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It was good to see the Bills get another win, I just wish they'd get a little more respect in the media. They're a solid team with a great rookie QB.

Trent Edwards has fantastic pocket presence. If he stays healthy he's going to mature into an elite QB fast.
 
Cleveland just missed a 54 yard FG. Washington WINS! Pulling it out of our asses once again.

EDIT: If you want to see an awesome College Football tackle like you've never seen before, look at my blog post.
 
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[quote name='FriskyTanuki']:lol: Oakland screwed themselves out of an easy win.[/QUOTE]

And got the hard win. Yet strangely I still feel empty and hollow inside...
 
fuck the NFL. I am so sick of this shit. They need to grow some balls and actually get a handle on this.

Ike Hillard took yet another helmet to helmet hit and was unconscious for a while before getting up and being carted off.

They need to be harsh on it to prevent these dumbass defensive guys for killing offensives guys. Hell you are all ready allowed to blind side people and delivery huge hits you can belly flop until to peopel who are already clearly on the ground....all they ask is that you dont lead with your dumbass helmet so you dont actually kill the ball carrier.

Teach these idiots how to tackle the right way or suspend them for 1 games for first offense then 5 then the season. Its not rocket science lower your damn shoulder.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']fuck the NFL. I am so sick of this shit. They need to grow some balls and actually get a handle on this.

Ike Hillard took yet another helmet to helmet hit and was unconscious for a while before getting up and being carted off.

They need to be harsh on it to prevent these dumbass defensive guys for killing offensives guys. Hell you are all ready allowed to blind side people and delivery huge hits you can belly flop until to peopel who are already clearly on the ground....all they ask is that you dont lead with your dumbass helmet so you dont actually kill the ball carrier.

Teach these idiots how to tackle the right way or suspend them for 1 games for first offense then 5 then the season. Its not rocket science lower your damn shoulder.[/quote]
I'm with you dude, if they go to such lengths to protect a QB, why not the rest of the players? Instead they'll fine them sometime after the game which does not deliver the message at the same magnitude as immediate discipline. Also, not trying to knock on Hilliard because I didn't agree with the way he was tackled, but he should have gone lower to protect himself, a lot of guys do it, and he's a Veteran player so he should've been aware of that.

Another thing, I didn't agree with Holmgren throwing the challenge flag, it's like a sign of disrespect, just like Al Michaels said, it's adding insult to injury, and the fans sure as hell didn't like it.
 
You're right, they need to properly deal with those kind of hits. But the only solid answer there is by changing the helmets to a softer substance that can absorb damage a lot better than the current helmets. I'm talking about changing the outside substance, not the inside.
 
[quote name='Lord_Kefka']And speaking of fantasy, Chris Johnson is trying to salvage my week but LT is STILL sucking ass. What's up with this?[/QUOTE]

LT has toe/foot issues. For a RB that is NEVER a good thing..
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']I'm with you dude, if they go to such lengths to protect a QB, why not the rest of the players? Instead they'll fine them sometime after the game which does not deliver the message at the same magnitude as immediate discipline. Also, not trying to knock on Hilliard because I didn't agree with the way he was tackled, but he should have gone lower to protect himself, a lot of guys do it, and he's a Veteran player so he should've been aware of that.

Another thing, I didn't agree with Holmgren throwing the challenge flag, it's like a sign of disrespect, just like Al Michaels said, it's adding insult to injury, and the fans sure as hell didn't like it.[/quote]


But in that same sense a veteran defensive player knows how to hit. You cant tell me that guy who has been playing in the NFL for 8-15 years all of a sudden forgot that leading with your helmet is a bad idea.

No one could convince me that these guys are not in full control of their bodies. You know when you are leading with your helmet and most of the time these hits come from when a ball carrier is already being tackled. Most of the time its a guy who is wrapped up and already going down then some douche comes flying out of now where and spears him.

Yes, I know its football, mans game and all that jazz but damn.

This is why I love guys like Brandon Jacobs and Jeremy Shockey, they dont take shit from these guys they will run over your ass and then laugh when you limp off the field because your not used to being hit.
 
[quote name='js1']LT has toe/foot issues. For a RB that is NEVER a good thing..[/quote]

Screw that noise. LDT is and always was over rated and he proves that each times he goes out.

For the supposed "greatest RB of all time" this mofo is more inconsistent than a goth chick on her period.

One week he will rush for 24 yards the next 120 week after than 15 yards. And its always been like that with him. Whenever a team focuses on him he gets shut completely out of the game.

Like I have always said, yes he is a great back but he is the product of a system and nothing more. Which is also proven by the fact that every one of his back ups not only do good but much better than him when they get the chance. Which says LDT is not that special to begin with and more importantly he is old and passed his prime.

Basically SD is like Denver. Any back can go to Denver and rush for a thousand yards. You take a above average back and put them in SD and they will be hit 100 yard games like its pee wee football.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Screw that noise. LDT is and always was over rated and he proves that each times he goes out.

For the supposed "greatest RB of all time" this mofo is more inconsistent than a goth chick on her period.

One week he will rush for 24 yards the next 120 week after than 15 yards. And its always been like that with him. Whenever a team focuses on him he gets shut completely out of the game.

Like I have always said, yes he is a great back but he is the product of a system and nothing more. Which is also proven by the fact that every one of his back ups not only do good but much better than him when they get the chance. Which says LDT is not that special to begin with and more importantly he is old and passed his prime.

Basically SD is like Denver. Any back can go to Denver and rush for a thousand yards. You take a above average back and put them in SD and they will be hit 100 yard games like its pee wee football.[/QUOTE]


You are insane. LT is one of the best RB's that played the game ever. Look at all his stats and accomplishments. Sure he hasn't been really that good this year but he has been playing with an injury. Also your remark of " Whenever a team focuses on him he gets shut completely out of the game." Thats any RB bro, not just LT.

Here are his stats since he came into the NFL.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=2553

28TD's rushing in a Season 31, total for that season. Thats crazy. Show me a better RB in the League.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']You are insane. LT is one of the best RB's that played the game ever. Look at all his stats and accomplishments. Sure he hasn't been really that good this year but he has been playing with an injury. Also your remark of " Whenever a team focuses on him he gets shut completely out of the game." Thats any RB bro, not just LT.

Here are his stats since he came into the NFL.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=2553

28TD's rushing in a Season 31, total for that season. Thats crazy. Show me a better RB in the League.[/quote]


I should just save a LDT argument to a word doc and paste it.

No time to get into now though.
 
looks like Buffalo is for the realz! 5-1 and what a wierd game.

Edwards looked great. All he had to be was efficient and he was and boy Kawika Mitchell was a man child today.
 
Just got back from the Packer game...glad to see the Packer's D finally decided to show up, against one of the best QBs in the league no less.

My fantasy team killed this week too, Portis and the two Johnsons (Chris and Calvin) had monster games, and those three alone should seal the deal.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']looks like Buffalo is for the realz! 5-1 and what a wierd game.

Edwards looked great. All he had to be was efficient and he was and boy Kawika Mitchell was a man child today.[/QUOTE]

Yea Buffalo is for realz dawg! They can only beat teams with losing records. Look at what happened when they played a good team in Ariziona. They got destroyed. Also if you think beating SD made the Bills contenders you're sorely mistaken. Chargers stink this year.
 
jackson and slaton (and finally a. johnson) have done well for me.. even though slaton could of tacked on another td but was stopped at the goal line this week..

im tossing the dallas d as they havent done crap all year..maybe ill go with arizona d.. and my tight ends are sucking
 
QBs:
Drew Brees
Brett Farve
Kyle Orton

RBs:
Brian Westbrook
Steve Slaton
Ryan Grant
Ronnie Brown


WR:
Calvin Johnson
Santonio Holmes
DeSean Jackson
Chris Chambers
Steve Breaston

TE:
Jeremy Shockey

K:
Jason Elam

DEF:
Tampa Bay
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']Yea Buffalo is for realz dawg! They can only beat teams with losing records. Look at what happened when they played a good team in Ariziona. They got destroyed. Also if you think beating SD made the Bills contenders you're sorely mistaken. Chargers stink this year.[/QUOTE]


I agree with ya they arent contenders. I was just really happy :)

Hey, Im just happy we are 5-1 this year. The bills never started off so good but teams that were supposed to be good arent this year. Seattle,Jacksonville,Arizona,San Diego,New England, The Jets,etc..but they happend to suck this year. Not the Bills fault for playing teams that happen to run into some back luck minus Arizona.

I dont think anyone was beating Arizona that day. They were on it. They have the best 3rd down conversion in football. They knocked out our QB, and had the defense on their toes all day. Zona was firing on all cylnders that day. I dont think anyone could beat them that day.

To tell ya the truth, The Bills will and are probably over achieving this season. They have a soft schedule and got lucky with the teams they are playing.
also on top of that, I thought they were going to lose to San Diego because i dont think they bounce back well from bad losses plus Trent is coming back from Post Concussion Syndrome. Thats an injury that you never know how a player will recover from.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']Yea Buffalo is for realz dawg! They can only beat teams with losing records. Look at what happened when they played a good team in Ariziona. They got destroyed. Also if you think beating SD made the Bills contenders you're sorely mistaken. Chargers stink this year.[/quote]

You're entirely wrong. The only two reasons why they lost to Arizona was 1) Trent Edwards was out for the game and 2) Ko Simpson and McGee were both injured, leaving us to depend on rookies like McKelvin in the backfield. Because of this the Bills defensive coach didn't put the kind of pressure needed and blitz the hell out of Arizona like the Jets did the week before. It was a coaching loss, without a doubt.

It's ignorant to say they can only beat losing teams. They beat the Jags in Jacksonville. They beat the Rams who just slaughtered the Cowboys. How much proof do you need? 5-1 isn't good enough for you?

With a healthy Trent Edwards the Bills have a serious chance to taking the AFC East, if you can't see that then you're just living in the past.
 
NFC West and AFC West are horrible.. who do they have left?? Bills have an easy schedule and should make the playoffs.. but they are not that good.
 
[quote name='tokitoki50']You're entirely wrong. The only two reasons why they lost to Arizona was 1) Trent Edwards was out for the game and 2) Ko Simpson and McGee were both injured, leaving us to depend on rookies like McKelvin in the backfield. Because of this the Bills defensive coach didn't put the kind of pressure needed and blitz the hell out of Arizona like the Jets did the week before. It was a coaching loss, without a doubt.

It's ignorant to say they can only beat losing teams. They beat the Jags in Jacksonville. They beat the Rams who just slaughtered the Cowboys. How much proof do you need? 5-1 isn't good enough for you?

With a healthy Trent Edwards the Bills have a serious chance to taking the AFC East, if you can't see that then you're just living in the past.[/QUOTE]

I'll use your stupid argument about the Rams/Cowboys game. Dallas was without 1) Tony Romo ( Leaving the Cowboys with a 40 year old man at QB )2) Pacman Jones 3) Felix Jones.

It's not ignorant to say they can only beat losing teams because it's the truth. The 5 wins the Bills got are all against Losing teams. That shit right there is a fact, not something i'm making up. Also any team can beat any other team on any given day. So your other argument about Dallas Losing to the Rams but the Bills beating the Rams is completely idiotic.

Also I agree the Bills will take the AFC East. Why? Who else will? That why. That's the weakest Division in the AFC.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']I'll use your stupid argument about the Rams/Cowboys game. Dallas was without 1) Tony Romo ( Leaving the Cowboys with a 40 year old man at QB )2) Pacman Jones 3) Felix Jones.

It's not ignorant to say they can only beat losing teams because it's the truth. The 5 wins the Bills got are all against Losing teams. That shit right there is a fact, not something i'm making up. Also any team can beat any other team on any given day. So your other argument about Dallas Losing to the Rams but the Bills beating the Rams is completely idiotic.

Also I agree the Bills will take the AFC East. Why? Who else will? That why. That's the weakest Division in the AFC.[/QUOTE]

but in Dallas's case, they still had Demarcus Ware, Marcus Spears, Jason Witten, Roy Williams the reciever(safety broke his arm), Terrell Owens, Their Pro bowl O-Line, Marion Barber,Terrance Newman, Zach Thomas,Ken Hamlin...thats incredible depth and players at each position. That should have been more than enough to carry them to a win against the Rams. but you are right. anybody can win on sunday.

Again, its not the Bills fault for playing teams with losing records. most of these teams should have winning records like the Jags,Seahawks, and Chargers..but who knew they would play so badly. I sure didnt coming in to the start of the season. Who knew the Cowboys would go in to week 8 at 4-3. I had them at 6-1 going in to the last game of the first half.

So if teams arent good because of who they play than where does that leave the Giants and the Titans. The Titans are running the same kind of schedule as the Bills. the 6 teams they face all have losing records but for some reason nobody takes anything away from them. Same with the Champs. Their Schedule for the first 6 was a cake walk for them so far....and they lost to a team with a losing record like Dallas did this past sunday.

Point is,if basing on schedule and teams that have sucky records, what makes the Bills any less than the Giants or the Titans? Also what makes the AFC East the weakest division. I recall the whole NFC West getting trounced and Arizona only coming out of that diviosn and the AFC West where you have all but 1 team that doesnt suck but the Chargers at 3-4 can still recover. What makes their division better than the AFC East?
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']but in Dallas's case, they still had Demarcus Ware, Marcus Spears, Jason Witten, Roy Williams the reciever(safety broke his arm), Terrell Owens, Their Pro bowl O-Line, Marion Barber,Terrance Newman, Zach Thomas,Ken Hamlin...thats incredible depth and players at each position. That should have been more than enough to carry them to a win against the Rams. but you are right. anybody can win on sunday.

Again, its not the Bills fault for playing teams with losing records. most of these teams should have winning records like the Jags,Seahawks, and Chargers..but who knew they would play so badly. I sure didnt coming in to the start of the season. Who knew the Cowboys would go in to week 8 at 4-3. I had them at 6-1 going in to the last game of the first half.

So if teams arent good because of who they play than where does that leave the Giants and the Titans. The Titans are running the same kind of schedule as the Bills. the 6 teams they face all have losing records but for some reason nobody takes anything away from them. Same with the Champs. Their Schedule for the first 6 was a cake walk for them so far....and they lost to a team with a losing record like Dallas did this past sunday.

Point is,if basing on schedule and teams that have sucky records, what makes the Bills any less than the Giants or the Titans? Also what makes the AFC East the weakest division. I recall the whole NFC West getting trounced and Arizona only coming out of that diviosn and the AFC West where you have all but 1 team that doesnt suck but the Chargers at 3-4 can still recover. What makes their division better than the AFC East?[/QUOTE]

I never said the Giants or the Titans don't suck. The Giants have had an easy schedule as well. The Titans have had it easy as well.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']I never said the Giants or the Titans don't suck. The Giants have had an easy schedule as well. The Titans have had it easy as well.[/QUOTE]

hehe never said you did. That was a comparison i was making in general.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']hehe never said you did. That was a comparison i was making in general.[/QUOTE]

Yea. You are right though. Just the other day before the Buffalo game they mentioned how easy the Bills have had it so far. They even did it with the Giants not too long ago. I have yet to hear them say anything about the Titans, which they should have. I'm guessing it will be soon.

Well actually they did compare the Titans to the 2002 Titans. I remember they went like 14-2 or something and they had a super easy schedule. Just like the Seahawks a couple years back when they went 14-2.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']I'll use your stupid argument about the Rams/Cowboys game. Dallas was without 1) Tony Romo ( Leaving the Cowboys with a 40 year old man at QB )2) Pacman Jones 3) Felix Jones.

It's not ignorant to say they can only beat losing teams because it's the truth. The 5 wins the Bills got are all against Losing teams. That shit right there is a fact, not something i'm making up. Also any team can beat any other team on any given day. So your other argument about Dallas Losing to the Rams but the Bills beating the Rams is completely idiotic.

Also I agree the Bills will take the AFC East. Why? Who else will? That why. That's the weakest Division in the AFC.[/quote]

The Rams/Cowboys comparison was weak, I'll admit that. And I'm not saying that the Bills are a huge NFL powerhouse, but they're a legitimate team, and I think saying otherwise is just undermining their accomplishment so far. There's no reason why they can't beat teams with winning records, they certainly have the depth to do it. It's not their fault that the teams they play have losing records.

But what team do they have to beat in their upcoming schedule for you to accept them as a legit team?
 
I think the majority of the negative attitude throughout the country towards the Bills still stems from their superbowl losses.

They're like the joke of the NFL.
 
AFC east is the weakest divison yet one of the worst teams in the league(bengals) are in the AFC North with the very unproductive browns, struggling ravens who do either very good or very bad and a very hurt Steeler team(great team but prob only a matter a time before injuries catch up to them)

I mean you can make a case for every division being the weakest division, truth of the matter is as a whole no team in the NFL is dominating right now aside from the Titans.

We are so used to seeing the same teams win every week and all of a sudden a team gets blown out and then blows out another team the next week. People say oh Peyton is back to his old form and than this past sunday happens. They write articles saying "No more arguing about if Eli is better than his brother" after the humbling loss to the browns and then he comes back to have a solid showing a week later. An example can used with just about any team in the league!
 
What are you talking about? With the Pats?

The Bills have consistently been looked down upon since the superbowl years, and for the most part with good reason. BUT when the Bills win in the media's eyes it's always because the other team is "looking ahead" or for some other ridiculous reason. They NEVER admit that the Bills played well, it just doesn't happen.

They'll start respecting them when they spank the Browns in monday night football though.
 
the Pats have played the no respect card for years.. The Bills never had the talents.. this year is a good year.. they have some talent.. Lynch is a beast.. but their hardest opponent the whole year was Arizona... maybe NE, but the jury is still out on them...
 
I've had a lot of happy days in my life....banging my ex's sister.....getting drunk with Russel Westbrook....and running away from the Cops at a Victoria Secret...

but none....I repeat.... none ....make me happier than to see Mike Nolan's sorry ass gone.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']I've had a lot of happy days in my life....banging my ex's sister.....getting drunk with Russel Westbrook....and running away from the Cops at a Victoria Secret...

but none....I repeat.... none ....make me happier than to see Mike Nolan's sorry ass gone.[/QUOTE]

Hell yeah. I was so happy when I saw the "breaking news" on ESPN. Hopefully Singletary can turn this team around, though he will definitely need some time.
 
[quote name='DJSteel']NFC West and AFC West are horrible.. who do they have left?? Bills have an easy schedule and should make the playoffs.. but they are not that good.[/quote]
I guess they're horrible, but that doesn't mean that they don't have a good team leading the pack. I imagine Denver's coming out with the AFC West title as they've got after tonight: Miami, Cleveland, Atlanta, Oakland, and New York Jets over the next five weeks after their bye next week. I imagine Arizona will have the easy road to the playoffs if everybody stays healthy and they don't lose the momentum they've got right now.
 
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