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[quote name='-Never4ever-'] and they're parts of Bioshock that blow GoW out of the water. [/QUOTE]
Pun intended? :D
[quote name='zewone']And for the record, Halo 3 looks to blow both Bioshock and GOW out the water, in terms of graphics (not art style).[/quote]
:rofl:
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']However, that's just an opinion, as is Trakan's & Zewone's apparent dissatisfaction (and I say apparent, because both individuals have a known history of going against the grain just to do so).[/quote]
What the hell is this? Really? I've been known to do that? Where? Show me.

Apparent dissatisfaction? Dude, I gave the game a fucking 8.5 or a 9. What is wrong with that score? A 9 is an excellent score. Do I really have to suck this game's dick to get people to shut up? I don't think the game is perfection. Get over it, Goddamn.

Why is your opinion more important than mine, or zoo's for that matter? Does us not liking it as much offend you? Does it ruin the game for you?
 
[quote name='zewone']Please, I was very much hyped for this game, since I had first heard about it. I was expecting a totally different game, and what I got was something I've done before.[/QUOTE]
People who have "expectations" for what a game should be, besides "a good game", are stupid people who should not be listened to.

Seriously.

"Expectations" :roll:


How about you play the fucking game, instead of your wild 12 months of imagination's fantasies about it.
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']People who have "expectations" for what a game should be, besides "a good game", are stupid people who should not be listened to.

Seriously.

"Expectations" :roll:


How about you play the fucking game, instead of your wild 12 months of imagination's fantasies about it.[/QUOTE]
Kiss my dick.

I gave the game a 9, it's good, why are your panties in a twist, bitch?
 
[quote name='zewone']And for the record, Halo 3 looks to blow both Bioshock and GOW out the water, in terms of graphics (not art style).[/QUOTE]
Well I was dissapointed with Halo, I expected it to be a turn-based RPG based on the Hello Kitty brand, and instead I got something I've played before :roll:
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']Well I was dissapointed with Halo, I expected it to be a turn-based RPG based on the Hello Kitty brand, and instead I got something I've played before :roll:[/QUOTE]
Then you're fucking retarded, but everyone knows that already.
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']"fucking retard", "Bitch", and "Kiss my dick" in two posts.


And my panties are in a bunch?[/QUOTE]
I just have a filthy mouth, doesn't mean you didn't get bent out of shape when I said your favorite game wasn't that hot.
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']People who have "expectations" for what a game should be, besides "a good game", are stupid people who should not be listened to.

Seriously.

"Expectations" :roll:


How about you play the fucking game, instead of your wild 12 months of imagination's fantasies about it.[/quote]

Did you even watch the videos of the game from the beginning of this year? The game looked far more open ended and didn't look like it was even going to be a first person shooter.
 
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IDK what the fighting is about. I think Zew meant by "totally different game" in the sense that this was a game that was going to take the FPS genre to a whole new level, and it didn't for him. I'd agree with him. In terms of story, it's certainly several levels about your average FPS, as are Bioshock's graphics and atmosphere.

But in terms of gameplay? It does a lot of things right, but they aren't necessarily new. Many of the plasmids to me are essentially replacements for guns. The fire plasmid is a flamethrower, telekenesis is the gravity gun, electro bolt is a gun that shoots lightening. Of course this being the 1960s...those things don't really exist. Neither should a underwater utopia that has the technology to change DNA...but I digress, it IS a videogame.

Some of the other plasmids seem like legitimate ideas that can't really be made into a gun. For example, the aggro plasmid. A gun that makes enemies have increased aggro would be pretty lame.

Again, not sure what the fighting is about again, it's mostly about a difference of opinion...which will never end.
 
[quote name='zewone']Thanks.[/QUOTE]
You sure have the "serious reply to a sarcastic post" comeback down. Now you should move up to the third-grade tactic of questioning my sexual orientation.

[quote name='zewone']I gave the game a 9, it's good, why are your panties in a twist, bitch?[/QUOTE]

Shall I quote?

"Not that hot"

"Been done"

"Not even game of the month"


But best of all, your complaint about the game is that it "wasn't like an RPG".

Seriously, what part of "it's a first person shooter" don't you understand? 2K Boston made this fact quite clear.


And many of my comments were directed toward Trakan. Here are some fun quotes from him:

"These [13 good reviews] are fanboy bullshit"

"If you think this game is the best looking 360 game you are delusional"




Don't either of you give me the straw-man bullshit about "hey, I think it's a great game" after you call people who like it "delusional", "morons" and "fanboys".

[quote name='Trakan']Did you even watch the videos of the game from the beginning of this year? The game looked far more open ended and didn't look like it was even going to be a first person shooter.[/QUOTE]
To quote Irrational:

"It's a shooter."

"It's a shooter with freaky shit."


You're saying it "didn't look like it was even going to be a first person shooter"... seriously... WOW. If you didn't realize BioShock was a FPS, then you need to seriously work on your reading comprehension skills.

[quote name='Moxio']Take it easy, kiddies.[/QUOTE]
I'm trying. I get a little pissed when someone starts calling me a "fucking moron" and tells me to "kiss his dick" right out of the blue.
 
[quote name='zewone']Are you gay?[/QUOTE]
I actual found that kind of funny.

I'm definitely not in my right mind at the moment :)

[quote name='A Happy Panda']Again, not sure what the fighting is about again, it's mostly about a difference of opinion...which will never end.[/QUOTE]
Kid starts telling me to "kiss his dick" right out of the blue. I have no idea what that was about, either. Kid obviously has some issues.
[quote name='zewone']I just have a filthy mouth, doesn't mean you didn't get bent out of shape when I said your favorite game wasn't that hot.[/QUOTE]
I have a filthy mouth too, but I don't call other posters "bitches" or "fucking morons" or tell them to "kiss my dick". That's just some uncalled-for shit that doesn't belong on this forum.
 
[quote name='Trakan']The art style and graphics are two different things. The atmosphere of the game was amazing, I agree with that. I never saw any post of yours mention it was in your top 5 or whatever.[/QUOTE]
You didn't specify technical graphics. You said it wasn't the "best looking" game, and I disagree. It's not the most technically impressive, but it's by FAR the best looking because of the amazing art design. Rapture is beautiful, and the lack of shaky-cam rambo runs, bloom lighting, and crazy high contrast doesn't detract from Rapture just being a pleasure to take in.
 
This is why I drop out of these sorts of discussions after a few posts. :)


edit: Ha, that got a whole lot less relevant after some moderation.

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[quote name='valor19']Overall, I'm enjoying it but can't imagine I'd play through again once I complete it.[/QUOTE]
The rehashed "scavenger hunt" gameplay of this game gets pretty old later on in the game.

It's a 20 hour, linear FPS with open map design. It's amazing for a play-through, but after that the (bio)shock wears off. That's the way it was made, and that's why I just rented it.

[quote name='valor19']Also, while I'm enjoying the game, there were some things that remind me of Half-Life 2.[/QUOTE]
Wrench + Telekinisis = Unavoidable comparison.

Funny to note Half Life 2 used to be on the top 10 reviewed videogames of all time list until BioShock knocked it off.

As I said before: I guess there's not room enough in this town for two wrench-toting FPS's.
 
So who else has ordered the Coffins for your broken Big Daddy? I ordered mine today and I hope that it will come quickly and I will get my new Big Daddy equally as quick.
 
[quote name='darthbudge']So who else has ordered the Coffins for your broken Big Daddy? I ordered mine today and I hope that it will come quickly and I will get my new Big Daddy equally as quick.[/QUOTE]
I ordered mine a couple days ago. I'm sure you'll get the coffin and art bookj pretty quick, but I wouldn't hold your breath on the Big Daddy. They need to do another production run in China. Probably a couple months when all is said and done.
 
Love it but i have to say...its quite redundant! oohhh weird guy zap shoot zap shoot. OOOhhh BIG DADDY freze freze shoot shoot buck shoot. i have to take a brake for a week or so!
 
Definately an Amazing game-- I'll go through Hard difficulty run (and get the 1000/1000) at a later date. I tried playing it last night, and still enjoyed it-- but since I had just finished everything was already out of the bag, so i didn't have the same drive as I did the first time through.

Great stuff though- and certainly a great barn burner for what looks like an Amazing Fall.
 
[quote name='MemphisGun']Love it but i have to say...its quite redundant! oohhh weird guy zap shoot zap shoot. OOOhhh BIG DADDY freze freze shoot shoot buck shoot. i have to take a brake for a week or so![/QUOTE]

Well, yeah, if that's how you decide to take them down. There's way too many plasmids to be doing the same thing every time, that's your own fault.
 
if i see too many big daddys walking around i would just use the enrage plasmid to make them fight each other...somewhat amusing but not as destructive as i hoped:)
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']You should get the "Deal With Every Little Sister" achievment the minute you deal with every little sister. The "beat the game without harvesting any little sisters" achievment requires you to beat the game first.

There are no harvestable/savable little sisters after point promethius. Point Promethius is the very last level.

You probably missed a little sister earlier in the game.[/QUOTE]


I actually got that achievement before the last sister. I think it was because I got the mysterious 4th sister in Neptune's Bounty
 
Absolutely loved the game through and through, but I'm very glad I just rented it isntead of paying $60. I honestly can't see myself going back and playing it ever again.
 
I'm definately playing through a second time just to try it "evil" and harvest all the little sisters.


this is one that will stay in my collection even after I'm done with it, I think it's pretty groundbreaking in a lot of ways and I'd like to have it around in case I want to introduce it to friends who aren't hip to it.
 
Just finished the game tonight.

I really enjoyed the game. I loved the atmosphere of the game.

The only problems I had with it were the repetitive nature at times. Also the story was told really well but in the end I personally thought it was a little predictable.

I kept a couple saves near the end of the game in case I wanted to go back and finish some achievements. I might have to find that 4th Little Sister at Neptune that Apossum mentioned. Maybe that'll finally give me the "Harvesting/Rescuing Sisters" achievement.
 
[quote name='asianxcore']Just finished the game tonight.

I really enjoyed the game. I loved the atmosphere of the game.

The only problems I had with it were the repetitive nature at times. Also the story was told really well but in the end I personally thought it was a little predictable.

I kept a couple saves near the end of the game in case I wanted to go back and finish some achievements. I might have to find that 4th Little Sister at Neptune that Apossum mentioned. Maybe that'll finally give me the "Harvesting/Rescuing Sisters" achievement.[/QUOTE]
I also just finished the game today. I agree with the game getting a little bit repetitive at times. The "fetch" missions got on my nerves. But the atmosphere and story made up for everything. I will go back and beat this one on hard.
 
For some reasn Penny Arcade won't load for me (I was able to load it up this morning but the comic wasn't there yet).

Any mirror?
 
While I am behind you guys due to a backlog. I just got the telekinesis plasmid I know most of you probably dont, but I recommend going through FPS games on Hard. I always do and it makes it intense, but man this takes the cake. This game is scary as shit on hard. For example in the dentist office practically no health and I hear guys everywhere on my surround system. If that doesn't get your adreline going I dont know what does :)
 
Yeah, you really need to be scared of dying in this game. The best parts are when you're low on health and ammo and dying for a med-pack.

I regret not playing on Hard the first time through.
 
For those past Hephestus - One thing I didn't understand:

The scene in Ryan's office....why the hell did he command me to kill him? Why would he try to stop me the entire game and then when I get there, he lays down like a dog when he could have said "Would you kindly leave"?
 
[quote name='infamyRISE']For those past Hephestus - One thing I didn't understand:

The scene in Ryan's office....why the hell did he command me to kill him? Why would he try to stop me the entire game and then when I get there, he lays down like a dog when he could have said "Would you kindly leave"?
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At that point he had lost. Even if he told you to leave, or killed you, Fontaine still won. You had taken out all the defenses he had around himself. All Fontaine had to do was send some splicers in there, or march in himself. Also that's assuming Fontaine didn't have a more powerful control over your mental conditioning.

As for why Ryan said to kill him, he said it himself. He was going to die like a man, not a slave. He chose his way to die, and he went out on his own terms. At that point the only thing he had left was the choice on how to die. His dream was in ruins, and Fontaine had taken over.
 
Can you guys tell me about how far I am in the game percentage wise?

I am currently working on Sander Cohens masterpiece.
 
[quote name='help1']Can you guys tell me about how far I am in the game percentage wise?

I am currently working on Sander Cohens masterpiece.
[/QUOTE]
Half or a little more than half way.
 
[quote name='zewone']Half or a little more than half way.[/quote]

Sweet! I just want to beat this game one time and sell it. I think GOW and the CoD 4 beta will last me until Halo 3.
 
I have a question. I'm still early on into the game. When I got to the part where you
make your first choice whether to save or harvest a Little Sister, I chose to save her. So now shortly after that, I have my first battle with a Big Daddy, but after I take him down, I can't find the Little Sister. There's another Big Daddy and Little Sister roaming around now, but I can't find the one that went with the BD I killed. But it also looks like I've got 80 Adam again, the same as I got when I saved the first LS. Did the game automatically choose to save this LS for me as well? Or am I supposed to hunt around for her after I kill the Big Daddy?

Any spoiler-free help would be much appreciated.
 
[quote name='Danimal']Any spoiler-free help would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Big Daddies respawn. Little Sisters do not. You will often see a BD roaming without a LS.
 
[quote name='Danimal']I have a question. I'm still early on into the game. When I got to the part where you
make your first choice whether to save or harvest a Little Sister, I chose to save her. So now shortly after that, I have my first battle with a Big Daddy, but after I take him down, I can't find the Little Sister. There's another Big Daddy and Little Sister roaming around now, but I can't find the one that went with the BD I killed. But it also looks like I've got 80 Adam again, the same as I got when I saved the first LS. Did the game automatically choose to save this LS for me as well? Or am I supposed to hunt around for her after I kill the Big Daddy?

Any spoiler-free help would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes after you kill BD and wait too long the Sister will go to another BD (who assumingly respawn).
 
[quote name='Damian']Big Daddies respawn. Little Sisters do not. You will often see a BD roaming without a LS.[/QUOTE]
I think he may have just finished helping the LS up into her hidey-hole when I opened fire on him, so maybe that's it, and he was just alone. Fortunately, I had saved right before I attacked him, so I just loaded the game back to that point, fought him again, and this time the LS was there after I finished him off.

Thanks Damian and Moxio.
 
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