Xbox One - General Discussion Thread

Lol at not much negative about ps4 garbage. When was last time xbone had something negative? I can list off many things that are negative about ps 4. But this is xbox one forum so will not do that.
Well...they still haven't loosened up about that indie launch parity clause yet....

Which I don't imagine will go on for much longer. Maybe an E3 reveal of their own indie support with the announcement that the parity clause is gone?

 
I'm always baffled when I always hear gamers and even critics, well anyone can be a critic these days right, say that Playstation has the best exclusives. Well, I find that to be subjective actually and if people are just looking at Metacritic ahh please stop. I got a 360, back in '06, when I had to upgrade my PC and it would be about the same price for new PC parts as it was for the Xbox 360 Pro, and right before Gears of War (I remember it like it was yesterday haha). I guarantee you if I had plopped down that money into my PC it would not have lasted well until today, as I'm still using my Xbox 360 currently (obv not the same one, we've had some bumpy roads yet I got a Xbox 360 replacement from support for free so I appreciate that one).

As for the numbers, ok guys take a bite into the news today: Sony forecasts fifth annual loss in years. Their Playstation brand is doing a lot better than the rest of their portfolio. Their CEOs are taking a pay cut, they're selling their PC business (I'm typing on a Vaio btw) and their flagship studio Naughty Dog is loosing people left and right. Do I want Sony out of the picture, no, in actuality more competitors the better for everyone but am I going into the Sony PS4 thread and going aohhh look nah nah nah. Nope, because I'm playing Peggle 2 right now! Besides Sony has promised a lot in the past and not delivered. Yeah look at what they did with the Vita, they promised a lot and then they just sort of faded away on it while there are some great games on the system. Game on.
The vita has to be Sony's biggest disappointment in years. They've completely killed off first party support for it at this point only giving the system watered down ports. Unfortunately I didn't think they ever stood a chance in that area, the hardware just gets more and more outdated compared to Tablets and Phones and unlike Nintendo they never had a strong amount of IP's that could succeed on the system.

 
Microsoft is guilty of a certain degree of hubris. And yes, Sony fell into the same trap when designing the PS3.

Oddly enough, Microsoft is not going to have to suffer for nearly as long as Sony did. While there were several questionable decisions revolving around the XBox One, the majority of them were not central to the design of the system. The vast majority of them could be excised through software revisions. (as has actually come to pass) One of the major sticking points in terms of hardware was a peripheral, a device that by its very nature can be removed.

With the PS3, most of the mistakes Sony made were very much central to the core design of the system, and could not be changed after the fact. They painted themselves into a corner, and are still having to suffer for it. The lack of PS3 backwards compatibility on the PS4 is a direct result of this.

So while Microsoft is guilty of similar hubris, they at least managed to avoid some of the more damning mistakes that Sony made.

 
Well they are stuck with weaker hardware.  I'm sure they wish they could correct that somehow, but like Sony with the PS3 they are going to have to ride it out until their next console.  Also another funny thing that may happen is Microsoft in the next console may want to go unified memory like the PS4 did eliminating the esram and making life easier for developers, in doing so they will lose backward compatibility with this gen, something Sony is set up nicely to avoid.

 
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The vita has to be Sony's biggest disappointment in years. They've completely killed off first party support for it at this point only giving the system watered down ports. Unfortunately I didn't think they ever stood a chance in that area, the hardware just gets more and more outdated compared to Tablets and Phones and unlike Nintendo they never had a strong amount of IP's that could succeed on the system.
Yep. It's a shame as it's great hardware while the 3ds (I have both) is pretty lame hardware wise.

I'm fine with the Vita getting jrpgs and indie games though as I prefer playing those on a portable. And it has a fairly high attach rate since it's pretty much exclusively owned by hardcore gamers so this niche titles should keep coming.
 
What I'd like to see on Xbox One in the coming months:

-More apps.  (Xfinity / Comcast cable, HBO Go, etc.)

-More Twitch support!  I want party chat to stream, the ability to put overlays, things of that nature.  The latter part is a bit of a stretch prob ably, but party chat should of been included off the bat!

-Smartglass "Shortcut" functions.  I should be able to create shortcuts in the app to commands, such as recording the past 5 minutes of gameplay without having to interrupt the game.

-Better customizations of settings (specifically, sound).  Being able to pick how I mix my chat beyond the sound levels would be great.  Then I could actually stream Party Chat via Twitch and the like.

-More snap functionality.  At the announcement for Xbox One, they showed things like fantasy football being snapped while watching TV.  I'd love to see more of that, especially if certain new games had the ability to snap things like the score or event logs as a seperate snapped application.

-More incentives to go digital only.  Discounts on games, added content, things of that nature.  Deliver on the promise that the next gen is digital!

-I want a reason to shell out cash for a premium headset.  Give me a good reason by making the chat adapter support surround sound.

Overall, I'm loving the Xbox One.  I have a vision for it though that was inspired by what they originally pitched.  I'd like to see them continue to follow that future that was originally pitched, even if it's tweaked to make it easier to swallow for the "average consumer".

 
Microsoft is guilty of a certain degree of hubris. And yes, Sony fell into the same trap when designing the PS3.

Oddly enough, Microsoft is not going to have to suffer for nearly as long as Sony did. While there were several questionable decisions revolving around the XBox One, the majority of them were not central to the design of the system. The vast majority of them could be excised through software revisions. (as has actually come to pass) One of the major sticking points in terms of hardware was a peripheral, a device that by its very nature can be removed.

With the PS3, most of the mistakes Sony made were very much central to the core design of the system, and could not be changed after the fact. They painted themselves into a corner, and are still having to suffer for it. The lack of PS3 backwards compatibility on the PS4 is a direct result of this.

So while Microsoft is guilty of similar hubris, they at least managed to avoid some of the more damning mistakes that Sony made.
You're forgetting that the PlayStation 3 will continue to sell millions of consoles for the next 5-7 years---consoles that are now profitable for Sony. The 360 will be obsolete in a year and its sales numbers will be a non factor.

So yes... a bad start to the PS3... in which it launched a year after the 360... but it's longevity and finish will be 10x better.

 
You're forgetting that the PlayStation 3 will continue to sell millions of consoles for the next 5-7 years---consoles that are now profitable for Sony. The 360 will be obsolete in a year and its sales numbers will be a non factor.

So yes... a bad start to the PS3... in which it launched a year after the 360... but it's longevity and finish will be 10x better.
you got proof 360 will be done in a year? ms has already said and so has game devs they plan on supporting 360 for many years yet. keep talking all this nonsense it's great entertainment.

i swear dude next time you bash me for saying something negative on ps4 stuff on that thread im going to blow up like no other. You are nothing but a troll and at this point everyone is sick of it.

 
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To say the PS3 will continue to thrive while the 360 has a year left is just straight up stupid.

If anything, the cost of a PS4 should entice anyone who never got a PS3 to go right to the 4. It's not the same as PS3 being so much more than a PS2. And if people are still looking for old consoles (why) 360 has just as much to offer.
 
you got proof 360 will be done in a year? ms has already said and so has game devs they plan on supporting 360 for many years yet. keep talking all this nonsense it's great entertainment.
Microsoft has a bad habit of not supporting their old hardware after the new one is released. The Xbox 360 does seem like it will be different especially since they just made a new revision to the hardware not too long ago, but we'll see. I hope you're right and I think it's likely given how popular the console was in North America.

Heck, the last new release PS2 game that I bought was in 2010 (Sakura Wars V) and the last PS2 game in Japan was released in 2013 (Final Fantasy XI: Seekers of Adoulin). I doubt the 360 will see that kind of support, but it would be kind of fun to see.

 
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Microsoft has a bad habit of not supporting their old hardware after the new one is released. The Xbox 360 does seem like it will be different especially since they just made a new revision to the hardware not too long ago, but we'll see. I hope you're right and I think it's likely given how popular the console was in North America.

Heck, the last new release PS2 game that I bought was in 2010 (Sakura Wars V) and the last PS2 game in Japan was released in 2013 (Final Fantasy XI: Seekers of Adoulin). I doubt the 360 will see that kind of support, but it would be kind of fun to see.
microsoft said like a year or so after 360 release that they made mistake in not allowing companys to keep support xbox. With the length of dev times for games i would not be shocked if we get last gen only games until at least late 2015.

 
You're forgetting that the PlayStation 3 will continue to sell millions of consoles for the next 5-7 years---consoles that are now profitable for Sony. The 360 will be obsolete in a year and its sales numbers will be a non factor.

So yes... a bad start to the PS3... in which it launched a year after the 360... but it's longevity and finish will be 10x better.
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I don't even have to say anything else. You are obviously trolling, or blinded by fanboy rage. GTFO.

 
You're forgetting that the PlayStation 3 will continue to sell millions of consoles for the next 5-7 years---consoles that are now profitable for Sony. The 360 will be obsolete in a year and its sales numbers will be a non factor.

So yes... a bad start to the PS3... in which it launched a year after the 360... but it's longevity and finish will be 10x better.
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Microsoft themselves have quit supporting the 360 long ago, what was the last major release for it?  Gears Judgement?  With small releases like Zoo Tycoon, Max, and Spartan Assault since?  But with games like Borderlands 1.5 coming out the system is still going to sell.  Microsoft would be smart to even redesign the 360 into some sort of set top appliance like Apple TV.  But yeah the PS3 has big games like Drakengard 3, Tales of Xillia 2, Tales of Zesteria, and Persona 5 coming along with Borderlands 1.5, so the tail on the PS3 looks to be longer than that of the 360 which is what I think GBAstar was trying to say? *shrug*

 
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since when is jrpg's big games ?  microsoft did not even allow most comapnys to make games for xbox after 360 was released that is not going to happen this time around.  I don't think ps3/360 life will be long like people think. The amount of money it cost to build games this day and age will make companys pick to make games for x1/ps4 or all systems. We are already seeing major AAA games getting next gen only games like batman and a.c this fall.

 
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Microsoft has a bad habit of not supporting their old hardware after the new one is released. The Xbox 360 does seem like it will be different especially since they just made a new revision to the hardware not too long ago, but we'll see. I hope you're right and I think it's likely given how popular the console was in North America.
LOL, they had to stop supporting the original Xbox, it was bleeding them money because it was their first attempt into the console market. I think they did pretty good if you ask me and yeah pretty sure they learned a few things along the way. There's about 80 M people with the Xbox 360s out there, why would they stop supporting it. Obviously they're gonna push Xbox One stuff but that doesn't equal you have a 360, what's that!?

To go along with what you said Fear yeah I wish we had more audio options mainly being able to play MP3s on our system networked to our PC. This is what I do with my Xbox 360 and it often times is a pain to go through the options to turn the music off if I'm listening to music on my theater speakers setup from my PC.

 
Microsoft themselves have quit supporting the 360 long ago, what was the last major release for it? Gears Judgement? With small releases like Zoo Tycoon, Max, and Spartan Assault since? But with games like Borderlands 1.5 coming out the system is still going to sell. Microsoft would be smart to even redesign the 360 into some sort of set top appliance like Apple TV. But yeah the PS4 has big games like Tales of Xillia 2, Tales of Zesteria, and Persona 5 coming along with Borderlands 1.5, so the tail on the PS3 looks to be longer than that of the 360 which is what I think GBAstar was trying to say. *shrug*
JRPG's aren't really big games to be fair and that's probably the reason they aren't on the 360 since they have a very niche audience. Borderlands prequel is coming to Xbox 360 so I don't know why you mentioned it.

 
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Also I noticed you said "Microsoft themselves stopped supporting the 360". Can you link us some games that Sony is going to be releasing for the PS3 exclusively? I just did a quick search on Gamestop and I couldn't find any prerelease titles published by Sony.

 
Microsoft themselves have quit supporting the 360 long ago, what was the last major release for it? Gears Judgement? With small releases like Zoo Tycoon, Max, and Spartan Assault since? But with games like Borderlands 1.5 coming out the system is still going to sell. Microsoft would be smart to even redesign the 360 into some sort of set top appliance like Apple TV. But yeah the PS4 has big games like Tales of Xillia 2, Tales of Zesteria, and Persona 5 coming along with Borderlands 1.5, so the tail on the PS3 looks to be longer than that of the 360 which is what I think GBAstar was trying to say. *shrug*
Did you look at earning report they released this morning? PS3 sales have fallen off the cliff. The same holds true with the 360. Lots of folks on GAF commented on how precipitous the decline has been. I would say Sony would be lucky to move another 10M units over the rest of its lifetime.
 
JRPG's aren't really big games to be fair and that's probably the reason they aren't on the 360 since they have a very niche audience. Borderlands prequel is coming to Xbox 360 so I don't know why you mentioned it.
I mentioned it for both systems..? And this attitude that all games need to have mass appeal is why people dislike Microsoft in the first place. These niche games as you call them are still important especially to diversifying your library. And the Persona series is getting up to Final Fantasy appeal, so don't be so quick to shrug it off.

 
I mentioned it for both systems..? And this attitude that all games need to have mass appeal is why people dislike Microsoft in the first place. These niche games as you call them are still important especially to diversifying your library. And the Persona series is getting up to Final Fantasy appeal, so don't be so quick to shrug it off.
jrpg's are more on ps3 because sony is a japan company and their systems are huge in japan. So to make it look like microsoft don't want those games on their system is nonsense.

 
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Also I noticed you said "Microsoft themselves stopped supporting the 360". Can you link us some games that Sony is going to be releasing for the PS3 exclusively? I just did a quick search on Gamestop and I couldn't find any prerelease titles published by Sony.
I said stopped supporting long ago, keywords there. The releases really started slowing down in 2011, where Sony on the other hand released several last fall including Ratchet and Clank into the nexus, beyond 2 souls, puppeteer, and Gran Turismo 6. And if we include all of 2013 this list gets even better. Sure they are now likely done as well, but that is major support right up to the release of the successor. Imagine had they pushed those to the PS4 like Microsoft did with Ryse, Dead Rising 3, and Crimson Dragoon.

 
Good JRPGs on the 360:

Blue Dragon

Lost Odyssey

Enchanted Arm

Tales of Vesperia

Eternal Sonata

Final Fantasy XIII-2

Infinite Undiscovery

are just a few I can think off the top of my head.

 
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I don't even have to say anything else. You are obviously trolling, or blinded by fanboy rage. GTFO.
Cute but the truth is that Sony will sell MILLIONS of Playstation 3 consoles over the next 5-7 years. They have markets that are just exploding such as in South America and they will continue to move units. You're an idiot if you think otherwise. The PSP is far beyond its prime and it still sells. The PS2 sold MILLIONS of units long after the PS3 was released in global markets.

There is a big world outside your basement.

Edit: I am willing to be that between now and 2020 the PS3 outsells the Xbox 360 4:1 worldwide. Most likely won't even be that close.

 
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Good JRPGs on the 360:

Blue Dragon

Lost Odyssey

Enchanted Arm

Tales of Vesperia

Eternal Sonata

Final Fantasy XIII-2

Infinite Undiscovery

are just a few I can think off the top of my head.
Great list, and sadly most of those were released prior to 2010 (coincidently?) when the 360 became more casual focused.

 
Cute but the truth is that Sony will sell MILLIONS of Playstation 3 consoles over the next 5-7 years. They have markets that are just exploding such as in South America and they will continue to move units. You're an idiot if you think otherwise. The PSP is far beyond its prime and it still sells. The PS2 sold MILLIONS of units long after the PS3 was released in global markets.

There is a big world outside your basement.

Edit: I am willing to be that between now and 2020 the PS3 outsells the Xbox 360 4:1 worldwide. Most likely won't even be that close.
PS3 sales have been coming to a huge halt as Sony's records have shown. Also you're delusional if you think it'll be a 4: 1 gap. The Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3 and it's still selling very well, I'm pretty sure it was the top selling console in the US for a very long time. Being cheaper than the PS3 will help give it more marketability to those exploding markets you mentioned.

PSP is barely selling well, and it's hard to say good sales = success since that system was a pirating nightmare and is still pirated today.

 
Cute but the truth is that Sony will sell MILLIONS of Playstation 3 consoles over the next 5-7 years. They have markets that are just exploding such as in South America and they will continue to move units. You're an idiot if you think otherwise. The PSP is far beyond its prime and it still sells. The PS2 sold MILLIONS of units long after the PS3 was released in global markets.

There is a big world outside your basement.

Edit: I am willing to be that between now and 2020 the PS3 outsells the Xbox 360 4:1 worldwide. Most likely won't even be that close.
yes ps3 will still be selling in 2020 when if there is a next gen of systems it will be around that time.

if this was me doing this in ps4 thread gbastar would be chewing my head off right now. hey gbastar you now have ZERO room to bash anyone on your beloved ps4 forum after this trolling act.

 
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PS3 sales have been coming to a huge halt as Sony's records have shown. Also you're delusional if you think it'll be a 4: 1 gap. The Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3 and it's still selling very well, I'm pretty sure it was the top selling console in the US for a very long time. Being cheaper than the PS3 will help give it more marketability to those exploding markets you mentioned.

PSP is barely selling well, and it's hard to say good sales = success since that system was a pirating nightmare and is still pirated today.
The PS3 is outselling the 360 by 50% or more most weeks (globally). That will only continue. And those markets WILL NOT buy a region restricted piece of hardware.

We will probably get one more wave of 360 bundles this holiday season and that is it but MS is done for now. Sony just released one a week or two ago.

You really have no idea of how much better Sony consoles sell outside the U.S., especially in emerging markets, if you think it'll be anywhere close. Sony will profit of PlayStation 3 hardware and software sales for years to come.

yes ps3 will still be selling in 2020 when if there is a next gen of systems it will be around that time.

if this was me doing this in ps4 thread gbastar would be chewing my head off right now. hey gbastar you now have ZERO room to bash anyone on your beloved ps4 forum after this trolling act.
What am I doing? I'm not stretching any truths. You're getting all anal hurt because I merely stated that Sony will support the PlayStation 3 much longer then MS will support the 360 and the PlayStation 3 will sell much better moving froward then the 360 will sell. It has already been doing that the past few years (hence why it has finally surpassed 360 sales globally despite a year head start by MS).

If you disagree with any of that you're a bigger moron then I thought.

It just makes me laugh that everyone loves to point out the "failure" that was the PS3 launch, how it ruined Sony during that generation but they fail to see how longterm the PS3 prospered and will continue to do so globally for at least another year or two.

If that wasn't true that how the hell did the PlayStation 3 system end up selling more units then the 360[in a shorter period of time]? I mean... since the 360 was such a marvel of engineering and sold soooooooooooo well?

 
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i think it's time we get some mods in here to clean up this thread no joke. gbastar remember this is xbox one thread not a hey ps3 outsells 360.  enough is enough gbastar 

 
I'm just going to officially ignore you. The deals section as an Xbox One thread you can go troll in but don't come and do it in this section.
It is very adult of you to ignore me.

i think it's time we get some mods in here to clean up this thread no joke. gbastar remember this is xbox one thread not a hey ps3 outsells 360. enough is enough gbastar
It is very adult of you to cry to the mods.

 
If anything the conversation is slightly off topic, but has seemed pretty healthy at least until Timbo brought up the other thread.  Definitely doesn't look like something that needs mod intervention.

 
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If anything the conversation is slightly off topic, but has seemed pretty healthy at least until Timbo brought up the other thread. Definitely doesn't look like something that needs mod intervention.
No this topic isn't healthy. This is you and GBAstar fanboying about Sony and the PS4 in this forum and this isn't the first time this thread has gotten derailed by either of you.

 
No this topic isn't healthy. This is you and GBAstar fanboying about Sony and the PS4 in this forum and this isn't the first time this thread has gotten derailed by either of you.
What fanboying has been done? And how long ago was the PS4 even mentioned? We have been talking about last gen consoles both 360 and PS3 equally. Your perception is borderline insanity.smh

 
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What fanboying has been done, and how long ago was the PS4 even mentioned. We have been talking about last gen consoles both 360 and PS3 equally. Xbot perception is borderline insanity.
"Xbot" there you go flaming again you admit you're talking about the PS3 when this isn't the forum for that. Just scrolled back to last page and all I've seen from your posts are you complaining about the Xbox One in some and and comparing it to Sony's handling of the PS4. You also started talking about how the Xbox 360 has no future compared to the PS3 out of the blue and have since been hammering the sales numbers argument home.

 
"Xbot" there you go flaming again you admit you're talking about the PS3 when this isn't the forum for that. Just scrolled back to last page and all I've seen from your posts are you complaining about the Xbox One in some and and comparing it to Sony's handling of the PS4. You also started talking about how the Xbox 360 has no future compared to the PS3 out of the blue and have since been hammering the sales numbers argument home.
I realized that saying Xbot was being fanboyistic and quickly (not quickly enough apparently) edited it. Anyway, you love to twist words and put words in other people's mouths don't you. I wasn't the one who brought up the longevity of the 360, I merely commented on it after it was already a topic. And since you're going back you will see the last real mention of the PS4 was by your buddy Timbo and a typo by me which I meant PS3.

 
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Nothing better than a thread with some timbo in it and trying to read his 4th grade level writing.

Pretty entertaining stuff fellas, keep it going.

Here, I'll help continue the debate.

The Wii U will surpass the xbox one in sales, Nintendo is going to make a major comeback.

Nintendo for life!

 
I realized that saying Xbot was being fanboyistic and quickly (not quickly enough apparently) edited it. Anyway, you love to twist words and put words in other people's mouths don't you. I wasn't the one who brought up the longevity of the 360, I merely commented on it after it was already a topic. And since you're going back you will see the last real mention of the PS4 was by your buddy Timbo and a typo by me which I meant PS3.
Not buddies first off, and I don't twist anything. You keep saying that but aren't saying what I'm twisted just saying that I am doing it. So you either don't know what it means or just want to try and use big words to hope they stick.

 
i just love how these sony fanboys never say anything about how they jump  anyone that bashes sony on their threads but yet it's ok for them to do the same here. 

 

Not buddies first off, and I don't twist anything. You keep saying that but aren't saying what I'm twisted just saying that I am doing it. So you either don't know what it means or just want to try and use big words to hope they stick.
I did mention what you did, you put words in my mouth saying I started the 360 longevity conversation when I didn't. And you twisted what I said about the 360s future, as well as brought up sales numbers which I haven't done at least recently.

 
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