The 2013/2014 NBA Thread (LBJ is a Cav)

Anthony Morrow signing with the Thunder. Really nice pick up.

Edit: Reportedly 3 year $10+ million contract.

 
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Since Melo is staying, he better not ever bitch about losing again, since the Knicks aren't making the playoffs this year or maybe the next. Might better better off for the bulls that melo didnt choose them.  they now can go after more than just 1 piece. Gasol & Stephenson  sounds better than just melo.

 
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renique46 said:
Since Melo is staying, he better not ever bitch about losing again, since the Knicks aren't making the playoffs this year or maybe the next. Might better better off for the bulls that melo didnt choose them. they now can go after more than just 1 piece. Gasol & Stephenson sounds better than just melo.
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There's belief that Melo figured he could take the money now and force a trade later if things don't turn out well. Which is funny cause if he wants out 2-3 years from now he won't get it with the size of his contract and most likely, decline of his game.

 
I figured he could be pulling a Denver again.

Speaking of which, how cheap is Reinsdorf,  they're trying to sign and trade boozer and gonna end up letting the amnesty expire next week LOL

 
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There's belief that Melo figured he could take the money now and force a trade later if things don't turn out well. Which is funny cause if he wants out 2-3 years from now he won't get it with the size of his contract and most likely, decline of his game.
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If he thinks he's going to win a staring contest against the Zen Master he should get his head checked.

 
renique46 said:
Since Melo is staying, he better not ever bitch about losing again, since the Knicks aren't making the playoffs this year or maybe the next. Might better better off for the bulls that melo didnt choose them. they now can go after more than just 1 piece. Gasol & Stephenson sounds better than just melo.
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The East got good without me knowing? Knicks won 54 games with a bad team, they'll make the playoffs this year.
 
And then proceeded to win 37 the next year. If they do make it they're a bottom 7-8 at best. Off the top of my head i can name about 7 teams way better than the knicks. Hell 1-8 from this years playoffs are all better.

 
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I don't see the Knicks making the playoffs. 8 teams that are better than the Knicks: Raptors, Nets, Bulls, Pacers, Cavs, Hawks, Hornets, Wizards. There's also other teams that could be better: Detroit with Stan Van Gundy, Miami with just Wade and Bosh, and Orlando with their young talent. The Knicks are far from a sure thing for making the postseason.

 
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I don't see the Knicks making the playoffs. 8 teams that are better than the Knicks: Raptors, Nets, Bulls, Pacers, Cavs, Hawks, Hornets, Wizards. There's also other teams that could be better: Detroit with Stan Van Gundy, Miami with just Wade and Bosh, and Orlando with their young talent. The Knicks are far from a sure thing for making the postseason.
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Exactly, you named all the teams I was gonna name specially since 2 of those teams made the playoffs without their best player in Brooklyn and Atl. Even the Heat after losing lebron still wont be any type of bottom feeder. Hell i was gonna do a maybe on Detroit and completely forgot about Stan so that possibility goes up tremendously.

 
zyk said:
There's belief that Melo figured he could take the money now and force a trade later if things don't turn out well. Which is funny cause if he wants out 2-3 years from now he won't get it with the size of his contract and most likely, decline of his game.
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Salary cap is going to be 80 million in like 2 years. Its a movable contract.
 
Paul Pierce to the Wizards. Two-year, $11M deal

Trevor Ariza back to the Rockets. Four-year, $32M

Jazz match Four-year, $64M offer sheet on Gordon Hayward. 

Suns, Hawks and Heat in the running for Deng

 
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Pierce to Wizards was a big surprise. Its a good move by Washington though, they could use some veteran leadership and Pierce is still a decent player.

 
The Rockets will let Parsons go to the Mavs. 

Must suck to be a Rockets fan, they went from possible super team to a borderline playoff team. Still a long off-season, but they have nothing outside of Harden and Dwight atm. They basically traded Lin, Asik, Parsons and a 1st round pick for Trevor Ariza.

 
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zyk said:
The Rockets will let Parsons go to the Mavs.

Must suck to be a Rockets fan, they went from possible super team to a borderline playoff team. Still a long off-season, but they have nothing outside of Harden and Dwight atm. They basically traded Lin, Asik, Parsons and a 1st round pick for Trevor Ariza.
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Parsons is a solid player, but he's not worth 15 million. He'll be 26 when the season starts - he's probably not going to get better than he is now. Harden and Dwight form a solid nucleus, Beverley might actually shoot more, and the Rockets will be in decent position to make a move in 2015-16, when the cap jumps.

Where Houston messed up was not exercising their option to keep Parsons for under a million for next season.

 
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Feeding the Abscess said:
Parsons is a solid player, but he's not worth 15 million. He'll be 26 when the season starts - he's probably not going to get better than he is now. Harden and Dwight form a solid nucleus, Beverley might actually shoot more, and the Rockets will be in decent position to make a move in 2015-16, when the cap jumps.

Where Houston messed up was not exercising their option to keep Parsons for under a million for next season.
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I agree with this, even as a Mavs fan. Parsons is set to make $14.7 mil, $15.37 mil, $16.02 mil (player option on third year) with 15% trade kicker. I have every reason to be upset at this move...but I'm not. Given the current situation at SF in free agency, with Deng and Ariza (who are both 3 years older than Parsons and at their peak) off the market, it is an absolute must to sign him or else it's another year of depending on Matrix to play big minutes. The other option was Lance Stephenson but then we'd be small at the 2 and the 3...I'll take it.

The Mavs and Rockets are still talking a potential sign and trade though, which will give them a trade exception in return. Unsure if the league will let them but we'll see.

Oh. And we got our backup SF...Richard Jefferson...woopty do. :nottalking:

 
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Lol @ teams that over payed for Parsons,Hayward and Marvin fucking Williams.
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The Hayward deal is dumb. The Jazz could have saved 10 million if they hadn't held firm at 12 and just gave him 13.

The Parsons deal isn't all that bad in context. He is probably a 12 million dollar player. With the rise in the cap, the need to stop the Rockets from matching, and the lack of SF out there, it makes sense that players like Parsons are going to get overpaid. The Mavs needed someone who could space the floor after losing Calderon and Parsons is really the only good fit.

If Mo Williams takes the room exception Dallas should have a fairly good team next year.

 
@kdiddy, Casey:

I agree, the Parsons deal isn't bad for the Mavs. He's a good fit for the roster, they're looking to compete now, and there weren't really any other options available to them. It's alright to overpay in some instances, especially in this one, since Nowitzki is making several million less per year than he would on the open market. Makes much more sense for Dallas to make this move than Houston, considering Houston could have had him for around 800k this season.

 
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renique46 said:
Still no word on Marion?
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Just that he doesn't want to be a backup so he's leaving Dallas...I figure he just started looking around when word on the Parsons offer broke. Nothing yet as far as interests but he should have a few contenders interested in him.

Dallas and the Wizards are discussing sign and trade for Dejuan Blair...meaning he didn't want to sign for the minimum with the Mavs. Bummer. What he lacks in size, he more than makes up with hard work and energy. Whether it's a trade exception or cash, we're not expected to get any players in return

Detroit signed Caron Butler (2yr/9 mil) and DJ Augustin (2yr/6mil). Couple nice pickups by the Pistons.

 
Here's the deal with my Rockets. Was this offseason a disaster? Yes because we didn't get that 3rd star but it isn't the end of the world. Should Rockets fans be mad? sure I guess (I'm Not) 

Let's get this Parsons thing out of the way. Would I have loved to keep him? Yes.  Did I want the Rockets to match? No, only if we got Bosh would I have said Yes. $15 mill is just too much for us plus he couldn't be traded until Dec and then he had a trade kicker. The big thing was that player option for the third year. I understand why Morey wouldn't match it. He fits Dallas perfectly. You'll love him kdiddy, great guy and fun player to watch. RFA players have to get overpaid if the team offering is trying to pry him away. If Dallas offers 3 yr $36, Houston matches that. Yea not exercising the option was a bad idea but he would have left next year as a UFA. We just lost him a year earlier while getting a good replacement. There wouldn't have been no Ariza next year and we probably would have been capped out and not afford a replacement.

ASIK was gone no matter what and everybody knew it. He didn't want to be a backup so it was only matter of time. This is what we got for him in a 3 team s&t with Wiz and Pelicans 

Rockets haul in Asik deal: Trevor Ariza, 2015 Pelicans 1st rd pk; Alonzo Gee ($3M NG'teed) Pelicans: Asik Casspi and Wizards get $8.5 TPE

Lin well yea he had to go but we did get something for him. He was gone regardless of those reports stating we keep him if we don't land a star. That was bs. We would have probably held him a little longer but Morey thought he had Bosh so he jumped the gun on the trade. The only way to move him was throwing in a pick as a sweetener so giving up a first shouldn't be a surpirse to no one. This wasn't bad for us because we got a $8.4mill TPE from the trade. That's huge

Ariza, I love it. Plain and simple. 7 million cheaper than Parsons. He can play D and hit threes, and that's what really matters for us. It is a downgrade but it softens the blow of losing Parsons. He also fits the team better than he did in 09. Was asked to be the guy then now he's just asked to play great D hit open 3's

The Rockets are in a good place to make moves at the deadline or even before the season starts. We still have to fill out the bench obviously but we'll be fine. We still have our full MLE ($5.3 mill), and the TPE($8.4 mill) from Lin trade. Only reason this was a disappointment because we went swinging for the fence and struck out for a star.

So after everything this is what went down: Asik, Lin, Casspi, 1st round pick, and Parsons for TPE($8.4 mill), Alonzo Gee($3 mill non guaranteed, he will be waived or thrown in a trade), Ariza, and Pelicans 2015 1st (top 3 and 20-30 protected. Our pick if it is 4-19) 

Final word: I'm not losing any sleep over this, we are still in a good spot. People looking at us like we shredded the whole team and are destined to be shit. Pat, Harden, Ariza, Jones, and Howard is still a pretty good starting 5. The same starting 5 as last year minus Parsons add Ariza. Asik and Lin weren't part of our plans going forward anyways. Asik and Lin aren't huge losses as everyone would think especially considering Asik barely played last season

tl;dr Rockets will be fine even after letting Parsons go

 
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Houston will continue to be the west version of the Atlanta Hawks.  Make postseason, get exposed like Harden did, watch Mchale fail at plays, and overall not do anything  worth a damn. Specially if shit like this happens:

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Then we will all be like this:

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Mchale is horrible and James Harden is terrible on defense nothing new here. Although Harden can show flashes of playing good D if he wants to as we saw in OKC but he doesn't want to and McHale is really bad at everything. The fact that he's still the coach is mind boggling. As for being the Hawks of the West, that isn't going to happen.

Also - sorry about that long ass post above guys. I needed to get that out of my system. You can only post so much on Twitter where everybody is an idiot. 

 
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Anthony Bennett and Andrew Wiggins have been playing well during their Summer League games, so I hope that translates into a good start for both this season.

 
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Mchale is horrible and James Harden is terrible on defense nothing new here. Although Harden can show flashes of playing good D if he wants to as we saw in OKC but he doesn't want to and McHale is really bad at everything. The fact that he's still the coach is mind boggling. As for being the Hawks of the West, that isn't going to happen.

Also - sorry about that long ass post above guys. I needed to get that out of my system. You can only post so much on Twitter where everybody is an idiot.
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the only reason mchale still has a job in the nba as a coach, is because his connections and from his days as a player. and he was a horrible gm for minnesota, other than drafting kevin garnnet.

 
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kickrockz713 said:
Also - sorry about that long ass post above guys. I needed to get that out of my system. You can only post so much on Twitter where everybody is an idiot.
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Don't be sorry. I like reading a fan's analysis on their team (and just the game in general) as long as it's fair criticism/praise and not biased "Refs this, refs that" comments for negative results or bandwagon type comments for success.

John Salmons is now a Pelican.

 
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CaseyRyback said:
With what? They have gutted their roster of most of the quality trade pieces already.
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We don't have nothing besides Pelicans 1st round pick 4-19 unprotected, Patrick Beverley, and T Jones that are worth trading. Not even close to enough to pry Rondo from Danny Ainge. I know it isn't enough for Love, especially since Flip is asking for the world in return. A third team could get involved but both highly unlikely to happen.

YBX87 said:
the only reason mchale still has a job in the nba as a coach, is because his connections and from his days as a player. and he was a horrible gm for minnesota, other than drafting kevin garnnet.
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That and the team wants to keep him around to keep working with Dwight on his post moves. Which is stupid to me because we have Hakeem that'll do that shit for free.

 
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kickrockz713 said:
We don't have nothing besides Pelicans 1st round pick 4-19 unprotected, Patrick Beverley, and T Jones that are worth trading. Not even close to enough to pry Rondo from Danny Ainge. I know it isn't enough for Love, especially since Flip is asking for the world in return. A third team could get involved but both highly unlikely to happen.

That and the team wants to keep him around to keep working with Dwight on his post moves. Which is stupid to me because we have Hakeem that'll do that shit for free.
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danny ainge has been dangling rondo for years. i highly doubt any team will trade for rondo due to ainge's asking price. unless a team like new york with james dolan as owner, when they traded for carmelo anthony. lol

 
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Dirk re-signed 3 year $25 million.
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Just over 8 mil a year.. He took a 14 million dollar pay cut and didn't even talk to teams who wanted to pay him more..what a champ.

Carlos Boozer has been amnestied by the Bulls.

 
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Wonder if the Lakers will put in a bid on Boozer to bolster their front line for a year. Still have room until Young and Hill sign their contracts.

Just need some warm bodies to suit up and hit the floor.

He's gonna get some bids, though, and who knows how the Lakers will feel about spending money on the guy. A front line of Randle, Hill, Sacre, and Kelly doesn't instill a lot of confidence but I guess I should accept that as the new norm for the next year or two.

 
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Stephenson to the Hornets for 3 years 27 million.  He will make $200,000 more per year but it's a shorter contract than what Indy was offering.  Not sure if should be relieved or disappointed.

 
Invicta 61 said:
Stephenson to the Hornets for 3 years 27 million. He will make $200,000 more per year but it's a shorter contract than what Indy was offering. Not sure if should be relieved or disappointed.
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He's hoping to cash in after his 2nd year by opting out. I like the fit for the Hornets though.
 
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NVM- it is a team option, yea I don't understand either then lol. He felt disrespected by the Pacers but took something similar with less years. Taking a big risk with that one

 
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If they really wanted to keep him, you would think fewer years wouldn't make a difference.  Especially since George and Hill are the only ones on the books in two years.

 
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