2010-2011 NBA Season Thread

Because he can play for an owner who will do whatever it takes to win. He also would be playing for someone who has coveted him for years.

Also Dallas isn't some wasteland. A slashing PG that can create was the only thing that really held them back last year. They had no consistent secondary option in the playoffs and it led to Dirk being doubled constantly. By slashing into the paint he can setup the spot shooters and force teams to change how they play defense. CP3 in Dallas would give that team a shot at a title.

And Dallas is going to appeal to NO because NO can ditch their bad contracts onto Dallas and they can focus on rebuilding the team through the draft.
 
Yeah, you have to think Dallas would have a title or two by now if they could have kept Nash. Adding Paul could get them to the next level if they don't give up too much to get him.
 
I have to agree with Soodmeg on this one. Hornets are going to want more than just expiring contracts and Dallas is a pretty old team. Dirk is already 32. CP3 is going to want to go to Dallas for a window of opportunity for 2-3 years? Even though the Lakers and Thunder are younger and better?

Matt Barnes signes a 2 year 3 millionish contract with the Lakers.


Lakers have the best starting lineup and the best bench. Odom, Ratliff, Barnes and Blake! Damn!
 
Kobe Bryant is 2 months younger than Dirk.

CP3 only wants to go to four teams and the Thunder aren't in the mix and the Lakers are only a fringe possibility. Both teams probably have limited interest because the Thunder have Westbrook, prefer building through the draft, and are going to get killed financially if they bring in superstars to augment a lineup of guys who are going to get paid. The Lakers would have to have something worth trading and they are looking to shed payroll and not take on more. Ain't no one going to want Bynum.

You have to figure that any Paul deal means taking on bad contracts and you don't take on bad contracts and give up young talent. You give up draft picks and salary relief.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Kobe Bryant is 2 months younger than Dirk.[/QUOTE]


And guards are more likely to go longer while big guys are more likely to break down.

Kobe, Bynum, Odom, Gasol, Artest are better and on average several years younger compared to Dirk, Marion, Kidd, Terry and Butler.


Mavs have a pretty good team, I just do not picture CP3 wanting to go somewhere where everybody is over the age of 30 especially when CP3 is only 24. Plus I would think that the Hornets want players to build their team around Collison and not just expiring contracts.

Blazers have Aldridge and Roy among others.
Knicks have Amare, Randolph and Rooster
Magic have Howard and a bunch of other great players.

I never said the Thunder was a possibility. My point was is that the Thunder have the best young core players in the game. That is a championship team in the making. They do not need CP3 to contend. I do not even think CP3 going to the Mavs makes them better than the Thunder.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']I have to agree with Soodmeg on this one. Hornets are going to want more than just expiring contracts and Dallas is a pretty old team. Dirk is already 32. CP3 is going to want to go to Dallas for a window of opportunity for 2-3 years? Even though the Lakers and Thunder are younger and better?

Matt Barnes signes a 2 year 3 millionish contract with the Lakers.


Lakers have the best starting lineup and the best bench. Odom, Ratliff, Barnes and Blake! Damn![/QUOTE]

the heat beg to differ
dwayne wade, lebron james, chris bosh> kobe artest and pau
 
I agree with the Lakers having the most well rounded starting lineup as well. Celtics and Heat have a "Big 3" but the Lakers have the Biggest 1 (Kobe), Big 1 (Gasol), and two Medium 2's (Artest and Bynum). And they have Fisher at PG and Odom coming off the bench.
 
I think you guys are confusing best with tallest.

Since when has Odom been considered anything but widely inconsistent? Bynum? Teams dont gameplan for a guy dress in a suit on the sidelines with a knee brace. Fisher has always been solid but he is old as hell and has become more of a liability than anything else.

Lets not jump the gun here. Kobe and Gasol and Phil Jackson are the reasons why the Lakers do so well. Their cast of marry men are not that great.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']I think you guys are confusing best with tallest.

Since when has Odom been considered anything but widely inconsistent? Bynum? Teams dont gameplan for a guy dress in a suit on the sidelines with a knee brace. Fisher has always been solid but he is old as hell and has become more of a liability than anything else.

Lets not jump the gun here. Kobe and Gasol and Phil Jackson are the reasons why the Lakers do so well. Their cast of marry men are not that great.[/QUOTE]

Odom - I wouldn't consider a guy that averages a double-double from the bench not a valuable asset.
Bynum - 7'0 285lbs and very agile. Most centers can't guard him one-on-one. As much as you claimed he is sidelined, he still played 65 games last season. He is finally having surgery on his bum knee this offseason (i.e. not just draining it) so after recovery he should be good to go the full season.

Guys like this are the reason why Kobe and Gasol don't get double-teamed alot of the time. I think the Lakers are the most solid team in the NBA, especially with offseason acquiring Blake and Barnes.
 
Odom is the NBA's C student. He's happy doing C work and being treated as such, even though he has much more in him than that. I'm going to wait before I can see a full season of Bynum work before I judge. He's always been injured. And D-Fish is a defensive liability but he's got the clutch that the Lakers need sometimes.

And the C's have the big 4 now. Rondo's coming into his own and deserves proper billing. And Perk gets overlooked but he's the reason they can deal with the Bynum's and the Howard's of the league.
 
Sexy pick ups for the Lake Show.

Barnes and Blake add some real depth to the roster while Ratliff adds a big man that can actually contribute something off the bench.

I love budget signings.
 
Being reported that the Hornets want to include Posey into the trade for CP3. So whoever makes the trade, the Hornets want them to take on OK4, Posey and CP3.
 
[quote name='advanced']Anybody else think CP3 is being a cry baby?[/QUOTE]

They got rid of his coach and they constantly trade guys solely based on financial reasons. Dude has no chance to build a contender around him in NO.

Also, the Posey thing has been known about for a while. This is why they are going to end up with a ton of expiring contracts and not much else. Few teams are going to want all those toxic contracts just to bring Paul aboard. You basically are going to have to live over the tax for a long long time because of any deal you strike. They may get one or two players back that are decent, but they are high if they think they are getting salary relief and the ability to rebuild they team in one fell swoop.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']They got rid of his coach and they constantly trade guys solely based on financial reasons. Dude has no chance to build a contender around him in NO.[/QUOTE]

He's the one who signed the contract extension. His fault he's stuck.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5405528

Apparently the Magic are now at the top of Paul's list.

I really can't see the numbers working. Too lazy to look up salaries, but if it has to be Paul, Okafor and Posey that's tough to swing. But maybe Nelson, Carter and Gortat could work in that trade.

If the numbers work, I'd do that in a second. Get's Paul, a much better back up center for Howard--could possibly even start them both and make Orton the back up. Carter leaving means Redick finally gets to start....

But I don't see it happening.
 
chris paul has no right to demand a trade. He is the one that signed the contract with NOH. guy got paid so he needs to shut his mouth and go play basketball.
 
[quote name='advanced']He's the one who signed the contract extension. His fault he's stuck.[/QUOTE]

He signed it after they were the number two seed and it looked like they were committed to winning. Clearly they haven't been committed for the past two years.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']He signed it after they were the number two seed and it looked like they were committed to winning. Clearly they haven't been committed for the past two years.[/QUOTE]

Still his fault when you consider that they were at their peak. Everybody could see it, he should have too. And if he wanted to play with another superstar, he could have done it when his contract was up before. He's just upset that LeBron and his gang didn't invite him to the pow-wow. Now that he knows he won't be winning a championship as the main star of a team, he wants to cry and whine until he gets his way and his way is on a team with another star.

I could care less about free agents hooking up, thats their right, but when you're going bitch and moan your way out of a contract or to get traded, its horrible. Seriously, he made his bed and now he should have to lay in it. Even Kobe said "Either get me help or trade me.", he didn't demand a trade, he was willing to work through it. CP3 should have gotten serious and stayed serious when it mattered most, when they were winning so they could continue to win.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']Those same simple statistics would say Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett are the same way. They couldn't get it done on avg-good teams until the three came together and won. The difference in it all is they wasted years of the career, where Lebron and gang didn't.



The rumor had Nelson being dealt along with Carter for him. Either way though whatever the trade offer was, it was denied earlier so I don't see it happening.

I don't see him moving this offseason to any of his requested teams. Paul wouldn't work in the Lakers system. NY doesn't have anyone worth it to deal for him.[/QUOTE]

You proved yourself wrong with your own words. Allen, Pierce, and Garnett were not the very best in the NBA when they came together. Furthermore, when they got together in 2007 Garnett was 31 years of age, Allen 32, Pierce 30. They're not the top superstars like Lebron and Wade, unless you'd like to prove that they are that is... Show us how the Garnett, Allen, & Pierce of 2007 are as good as Wade and Lebron of 2009 with Bosh's support.

Had Garnett, Allen, & Pierce got together a whole 4 years earlier then it would be similar in tems of age, but still not in terms of player skill.

[quote name='shrike4242']Let's keep it civil in here and dispense with the name calling.[/QUOTE]

Is this in regards to name calling other CAG's or name calling NBA players? I don't know if I missed some discussion that got deleted or if I should not call Lebron a ******.
 
[quote name='J7.']You proved yourself wrong with your own words. Allen, Pierce, and Garnett were not the very best in the NBA when they came together. Furthermore, when they got together in 2007 Garnett was 31 years of age, Allen 32, Pierce 30. They're not the top superstars like Lebron and Wade, unless you'd like to prove that they are that is... Show us how the Garnett, Allen, & Pierce of 2007 are as good as Wade and Lebron of 2009 with Bosh's support.

Had Garnett, Allen, & Pierce got together a whole 4 years earlier then it would be similar in tems of age, but still not in terms of player skill.

[/QUOTE]

If that is what you keep telling yourself, all three were top 20 of the NBA when they came together. Yes, you can say Wade and Bron are top 5 but that still doesn't make that much of a difference in discussion; it is still 3 top NBA superstars getting together and playing together to win championships. All three were still at the top of their game at their age.
KG (last year in Minn) - 22.4pts, 12.8boards, 4.1ass, 1.7blks
Ray Ray (last year in Seattle) - 26.4pts, 4.5boards, 4.2ass
Pierce (prior to the two coming) - 25pts, 5.9boards, 4.1ass

So lets compare...
Wade posted similiar numbers last year to Pierce. (a wash; both had similiar support cast)
Bosh posted similiar numbers last year to KG. (a wash; both had similiar support cast)
Lebron - being that he is the best player since MJ/Magic, of course his numbers would be better than anyone on this list, yet alone anyone in the NBA (kobe and timmy coming up close). Still Ray's numbers that year far exceed most current NBA stars.

You sir as a Celtic fan are a complete hypocrite as you are blind if you didn't realize this happened one time prior which is your current Celtic team. I understand you being mad. There is now a team in the East that is truly on paper better than all the others including your Boston Celtics. Personally, I liked that this happened as it will hopefully cause my team to get some passion and actually play up to their potential (hello Carter and Lewis... yes I am talking about you).
 
[quote name='lordopus99']If that is what you keep telling yourself, all three were top 20 of the NBA when they came together. Yes, you can say Wade and Bron are top 5 but that still doesn't make that much of a difference in discussion; it is still 3 top NBA superstars getting together and playing together to win championships. All three were still at the top of their game at their age.
KG (last year in Minn) - 22.4pts, 12.8boards, 4.1ass, 1.7blks
Ray Ray (last year in Seattle) - 26.4pts, 4.5boards, 4.2ass
Pierce (prior to the two coming) - 25pts, 5.9boards, 4.1ass

So lets compare...
Wade posted similiar numbers last year to Pierce. (a wash; both had similiar support cast)
Bosh posted similiar numbers last year to KG. (a wash; both had similiar support cast)
Lebron - being that he is the best player since MJ/Magic, of course his numbers would be better than anyone on this list, yet alone anyone in the NBA (kobe and timmy coming up close). Still Ray's numbers that year far exceed most current NBA stars.

You sir as a Celtic fan are a complete hypocrite as you are blind if you didn't realize this happened one time prior which is your current Celtic team. I understand you being mad. There is now a team in the East that is truly on paper better than all the others including your Boston Celtics. Personally, I liked that this happened as it will hopefully cause my team to get some passion and actually play up to their potential (hello Carter and Lewis... yes I am talking about you).[/QUOTE]



You can't always spit out stats. Are you implying that Michael Jordan at age 34 was the same player at age 27 even though he had similar stats? Is Lebron James the same player now as he was in his second year in the league? Because the stats are similar.

Kobe might still score his career average of roughly 27 ppg but he is nowhere near as explosive as he was at age 25. LeBron and Wade are literally in their prime years. Garnett clearly was past his prime and already deteriorated his second season in and Allen and Pierce's numbers haven't taken a hit because they are pure shooters who had KG and Rondo to feed them the ball from inside and out. Do you really believe they would generate the same numbers at age 32 and 31 if they were by themselves?

There is a difference between 3 battle worn veterans at the twilight of their prime and 3 superstars in their prime.
 
[quote name='Kendro']You can't always spit out stats. Are you implying that Michael Jordan at age 34 was the same player at age 27 even though he had similar stats? Is Lebron James the same player now as he was in his second year in the league? Because the stats are similar.

Kobe might still score his career average of roughly 27 ppg but he is nowhere near as explosive as he was at age 25. LeBron and Wade are literally in their prime years. Garnett clearly was past his prime and already deteriorated his second season in and Allen and Pierce's numbers haven't taken a hit because they are pure shooters who had KG and Rondo to feed them the ball from inside and out. Do you really believe they would generate the same numbers at age 32 and 31 if they were by themselves?

There is a difference between 3 battle worn veterans at the twilight of their prime and 3 superstars in their prime.[/QUOTE]

You have to be kidding me.

Fact: Paul Pierce. 08-09 All-NBA 2nd team (31 - past "prime"). Your 2009-10 3pt Champion.
Fact: Kevin Garnett. 07-08 Defensive Player of the Year (31 - past "prime"). Top 10 defensive rating past three years.
Fact: Ray Allen. #3 in FT%. Top 10 3Pt shooter.

OK as for your comparisons...
-Jordan - You know he won 3 of his 5 MVP awards from the age of 32-34. :roll:
-Kobe is just as explosive today as he was then (if not better). I don't need to put up clip packages to show you wrong.
-Pierce is actually a way better player than he once was.
-Ray Allen is the same as he ever was.
-KG's injuries have caught up to him but he is still easily top 5 PF in the league, which still tells much about what he still has left in the tank.

Pierce/Ray/Garnett numbers are down due to them now sharing the ball and also the emergence of Rondo. If these guys were on their own teams, their numbers would still be what they were in their "prime" and be in discussions for lots of awards.

You say Lebron and Wade are in prime. What age is that? You do realize Wade is 28 and Bron is 25.

Lastly a question for you.
How does a Boston team that had KG injured the previous year that got beat by Orlando goes to dominant Orlando the next year when KG was healthy? Could it have anything to do with the lock down defense that KG provided when he held Rashard Lewis to little to no touches the whole series? Hmm...;)
 
What the hell are you guys even arguing about?

I read up until I 3 point champion and figured it was a pointless debate. When you start using anything other than all star (hell barely even that) as a point its going all down hill. In the future can we use Horse Champion as a point for a player?
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']What the hell are you guys even arguing about?

I read up until I 3 point champion and figured it was a pointless debate. When you start using anything other than all star (hell barely even that) as a point its going all down hill. In the future can we use Horse Champion as a point for a player?[/QUOTE]

Ok well all three of them have been all-stars the past couple of years.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']You have to be kidding me.

Fact: Paul Pierce. 08-09 All-NBA 2nd team (31 - past "prime"). Your 2009-10 3pt Champion.
Fact: Kevin Garnett. 07-08 Defensive Player of the Year (31 - past "prime"). Top 10 defensive rating past three years.
Fact: Ray Allen. #3 in FT%. Top 10 3Pt shooter.

OK as for your comparisons...
-Jordan - You know he won 3 of his 5 MVP awards from the age of 32-34. :roll:
-Kobe is just as explosive today as he was then (if not better). I don't need to put up clip packages to show you wrong.
-Pierce is actually a way better player than he once was.
-Ray Allen is the same as he ever was.
-KG's injuries have caught up to him but he is still easily top 5 PF in the league, which still tells much about what he still has left in the tank.[/QUOTE]

What's your point? MJ won 3 MVP's at age 32 to 34 because he was the best player compared to other players. How does that show a 34 year old Jordan is the same as a 27 year old Jordan?

Your last comment about KG says it all. By using the words "left in the tank," it basically states his tank is not full and does not have much left, ie. not in his prime.

How is there even an argument that someone from 30 to 34 is still in their prime compared to an athlete from age 25 to 28? A 28 year old KG would torch his older self today. That goes for Ray, Paul, Kobe, Muhammad Ali, and any other athlete in any sport (with the exception of Barry Bonds).
 
[quote name='lordopus99']If that is what you keep telling yourself, all three were top 20 of the NBA when they came together. Yes, you can say Wade and Bron are top 5 but that still doesn't make that much of a difference in discussion; it is still 3 top NBA superstars getting together and playing together to win championships. All three were still at the top of their game at their age.
KG (last year in Minn) - 22.4pts, 12.8boards, 4.1ass, 1.7blks
Ray Ray (last year in Seattle) - 26.4pts, 4.5boards, 4.2ass
Pierce (prior to the two coming) - 25pts, 5.9boards, 4.1ass

So lets compare...
Wade posted similiar numbers last year to Pierce. (a wash; both had similiar support cast)
Bosh posted similiar numbers last year to KG. (a wash; both had similiar support cast)
Lebron - being that he is the best player since MJ/Magic, of course his numbers would be better than anyone on this list, yet alone anyone in the NBA (kobe and timmy coming up close). Still Ray's numbers that year far exceed most current NBA stars.

You sir as a Celtic fan are a complete hypocrite as you are blind if you didn't realize this happened one time prior which is your current Celtic team. I understand you being mad. There is now a team in the East that is truly on paper better than all the others including your Boston Celtics. Personally, I liked that this happened as it will hopefully cause my team to get some passion and actually play up to their potential (hello Carter and Lewis... yes I am talking about you).[/QUOTE]

Hmm top 20 or top 5 with one of them being numero uno... :roll: then factor in age... ya okay :lol:
 
[quote name='advanced']You mistook uno for dos, J7. Kobe is número uno.[/QUOTE]

I would say MVP is numero uno.

[quote name='j7']Hmm top 20 or top 5 with one of them being numero uno... then factor in age... ya okay [/QUOTE]

Whatever. Just keep crying guys. All I was stating was this happened before. Whether they are top 20 or not, they were still at the top of their game at that time when all three came together. At this point, can you guys stop bitching about Lebron and gang in Miami... get over it.:roll:
 
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Court Jester is scared of Paul going to Orlando. Court Jester doesn't want any competition in the East.

"According to a tweet by Cavs beat writer Brian Windhorst of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, LeBron James is advising Chris Paul to seek a trade, but to stay in the Western Conference to keep it competitive.

Paul has two years before he becomes a free agent but has put a plan in motion to force a trade out of New Orleans for the 2010-11 season. He is rumored to be favoring Eastern Conference contenders the Magic and Knicks as future places to play. Paul, also interested in playing for the Lakers in the West, plans to meet with New Orleans executives Monday to discuss his future with the team."
 
[quote name='advanced']He's probably the best athlete, but no way is his Basketball IQ better than Kobe. And regular season MVP don't mean shit.[/QUOTE]


His normal IQ is less than 60. Guy really thinks he can burn Cleveland down to the ground and everything will be a OK after he wins a Championship in Miami.
 
All I'm saying is that IQ can't be put into a statistic. An if you really want to buy into the regular season MVP beauty contest go right ahead.
 
[quote name='advanced']All I'm saying is that IQ can't be put into a statistic. An if you really want to buy into the regular season MVP beauty contest go right ahead.[/QUOTE]

You guys can hate all you will but the results will show this season. One player (yes one player) will cripple the whole Cleveland franchise. Lebron made under achievers better. Hence, why the franchise will go from best record in the NBA to lucky if they even break 35 wins. If Kobe left the Lakers, LA would be fine and still be competitive.
 
It doesn't make Kobe any worse than LBJ. All it means is that LeBron couldn't get the Cavs to put a Laker-like cast around him like Kobe. And I couldn't care less about the Cavs, so who cares?

To say that LeBron is the best player in the league and only use MVP awards to do so is a fallacy. LBJ gets bored watching tapes, Kobe loves to. Kobe puts the work into his game; not his marketing company. Kobe's a winner because he's the best player in the league. List any stats you want, but LBJ gave up and Kobe didn't.
 
[quote name='advanced']It doesn't make Kobe any worse than LBJ. All it means is that LeBron couldn't get the Cavs to put a Laker-like cast around him like Kobe. And I couldn't care less about the Cavs, so who cares?

To say that LeBron is the best player in the league and only use MVP awards to do so is a fallacy. LBJ gets bored watching tapes, Kobe loves to. Kobe puts the work into his game; not his marketing company. Kobe's a winner because he's the best player in the league. List any stats you want, but LBJ gave up and Kobe didn't.[/QUOTE]


Court Jester didn't even bother recruiting for the Cavs. He screwed the team over when they had a ton of opportunities to improve. Free agents and trades didn't want to come because of him not being open about his plans.
 
[quote name='advanced']He's probably the best athlete, but no way is his Basketball IQ better than Kobe. And regular season MVP don't mean shit.[/QUOTE]

The IQ where Kobe jacks up 6 out of 24 shots in Game 7 of the NBA Finals even though it could have cost his team the game? His shot wasn't falling the entire game yet he was too stubborn in trying to win it by himself.

I love Kobe's tenacity and wouldn't want anyone else taking the final shot, but he is stubborn as a mule at times. If someone criticizes that he hogs the ball too much (Charles Barkley) or jacks up too many shots at a low percentage (Phil Jackson), the next game he pouts and takes 5 shots for the entire game.

The one thing I admire most about James' game is probably his IQ. He lets the game and situations dictate his game.

Also, am I the only one that puts MVP's at a high ranking? It does stand for Most Valuable Player. So if Kobe gets a ring as Shaq's sidekick, or Pippen gets a ring as Jordan's sidekick, that is more reputable than Steve Nash or LeBron winning 2 MVP's back to back?
 
[quote name='Kendro']
Also, am I the only one that puts MVP's at a high ranking? It does stand for Most Valuable Player. So if Kobe gets a ring as Shaq's sidekick, or Pippen gets a ring as Jordan's sidekick, that is more reputable than Steve Nash or LeBron winning 2 MVP's back to back?[/QUOTE]

Are you really trying to say Steve Nash is a better player than Kobe? And that Dirk is just as good (they both have 1 MVP)?
 
Dictate his game? Like quitting, right? Yeah. LBJ is a beast at letting the score run his game. When the going gets tough he just silks and pouts until it's over. Kobe doesn't quit, proof being the games the Lakers lost in the finals, they played until the buzzer. I'm not going to say LBJ is number on just because he was the MVP when he quit two years running in the playoffs.

MVP is bullshit. It's voted on, so it's a beauty contest.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']I would say MVP is numero uno.



Whatever. Just keep crying guys. All I was stating was this happened before. Whether they are top 20 or not, they were still at the top of their game at that time when all three came together. At this point, can you guys stop bitching about Lebron and gang in Miami... get over it.:roll:[/QUOTE]

You're wrong so you want us to move on... Why don't you make a comparison from the past, take the number one player and another top 5 player and another top 20 or whatever Bosh is and compare them to a few top 20 players who are all over age 30. You want to start with Jordan, Magic, Bird? Who else do you want to add to the roster?

[quote name='wildcpac']Court Jester is scared of Paul going to Orlando. Court Jester doesn't want any competition in the East.

"According to a tweet by Cavs beat writer Brian Windhorst of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, LeBron James is advising Chris Paul to seek a trade, but to stay in the Western Conference to keep it competitive.

Paul has two years before he becomes a free agent but has put a plan in motion to force a trade out of New Orleans for the 2010-11 season. He is rumored to be favoring Eastern Conference contenders the Magic and Knicks as future places to play. Paul, also interested in playing for the Lakers in the West, plans to meet with New Orleans executives Monday to discuss his future with the team."[/QUOTE]

Stay in the West to keep it competitive says the man who just teamed up with Wade.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Are you really trying to say Steve Nash is a better player than Kobe? And that Dirk is just as good (they both have 1 MVP)?[/QUOTE]

Definitely not.

Also, do people forget that Kobe went through the same thing a few years ago with the Lakers regarding a trade demand after being frustrated that the organization couldn't provide him with a supporting cast?

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=li52iOIFA6M&feature=related
 
[quote name='J7.']Stay in the West to keep it competitive says the man who just teamed up with Wade.[/QUOTE]

So he can take, and possibly win, the East. With the Bulls, Magic, Celtics and Heat in the (prospective) top four, all he wants is another team stealing his thunder.

And as for Kobe wanting to be traded, its understandable. He bitched for a bit but was willing to work through it and make the team he loves better. I can't fault a man for voicing his opinion, but Chris Paul wanting to play with another superstar is different and the only teams he's interested in are already contenders (with the one exception of NY, but I'd like to get halfway into the season to make that call if I could). Kobe wasn't saying "Trade me, but only trade me to this team or this team.", Kobe was using it as a way to get the Laker front office to wake up and realize they might lose their star player. Not as a way to get someone else to shoulder the load.
 
So Chris Paul will make his formal trade request tomorrow. News reports going around are that the Magic feel that they are out of it. I honestly do not picture the Hornets wanting to take on Nelson and Gortat. Nelson because he is paid 21 million for the next 3 years and the Hornets already have Collisson who is better with more upside. Gortat is signed for another 4 years 28 million and is a backup center. Vince Carter has a semi expiring 2011-2012 contract, it's a team option but you have to buy it out for 4 million. By buying it out, the 4 million is a cap hit. Last thing with the Magic, if they were to take on CP3 and OK4, that puts their payroll around $100 million with a 30 million luxury tax bringing it up to $130 million.




The Magic might be on Chris Paul's wish list, but they don't sound very confident of landing him in the near future.

Orlando isn't convinced that New Orleans will be forced into trading Paul and they aren't keen on taking on the contract of center Emeka Okafor.

"Much ado about nothing," is how Magic coach Stan Van Gundy Saturday described the reports of his team being linked to Paul.

"We are only involved in this story because someone said he wants to be traded and someone said he wants to come to Orlando," Van Gundy told FanHouse Sunday. "It's a New Orleans and Chris Paul story."

Magic general manager Otis Smith dismissed the reports as "rumors."



Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...es_make_paul_to_magic_unlikely/#ixzz0ukeNxkTv


TMac is expected to sign with the Bulls tomorrow if a workout goes well.
 
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