Amazon Warehouse Deals Thread X

kme06d said:
It's crazy how much those BD:CE are going for. I pre-ordered mine from best buy for $30 after rewards points. I still haven't played it, but I'm glad I pre-ordered.
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Yeah same here. I think all together I paid $32 w/tax after GCU and 5-10 I had in rewards. Pretty glad I was able to preorder when I did back at the start of this year. I figured it'd be a pretty rare game but I underestimated how rare it was going to be.

You really need to play it though. The game is one of the better jrpg's I've played in a long time. Sadly, I've been hooked to my 3ds since I started playing.

 
Donut2922 said:
Some sellers were offloading theirs for $80 shipped just weeks ago. Rare + well received game = high secondary value. Some folks can't seem to comprehend this.
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I think it has more to do with this being an se title so they didn't expect it to be rare. seems like it was under printed like xenoblade and unless they do a reprint expect ce's to hit maybe even 200.

 
shadowysea07 said:
I think it has more to do with this being an se title so they didn't expect it to be rare. seems like it was under printed like xenoblade and unless they do a reprint expect ce's to hit maybe even 200.
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There are clues to a game or CE version being "rare" even before release, but usually if a game sells out of pre-orders and its a CE, chances are pretty high it's going to be rare and value will be high.

 
Should be getting my $45 (LN) BD CE any moment now from UPS. My first one was (G) and was in great shape save for some smooshing of the cheapy cardboard outer case, so I expect this one to look like a dog mangled it for days.

 
DealSeeker2U said:
It is the same thing happening with the BD:CEs that is happening to ps4s as in lack of supply of the new one and demand still high for both new and used affecting used AWD prices. New ones being in stock (doubt it with BD:CE) would bring prices down for used AWD ones as it affects the pricing algorithm. In the absence of new ones in stock at Amazon, the secondary market sets the precedence and that sadly is pushing AWD used prices upwards. Either way, you never know when one cheap one will slip through the cracks so keep your fingers crossed.
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Yeah but does Target/BB/etc jack up the price on returns if the demand is high? AWD is a direct division off of Amazon (a retailer) and is how they deal with most of their returns now it seems. IMO I agree with the guy you replied to that it's just unethical to do. Supply and demand should have nothing to do with it, it just seems greedy.

 
JKSonic said:
Yeah but does Target/BB/etc jack up the price on returns if the demand is high? AWD is a direct division off of Amazon (a retailer) and is how they deal with most of their returns now it seems. IMO I agree with the guy you replied to that it's just unethical to do. Supply and demand should have nothing to do with it, it just seems greedy.
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I'm pretty positive Amazon doesn't decide "you know what, fuck those guys" and price certain items higher than others. It all has to do with how their computer systems (or algorithms) are set and they set it to auto-pilot, for the most part.

As was said in the post you quoted, the secondary market sets the precedence of what price the "auto-pilot" algorithm decides to roll with. ;)

 
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HydroX said:
I'm pretty positive Amazon doesn't decide "you know what, fuck those guys" and price certain items higher than others. It all has to do with how their computer systems (or algorithms) are set and they set it to auto-pilot, for the most part.

As was said in the post you quoted, the secondary market sets the precedence of what price the "auto-pilot" algorithm decides to roll with. ;)
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Well still, I mean at some point somebody has to set a certain item to abide by that algorithm right? "New" items that are damaged especially, should never be part of any pricing algorithm really... New retail items on Amazon don't follow it they have a set price so I'd propose they should do the same for items like this.

 
JKSonic said:
Well still, I mean at some point somebody has to set a certain item to abide by that algorithm right? "New" items that are damaged especially, should never be part of any pricing algorithm really... New retail items on Amazon don't follow it they have a set price so I'd propose they should do the same for items like this.
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take the good with the bad, 30 dollar ps3s, vitas and 360s, overpriced damaged collector's editions. roll with the punches

 
JKSonic said:
Well still, I mean at some point somebody has to set a certain item to abide by that algorithm right? "New" items that are damaged especially, should never be part of any pricing algorithm really... New retail items on Amazon don't follow it they have a set price so I'd propose they should do the same for items like this.
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And yet, when that algorithm goes haywire and gives $90 TIV for a wireless xbox microsoft, nobody complains. Can't want them to exclude items when it's in your favor but not exclude items when it's in your favor.

ritchardf said:
take the good with the bad, 30 dollar ps3s, vitas and 360s, overpriced damaged collector's editions. roll with the punches
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Exactly.

 
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So if the prices on something goes down it's OK for AWD to reflect that but not when an item is in high demand or rare? Of course it's preferable to have everything be cheap but you can pay $100 for one or $50-60 for one right now and both will be equally damaged.
 
Confucius said:
And yet, when that algorithm goes haywire and gives $90 TIV for a wireless xbox microsoft, nobody complains. Can't want them to exclude items when it's in your favor but not exclude items when it's in your favor.
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Confucius said:
And yet, when that algorithm goes haywire and gives $90 TIV for a wireless xbox microsoft, nobody complains. Can't want them to exclude items when it's in your favor but not exclude items when it's in your favor.

Exactly.
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I understand taking the good with the bad and to an extent I agree... But lowering prices and raising them are two very, very different things. All stores (well, most of them) DROP prices on a regular basis. Sales, clearance, returns, etc etc. How many stores raise the prices above MSRP though? Any retail stores that do that?... So basically just Amazon right? Why are they so special, seriously, why... I've gotten extremely good deals at Target and BB before too so don't use the "oh they give really good deals so just deal with it".

edit: Let me be clear too...again...talking about the returned/damaged/new/like-new items here.

 
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JKSonic said:
I understand taking the good with the bad and to an extent I agree... But lowering prices and raising them are two very, very different things. All stores (well, most of them) DROP prices on a regular basis. Sales, clearance, returns, etc etc. How many stores raise the prices above MSRP though? Any retail stores that do that?... So basically just Amazon right? Why are they so special, seriously, why... I've gotten extremely good deals at Target and BB before too so don't use the "oh they give really good deals so just deal with it".
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FYI, they're not a store and MSRP doesn't factor into it. They're a re-seller.

 
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JKSonic said:
I understand taking the good with the bad and to an extent I agree... But lowering prices and raising them are two very, very different things. All stores (well, most of them) DROP prices on a regular basis. Sales, clearance, returns, etc etc. How many stores raise the prices above MSRP though? Any retail stores that do that?... So basically just Amazon right? Why are they so special, seriously, why... I've gotten extremely good deals at Target and BB before too so don't use the "oh they give really good deals so just deal with it".
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I see your point, really, I do. Amazon is not your traditional B&M store that needs to eliminate stock to make room for newer items. Also, GoHastings raises prices on the regular and constantly sells above MSRP, so your point is kind of invalid, in that sense. ;)

How many stores sell PS3/360 systems, obscenely overpriced collectors editions, etc. to $30 or so? Any retail stores that do that?... So basically just Amazon, right?

Edit: Eld sums it up much nicer than I could. lol.. I always forget that AWD is not really "Amazon", per say.

 
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EldritchOnRye said:
FYI, they're not a store and MSRP doesn't factor into it. They're a re-seller.
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But they are still part of Amazon, which is my point. What's stopping Amazon from "buying" up some of these CE's and just "reselling" them there for more money? Yup, nothing... Wasn't this CE especially hard to find and went much quicker than people expected? Just sayin, may seem for out in left field but is it really? Ok maybe it's far out there O:) but still my point is it's considered part of Amazon it's not like a 3rd party independant retailer they get stuff that was returned to Amazon and sell it.

 
HydroX said:
I see your point, really, I do. Amazon is not your traditional B&M store that needs to eliminate stock to make room for newer items. Also, GoHastings raises prices on the regular and constantly sells above MSRP, so your point is kind of invalid, in that sense. ;)

How many stores sell PS3/360 systems, obscenely overpriced collectors editions, etc. to $30 or so? Any retail stores that do that?... So basically just Amazon, right?

Edit: Eld sums it up much nicer than I could. lol.. I always forget that AWD is not really "Amazon", per say.
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Target, Best Buy, even Wal Mart sometimes...have all sold CE's and systems for very cheap prices. Maybe not AS cheap but those ones that ARE that cheap are usually so for a reason (usually damage). I'm still holding my point, lol :pray:

 
JKSonic said:
But they are still part of Amazon, which is my point. What's stopping Amazon from "buying" up some of these CE's and just "reselling" them there for more money? Yup, nothing... Wasn't this CE especially hard to find and went much quicker than people expected? Just sayin, may seem for out in left field but is it really? Ok maybe it's far out there O:) but still my point is it's considered part of Amazon it's not like a 3rd party independant retailer they get stuff that was returned to Amazon and sell it.
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Would it make you happier if they called it Yangtze Warehouse Deals?

The basic point is that they mark some up, they mark some down. Most of the time it's down so why quibble with the algorithm on like .05% of items. Seems like you just want to nitpick.

 
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Well you know what you do if you don't like it?  You simply don't buy it and the market will adjust or others will buy it.

It's their product and their side business, they can do whatever they want with it within the confines of the law and what the market will support.  If they wanted to sell every high demand CE for $20 over MSRP they're perfectly able to.

Most people have the perspective to see that in situations like these that if not for having AWD to sell their damaged merchandise on that there would be dozens of CEs not even on the market as they would have been sent back to the distributor, and the CE contents destroyed, or destroyed outright by Amazon.  If anything the complaint should be that Amazon failed to use due diligence in packing these items.  Beyond that you may as well just complain that Nintendo didn't make every single copy the CE.

 
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GamerDude316 said:
Another pointless debate. I'm just sick of hearing about Bravely Default at this point ;)
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Speaking of which, I received mine 30 minutes ago and it's in pretty darn good condition. Everything is intact, aside from some bending on the spine and mushed a little bit on the bottom corner. ;)

 
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HydroX said:
Speaking of which, I received mine 30 minutes ago and it's in pretty darn good condition. Everything is intact, aside from some bending on the spine and mushed a little bit on the bottom corner. ;)
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Sure sure but did you pay over retail for it? ;)

In all seriousness, I can't justify 60 for it. Lucky for those who got it sub 40.

 
Confucius said:
Sure sure but did you pay over retail for it? ;)

In all seriousness, I can't justify 60 for it. Lucky for those who got it sub 40.
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I almost cancelled it. It was $44, way over my usual $36. I should contact them and gripe for overcharging me, those greedy bastids.

 
If memory serves correctly the last 2 Fridays we've seen a large re-stock. Here's hoping for 3 in a row :)


EldritchOnRye said:
Well you know what you do if you don't like it? You simply don't buy it and the market will adjust or others will buy it.

It's their product and their side business, they can do whatever they want with it within the confines of the law and what the market will support. If they wanted to sell every high demand CE for $20 over MSRP they're perfectly able to.

Most people have the perspective to see that in situations like these that if not for having AWD to sell their damaged merchandise on that there would be dozens of CEs not even on the market as they would have been sent back to the distributor, and the CE contents destroyed, or destroyed outright by Amazon. If anything the complaint should be that Amazon failed to use due diligence in packing these items. Beyond that you may as well just complain that Nintendo didn't make every single copy the CE.
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The part I don't like is they didn't do what any sane person would do and pack a CE in a manner that would give it even the slightest chance of reaching it's destination without being damaged, which you mention as well. To make matters worse it was OOS before release date giving consumers little chance to secure one. Moving forward I have little faith in Amazon to consistently package CE/LE items in a manner that I, or any gamer, would deem acceptable. Like you said though, the market will dictate whether they change these, or really any trends. I'm much more likely to get my CE's at GameStop/Best Buy in the future and if others follow suit eventually Amazon will determine why, especially with the amount of complaints they must receive on shipping these types of items.

Regarding selling over MSRP, in this case I believe they are still selling them below what the market has settled on as "Market Value" so they will continue to sell whether us CAG purchase them at those prices or not.

 
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Not gonna lie, I think I might be ready to bite on a Xbox One finally if I see one. Assuming we do get a restock.

 
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[quote name="Donut2922" post="11566759" timestamp="1393605682"]Some sellers were offloading theirs for $80 shipped just weeks ago. Rare + well received game = high secondary value. Some folks can't seem to comprehend this.[/quote]no actually what I don't comprehend is why people are going nuts on this, but for a LONG time preorders were available at amazon (sold out first) then best buy and gamestop. There was that thread that was on the front page for awhile. I remember visiting that page and people bitching how gamestop was charging $5 more than bby or amazon. And now people are willing to pay for used or dingers for higher than MSRP. That's what I don't get. I think it was in stock on best buy at least a week before release date bc I looked at it buying bc of Gcu but passed. So thats my reason on why I'm confused about this CE haha
 
samaside said:
In the mid to lower $300s. I totally had one of the like $321 consoles ordered when they first showed up and then I canceled it immediately and have regretted it ever since.
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Patience grasshopper, your time will come.

realbigexplosion said:
I'm lazy and don't feel like reading the last couple pages.

:3ds: Mario Party: Island Tour - (LN) $24.90 (or save a cent by ordering from Zoo Gator!)

:vita: Injustice - (LN) $22.27
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I almost jumped on the MPIT but am not sure I'd play it more than once. That Injustice is one I returned. It was not for me but is in excellent condition.

 
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EldritchOnRye said:
Well you know what you do if you don't like it? You simply don't buy it and the market will adjust or others will buy it.

It's their product and their side business, they can do whatever they want with it within the confines of the law and what the market will support. If they wanted to sell every high demand CE for $20 over MSRP they're perfectly able to.

Most people have the perspective to see that in situations like these that if not for having AWD to sell their damaged merchandise on that there would be dozens of CEs not even on the market as they would have been sent back to the distributor, and the CE contents destroyed, or destroyed outright by Amazon. If anything the complaint should be that Amazon failed to use due diligence in packing these items. Beyond that you may as well just complain that Nintendo didn't make every single copy the CE.
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Maybe awd is taking sales lessons from GameStop on over manufacture retail price on used sets ex: xenoblade and metroid trilogy
 
Just got my two gold headsets, really glad I ordered two of them. 

First one I opened was the one graded G since it was cheaper, if it was good wouldnt even look at the other one and send it back for refund. Open it up, and again, NO FREAKING dongle, everything else is fine, just no dongle.

Opened up the one graded VG that was 5 dollars more, it is the first one ive gotten that was complete. 

2 out of 3 gold headsets I got didnt even come with the freaking dongle.

Oh well finally got a set for 75 after tax. 

 
kilik64 said:
Just got my two gold headsets, really glad I ordered two of them.

First one I opened was the one graded G since it was cheaper, if it was good wouldnt even look at the other one and send it back for refund. Open it up, and again, NO FREAKING dongle, everything else is fine, just no dongle.

Opened up the one graded VG that was 5 dollars more, it is the first one ive gotten that was complete.

2 out of 3 gold headsets I got didnt even come with the freaking dongle.

Oh well finally got a set for 75 after tax.
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Mine arrived as well. I'll chime in once I get home. Hopefully everything is there.

 
JKSonic said:
Yeah but does Target/BB/etc jack up the price on returns if the demand is high? AWD is a direct division off of Amazon (a retailer) and is how they deal with most of their returns now it seems. IMO I agree with the guy you replied to that it's just unethical to do. Supply and demand should have nothing to do with it, it just seems greedy.
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In my response to the op, I wasn't discussing the ethics of the AWD but explaining why it happened. It was a running joke here with me a few threads back when I had to explain this and it still applies "It's the algorithm". It always has been and it will be for time unknown and unforeseen. This is why their is a cycle where things go up and down in price, stretch and expand like a rubber band and snap back, and repeat the cycle in AWD. Everyone else, including yourself has said plentiful on the matter, ethics and otherwise so I won't repeat it.

 
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