Yeah they call that astroturfing. Samsung admitted to doing it against HTC.I want a PR job trolling forums
Let's be honest, would that not be pretty epic? "Your mission, should you choose to accept it.... troll various gaming forums defending our product, and pointing toward flaws of our competitions product. Your pay will be $7.25 a hour to sit on your ass and read forums.... click yes or no, this email will self destruct in 30 seconds."
na it just makes me sic what people do and people wonder why companys like sony,ms,apple, do what they do. these big companys know suckers in this world when they hear things they want to hear they get all giddy and what not. Lets be honest if sony did what ms did at start with ps4 it would have been the "cool" thing to bash sony and love on ms.
Yeah you should practice what you preach. No point for you to bring your education background up. You only brought it up to try and show superiority over other posters, but that was exposed when you thought a GDDR and DDR is the same thing.
Wow I missed that info. I expected it but it really sucks. I would have bought 2 PS4s, now I guess I'm just getting one. Damn.The "20 things you do not know about PS4" reveals more information. The 2 disc install is being done away with, in favor of a 1 disc offline install, and not 2.
The online is if Player A is logged into Console A, he can play his digital titles. If Player B uses Player A's login to log into Console B, he cannot play his titles, as Player A is playing them. (One console, one login)
For more info: http://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/1i5sd7/its_official_the_ps4_allows_for_only_one_system/
Why we are discussing this here is beyond me, but hey, there's your information
You and WV just spout so much bs it's ridiculous. Ashane is imo pretty clearly supporting the Xbox and maybe he's just a fanboy I don't know, but he still uses his brain when posting and posts facts and actual arguments for the most part.
I replied to a few of your comments but I think thats when the arguing started and no one saw my post lol
Hearing that make me really think what the hell is MS thinking. They could sell the console for cheaper than the PS4 without the Kinect? Just release a non-Kinect version idiots. If they did that I think they would be guaranteed to win the next console war. If this is true and it would be cheaper I honestly think it'll just be a matter of time before they release the non-Kinect version.
Exactly. The only reason WV and I can declare the Xbox One the best is because we are so much better than everyone else. We are supreme beings!
Happens every time new consoles come out. People try to justify their purchases/and/or don't have enough money to buy (or in their minds, perhaps waste) money on new systems. Honestly, even $900 isn't a lot of money to purchase two new systems at launch when you consider inflation over the years and how much money people can dump into a solid PC. My groceries end up being over $220 every two weeks. Just live off that ramen for awhile!
The X1 isn't the same "ecosystem" you're in. When people talk about ecosystems they refer to things like Android market purchases or iTunes purchases where you can buy a new device and use apps purchased on the previous device on it. With X1 the ecosystem isn't moving with the new console. It has an entirely new ecosystem.
Inflation has nothing to do with current prices. Electronics get cheaper and better over time, especially since they're being made by cheap Chinese labor. It's the same reason a board game you got for Christmas in 1985 cost $19.99 and despite inflation now costs 11.99. Same thing with clothing...
So I assume this would include no difference in price either. Bummer for those wanting to go all digital thinking that it would save them money.
Ummmm, OK. I mean, I don't disagree with you, but I'm not sure how my post from 227 pages ago has anything to do with the point you're making. It sounds like you're trying to correct an inappropriate use of the word "ecosystem" from me, but I didn't use the word in the post you quoted, and I wasn't talking about the Xbox ecosystem at all.
No mention of price was even given, nor was the quote in reference to anything about the actual product. Simply add on DLC.
Exactly. 360 was my main console but I'm switching to PS4 for a host of reasons that make it a better fit for my gaming interests and values.
Not reaching at all. I said it was an assumption, and it was based upon the tweet that there would not be "any" difference. That's all.No mention of price was even given, nor was the quote in reference to anything about the actual product. Simply add on DLC.
Reaching pretty far in my opinion
However, since retail still factors into the equation, you would not see day 1 cheaper titles anyway. It was not until PC games got out of retail did we start to see fluctuation in day 1 prices, due to most manufactures not having to deal with CD, Box, Manual, Shipping, etc etc.
Of course, how fast we forget that Microsoft has had very good summer sales these past two years, plus a completely blockbuster black friday sale that beat out any other retailer for the entire year. Ahh.. memories... they flow like fish in the water.
lol i had no clue electronics field has tons of writing involved. The only classes i ever write things in is l.A classes .
Less people take you seriously if you type like you are an e-thug or illiterate, cause you look like you don't care enough to try to get your point across/just look stupid. Just saying, you know, maybe you should work on that.
There's also tons and tons of answered questions here:I think those implying that there wont be a difference in multi-platform games are crazy. With the systems both being easy to develop for this time and having hardware so similar it would be a complete sign of negligence to not have the ps4 version running or looking better.
The PS4 design is just better for graphics, plain and simple.
The Xbox 1 developer on reddit even admitted it yesterday.
"The facts are on paper, the PS4 has better specs and the most you can debate is by how much. What I can tell you is I have played Forza, Killer instinct, and Ryse on the Xbox One. They look as good as the games I play on a high end PC. Ryse reminded me of darksiders II."
For those implying dd3 vs gddr 5 doesnt make a difference here it is in AMD's own words.
http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gddr5/Pages/gddr5.aspx#2
also for real world comparisons. AMD actually released some DDR3 and GDDR5 versions of its own cards
Here are the results of its 2GB DDR3 AMD 7750 vs 1GB GDDR5
http://www.hardware.fr/focus/76/amd-radeon-hd-7750-ddr3-test-cape-verde-etouffe.html
as you can tell the extra bandwidth provided by GDDR5 results in about an average of 30% more frames. Fact is latency is a non-factor in graphics performance, at least in relation to bandwidth.
Add this to the fact, that the PS4 gpu also easily outperforms the xbox 1 gpu, by about another 30-35% on average(and thats with giving a huge benefit to xbox gpu and a slight downgrade to the ps4 gpu in the comparison)
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-radeon-hd-7790-review
BOTH ARE AMD APU's except one has GDDR 5, 18 compute units vs. 12, 32 ROPs vs. 16, really its no contest.
Like Ive said before the PS4 version should always either run at a much higher frame rate/resolution or just plain look better if the developer chooses to lock both titles at a set framerate. And for those implying that developers will just go for the lowest common denominator, and make them the same, well theyre just ignoring all video game past. Fact is games dont exist in a bubble. Games have to compete with other games as well as first party. All it takes is that first one game to push the ps4 hardware and all it's competitors have to follow suite or else be left in the dust.
Now Im not implying the XB1 is another Wii U. That's far from the case. All im saying is that while both will be a major leap visually over what we have on the console market at the moment, the PS4 will go just a bit further visually, due to being close to 50% more powerful graphically.
Yet of course, it still all comes down to which system's library/culture interest you the most.
But I can't wait to hear how development tools are going to overcome all these hardware limitations.
lol
yep im a xbox fanboy but have decided to get both systems at launch
So what's that official CPU speed again? Latency is a non-factor here. Bandwidth is the real key. Even with the semi-confirmed rumor of an upclock by MS, they're still on the losing side of the numbers. There's a reason MS is reacting to Sony by doing this if true. Not to mention total CUs.
Negligence isn't the only reason. Game industry politics is the only real and more likely reason any multi-platform games shouldn't look and/or perform better.
There's a reason they are not publishing certain numbers... anyone who thinks these consoles cannot be modified 3 months before release are kidding themselves
We all know about the 360 by now...Yep it's a APU.... which is basically combing both CPU+GPU. (You know that, just explaining for those that do not :X) That specific APU should start appearing in laptop's as well, at a later date (Codename Kabini).
ps3 first party games blew 360 first party games out of the water no debate in that but i will say some 360 only games looked pretty dang good like gears of war 3
This just in, HTZ works Eurogamer!
Credit actually goes to Timbo.This just in, HTZ works Eurogamer!
Kidding.... I say that because just today, EG released a DigitalFoundry article that basically says that very same thing
console game absolutely do run at higher frame rates. Have you never read a DF article? Even if games sync to 30 or 60, then tend to drop frames all the time. Having the better gpu and more bandwidth means the ps4 version will run consistently smoother at a higher resolution. We saw this again this generation how many games were 640p, or how many games that were 1080 were actually 1280x1080 instead of 1920x1080? It happened all the time, ps3 and 360 multiplates shipped at different resolutions all the time. Same thing with AA, one version either had it or didnt, or they used different methods.
