BIOSHOCK - Gen. Discussion & Info

[quote name='slickkill77']Im assuming you guys havent beaten the game yet?[/QUOTE]
Been playing for a couple hours, maybe. Just beat the first boss.

Game is so intense it's very draining. Will be playing later tonight, though.
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']Been playing for a couple hours, maybe. Just beat the first boss.

Game is so intense it's very draining. Will be playing later tonight, though.[/quote]Glad I'm not the only one. I'm not very far along but just got to the
Neptune
place and I had to turn it off for a bit. The game style and design as well as gameplay are fantastic.

Bioshock is "next-gen". This is the first game I've played that made me really appreciate what these new systems are capable of. I'm taking it slow and playing on easy just to soak it all in. Mmm.
 
Even if this game is possible to beat within 10 hours, it should be a second degree felony to do so your first time.

Rushing through Bioshock is right up there with masturbating to porn on your honeymoon, watching the last 5 minutes of the best film of the year, or going on vacation to the Bahamas for 2 hours.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Even if this game is possible to beat within 10 hours, it should be a second degree felony to do so your first time.

Rushing through Bioshock is right up there with masturbating to porn on your honeymoon, watching the last 5 minutes of the best film of the year, or going on vacation to the Bahamas for 2 hours.[/quote]I agree. There's just so much going on in the game, even just in the environment. I just find myself reading things off the wall for a few minutes at a time. Or just staring, jaw-ajar, at the amazing graphical power being shoved onto my TV. Even as such, I'm sure I'm missing a ton. So refreshing to not just have wall after wall of sci-fi metal walls. The future is boring; the past with crazy crap is where its at! ;)

It's werid, I wasn't even following this game at all (I got it and Fallout 3 confused easily--tells you how much I knew about it), up until about a week and a 1/2 ago when the scores started coming in. I'm wondering how titles I've been looking forward to for a while of same or similar genres will hold up. I'm glad to have missed the months and months of anticipation and was able to just get it. ;)
 
Currently I'm
pretty far I think, I just got to some place and Atlas betrayed me. Now I'm trying to find some diary to get into some elevator, but I can't find it! It says to go to the 3rd floor but I still don't see it. HELP.

 
I know it's silly to ask, but I just beat my second Big Daddy (in Neptune's Bounty.)

About how much (percentage-wise) have I done?

Just asking because I'm wondering what I should do with this rental of mine.
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']I know it's silly to ask, but I just beat my second Big Daddy (in Neptune's Bounty.)

About how much (percentage-wise) have I done?

Just asking because I'm wondering what I should do with this rental of mine.[/quote]
you are probably like 60-70 percent done
 
[quote name='elsnow77']you are probably like 60-70 percent done[/QUOTE]

60 or 70%? Don't you think that's a bit much?
 
[quote name='CrimGhost']60 or 70%? Don't you think that's a bit much?[/quote]

I sure as hell hope that's a bit much.

I'm gathering ingrediants in Arcadia. How far am I?
 
I am mad because I am in the
medical pavilion, accidentally swapped telekinesis for incinerate before I melted a wall. Now I don't know how to get my incinerate back so I can melt it. I can't get into one door because I need the CHOMPERS dental key, which I assume is behind the wall I need to melt. The manual says I need to use a gene bank, which I have not seen yet.... Can I come back to this later on after I've found a gene bank or what do I have to do?

Is there a way to see how many slots you have left before you pick up an item? Twice now I've wasted adam because i didn't have room and had to put it in the gene bank.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I am mad because I am in the
medical pavilion, accidentally swapped telekinesis for incinerate before I melted a wall. Now I don't know how to get my incinerate back so I can melt it. I can't get into one door because I need the CHOMPERS dental key, which I assume is behind the wall I need to melt. The manual says I need to use a gene bank, which I have not seen yet.... Can I come back to this later on after I've found a gene bank or what do I have to do?

Is there a way to see how many slots you have left before you pick up an item? Twice now I've wasted adam because i didn't have room and had to put it in the gene bank.
[/quote]

Are you talking about the wall of ice at the bottom of the two staircases?
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I am mad because I am in the
medical pavilion, accidentally swapped telekinesis for incinerate before I melted a wall. Now I don't know how to get my incinerate back so I can melt it. I can't get into one door because I need the CHOMPERS dental key, which I assume is behind the wall I need to melt. The manual says I need to use a gene bank, which I have not seen yet.... Can I come back to this later on after I've found a gene bank or what do I have to do?

Is there a way to see how many slots you have left before you pick up an item? Twice now I've wasted adam because i didn't have room and had to put it in the gene bank.
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Chomper's key is on the pillar that you can see through the window of the room that the door leads to. Use telekinesis to grab it.
 
HELP!

I used "hypnotize big daddy" on a big daddy, but now I can't find the little sister!!!

Where is she?

Ah fuck, I didn't mean for this to happen. Worst of all I saved over everything so I can't go back to before I hypnotised the Big Daddy.

fuck!!!!


EDIT: Ah, I see. Eventually the Big Daddy's lose hypnosis (takes a WHILE) and then they go back and call the little sisters out of their hole. That was pretty damn cool.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']
Chomper's key is on the pillar that you can see through the window of the room that the door leads to. Use telekinesis to grab it.
[/QUOTE]

Ah, man I feel dumb now. I was sure I had ruined the game and would have to restart that level....
thanks
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']
Are you talking about the wall of ice at the bottom of the two staircases?
[/QUOTE]

No I got that one, I'm talking about the wall of ice upstairs right near it. I can see on the map there are rooms behind it.

Which leads me to a pet peeve. I really wish the map had a fog of war. I hate seeing every room of the level before even getting anywhere near it.
 
Can somebody clear up a few things about the story so far? I'm in Arcadia, just about to
collect roses

Why did the guy in the Fishery make you collect the camera, and then why did he attack you?

What was the deal with the smuggling ring? What were the smuggling? Why? Or is that revealed later?

Why am I collecting roses for some lady exactly?

And to someone who's beaten the game: is everything explained in the end?

Thanks!

Oh, and the game kicks ASS so far. It's cliche to say a game sucks you in, but two times now I've booted up the game, played, then looked up and three hours have passed. I can't believe it, and I can't wait to play more! :bouncy:
 
[quote name='SilverPaw750']Can somebody clear up a few things about the story so far? I'm in Arcadia, just about to
collect roses

Why did the guy in the Fishery make you collect the camera, and then why did he attack you?

What was the deal with the smuggling ring? What were the smuggling? Why? Or is that revealed later?

Why am I collecting roses for some lady exactly?

And to someone who's beaten the game: is everything explained in the end?

Thanks!

Oh, and the game kicks ASS so far. It's cliche to say a game sucks you in, but two times now I've booted up the game, played, then looked up and three hours have passed. I can't believe it, and I can't wait to play more! :bouncy:[/QUOTE]

I'll answer that last question for you:
The game really doesn't give you any answers. A few of the events are explained, but as for answers, that is up to you to decide.
 
Okay, playing on Easy is officially TOO easy. I decided to check out that difficulty level for about an hour and after facing the first boss,
Dr. Steinman
, he barely made a dent to my health. I used no strategy at all and just stood there like The Terminator and machine gunned him down. After the battle I noticed my health bar went down not even 20 percent.

It is difficult deciding what to spend Adam on. Is it best to make your first purchases an increase in health and Eve?
 
[quote name='SilverPaw750']Can somebody clear up a few things about the story so far? I'm in Arcadia, just about to
collect roses

Why did the guy in the Fishery make you collect the camera, and then why did he attack you?

What was the deal with the smuggling ring? What were the smuggling? Why? Or is that revealed later?

Why am I collecting roses for some lady exactly?

And to someone who's beaten the game: is everything explained in the end?

Thanks!

Oh, and the game kicks ASS so far. It's cliche to say a game sucks you in, but two times now I've booted up the game, played, then looked up and three hours have passed. I can't believe it, and I can't wait to play more! :bouncy:[/quote]

All of those are answered if you dig around and find the audio diaries.
 
[quote name='Kendro']Okay, playing on Easy is officially TOO easy. I decided to check out that difficulty level for about an hour and after facing the first boss,
Dr. Steinman
, he barely made a dent to my health. I used no strategy at all and just stood there like The Terminator and machine gunned him down. After the battle I noticed my health bar went down not even 20 percent.

It is difficult deciding what to spend Adam on. Is it best to make your first purchases an increase in health and Eve?[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter what you purchase, as far as I can tell. I like to open up slots (cause using plasmids is the best).

As for the first boss being easy... WOW! He was so intense for me on Medium.

I definitely have been playing my heart out, running out of ammo at times, crawling around scared and desperate for a health pack. Medium is DEFINITELY the way to go. If you play this game on easy, you will be ruining the whole experience for yourself.

Easy is for people who are brand new at shooters. Period.

Personally, I can't imagine what hard would be like if I'm only playing on medium.


I'm in Arcadia right now.

WARNING! BIG SPOILER IF YOU AREN'T IN ARCADIA YET!!!!
Dear God I hope Atlas's family didn't die... I so want to hold out a bit of hope for the guy.



Here's another note:

Hacking is a blast! Seriously, I almost want to disable my engineering plasmids so I can have the full challenge with hacking.



I just want to say, using telekenisis is an absolute blast. There is nothing more satisfying than tossing a fuel barrel into a gang of splicers.
 
[quote name='JimmieMac']All of those are answered if you dig around and find the audio diaries.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure they are, but I can't understand the thick scottish accents that half the residents of Rapture seem to possess. Can anyone just give me a run down?
 
[quote name='Kendro']Okay, playing on Easy is officially TOO easy. I decided to check out that difficulty level for about an hour and after facing the first boss,
Dr. Steinman
, he barely made a dent to my health. I used no strategy at all and just stood there like The Terminator and machine gunned him down. After the battle I noticed my health bar went down not even 20 percent.
[/QUOTE]


Like I said before, one alternative to monkeying with the difficulty is to take off auto-aim. It plays much differently then. Try it for a spell.

[quote name='SilverPaw750']
I'm sure they are, but I can't understand the thick scottish accents that half the residents of Rapture seem to possess. Can anyone just give me a run down?[/quote]
Then turn on the subtitles from the pause menu.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Like I said before, one alternative to monkeying with the difficulty is to take off auto-aim. It plays much differently then. Try it for a spell.


Then turn on the subtitles from the pause menu.[/QUOTE]
Didn't know you could subtitle the audio diaries. Thanks for the tip :D
 
[quote name='SilverPaw750']I'm sure they are, but I can't understand the thick scottish accents that half the residents of Rapture seem to possess. Can anyone just give me a run down?[/QUOTE]
Err... that's australian, friend.

My problem is when the voices are too soft to hear over the huge amounts of noise in the game (explosions, bangs, and music)... also when you're listening to a diary during dialogue (like when ghosts are talking).

Perhaps there's an option in the pause menu to turn up the voices (or turn everything else down).




Another note:

I like how ammo/health/money is handled. Keeps you switching between weapons, buying stuff, and scavenging. At first when it said "wallet full" I though "wtf??" but now I realize it really improves the flow (no pun intended) of the game.
 
I noticed the game seems to randomly drop ammo when you return to areas. I'd leave an area and come back later finding electro buck shells and pistol rounds all over the place. Never any health or syringes, just ammo.
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']Err... that's australian, friend.[/QUOTE]
No, it's Irish. From a post by Ken Levine:

"Originally Posted by irrationallevine View Post
a bunch of focus testers thought he was australian too. This mortified Jon Chey, who is, of course, Australian.

The dude is Irish. Like, he's actually from Ireland."


Perhaps there's an option in the pause menu to turn up the voices (or turn everything else down).
Click to expand...
You can turn on subtitles.
 
Is there a way to know if you can see how many things you have hacked? Also, is there a new game+ where you keep your stuff from the past play through?
 
[quote name='Kendal']Is there a way to know if you can see how many things you have hacked? Also, is there a new game+ where you keep your stuff from the past play through?[/QUOTE]

No to both, to my best knowledge.
 
This is officially the scariest game I have ever played. I am a huge fan of games that are supposed to creep you out (fear, condemned) but they've never really done much for me. Playing Bioshock... I've had goosebumps 90% of the game. It's just so perfect, from the whispers of the splicers just around the corner to the creepy music playing at the wrong (or right) moments.

The only reason I'm not playing right now is to give myself time to recover, I'm scared crapless... hahahaha I feel like such a wussy.

Don't read this spoiler unless you've been in the basement of Sinclair Spirits!

I have never in my life been so scared as the moment I went down into the hidden basement in the Sinclair Spirits building inside of Fort Frolic knowing something just HAD to happen, picking up the item on the table... turning around seeing the frozen splicer thinking 'hmm, was that there before?' only for it to come alive and attack me. HOLY crap did I squeel, I didn't think I was capable of doing that.
 
[quote name='creeeaature']This is officially the scariest game I have ever played. I am a huge fan of games that are supposed to creep you out (fear, condemned) but they've never really done much for me. Playing Bioshock... I've had goosebumps 90% of the game. It's just so perfect, from the whispers of the splicers just around the corner to the creepy music playing at the wrong (or right) moments.

The only reason I'm not playing right now is to give myself time to recover, I'm scared crapless... hahahaha I feel like such a wussy.

Don't read this spoiler unless you've been in the basement of Sinclair Spirits!

I have never in my life been so scared as the moment I went down into the hidden basement in the Sinclair Spirits building inside of Fort Frolic knowing something just HAD to happen, picking up the item on the table... turning around seeing the frozen splicer thinking 'hmm, was that there before?' only for it to come alive and attack me. HOLY crap did I squeel, I didn't think I was capable of doing that.
[/QUOTE]

Don't feel like a wussy. I'm the vagina in the CAG community. I haven't even opened up my copy yet...I keep convincing myself to play it later. In reality...I'm a HUGE vag and pretty much frightened to death of Rapture.

But, I also convinced myself that this is a game I have to play and I will do so. I think the last time I dreaded playing a game was the Ravenholm section in Half-Life 2. After watching videos of the Howlers, or whatever those things were called that fucking crawl everywhere and lunge at you, I wanted no part of that town. But, I powered through it and felt a real sense of accomplishment after riding the mine cart the fuck out of there.
 
[quote name='creeeaature']This is officially the scariest game I have ever played. I am a huge fan of games that are supposed to creep you out (fear, condemned) but they've never really done much for me. Playing Bioshock... I've had goosebumps 90% of the game. It's just so perfect, from the whispers of the splicers just around the corner to the creepy music playing at the wrong (or right) moments.

The only reason I'm not playing right now is to give myself time to recover, I'm scared crapless... hahahaha I feel like such a wussy.

Don't read this spoiler unless you've been in the basement of Sinclair Spirits!

I have never in my life been so scared as the moment I went down into the hidden basement in the Sinclair Spirits building inside of Fort Frolic knowing something just HAD to happen, picking up the item on the table... turning around seeing the frozen splicer thinking 'hmm, was that there before?' only for it to come alive and attack me. HOLY crap did I squeel, I didn't think I was capable of doing that.
[/QUOTE]

Wow. Bioshock was a little creepy, yes.. but Condemned had a lot more scary moments imo.
 
I just got done playing a pretty good section of the game. Again, its crafted excellently, no graphic or framerate hitches that the Gamespot review talked about-- and I've put a solid 6 or 7 hours into it. Excellent stuff. Pyro is right about it being draining though-- I gotta take a break.
 
No work tomorrow, no school for 2 weeks...tomorrow is Bioshock Day. hopefully I'll finish it :)
 
My one complaint isn't even really about the game, just the fact that I feel like I need huge amounts of time in order to sit down and play this game. I try to tell myself "just an hour, that should be enough for this level" and it would have, if it wasn't for the sheer amount of optional stuff I just had to do (the rewards were sure worth it). That's not even mentioning the fact where I ended up playing through the boss fight THREE times, reloading my save each time, just to kill him a different way each time.

For those of you wondering, I was referencing the 2nd level, and how after getting the Fire ability (which is optional itself), you can open up two new areas. Speaking of which, the morgue / funeral home area scard the bejebus out of me.

Bioshock pretends it's a linear game, but the amount of freedom given is nearly un-rivaled.

Move over Dead Rising, I have a new favorite next-gen game . . .
 
[quote name='JohnnyFoxDarko']Wow.
I just beat this game.
AWESOME. :]
Only took me 2 days.[/QUOTE]

Same here. Game of the Year so far for me.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']My one complaint isn't even really about the game, just the fact that I feel like I need huge amounts of time in order to sit down and play this game. I try to tell myself "just an hour, that should be enough for this level" and it would have, if it wasn't for the sheer amount of optional stuff I just had to do (the rewards were sure worth it). That's not even mentioning the fact where I ended up playing through the boss fight THREE times, reloading my save each time, just to kill him a different way each time.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm really happy they stuck in that "save anywhere" feature. It helps with the replayability, and really lets you experiment more. I think if this was a checkpoint system or a "you have to enter this room to save" it would have taken away from the experience.
 
[quote name='jalu6']Yeah, I'm really happy they stuck in that "save anywhere" feature. It helps with the replayability, and really lets you experiment more. I think if this was a checkpoint system or a "you have to enter this room to save" it would have taken away from the experience.[/QUOTE]Personally I can never get used to "save anywhere" options, as I always turn it into "save EVERYWHERE".


I wish that you could take a screenshot of each save, like in Oblivion, that way you'd know where the save was, so if you wanted to go back and play there you could.

Or even leave notes on the save, like: "Dr. Steinman ahead" or "Hold off the splicers".
 
So does anyone know what happens if you kill the "glitched" big daddy with the little sister when there is only 3 in the level and you've already harvested all 3? Will you be able to harvest the 4th?
 
[quote name='SoulReaver']So does anyone know what happens if you kill the "glitched" big daddy with the little sister when there is only 3 in the level and you've already harvested all 3? Will you be able to harvest the 4th?[/QUOTE]
What level is that?

There are no "glitched" Big Daddy's I know of, but there are some Big Daddy's that don't have little sisters. What they'll end up doing is wandering from portal to portal trying to call out a little sister who isn't there. That's not a "glitch", that's just what Big Daddies do.

One of them is in the Botanical level, and I think he's pretty much put there just to help you hold off the splicers.

[quote name='Liquid 2']Is it possible to placate the big daddies after enraging them?[/QUOTE]
If you are able to escape from a big daddy, eventually he will go back to patroling around, then you can hypnotise him.
 
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