signed by WWE; they took everything he had and put it in the trash. He started in developmental just like every other schmuck off the street - he was no better than Skip Sheffield, David Otunga, or any other muscle head who can't wrestle for shit.
Then they put him on national tv as being equal to these same nobodies. Low Ki was a nobody, too. No talk of his extensive background or history, no talk of his ring prowess or experience. Now, Low Ki should know better (WWE doesn't acknowledge the history or background of damn near anyone who walks in the door there). He absolutely should. But I can really empathize with the lack of respect he was given from the day he signed his contract, and the career path they put him on.
I know in the past I'd read that he takes himself a bit too seriously as a pro wrestler. I don't know much more than that. If he demands on, say, getting his spots in, or gets paranoid that wrestlers don't let him get enough offense in a match, then that's a bit goofy. But if he views a wrestling match as a work of art, or at least as a craft that requires some forethought, some planning, and some respect for the tools needed to put that craft together, then good for him.
I certainly view wrestling in the latter way. I enjoyed Cena/Ziggler on SD this week because it was well crafted. I knew the outcome, I didn't give a flying
about the "vickie = fattie" jokes that went into it. Everything seemed contrived, but they put on a great match, and Ziggler puts himself into his matches in a way that makes you believe that he really gives a damn about putting on a good match, and that his character wants to win.As for Low Ki, maybe he wanted too much to quick. He feels like he's paid his dues by being one of the hottest indy wrestlers for more than the last decade; he didn't need to spend time in developmental, or he didn't need to be repackaged with a new name and outfit. He looks around and see that his dues and his accolades didn't mean shit in the WWE Universe™. He was going to be a job boy, just like everyone else who starts off there. And I suppose there's some merit to that, some respect to that. Treating everyone equally has some novel basis.
But when people aren't equal, it can crush the spirit of the guys who really busted their
ing asses to get there, you know? Like "the things I do don't matter, and won't matter - so it." Raven was panned for being lazy as shit when he wasn't being pushed in his WWF days. But you know what? Good for him, I say. If you got nothin' for me, I got nothin' for you. That makes perfect sense.Now, a reasonable person can and should say "well, he should have known better by going to WWE." And I agree with that. McMahon has pushed and immeidately buried damn near everyone who walks in the door these days. He's testing the loyalty of his guys. That makes sense, as he doesn't want to push someone to the moon and then have them walk out on him, like Lesnar or Lashley. But it's paranoid and a corrosive attitude to company morale to treat everyone that way, to send everyone through that ritual. Low Ki's traveled around the world his whole life, and continues to do that for pro wrestling. He knows the rigorous schedule, so there's nothing to be gained by hazing him the WWE Corporate way. It's disrespectful, frankly. Think if you were in Low Ki's shoes, and you got signed by WWE; they took everything he had and put it in the trash. He started in developmental just like every other schmuck off the street - he was no better than Skip Sheffield, David Otunga, or any other muscle head who can't wrestle for shit.
Then they put him on national tv as being equal to these same nobodies. Low Ki was a nobody, too. No talk of his extensive background or history, no talk of his ring prowess or experience. Now, Low Ki should know better (WWE doesn't acknowledge the history or background of damn near anyone who walks in the door there). He absolutely should. But I can really empathize with the lack of respect he was given from the day he signed his contract, and the career path they put him on.
I think that about sums it up. However, I'm going to side with "he should have known better". Except for Ric Flair or wrestling with Stu Hart, they've never acknowledged someone's outside accomplishments. That even applied to Dusty Rhodes and Booker T, who got clowned all the time. Even Chris Jericho who get a mega debut still had to feud with Road Dogg, X-Pac, and Chyna.
I can see his gripe when you look at how they introduced him versus say Alberto Del Rio.
Del Rio got months of hype videos, a ring announcer, pyro, and a new Bentley or Rolls every week to drive 10 feet to the ring (which can't be cheap). He almost immediately gets put into feuds with the likes of Christian and Rey Mysterio.
Kaval got to be on the reality show where he was portrayed as an equal to Eli Cottonwood and Lucky Cannon. He somehow wins the show despite two second generation stars and a guy who has the WWE look and can talk (Riley) being in the group.
Then they do the bit where he survives 5 minutes with Big Show to get on the Smackdown team...then they immediately job him to Tyler Reks - who has been on maybe 4 episodes of Smackdown since then.
He also lost a match to Chavo Guerrero, who has spent the better part of two years losing to a midget - something he now does dressed as an eagle. Still higher up on the card than Kaval.
Del Rio got months of hype videos, a ring announcer, pyro, and a new Bentley or Rolls every week to drive 10 feet to the ring (which can't be cheap). He almost immediately gets put into feuds with the likes of Christian and Rey Mysterio.
Kaval got to be on the reality show where he was portrayed as an equal to Eli Cottonwood and Lucky Cannon. He somehow wins the show despite two second generation stars and a guy who has the WWE look and can talk (Riley) being in the group.
Then they do the bit where he survives 5 minutes with Big Show to get on the Smackdown team...then they immediately job him to Tyler Reks - who has been on maybe 4 episodes of Smackdown since then.
He also lost a match to Chavo Guerrero, who has spent the better part of two years losing to a midget - something he now does dressed as an eagle. Still higher up on the card than Kaval.
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It really, really sucks for Kaval, but if he does take that much pride in his work, then I suppose he's better off now.
[quote name='neocisco']You took my Christmas thread, Beefy![/QUOTE]DAMMIT. I knew I forgot someone called it. #-o
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[quote name='neocisco']You took my Christmas thread, Beefy![/QUOTE]DAMMIT. I knew I forgot someone called it. #-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISFOJ-jq-q4
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I don't ever see Low Ki as a maineventer, but he was treated right in the X-Division in TNA. I think he probably went in saw how robotic and fake WWE is and was instantly turned off. Every wrestler that comes up from their farm league is all taught to do the same robotic enterances, promos and wrestling matches. It blows my mind when I see people talking about WWE nonstop and then watch ROH or DGATE and act like it's one in the same. TNA is not great by any means, but when you watch a match or promo you can tell the wrestlers get to use their input. It's not Double A or Steamboat picking the spots.
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http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/More_On_Kaval_s_Release_WWE_s_Approach_To_Wantaway_Talent.html
Very interesting to see that WWE doesn't even think TNA is serious competition anymore.
Very interesting to see that WWE doesn't even think TNA is serious competition anymore.
[quote name='cdubb1605']http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/More_On_Kaval_s_Release_WWE_s_Approach_To_Wantaway_Talent.html
Very interesting to see that WWE doesn't even think TNA is serious competition anymore.[/QUOTE]
Interesting, but not surprising in the least.
Very interesting to see that WWE doesn't even think TNA is serious competition anymore.[/QUOTE]
Interesting, but not surprising in the least.
Who could WWE release that could conceivably hurt them by signing to TNA? No one, really. I'm eliminating Cena, Punk and some long-time vets since there is no realistic way WWE would ever let them go (or they would want to). I'm thinking more along the lines of midcarders and one-time world champs. Swagger? Kofi? Morrison? These guys (and others) wouldn't add anything truly substantial to TNA. WWE may not see TNA as serious competition at this time but the people they would be willing to release aren't gamechangers so it's a moot point really.
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