2011 MLB Discussion Thread

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[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']You in a four team league or something?[/QUOTE]
6. It sucks. Everyone's team is rostered up like an all star team. You just have to have a hot team to win. Last week I won pitching with a 1.1 ERA and 0.8 WHIP. The other guy had a 1.3 ERA and 1 WHIP.

Never again.
 
The fact that the Yankees are winning with the current pitching they have is blowing my mind. You'd really think the wheels are going to fall off for Garcia at some point. Hughes is doing well pitching in AA today so we'll see who is ready first, him or Colon. Really weird that there's no obvious frontrunner for the title this year. I feel like there are at least 7-8 teams who could legitimately win it.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']The fact that the Yankees are winning with the current pitching they have is blowing my mind. You'd really think the wheels are going to fall off for Garcia at some point. Hughes is doing well pitching in AA today so we'll see who is ready first, him or Colon. Really weird that there's no obvious frontrunner for the title this year. I feel like there are at least 7-8 teams who could legitimately win it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. It looked for a month or so like the Red Sox might run away with things, but their offense has inexplicably fallen back down to earth against NL pitching (though there was certainly nothing inexplicable about Cliff Lee dominating them last night). There are a ton of teams I could see winning it all, which ultimately is good for baseball.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Yeah. It looked for a month or so like the Red Sox might run away with things, but their offense has inexplicably fallen back down to earth against NL pitching (though there was certainly nothing inexplicable about Cliff Lee dominating them last night). There are a ton of teams I could see winning it all, which ultimately is good for baseball.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I have to admit, I'm mildly amused that as soon as I talked about the Red Sox having plenty of time to fall apart, they had a few injuries and started losing games. :) Not that I'm dumb enough to think they won't get hot again. It just follows along with what we were talking about.

Although, as "boring" as the first half of the season has been, it could make for an amazing second half. It would actually be nice for a change if there were a few playoff races going on in the final weeks of the season, compared to most years where 5 out of 6 divisions are wrapped up a month in advance.
 
Its nice that all of the division could go either way, except maybe the NL East. Hopefully teams don't start pulling away in August, could be one of the best seasons in a while.
 
4 Giants going to the All Star game, all pitchers. Cain, Lincecum, Wilson, and ....... VOGALSONG. What a great story for Vogalsong, even if he ends up being a one hit wonder, I still think it's awesome.
 
Alexi Ogando snubbed because players from terribad teams are required to go. Boy, don't I just love the All-Star game.

I think the All-Star Game would be far more enjoyable if fan-voting was removed as well as each team having to be represented. I respect Derek Jeter as a player, but there is no way he should be starting at SS.

Oh, well. The game is going to be dominated by pitching once again. I see a 2-1 or 3-2 for the American League in store for us this year.
 
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I agree that fan voting has to go, there's just too many instances where a player gets snubbed because of people like Jeter being the starting SS for the AL.
 
[quote name='Beatofficer']4 Giants going to the All Star game, all pitchers. Cain, Lincecum, Wilson, and ....... VOGALSONG. What a great story for Vogalsong, even if he ends up being a one hit wonder, I still think it's awesome.[/QUOTE]

None of those guys deserves to be there over Andrew McCutchen. And I love Lincecum. Hanson was snubbed too.

And Beltran over McCutchen... lol.
 
The NL got the pitching really wrong. Hanson and Lohse are the two biggest omissions I see. I know Lohse has cooled down some, but he stepped up in a big way for a Cardinals rotation that wasn't that good after losing Wainwright. They should have made it over all 3 of the Giants pitchers and even Cliff Lee. A great June doesn't make up for a lackluster April and May in my opinion. Even Karstens and Zimmerman should have made it but I can see overlooking them.

As for the AL, David Price? Really? Him over Michael Pineda? Way to fuck that one up.

I also agree 100% on McCutchen, Beltran should not be there over him. And yeah, Jeter shouldn't be anywhere near the All Star Game this year, Asdrubal got hosed big time there for the starting spot.
 
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As for the AL, David Price? Really? Him over Michael Pineda? Way to fuck that one up.[/QUOTE]

What about the AL having Jose Valverde, but not CC Sabathia?

Although CC would have to be replaced anyways for pitching the Sunday before the All-Star.
 
[quote name='Nate Nanjo']What about the AL having Jose Valverde, but not CC Sabathia?

Although CC would have to be replaced anyways for pitching the Sunday before the All-Star.[/QUOTE]

Apples to oranges. Valverde is one of the best closers in the league who is 20/20 so he definitely deserves to be there. CC does deserve it over Price and probably has the edge over CJ Wilson for having more wins, but their other stats are pretty close.
 
Nah, Price has been awesome this season. He's had a weird season in comparison to last; his control has been impeccable, his K rate quite a bit higher, but he's been a little unfortunate with runners in scoring position, whereas last year he had a really low BABIP, high strand rate, meh control, and a good but not great K rate. He deserves to be there.

Including Chris Perez and Brandon League over Pineda was the wrong choice for sure.
 
I thought David Robertson got snubbed. Dude's ERA is 1.05, I don't know how some of those relievers got picked over him. Yeah, the whole "too many Yankees" thing, but still.
 
Maybe. Dude does walk a ton of guys, though. I'm partial to Koji Uehara, Koji gets so many swings and misses it's almost not funny.

Kinda stumped as to why Chipper made it as backup 3B over Aramis. I know it's probably his last opportunity to be named to the team, but still.
 
I'm pretty impressed with how the Braves are playing.

Pitching has been great all year, and now the offense is finally starting to get it going the past couple of weeks. Will be 52-36 after the win tonight.

Future is bright with all the young talent the have as well.
 
Braves won again today to complete a 4 game sweep of the Rockies.

2.5 games behind the Phillies now, and have a 3 game set in Philly starting tomorrow leading into the all star break.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Braves won again today to complete a 4 game sweep of the Rockies.

2.5 games behind the Phillies now, and have a 3 game set in Philly starting tomorrow leading into the all star break.[/QUOTE]
But they are facing Halladay, Lee, and Hamels so I don't think much will change, standings wise.
^Not talking shit
 
Zito is being amazing, I wonder how long this will last? Belt off the DL but sent to Fresno, ugh.

Really wonder if there's going to be any blockbuster deals this year, it really doesn't seem like it.
 
[quote name='Lyricsborn']Anyone hear about the ranger fan falling? Josh Hamilton must feel like a wreck.[/QUOTE]
This was pretty tragic. Condolences to the family.

Man Clayton Kershaw is just amazing to watch. and Dillon Gee needs to stop talking to Mike Pelfrey. This start was the same as the last one. Great pitching through 5 innings all to blow it up an inning later. But hey, i can not complain one bit. 3 of 4 from the Dodgers and probably going to get shut out against 3 all stars. San Fran is going to be tough.
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[quote name='Lyricsborn']Anyone hear about the ranger fan falling? Josh Hamilton must feel like a wreck.[/QUOTE]

Just heartbreaking, especially with the man's son standing right there. I can't even imagine.

I can't imagine how Josh Hamilton must feel, I hope he has a strong support system in place - former addicts have relapsed for far less traumatic events than that must have been.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']But they are facing Halladay, Lee, and Hamels so I don't think much will change, standings wise.
^Not talking shit
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Yeah, I figure best they can hope for is to take 2/3 and even that's tough with those three up against Beachy, Hanson and Lowe.

Shame it didn't work out to be Jurrjens, Hanson and Hudson matched up with their big 3.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Yeah, I figure best they can hope for is to take 2/3 and even that's tough with those three up against Beachy, Hanson and Lowe.

Shame it didn't work out to be Jurrjens, Hanson and Hudson matched up with their big 3.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say that, Beachy has been great this year, maybe even better than Hudson. I'm just hoping Cliff can put his last start against the Jays behind him and get back to June form.
 
Funny you mention Cliff Lee. I'm hoping Cliff Lee returns to the form that we saw when we played him the last couple of times. :D
 
There is no reason the Rangers let that happen after someone fell last year. Hope the family can get a good lawyer
 
[quote name='62t']There is no reason the Rangers let that happen after someone fell last year. Hope the family can get a good lawyer[/QUOTE]


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At the time, the Rangers were told that the railings in front of their seating decks were higher than required in international building codes. They were told that again on Friday but that did not satisfy the Rangers.
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Look, it's tragic that it happened, but the Texas Rangers organization is not at fault here. I'm sure they'll look in to modifications that can be made to the ballpark, but it's not like an usher can physically stop someone from leaning over a rail (within building codes) and losing their balance.
 
I wonder if it'd be possible to put nets in between the wall and where he fell. There's no one that is at fault here. Accident happen, I just hope that Josh Hamilton does not blame himself for what has happened.

Also, to the comment about the lawyer, going to sound like an old man but, that's what's wrong with this country, everyone is so sue happy, even over accidents where there's no one to blame.
 
Nothing like an extra inning game between the 2 best teams in the NL. I'm guessing the next 2 games will be very low scoring and will be decided by one run as well.
 
Wow, so Derek Jeter decided he's going to skip the All Star Game. That's pretty classy if you ask me. The official reason is so he'll "be ready" for the second half of the season, but it seems more likely that even he can recognize he shouldn't have been voted in. But for a guy who is 37 who might not get to ever go again, that's a very honorable move in my opinion. Not sure how many other players would do the same thing.
 
Chipper Jones is on the 15 day DL for knee surgery to repair a torn meniscus.

Not good since Prado is still out with a Staph infection. Hopefully he'll be back soon after the All Star break and can play third for a while like last year.

If Dan Uggla could ever at least get his batting average to .200 or above would be a big help as well!
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I'm disappointed I missed Jeter's 3000th hit. I figured ESPN would do a live look-in, but they're showing the women's World Cup. :roll:[/QUOTE]

I was actually surprised the game wasn't on Fox today. But I was able to find it on MLB Network. Too bad AJ Burnett is pitching this game so it's really not worth watching. I'd rather watch the Jeter HR for three hours than watch that loser try to figure out how to pitch.
 
Braves and Phillies into extra innings again.

And the Braves take this one 4-1 in 11 innings.
 
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[quote name='dmaul1114']Braves and Phillies into extra innings again.

And the Braves take this one 4-1 in 11 innings.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, this has been a good series going by the boxscore. Missed the last two games thanks to work, so hopefully the game tomorrow is on TV. We do get the one Phillies channel sometimes, so maybe...

Of course, pretty sure Lowe goes tomorrow. If so, I should probably not watch as whenever I watch my fantasy players perform, it's like I'm jinxing them somehow.
 
Congrats to Montero for being selected to the All-Star team, well deserved. I still wish Justin Upton was going to be in the HR Derby though.

Good Futures game on right now.
 
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[quote name='n8rockerasu']I was actually surprised the game wasn't on Fox today. But I was able to find it on MLB Network. Too bad AJ Burnett is pitching this game so it's really not worth watching. I'd rather watch the Jeter HR for three hours than watch that loser try to figure out how to pitch.[/QUOTE]

they need to find a way to unload him and bring back Nova up. He is just wallowing away in Triple A.


well 1 out of 3 ill take. Couldnt believe we beat Vogelsong but of course i didnt think we had a chance against Cain and The Freak. Man watching those two pitch is just ridiculous.

this is way late but i was away this weekend. Mad props to Jeter on 3000 and also Mad Props to the Yankees for giving the fan who caught the ball, the business for giving back Jeter's ball. suite seats for the rest of the season and a lux suite for an upcoming series plus autographed Jerseys,Bats, and baseballs.....and a meeting with Jeter. Also props to the fan to since he would just give it back for nothing.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic'] Also props to the fan to since he would just give it back for nothing.[/QUOTE]

I imagine he had an inkling he'd get some pretty nice gifts from them. :D

I think if I had to choose between selling the ball for a couple hundred thousand or getting season tickets, etc, plus the chance not to look like a selfish ass in front of my fellow fans.. I'd do the same thing.
 
Taking 2 out of 3 from the Braves before the break makes me a happy camper. I didn't think the Braves had a chance with Lowe pitching against Hamels.
 
Yeah, I was never a fan of Lowe either. I always saw him as our #4 guy. Honestly, I'm just glad we didn't get swept, although it annoys me we lost that first game that went to extras.
 
[quote name='JStryke']Yeah, I was never a fan of Lowe either. [/QUOTE]

After the 2004 playoffs in which Lowe won the clinching game of every series for the Red Sox, I'm a fan of his for life. He's definitely not what he was these days, though I still think he's a likeable player.
 
Phillies just beat the shit out of the Braves yesterday...

I bit disappointed that Halladay is getting the All Star game start over Jurrjens, but not surprised since he's Halladay. :D Jurrjens has slightly better first half stats though.

Halladay: 11-3, 2.45 ERA, 1.02 Whip, .240 BAA
Jurrjens: 12-3, 1.87 ERA, 1.07 Whip, .229 BAA
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Phillies just beat the shit out of the Braves yesterday...

I bit disappointed that Halladay is getting the All Star game start over Jurrjens, but not surprised since he's Halladay. :D Jurrjens has slightly better first half stats though.

Halladay: 11-3, 2.45 ERA, 1.02 Whip, .240 BAA
Jurrjens: 12-3, 1.87 ERA, 1.07 Whip, .229 BAA[/QUOTE]

I'm actually disappointed in that too. I obviously love me some Halladay, but what I love more is players getting the respect they deserve. Jurrjens most definitely should be getting the start over Halladay, he's been the better pitcher in the main categories.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I imagine he had an inkling he'd get some pretty nice gifts from them. :D

I think if I had to choose between selling the ball for a couple hundred thousand or getting season tickets, etc, plus the chance not to look like a selfish ass in front of my fellow fans.. I'd do the same thing.[/QUOTE]

it's not being selfish, it's common sense

Derek Jeter has made over $200 million playing baseball. He doesn't need people to do him favors. The dude should have auctioned it. It probably wouldn't get $750k like 756 did but he'd still make a good buck. Yankees tickets and signed jerseys aren't going to pay school loans.
 
[quote name='tcrash247']I'm actually disappointed in that too. I obviously love me some Halladay, but what I love more is players getting the respect they deserve. Jurrjens most definitely should be getting the start over Halladay, he's been the better pitcher in the main categories.[/QUOTE]

No, Halladay's been better. Halladay is ahead by a country mile in walks, strikeouts, and ground balls. Halladay's BABIP is fifty points higher, and he still has a lower WHIP.

Not that I want to completely disregard the results that took place, but I just don't feel good rewarding a pitcher whose success has largely been based on luck.
 
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