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Daily Deal:
Please check the Steam homepage.

Weeklong Deals:
Steam usually has week-long deals that change on Mondays at 6PM UTC. They mostly feature indie games, and may not run every week.

Sale summary lists:

Key:
⤷ indicates DLC, — specifies part of a pack, + shows alternative versions, ⚠ highlights things worth knowing, ♫ is obvious, and ... denotes a multi-pack.

Holiday Sale 2013 | 19/12/13 through 3/1/14:
Days 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10-12, 13-14.

Spring/Autumn Sale 2013 | 27/11/13 through 3/12/13:
All days.

Steam deals on other stores: (Related threads on CAG.)

Indie* bundle threads: (*Not always indie, nor always a bundle.)

Free stuff:
There are quite a few free games (mostly Free to Play) and mods available via the Steam platform, a comprehensive list of which can be found in this thread on the SPUF.
(NOTE: free games are not permanently attached to your Steam account like actual purchases would be. You'll need to manually download a game again from the website if you uninstall it.)

Past Steam Deals Threads:

 
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I'm streaming right now on my channel, Two World II Co-op as well as giving away copies of the game and others.

Check it out if you got time: http://twitch.tv/Carlmundo

 
It here! My Steam Machine. The wooden box that it came in is awesome but FedEx beat it up in its delivery. First impressions, heavier than I expected but seems solid. Controller could definitely use some work. Feels cheap and playing Super Meat Boy with it doesn't feel as natural as a 360 controller or even mouse & keyboard. 

Forgot to check the CPU when I opened it but got a GTX 780.

 
I want PixelJunk, already have Fester Mudd in like two other bundles... I've also had Legend of Fae on my sights for a while.

But no. Those bastards had to add THIS FRIGGIN AWESOME ALBUM TO THE BUNDLE.

I can't believe I'm paying seven bucks for all this...
I think it's usually overlooked because of the higher tier, but IR sometimes bundles in some really great music. I still listen to this one a lot.

 
jshackles, I LOVE the new insta-currency convert view in ES.
Thanks. Another awesome developer contributed most of the code though. :wave: Which is awesome. It means cool features like this can be added even when I don't have as much time as I'd like to dedicate to them.

 
Have you tried AAAAAAAAAA for the Awesome with Oculus Rift? It's probably one of my favorite games on Steam to play with Rift support, with ETS2 and Surgeon Sim 2013 as runners up.
It's so funny that you ask this because I passed on it over the summer (before I had my Rift), listening to people calling it "bundle fodder". But since receiving my Rift, I've been kicking myself for not buying it. Now today...it's in the new Humble Bundle, lol. Definitely looking forward to playing it and making my family play it over Christmas. :)

And as grateful as I am that this bundle includes AAAAAA for the Awesome...it's a little lame that Little Inferno is in this one...which I got from Humble themselves a few months ago. Repeats from other bundles aren't really surprising, but when you rehash your own bundles, that starts to sting a little. I guess as long as they maintain a reasonable method for gifting, that's probably as much as we can expect. Like I've been saying, repeats are going to happen more and more frequently.

 
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And as grateful as I am that this bundle includes AAAAAA for the Awesome...it's a little lame that Little Inferno is in this one...which I got from Humble themselves a few months ago. Repeats from other bundles aren't really surprising, but when you rehash your own bundles, that starts to sting a little. I guess as long as they maintain a reasonable method for gifting, that's probably as much as we can expect. Like I've been saying, repeats are going to happen more and more frequently.

The difference here is that you get the Android version, which I don't believe was offered the last time they had it.

Satazius Desura Key:
C859B-B393D-CDD5F-15E05
C8646-6AF7C-1D950-38BB0

Cherry Tree High Comedy Club Desura Key:
6C265-1EE33-6DC1E-506C9
6C267-8BBD2-017B1-D31A9
6C271-A207A-E904D-769F7
I grabbed the remaining Desura key for each of these two, thanks!

 
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I know it's way too soon, but voken, with what you've seen. Is the steam box worth that theoretical price of $1500-ish. Because right now it's just looking like a small form factor PC that someone else could build on their own (except for the controller).

I assume the only games it supports are the ones confirmed to work with Linux on steam?

The controller looks really interesting. I think I would like it because I actually used to play games with a trackball. 

Btw, that eclipse looking light in the front looks incredibley bright. Almost as if it was a real eclipse.

 
The difference here is that you get the Android version, which I don't believe was offered the last time they had it.
I suppose that's true. I guess that could be fun while I'm on the crapper, lol.

"Why have you been in there so long?"

"I have Little Inferno."

"You know we have Pepto-Bismol..."

 
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Whoa, where did they say $1,500? I can tell you right now that would be a total rip off.
Well, some people looked at the parts of the steam box and went to pc part picker and added it all up. It totaled to around $1500. Again this is an estimate and maybe, somehow the actual price could be much lower. But I'd say it's safe to assume these things would go for over a $1000.

edit: These are basically small form factor pcs we're looking at. I wouldn't classify the Steambox as a console.

Link to the price theory (2 months old):

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/how-much-will-a-steam-box-cost-you

About $500 ish for the lower end, and up to $1500 for the higher end.

 
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I thought I had read the ibuypower ones will be $500… of course those will probably have 270x in them.  But, as you note, it doesn't make much sense to sell the higher end ones as anyone willing to drop over $1,000 can easily build/have someone else build a proper PC for that amount.

 
Well, some people looked at the parts of the steam box and went to pc part picker and added it all up. It totaled to around $1500. Again this is an estimate and maybe, somehow the actual price could be much lower. But I'd say it's safe to assume these things would go for over a $1000.
But you're not accounting for the discount Valve is going to get for buying all these parts in bulk. If Valve puts this thing out at over $1,000...it will fail horribly. They have to market it to people who are incapable of building their own PC...but yet are still open to having a gaming PC in their living room. If it's much higher than a Xbox One or PS4, who is going to buy it? Sure, you and I know the value of the parts inside...but you and I could order those parts and build our own PC as well. Valve has to do something to convince people that they want one of these...even if it means selling them at a loss. Otherwise, it's a waste of time.

 
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The rest of the game is a pixel hunt
To be fair, To The Moon doesn't have any pixel hunting, the term pixel hunt meaning that you are panning a mouse cursor around trying to find a fraction of an image to click to accomplish something, used almost exclusively as a negative term. You're instead walking your character around to interact with objects laid out on a grid. There's no precision or maddening overlooking involved. For the most part, it's "Oh hey, the rabbit's here, that's got to be one," in between dialog sequences.

I get that it's not for everyone, but as someone who uses RPG Maker, I found it an interesting use of the limited tools available. I was expecting a story that tugs at the heartstrings with good music, both things I'd heard others say about it, and it delivered. Helps that I played it together with my wife. FOREVER ALONE memesters need not apply when it comes to this game. ;)

 
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Well, yeah, I call a lot of things platformers. I'd refer to both of these as puzzle-platformers, if it makes you feel better.

Well, I have to disagree with you here: the "digital books" that you're citing here (they also have one for Portal 2 and ME 3) are sort-of multimedia doodads with pictures and video clips and audio and other such nonsense. This is an actual, honest-to-deity-of-your-preference ebooks in mobi, pdf, and epub formats.
I guess for me I fail to see the difference. They're books and they're video game related and listed as basically DLC for the video games.

I typically leave "pulling things out of the hole beneath my tail" to you.
Storing food up your asshole cannot be healthy for you.

 
But you're not accounting for the discount Valve is going to get for buying all these parts in bulk. If Valve puts this thing out at over $1,000...it will fail horribly. They have to market it to people who are incapable of building their own PC...but yet are still open to having a gaming PC in their living room. If it's much higher than a Xbox One or PS4, who is going to buy it? Sure, you and I know the value of the parts inside...but you and I could order those parts and build our own PC as well. Valve has to do something to convince people that they want one of these...even if it means selling them at a loss. Otherwise, it's a waste of time.
Valve? Valve will not sell any steam boxes. Like, at all.(they only made some for beta testing. There is not any Valve-made steamboxes planned for release) Steam Boxes will be made by every manufacturer that wishes to do so, but not a single one will do it at a cost because they dont get any money from games sales. Every single steambox will be more expensive than buying and building your own PC.

 
Definitely too soon to judge the steam box especially the controller since the Beta controller do NOT have the touchscreen and is NOT wireless as the controller will have the final product. Further more, I doubt this will be price at +$1500 (unless you opt for the SteamBox with the GTX Titan). I can tell you that the GTX 780 alone on Newegg is ~$500 but that is retail price and it is known that console makers (like Microsoft with the 1st Xbox) typically take huge loss with the console box and make up with a large user base and software sales.

I build PCs myself and opening the SteamBox I can tell you that unless you are a professional PC builder or have a lot of experience building small form factor PCs, it difficult build something of equivant size without any sacrifices to hardware. Everything is very tightly packed together and while its not small (maybe the same size as a XBOX One?) its definitely smaller with a lot power than most PCs (I have a full tower PC).

We don't know the Price yet, but if Valve takes a loss and maybe price this at ~$500 (doubtful but not impossible). I would definite consider it and just format it to a Windows PC.

EDIT:

In essence, the Steam Box seems better and more useful than a stupid Ouya. Consider adding Windows to the box as it only supports Linux (which I was surprised at how many game that I own have Linuz support)

I know it's way too soon, but voken, with what you've seen. Is the steam box worth that theoretical price of $1500-ish. Because right now it's just looking like a small form factor PC that someone else could build on their own (except for the controller).

I assume the only games it supports are the ones confirmed to work with Linux on steam?

The controller looks really interesting. I think I would like it because I actually used to play games with a trackball.

Btw, that eclipse looking light in the front looks incredibley bright. Almost as if it was a real eclipse.
 
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I guess for me I fail to see the difference. They're books and they're video game related and listed as basically DLC for the video games.
Well, not to beat a dead horse too much (at least it's dead so the bruises won't show), but it's the difference between this:

Rn2P4qm.png

and this:

D0XK5J1.png

That guy just took the text out of these "books" and put them for sale as mobis on Amazon. This is strictly a thing with written words, and, as such, appears to be unprecedented in Steam's history as a thing they're offering for sale and not as an extra goody thing that gets downloaded to the relevant folder when you buy a game.

EDIT: You're right about this showing up as Magicka DLC, which means you have to own Magicka to buy it, but given the nature of this product that's really weird. Of course, there are probably people living in the frozen tundra of the Arctic with no internet access who own Magicka.

 
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Well, not to beat a dead horse too much (at least it's dead so the bruises won't show), but it's the difference between this:

Rn2P4qm.png

and this:

D0XK5J1.png

That guy just took the text out of these "books" and put them for sale as mobis on Amazon. This is strictly a thing with written words, and, as such, appears to be unprecedented in Steam's history as a thing they're offering for sale and not as an extra goody thing that gets downloaded to the relevant folder when you buy a game.

I guess the way I see it is:

Digital Book - Flashy nice version of a book.

eBook - Plainer version of a book.

Or to put it in other words:

Steam started selling Bacon Cheeseburgers months ago.

And today, they are selling Cheeseburgers.

They just took out the bacon.

 
Given how easy it is to exploit Steam achievements, I can see this being abused quickly.
Yep, people will be all over this with SAM.

I guess the way I see it is:

Digital Book - Flashy nice version of a book.

eBook - Plainer version of a book.

Or to put it in other words:

Steam started selling Bacon Cheeseburgers months ago.

And today, they are selling Cheeseburgers.

They just took out the bacon.
Eh, agree to disagree, then. Just don't tell sunasun Steam has removed bacon from his inventory.

 
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Definitely too soon to judge the steam box especially the controller since the Beta controller do NOT have the touchscreen and is NOT wireless as the controller will have the final product. Further more, I doubt this will be price at +$1500 (unless you opt for the SteamBox with the GTX Titan). I can tell you that the GTX 780 alone on Newegg is ~$500 but that is retail price and it is known that console makers (like Microsoft with the 1st Xbox) typically take huge loss with the console box and make up with a large user base and software sales.

I build PCs myself and opening the SteamBox I can tell you that unless you are a professional PC builder or have a lot of experience building small form factor PCs, it difficult build something of equivant size without any sacrifices to hardware. Everything is very tightly packed together and while its not small (maybe the same size as a XBOX One?) its definitely smaller with a lot power than most PCs (I have a full tower PC).

We don't know the Price yet, but if Valve takes a loss and maybe price this at ~$500 (doubtful but not impossible). I would definite consider it and just format it to a Windows PC.

EDIT:

In essence, the Steam Box seems better and more useful than a stupid Ouya. Consider adding Windows to the box as it only supports Linux (which I was surprised at how many game that I own have Linuz support)
As I said up there: Valve is not working on ANY commercial models of the Steam Box at all. They will not take a loss because they are simply not making it at all. Steam Boxes will be made by other manufacturers, and they will have to make a profit on it because they will not receive a single cent from game sales.

 
Valve? Valve will not sell any steam boxes. Like, at all.(they only made some for beta testing. There is not any Valve-made steamboxes planned for release) Steam Boxes will be made by every manufacturer that wishes to do so, but not a single one will do it at a cost because they dont get any money from games sales. Every single steambox will be more expensive than buying and building your own PC.
Oh, wow. I didn't realize Valve was just going to shovel this off to system manufacturers as a "good idea". How is this anything more than a special edition PC then? (other than the controller). The allure is just supposed to be having the Steam name on it? What a waste. If this isn't aimed at console gamers, it's mostly pointless. People already gaming on PC will have no use for it.
 
Yep, people will be all over this with SAM.

Eh, agree to disagree, then. Just don't tell sunasun Steam has removed bacon from his inventory.
It's okay, Dr. Who agrees with my interpretation.

As I said up there: Valve is not working on ANY commercial models of the Steam Box at all. They will not take a loss because they are simply not making it at all. Steam Boxes will be made by other manufacturers, and they will have to make a profit on it because they will not receive a single cent from game sales.

Oh, wow. I didn't realize Valve was just going to shovel this off to system manufacturers as a "good idea". How is this anything more than a special edition PC then? (other than the controller). The allure is just supposed to be having the Steam name on it? What a waste. If this isn't aimed at console gamers, it's mostly pointless. People already gaming on PC will have no use for it.
I thought it was established these are just small computers. The only draw for a dedicated PC user is the things they've been doing with SteamOS, Big Picture Mode, Family Mode, etc. and the controller.

This is really just an attempt to make it easier/dummy proof for the uninformed, average, casual gamer to get into PC gaming.

 
As I said up there: Valve is not working on ANY commercial models of the Steam Box at all. They will not take a loss because they are simply not making it at all. Steam Boxes will be made by other manufacturers, and they will have to make a profit on it because they will not receive a single cent from game sales.
That doesn't seem right but I'm pretty sure they are making Steam controllers and will have a Valve version of Steam Box. Otherwise there is no point to the beta as the the SteamOS is widely available and it would be vastly more cost-effiecient to just to send beta testers the controller only.

They could just ask beta testers to install the OS on our Home PCs, plug in the controller, and get feedback. If what you are saying is true (which I'm finding very doubtful), there is NO POINT in sending me a free +$500 machine.

BTW, Steam Boxes "can" be made by other manufacturers but the point is that there will probably be a Valve Steam machine with specs (there are like 4 different machines with different hardware) similar to the beta

 
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This is really just an attempt to make it easier/dummy proof for the uninformed, average, casual gamer to get into PC gaming.
Yep. Increasingly over the last couple of years I see people who have used consoles all of their lives ask for help building or buying their first gaming PC. Soon you can just say "buy this Steam Machine" rather than trying to walk them through a build from ibuypower or what may be a big overwhelming list of things to buy.

 
Yep. Increasingly over the last couple of years I see people who have used consoles all of their lives ask for help building or buying their first gaming PC. Soon you can just say "buy this Steam Machine" rather than trying to walk them through a build from ibuypower or what may be a big overwhelming list of things to buy.
Also, Gaben has been increasing critical of Microsoft, Windows 8, and the Microsoft Store included in Windows 8 and probably want more PC gamers (and developers) to shift towards linux.

Anyway, more competition is a GOOD thing and more PC gamers is good.

 
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That doesn't seem right but I'm pretty sure they are making Steam controllers and will have a Valve version of Steam Box. Otherwise there is no point to the beta as the the SteamOS is widely available and it would be vastly more cost-effiecient to just to send beta testers the controller only.

They could just ask beta testers to install the OS on our Home PCs, plug in the controller, and get feedback. If what you are saying is true (which I'm finding very doubtful), there is NO POINT in sending me a free+$500 machine.
Installing Steam OS is not exactly easy or for the more casual audiences. It even erases everything you have on your disc. They made the SteamBoxs beta models just so they could see how the OS will be doing on your average, comercially-available steambox. They need to be sure they streamline and optimize for the different configurations available, and to make sure you can use it to the full extent with just the controller.

Again, there isnt any plans for a commercially available steambox from Valve, and I doubt there will ever be. It would be a waste of money when you have a crapload of manufacturers willing to do that for you.

 
Oh, wow. I didn't realize Valve was just going to shovel this off to system manufacturers as a "good idea". How is this anything more than a special edition PC then? (other than the controller). The allure is just supposed to be having the Steam name on it? What a waste. If this isn't aimed at console gamers, it's mostly pointless. People already gaming on PC will have no use for it.
Like I said a few pages back, there is nothing special about a Steam machine - in fact, *that* is the whole point: open hardware with an open operating system (Linux). You can, right now, install SteamOS on that spare PC you have and, violalala, it's a Steam machine! Just like with Windows, the better hardware you have in the PC, the better your games will run. Put a "Steam" sticker on the side if it'll make it feel more authentic.

Given the state of Linux support for the billions of hardware configurations out there, unless you know what you are doing with Linux and know how to build PCs from parts, you will want to buy "certified" Steam machines from vendors. It won't matter where you buy it from: it'll still just be a PC with commodity parts. Some will look nicer, or be smaller, or whatever, but still PCs in the end.

The one special thing about it (which personally I'm not interested in) is the controller which I very much expect will be sold separately and will allow PC games that traditionally required you to be sitting in front of a keyboard & a mouse to be played from the proverbial couch.

As a long-time Unix/Linux guy who runs all his games on Linux and is happy with a regular controller, I couldn't care less for the Steam machines themselves. However, I agree with Gaben that it is important to keep the PC gaming platform open (which is what MS is moving away from), and that is what the Steam machines are designed to do. And, of course, getting all these games to run natively on Linux is the best part for me!

 
Also, Gaben has been increasing critical of Microsoft, Windows 8, and the Microsoft Store included in Windows 8 and probably want more PC gamers (and developers) to shift towards linux.
And that's the Catch 22...

A higher end steambox (e.g. those GTX 780s) don't make sense until there are more graphically demanding Steam-Linux games. With a GTX 780 GTX & quad core i5/i7 I'd surely have a windows install so I can play all the eye-candy AAA titles. (For over a decade, I've had a win-desktop for the sole purpose of gaming... other computers for real work.)
 
I thought it was established these are just small computers. The only draw for a dedicated PC user is the things they've been doing with SteamOS, Big Picture Mode, Family Mode, etc. and the controller.

This is really just an attempt to make it easier/dummy proof for the uninformed, average, casual gamer to get into PC gaming.
That's fine. But what reason would the uninformed, average, casual gamer have for getting into PC gaming? If it's going to cost twice as much as an Xbox One, those people aren't even going to consider it. I guess I just gave Valve too much credit with this announcement that they were actually going to try to break into the living room and try to steal a portion of the console market. But if they're pedaling it off to PC makers and expecting people to pay normal PC prices, then there's really nothing to see here.
 
Installing Steam OS is not exactly easy or for the more casual audiences. It even erases everything you have on your disc. They made the SteamBoxs beta models just so they could see how the OS will be doing on your average, comercially-available steambox. They need to be sure they streamline and optimize for the different configurations available, and to make sure you can use it to the full extent with just the controller.

Again, there isnt any plans for a commercially available steambox from Valve, and I doubt there will ever be. It would be a waste of money when you have a crapload of manufacturers willing to do that for you.
I am heavily leaning towards this notion. I doubt we'll see a commercial Steam Box anytime soon.

I still think Valve is just scouting the waters atm. To me at least, it seems their main objective is to get the PC into the family room. The closest thing to that atm is the XB1. Last time I checked, the XB1 isn't the MUST have thing of the season (compared to previous fads in recent history). Because the market for these things are shakey at best, there's really no need to push these things out. The average consumer would not blindly throw $500-$1500 at these things... for now. Until average joe is willing to spend for a Steam Box, we won't see them produced commercially.

 
There are number of smaller we'll-build-your-pc outfits.. slap a set of components in an appropriate chassis install SteamOS and voila steam box.  We'll see them commercially offered since there is no extra box and little extra effort to make it a "steam box"... I can also easily see somthing like an alienware pc shipping dual-boot win/steamos.

 
I'm highly in favor toward open OS/linux. But M$ is a necessary evil. I absoutely hate Windows 8/8.1 and kinda wish the whole tablet/touch interface fad would die. However, it is impossible to ignore the rising market of tablets. In the end it is average joe that the market caters to. 

Because of this I kinda fear for the future of PC gaming or just gaming in general. Gaming seems to be becoming more niche as time goes on. Who knows, maybe the future of gaming will be reduced to nothing but small 2.99 apps. I shudder at that thought.

 
Installing Steam OS is not exactly easy or for the more casual audiences. It even erases everything you have on your disc. They made the SteamBoxs beta models just so they could see how the OS will be doing on your average, comercially-available steambox. They need to be sure they streamline and optimize for the different configurations available, and to make sure you can use it to the full extent with just the controller.

Again, there isnt any plans for a commercially available steambox from Valve, and I doubt there will ever be. It would be a waste of money when you have a crapload of manufacturers willing to do that for you.
Was going to type a long response, but in the end...I just don't care. Neither of us work at Valve so who knows what the company has in their plans.

All I know is the Steam Box and its controller is a neat machine that I'll have fun taking apart and tinkering with over the holiday break. When I get the chance, I'll write a more comprehensive review after testing. (Assuming I don't break it) :whistle2:

 
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To be fair, To The Moon doesn't have any pixel hunting, the term pixel hunt meaning that you are panning a mouse cursor around trying to find a fraction of an image to click to accomplish something, used almost exclusively as a negative term. You're instead walking your character around to interact with objects laid out on a grid. There's no precision or maddening overlooking involved. For the most part, it's "Oh hey, the rabbit's here, that's got to be one," in between dialog sequences.
I don't mean to be contrary, but pixel hunting is precisely what you're required to do.

Granted, there are some objects that are more obvious, but there are plenty of things like bookshelves and clocks on walls that don't stand out in any way. Once you hit the right range of pixels you're given a magnifying glass to indicate that it is an object of interest. Until then, you're on your own.

Let me just say that I'm a fan of hidden object games, so I have a fair amount of patience. I believe that the dialogue grinding and clunky controls, combined with the pixel hunt, was just not something that sat well with me for whatever reason.

 
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GMG is going to start paying for Steam achievements in store credit. Beta info here.
This is cool but I don't get what they mean by log into Playfire with your GMG account details. I use a different email for Playfire and GMG, if I change one to match the other does that auto-link? DO I have to change my password to match? I clicked their link and linked my Steam account which I thought had already been linked.. I guess I better ask on their forum.

 
I don't mean to be contrary, but pixel hunting is precisely what you're required to do.

Granted, there are some objects that are more obvious, but there are plenty of things like bookshelves and clocks on walls that don't stand out in any way. Once you hit the right range of pixels you're given a magnifying glass to indicate that it is an object of interest. Until then, you're on your own.

Let me just say that I'm a fan of hidden object games, so I have a fair amount of patience. I believe that the dialogue grinding and clunky controls, combined with the pixel hunt, was just not something that sat well with me for whatever reason.
I haven't played it, but I agree that pixel hunting with nice packaging is still pixel hunting.

I will say though that if you want some serious pixel hunting there's a few places in Scratches that really take the cake.

 
Trying to figure out what CPU I have without opening the machine again (download some stuff and don't want to interrupt the download).

From web searching, the boxes can have a config, i7-4770, i5-4570, and i3 (not specifed).

From system settings, I can see that its a Intel processor with a base of 3.2 GHz and has 4 cores and 4 threads. I think that rules out the i7 as the base speed is 3.4 GHz I think. 

I haven't been paying much attention to processors since my last pc build so hopefully someone can help me here. Do any core i3 have 4 cores and 4 threads or is that only core i5s?

 
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Trying to figure out what CPU I have without opening the machine again (download some stuff and don't want to interrupt the download).

From web searching, the boxes can have a config, i7-4770, i5-4570, and i3 (not specifed).

From system settings, I can see that its a Intel processor with a base of 3.2 GHz and has 4 cores and 4 threads. I think that rules out the i7 as the base speed is 3.4 GHz I think.

I haven't been paying much attention to processors since my last pc build so hopefully someone can help me here. Do any core i3 have 4 cores and 4 threads or is that only core i5s?
no, that must be an i5

 
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