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Daily Deal:
Please check the Steam homepage.

Weeklong Deals:
Steam usually has week-long deals that change on Mondays at 6PM UTC. They mostly feature indie games, and may not run every week.

Sale summary lists:

Key:
⤷ indicates DLC, — specifies part of a pack, + shows alternative versions, ⚠ highlights things worth knowing, ♫ is obvious, and ... denotes a multi-pack.

Holiday Sale 2013 | 19/12/13 through 3/1/14:
Days 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10-12, 13-14.

Spring/Autumn Sale 2013 | 27/11/13 through 3/12/13:
All days.

Steam deals on other stores: (Related threads on CAG.)

Indie* bundle threads: (*Not always indie, nor always a bundle.)

Free stuff:
There are quite a few free games (mostly Free to Play) and mods available via the Steam platform, a comprehensive list of which can be found in this thread on the SPUF.
(NOTE: free games are not permanently attached to your Steam account like actual purchases would be. You'll need to manually download a game again from the website if you uninstall it.)

Past Steam Deals Threads:

 
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Mooby said:
I don't think Razer (or Steel Series or whatever) are bad, per se, just grossly overpriced for what they deliver to the average gamer (which includes 99.99% if not all of everyone posting here0. Same reason people buy Ralph Lauren/designer clothing.
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Overpriced is a subjective term because even when you consider R&D, retooling and other production costs, everything everyone buys is overpriced. Yes even that $1 Dollar Tree mouse pad.

 
Fair enough.  I have no doubt it costs more for them to research and make a designer mouse just that the benefits of said research and design are largely pointless for all but a tiny fraction of gamers (of which Idiotoothy is not a member).

 
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Neuro5i5 said:
Overpriced is a subjective term because even when you consider R&D, retooling and other production costs, everything everyone buys is overpriced. Yes even that $1 Dollar Tree mouse pad.
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As videogame consoles are traditionally loss leaders to lure people into a company's ecosystem and purchase their games (which then bring that company profit due to licensing fees), and companies not named Nintendo generally take a loss on their first run consoles, the Playstation 4 and Xbox One are likely not overpriced by your logic.

 
I had bought my Razer during that 50% off sale they had last year.  So I didn't feel it was over-priced (for me) but had hoped the money I was paying was going to buy me a solid trouble-free mouse.

I need to RMA the thing.  Ironically, I bought a cheap $8 clearance Office Max house brand mouse to carry me over while the Razer was at the mouse hospital and the Office Max mouse has been working well enough that I haven't gotten around to doing the Razer RMA yet.

 
Mooby said:
Fair enough. I have no doubt it costs more for them to research and make a designer mouse just that the benefits of said research and design are largely pointless for all but a tiny fraction of gamers (of which Idiotoothy is not a member).
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True. It's a niche thing. I accept that I'm bound to pay more for a mouse with more than 2 thumb buttons. Of those options features and quality still vary, but I feel I'm paying more for the added features as opposed to it being labeled a gaming mouse. I have a few friends that work with Photoshop and some of them use G13's and gaming mice for the extra customization of buttons and macro capabilities. So, it's not necessarily just a gamer's market. And while I don't own any Ralph Lauren, I do own a few 'designer' label shirts, primarily because they actually fit me as opposed to some of the more reasonably priced attire I could buy.


Eldredpe said:
As videogame consoles are traditionally loss leaders to lure people into a company's ecosystem and purchase their games (which then bring that company profit due to licensing fees), and companies not named Nintendo generally take a loss on their first run consoles, the Playstation 4 and Xbox One are likely not overpriced by your logic.
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I can't claim to know the specific economics of said companies, but I'd assume those stated losses to be against profits and not actual expenditures.
 
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Eldredpe said:
I think he means when the mouse goes into a battery saving low-power state and you need to jiggle it for a moment to turn it back on.

Which should have nothing to do with gaming, and is really only a minor inconvenience in pretty much every possible scenario.

Unless you need to quickly look up how to defuse a bomb.

Because you need to defuse a bomb.

That's a possible scenario where that lag might be problematic.
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This also requires you to take 10-15 minutes deciding if you are going to defuse the bomb, so your mouse can go to sleep in the first place.

For most people it's an quicker decision.

Unless you have homicidal tendencies.

That's a possible scenario where that lag might be problematic.

 
Eldredpe said:
I think he means when the mouse goes into a battery saving low-power state and you need to jiggle it for a moment to turn it back on.
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That's what I mean. But it really does matter for FPS/RTS games, where 50 ms delays can be huge.

Edit: I remember people on MMOs that used to play with wireless mice, and what happens when their mouse dies. But that's really another issue.

 
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elessar123 said:
That's what I mean. But it really does matter for FPS/RTS games, where 50 ms delays can be huge.
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Have you tried the G700? I don't think it has any noticeable delay like that.. plus you can adjust the battery consumption if you're experiencing any delay. Of course, having no noticeable delay means it drains the battery a lot more, but you're not gonna find any wireless gaming mouse that doesn't have crap battery life.

 
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My wireless keyboard wakes up as your hands approach it, by the time I type anything it's instant. Pretty cool. It's backlit and lasts at least a month on one charge, I never even turn it off. This is the future.

 
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re4 app id for ru is 36942 which is region free but purchase restricted (aka nome or kruzoer or iheo?) while  the region free is 36941

 
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Wireless can be designed to have the same latency as wired... however implementations vary. Bad mouse lag can really suck during general desktop use. I've been happy with my $10 Logitech M325 wireless mice. (not my primary mice though)

louiedog said:
It's 2014. You don't run to your computer. You ask Siri, Google Voice Search, or I guess Clippy if you're on Windows Phone 8 for "how to diffuse a bomb."

Then you ask 3 more times until it understands you and takes to an cleverly titled article about how Disney could have saved John Carter.
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Damn, I didn't know my WinPho8 could do that... I should really read the manual sometime. (I've still been clinging to my 4-year phone.) Voice input is handy on my Nexus 7.

MrNinjaSquirrel said:
This also requires you to take 10-15 minutes deciding if you are going to defuse the bomb, so your mouse can go to sleep in the first place.

For most people it's an quicker decision.

Unless you have homicidal tendencies.

That's a possible scenario where that lag might be problematic.
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I changed my mind....

 
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I don't use Siri cause I feel stupid talking to a robot. One time I overcame that and asked her where is the clitoris, she said she doesn't know what that means. Some robot. :(

 
well grid 2  is finaly done now they hav reloaded eediton aka goty aka full paackage but also has purchase restriciton but no run in restricition so it is 40% off steam in russia or a little more through nome and biosohck infnite drop to 29.99 and bordlerands 2  drop to 19.99 

 
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Naked Snake Eyes said:
I don't use Siri cause I feel stupid talking to a robot. One time I overcame that and asked her where is the clitoris, she said she doesn't know what that means. Some robot. :(
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Colour me curious but I just ask S Voice that question and the answer that I got is, I will score 10 if I put that in scrabble.

 
Naked Snake Eyes said:
I don't use Siri cause I feel stupid talking to a robot. One time I overcame that and asked her where is the clitoris, she said she doesn't know what that means. Some robot. :(
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No, it's a perfectly fine robot. Would you expect a robot to know about the clitoris? Human males (and I daresay some females) don't even understand it.

Naked Snake Eyes said:
My wireless keyboard wakes up as your hands approach it, by the time I type anything it's instant. Pretty cool. It's backlit and lasts at least a month on one charge, I never even turn it off. This is the future.
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No, the future is the telepathic keyboard typing out your posts as you think them. Get cracking on that, somebody!

louiedog said:
It's 2014. You don't run to your computer. You ask Siri, Google Voice Search, or I guess Clippy if you're on Windows Phone 8 for "how to diffuse a bomb."

Then you ask 3 more times until it understands you and takes to an cleverly titled article about how Disney could have saved John Carter.
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Yeah, that sounds about right. Except that nothing could have saved John Carter. Poor Burroughs.
 
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warreni said:
Would you expect a robot to know about the clitoris? Human males (and I daresay some females) don't even understand it.
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spoderman said:
Have you tried the G700? I don't think it has any noticeable delay like that.. plus you can adjust the battery consumption if you're experiencing any delay. Of course, having no noticeable delay means it drains the battery a lot more, but you're not gonna find any wireless gaming mouse that doesn't have crap battery life.
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I haven't tried any of the more recent high-end gaming wireless mice. Maybe it's mostly been fixed in those, but I still have no problems with a thinly-braided wired mouse that will more likely last longer.

 
Anyone seeing a game named Bloodline Champions suddenly appeared in their library? Its redirect me to Borderlands when I clicked the community hub or store page.

 
asheskitty said:
Nope. But on my PC I have a ghost copy of Painkiller Hell and Damnation that I can install but not play.
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Even if you click the exe inside the folder?

Ok, I checked the interwebs and bloodline champion is a moba. Dont know why its in my library suddenly, I dont even play that genre. (Another game added to "dont install" category.)

 
MnemnocH said:
Even if you click the exe inside the folder?

Ok, I checked the interwebs and bloodline champion is a moba. Dont know why its in my library suddenly, I dont even play that genre. (Another game added to "dont install" category.)
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Hmm, I'll have to try that... I was only mildly curious about it...

 
INMATEofARKHAM said:
No one is interested in going in on a 2 pack for Divinity: Original Sin with me? $12.50 each...
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Nope.

Here's why I won't:

1. It's still in "Early Access". So that means it is likely incomplete, rough around the edges, might lack features, probably not patched-up too much, might have issues, might be unstable, and God knows what kind of other stuff.

2. It's not even 75% off or better.

 
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Neuropod said:
I know what he means, and I hardly live in what could be called a 'humid region'. I had a Logitech mouse (G9) and over the summer, the rubber on the scroll wheel melted and pretty much just turned to sticky goo. Up until that point though it was a great mouse. As for PS2 controllers - I've found you can fix most of the stickiness by wiping them down a few times with Windex. ;)
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I usually use Lysol wipes, but yeah, that's pretty much all you can do. Thankfully I hardly touch my PS2 these days; I just play the games on the PC with an Xbox 360 controller.

Cheaplikeafox 3.0 said:
Do you people live outside? We have things called like AC and heating and windows and other shit where I'm from. Makes whatever the fuck is outside stay outside.
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Baaarely any houses in Maui have AC. Unless you're spending 2-3 million or more on your home, at least.

Syntax Error said:
Anecdotes aren't data but my anecdote is that the left button on my Razer Death Adder 2013 crapped out in less than a year. Not very impressed with the build quality. My Logitech MX Revolution lasted me years, probably 5+ before it had problems.
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Yeah, that's how it goes with a lot of things. My anecdotes from Logitech products would be along the same lines. Never liked the feel of them, was reasonably satisfied with the performance, but they broke early on or were defective. I'm not necessarily saying Logitech is the scum of the Earth (there's a reason so many people love them), but I dislike the build quality, feel, and if I'm going to run into issues or defects, I'd rather have a Razer that 1. I haven't run into that many problems with, and 2. I like the warranty for.

asheskitty said:
Dell & HP OEM mice are commonly rebranded Logitechs.
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elessar123 said:
IMO, Razer isn't top-of-the-line. But it's also not trash. My first Razer mouse crapped out on me in under a year (common problem back then, where the button hits multiple times, or doesn't respond). But the free replacement is still working. Ten years later. The rubber on the buttons do feel sticky now though.

I have another Razer mouse that doesn't have rubber on the buttons. The paint started fading on one button like a month after I bought it. Other than that, it's been going strong for a year and a half.

Logitech has always made good products. Some are better than Razers, but they're not much cheaper, if at all. But my problem with them is that they usually feel weird. They're usually very "ergonomic" and curved. I change my mouse grip a lot, so those just won't work for me.

And it does matter a lot more if you're into competitive gaming. I used to notice the difference with subpar mice a lot more than nowadays, but I also don't really have a competitive mind in gaming any more. However, I will still stay way the fuck away from wireless mice. Because no matter what, there's always noticeable latency when you first move the mouse after some inactivity. It's less noticeable with wireless keyboards.
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Pretty much all of this. ^

I do consider Razer top of line, personally (though their cheaper stuff is known to be of lower build quality, obviously), because of the build quality, materials used, and overall feel, because what's the alternative? Logitech, pretty much, or SteelSeries (which I honestly haven't used). I've never found a company that's selling you technology that has ZERO defects, never breaks, etc, unless I can count like... my NES. It mostly comes down to preference at that point, and like you mentioned, I just don't like Logitech's feel and materials. The Mamba's top surface is soft and matte and feels like velvet, the clicks are light but extremely crisp and responsive, the side buttons feel the same, the scroll wheel has just the right amount of firmness and give to it, the rubber sidings give you perfect grip, the material of the feet (especially on a gaming mousepad) are buttery smooth, and the ergonomics are just flawless. Honestly, even using other mice now feels awful. It spoils you.

It's wireless as well, and there's zero latency there. You wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between plugging it in via USB or using it wireless.

spoderman said:
As for mice, if you're a gamer and want wireless, you're going to need to spend a decent amount of cash to get a decent one. Logitech G700 is probably the best wireless mouse still in production for the price and performance. The only issue I can see with it is it's.. big, so if you have small hands, stay away. The Mamba (mouse that Idiotekque uses) has a $30 higher MSRP than the G700 and isn't as well regarded, so I have to agree Razer products are usually overpriced compared to the competition, especially considering they're known for worse build quality, and have worse customer support compared to their competitors..
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Have you actually touched and used a Mamba? Because I've never come across any mouse with a higher build quality. I've never even seen a complaint about the build quality, just the complaint here and there about defects and things breaking (that you could find with Logitech mice as well, especially regarding their lasers). The Mamba is regarded as the best gaming mouse on the market by a lot of people, and those who don't feel the same are the ones who probably like the shape and feel of the G700 (nothing wrong with that, I just don't), or are Razer haters the same way that people are Alienware haters.

 
I recently found my old ball mouse and overclocked it, now it's just as good, if not better than any optical/laser mouse on the market.  I experimented more and overclocked my refrigerator, now it's a freezer.

 
Idiotekque said:
Have you actually touched and used a Mamba? Because I've never come across any mouse with a higher build quality. I've never even seen a complaint about the build quality, just the complaint here and there about defects and things breaking (that you could find with Logitech mice as well, especially regarding their lasers). The Mamba is regarded as the best gaming mouse on the market by a lot of people, and those who don't feel the same are the ones who probably like the shape and feel of the G700 (nothing wrong with that, I just don't), or are Razer haters the same way that people are Alienware haters.
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If you're having to RMA it because of issues with "glue", I'm pretty sure that does not equal good build quality.. Not saying it's a bad mouse or anything, but it doesn't seem like the build quality is good based on what you said.

 
I'm tired of mice talk.  Let's start something new.  My roommate is moving out in a week, girlfriend is moving in, and I'm redoing the layout of my apartment.  Want to finally get a nice TV and use it for Big Picture.  However, it'll be in the living room, and the PC will probably stay in the bedroom.  Anybody have suggestions on the best way to route the picture to the TV? I'd rather not use a long HDMI cable, but wireless HDMI is expensive and looks to be iffy.  I remember there were a couple of posts about this some months back, but I doubt I could find them now.  Thoughts?

 
cyrus386 said:
I'm tired of mice talk. Let's start something new. My roommate is moving out in a week, girlfriend is moving in, and I'm redoing the layout of my apartment. Want to finally get a nice TV and use it for Big Picture. However, it'll be in the living room, and the PC will probably stay in the bedroom. Anybody have suggestions on the best way to route the picture to the TV? I'd rather not use a long HDMI cable, but wireless HDMI is expensive and looks to be iffy. I remember there were a couple of posts about this some months back, but I doubt I could find them now. Thoughts?
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I just googled and shit came up:

http://techchannel.radioshack.com/wirelessly-connect-pc-tv-2561.html

looks helpful?

 
spoderman said:
If you're having to RMA it because of issues with "glue", I'm pretty sure that does not equal good build quality.. Not saying it's a bad mouse or anything, but it doesn't seem like the build quality is good based on what you said.
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Like I already explained (multiple times, in fact), that issue had very little to do with the build quality. If another company is using that type of glue, you can bet they're using exactly the same glue. Razer didn't sit down and say "Know what? Let's use low quality glue.", it just got a little damp and not-so-sticky faster because of where I live (and if it allows me to get a brand new mouse once a year, I actually hit the jackpot there, oddly enough).

If you're gonna hate on something, you should use it yourself to come to a conclusion. I've used Logitech controllers and mice, and for the reasons I've stated a couple times, I really don't like them and probably won't be buying any more. You used a keyboard that had some key resistance issues (that you probably could have exchanged and solved the problem, Razer support is pretty damn good). The one Razer issue that is well known is that sometimes you'll get something, and it'll have a defect. That happens with many companies, and it probably does happen more often with Razer.

Like the top negative comment on Amazon says (1-star rating) "When it works, this is an awesome mouse". That can totally steer people away from liking Razer, and that's totally valid. Personally, I haven't run into many issues, and the pros outweigh the cons for me (and I don't mind having to exchange something if the product is worth it). Once again, preference plays a large role.

 
cyrus386 said:
I'm tired of mice talk. Let's start something new. My roommate is moving out in a week, girlfriend is moving in, and I'm redoing the layout of my apartment. Want to finally get a nice TV and use it for Big Picture. However, it'll be in the living room, and the PC will probably stay in the bedroom. Anybody have suggestions on the best way to route the picture to the TV? I'd rather not use a long HDMI cable, but wireless HDMI is expensive and looks to be iffy. I remember there were a couple of posts about this some months back, but I doubt I could find them now. Thoughts?
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I use an hdmi->ethernet adapter. It converts the hdmi lines to ethernet lines, so its not actually using any packetizing or anything just the physical ethernet wires. Goes to the reverse adapter on the other end.

I have mine going with a 100ft ethernet run and it works fine, could use a shorter one though. Ive used this setup for 5-6 years now, first to run my sat box video from living room to bedroom in an apartment. Now I use it run from my pc in a loft area down to the family room in the area below the loft. My only suggestion would be to get a powered one as it can definitely help on long runs

of course its no wireless, but it is 100x cheaper than a wireless setup and probably more reliable to boot

 
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Idiotekque said:
Like I already explained (multiple times, in fact), that issue had very little to do with the build quality. If another company is using that type of glue, you can bet they're using exactly the same glue. Razer didn't sit down and say "Know what? Let's use low quality glue.", it just got a little damp and not-so-sticky faster because of where I live (and if it allows me to get a brand new mouse once a year, I actually hit the jackpot there, oddly enough).

If you're gonna hate on something, you should use it yourself to come to a conclusion. I've used Logitech controllers and mice, and for the reasons I've stated a couple times, I really don't like them and probably won't be buying any more. You used a keyboard that had some key resistance issues (that you probably could have exchanged and solved the problem, Razer support is pretty damn good). The one Razer issue that is well known is that sometimes you'll get something, and it'll have a defect. That happens with many companies, and it probably does happen more often with Razer.

Like the top negative comment on Amazon says (1-star rating) "When it works, this is an awesome mouse". That can totally steer people away from liking Razer, and that's totally valid. Personally, I haven't run into many issues, and the pros outweigh the cons for me (and I don't mind having to exchange something if the product is worth it). Once again, preference plays a large role.
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I don't care about either company.

Point we're trying to make is you can't say that the "only" issues people ever have are with defective mice, and then say the build quality is great. If the build quality was truly great, then they wouldn't have so many issues.

From most of the Amazon reviews, they send out as many duds, if not more than any other company, so you can't really make an argument that their build quality is good.

What you're saying is if/when you get a good mouse then it's great. Which may be true, but the same thing could be said about anything. When I got a good/working PS2 it was great. The blu disc/laser/shitty issues I ran into prior to that told me that I was lucky, not that Sony was making great machines.

 
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