Blu-ray Discussion Thread - The One and Only

[quote name='shrike4242']Ran across this on Blu-Ray.com, from TheDigitalBits.com:



Would be great news if they did reissue it with the right transfer. Would suck for those that bought the current release if they don't offer an exchange program.[/QUOTE]

I would not be entertained.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']That's one I'm waiting on reviews before picking up. Too many places to screw up that transfer.[/QUOTE]

not that it's a guarantee, but i read somewhere that some of the old supplements were actually going to be redone in HD so if that's indicative of their care for the rest of the BD, that bodes very well.

it's that and collateral that i'm really looking forward to.
 
How's the Watchmen Director's Cut BR? I saw it was $15 at BB this week.

I no longer have any interest in the Ultimate Edition after reading the reviews of it. Its meant for super-hardcore fans....so not me. Normally, I always go for the "best" edition of a movie, but I can't justify the cost behind it. Also, there's no theatrical cut besides the digital copy, which is really disappointing.

So, because of that, I figure I could settle for the second best edition and I could handle the extra 23 minutes or whatever...but an extra hour that is included with the ultimate cut? no thanks.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']How's the Watchmen Director's Cut BR? I saw it was $15 at BB this week.[/QUOTE]
It's great if you've read the graphic novel. The most notable scene is the fate the original Night Owl. At $15, it's a great deal. And if it has the digital copy sticker on it it may not be on the DC disc, but the studio will mail you your copy.

And I passed on the ultimate cut too, I don't care one bit for the Black Freighter, in my opinion it was a wasted portion in the book as well as the movie.
 
[quote name='Blumpkin']It's great if you've read the graphic novel. The most notable scene is the fate the original Night Owl. At $15, it's a great deal. And if it has the digital copy sticker on it it may not be on the DC disc, but the studio will mail you your copy.

And I passed on the ultimate cut too, I don't care one bit for the Black Freighter, in my opinion it was a wasted portion in the book as well as the movie.[/QUOTE]

I have read it many years ago, and yes, I read about the Hollis Mason scene.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a copy with the digital copy sticker...oh well. Happy with it for $15.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Check the thread stickied here with the list of movies with issues. Not all of those have replacement programs, only some of them.

They haven't mentioned any "replacement" with Gangs Of New York and that's getting a re-issue double-dip.
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But it's really not a "re-issue double dip" -- it's the exact same disc, in the exact same packaging, that's been repressed to correct a problematic, botched transfer.

That disc is precisely what I was referring to in my earlier post. When a studio has to repress/re-issue a title within 12-18 months because its first release was completely BOTCHED, they ought to have an exchange program. GANGS OF NEW YORK is what I was referring to. And, again, it's not even a different release with different materials on it-- it's the exact same disc and package with a corrected, newer transfer.

If they have to go to the trouble to do that, they ought to accomodate the consumers who bought the first pressing. Shame on them.
 
[quote name='phantomfriar2002']But it's really not a "re-issue double dip" -- it's the exact same disc, in the exact same packaging, that's been repressed to correct a problematic, botched transfer.

That disc is precisely what I was referring to in my earlier post. When a studio has to repress/re-issue a title within 12-18 months because its first release was completely BOTCHED, they ought to have an exchange program. GANGS OF NEW YORK is what I was referring to. And, again, it's not even a different release with different materials on it-- it's the exact same disc and package with a corrected, newer transfer.

If they have to go to the trouble to do that, they ought to accomodate the consumers who bought the first pressing. Shame on them.[/QUOTE]
Do I think they should offer a replacement plan to previous owners, since it's a re-issue with a new master? Without question. Will they do it? Most likely not.

Same situation with Gladiator, and if that pans out, I don't know if Paramount will do a replacement plan or not.

If there's issues with any titles that aren't player-related, any studio should fix the issue and reissue the disc. If it's not cost-effective to do it, they won't. Which is the real issue with these situations, if it doesn't make them enough money to make it worthwhile, they'll skip it.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Do I think they should offer a replacement plan to previous owners, since it's a re-issue with a new master? Without question. Will they do it? Most likely not.

Same situation with Gladiator, and if that pans out, I don't know if Paramount will do a replacement plan or not.

If there's issues with any titles that aren't player-related, any studio should fix the issue and reissue the disc. If it's not cost-effective to do it, they won't. Which is the real issue with these situations, if it doesn't make them enough money to make it worthwhile, they'll skip it.[/QUOTE]


I cant help but agree with that statement. Blu Ray.com never misses the opportunity to bring up The Fifth Element replacement program.But honestly, how much money was sony losing on that.
Especially compared to big sales titles like Gangs, or Gladiator.

The thing that bothers me most is why is someone like Ridley supervising a Kingdom of Heaven Transfer, and not a Gladiator?
Whats that about?
In the same sense that:why is ONE Sapphire series disc like Braveheart all good, and days apart another is released(Gladiator) thats total shit?
 
[quote name='gunm']Ah, I came pretty close to getting Gladiator for $9.99 @ Amazon during BF time--so glad I didn't.[/QUOTE]

I did end up getting it but I submitted the $10 rebate so I actually got it for free...
 
[quote name='EdRyder']I cant help but agree with that statement. Blu Ray.com never misses the opportunity to bring up The Fifth Element replacement program.But honestly, how much money was sony losing on that.
Especially compared to big sales titles like Gangs, or Gladiator.

The thing that bothers me most is why is someone like Ridley supervising a Kingdom of Heaven Transfer, and not a Gladiator?
Whats that about?
In the same sense that:why is ONE Sapphire series disc like Braveheart all good, and days apart another is released(Gladiator) thats total shit?[/QUOTE]Forrest Gump is a very good Sapphire Series release, just like Braveheart.

I'm hoping that the next one I'd get, Saving Private Ryan, is just as good as the other two I have. That one I'm waiting on reviews before picking up.
 
^ I wouldnt be surprised if they did.
While were at it, didnt they do this same shit with the gladiator dvd? The first one was garbage and then in like '04, '05 they released a special edition or directors cut or w/e/t/f?
 
[quote name='EdRyder']I cant help but agree with that statement. Blu Ray.com never misses the opportunity to bring up The Fifth Element replacement program.But honestly, how much money was sony losing on that.[/QUOTE]

The only reason The Fifth Element was re-done, and offered a replacement program, was because HD DVD was still around and the poor quality of TFE was being discussed so often as a negative against BD. Even the 'Insiders' over at that shill site confirmed as much a year or so ago. Don't expect the same treatment anymore.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']The only reason The Fifth Element was re-done, and offered a replacement program, was because HD DVD was still around and the poor quality of TFE was being discussed so often as a negative against BD. Even the 'Insiders' over at that shill site confirmed as much a year or so ago. Don't expect the same treatment anymore.[/QUOTE]I hadn't though of that being the issue of why they did the "replacement" program on TFE.

Now with HD-DVD gone, crap BR discs don't have HD-DVD counterparts to balance out as better discs and reasons not to buy the BR disc.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']I hadn't though of that being the issue of why they did the "replacement" program on TFE.

Now with HD-DVD gone, crap BR discs don't have HD-DVD counterparts to balance out as better discs and reasons not to buy the BR disc.[/QUOTE]

There is no competition and no reason to really care. Sad, but very true. Gangs didn't get a replacement program, or Stargate, or any other title that got an updated version after the POS early one. TFE was only done so the HD DVD group couldn't point to the poor looking 'demo disc' for the format.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']I can't believe Amazon hasn't PM'd the ads this week...hope they're just lagging on doing it.[/QUOTE]They did, just a little bit ago.

[quote name='GizmoGC']There is no competition and no reason to really care. Sad, but very true. Gangs didn't get a replacement program, or Stargate, or any other title that got an updated version after the POS early one. TFE was only done so the HD DVD group couldn't point to the poor looking 'demo disc' for the format.[/QUOTE]All the more reason why I waited on both of those when I read how bad the encodes were on both of those. Not as bad with Stargate as the mess that is Gangs, though the newer version of each is so much better. Hopefully the same with the rumored revision for Gladiator.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']The only reason The Fifth Element was re-done, and offered a replacement program, was because HD DVD was still around and the poor quality of TFE was being discussed so often as a negative against BD. Even the 'Insiders' over at that shill site confirmed as much a year or so ago. Don't expect the same treatment anymore.[/QUOTE]

That actually makes a lot of sense.Considering that TFE was a Sony product and they needed to do all they could to support Blu.

Still, I dont see a lot of folks clamoring for a Fifth Element replacement....But I guess it happened, cant deny that.
Fifth Element Fan: "This is unacceptable!!! You've tainted the legacy of greatness that is all things ChrisTucker!!"
 
Is there any place to buy the Manhunter :br: without buying the Hannibal Lecter anthology (which doesn't include Red Dragon . . .?)
I already have SoTL and really don't want to rebuy/sell anything.
 
[quote name='h3llbring3r']Is there any place to buy the Manhunter :br: without buying the Hannibal Lecter anthology (which doesn't include Red Dragon . . .?)
I already have SoTL and really don't want to rebuy/sell anything.[/QUOTE]

You missed the whole collection for $28 on Amazon yesterday.

But no, you have to buy the whole 3 disc set and that won't be changing sine MGM is dead.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']You missed the whole collection for $28 on Amazon yesterday.

But no, you have to buy the whole 3 disc set and that won't be changing sine MGM is dead.[/QUOTE]
Yea, the deal yesterday is actually what prompted me to ask. I think I am going to try and pick it up used later on. It's not a must have and reviews list it as the barest of bare bones releases (it didn't even have chapters).
 
Hey, I need some advice! Picked up Star Trek: TOS seasons 1&2 when they were on sale on BB last week. I'm 19, and have never watched the original series (my parents are always referencing them, but I was always just into Star Wars). So anyway, moneys tight and I never open anything too soon cuz I might have to return it later on to, y'know, eat.

So, having never seen the show in it's entirety, I need to know, from Star Trek fans, and Blu-ray fans (something I'm really new to), if you could only keep one of these seasons, which would you keep? Or are they SO good that I should keep both and sell my body on the streets instead? Worst case scenario I just try to squeeze $40 out of my dad :lol:

Thanks guys!

EDIT: I mean, I can watch all the episodes for free through Boxee, but the blu-rays are so beautiful! \\:D/
 
Avatar confirmed for 4/22:

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It's going to be a :br:/:dvd: bundle, and apparently won't have any special features as they want to maximize the space on the discs for optimum quality. The "Ultimate" edition double-dip to hit sometime this November:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/20th_Century_Fox/Disc_Announcements/Avatar_Blu-ray_Confirmed_for_April_/4397?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+highdefdigestallnews+%28High+Def+Digest%3A+All+High-Def+Disc+News%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

I could care less about extras, glad they are doing this. Picking up on release day for sure.
 
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[quote name='LinkinPrime']:oops: :lol:

Man...this DST change has me more messed up than I realized.[/QUOTE]

No worries man... I knew what you were talking about.

Not sure about the DST though. It's probably all the spray tan fumes from walking around the OC. ;)
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']It's going to be a :br:/:dvd: bundle, and apparently won't have any special features as they want to maximize the space on the discs for optimum quality. [/QUOTE]

"We went to Fox and told them that, for this movie, we wanted to do something really special and reach for the best presentation of any film in the history of the format," Landau said. "This is a movie that has done the unexpected every step of the way. Fox agreed with us and the result is amazing. Everything that is put on a disc takes up room -- the menus, the extras, the trailers and studio promotions -- and we got rid of all of that so we could give this movie the best picture and sound possible."

I still can't believe that there are people who will fall for that line of BS in this generation.
 
Pics of the new BSG Blu-Ray complete series set:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#031810

Looks very nice and much better than the previous packaging. Glad I waited it out.

Also appears that the UK packaging received a makeover as well (UK version doesn't get The Plan included with it, so appears to be cheaper):
http://forum.blu-ray.com/united-kingdom/102577-battlestar-galactica-complete-series-uk-bd-4.html

EDIT:
Looks like we're getting Tron on BR in November and Lion King on BR next year (Oct 2011):
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#031910a
 
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[quote name='Sporadic']I still can't believe that there are people who will fall for that line of BS in this generation.[/QUOTE]

Well what is said is true. All that takes up space on the BD disc and vidoe and audio might need to be compressed. Now if the quality of video and audio is better on this disc then what will come out later who knows. If the video and audio is a lot better to make it worth buying then I will get it on sale after the set with the extras come out but I don't see the video and audio being much different to make me want to get this one coming out next month.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']I still can't believe that there are people who will fall for that line of BS in this generation.[/QUOTE]

Avatar is 162 minutes long. Encoded at Blu-ray's maximum allowed video bitrate in the specifications (40 Mbps or 5 MBps), Avatar would require approximately 48,600 MB of space, better known as 48.6 GB for its video alone. Lossless audio tracks would require several GB more. A dual layer Blu-ray disc holds 50 GB, so... it most certainly is not a line of BS.
 
just opened my P&FP and there was also an advertisement for James and the Giant Peach blu Summer 2010! Will probably get that =)

[quote name='GizmoGC']Just got the official press release from Disney about the Platinum BD releases...[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='Xizer']Avatar is 162 minutes long. Encoded at Blu-ray's maximum allowed video bitrate in the specifications (40 Mbps or 5 MBps), Avatar would require approximately 48,600 MB of space, better known as 48.6 GB for its video alone. Lossless audio tracks would require several GB more. A dual layer Blu-ray disc holds 50 GB, so... it most certainly is not a line of BS.[/QUOTE]

What about a second disc for special features then?
 
[quote name='Xizer']Avatar is 162 minutes long. Encoded at Blu-ray's maximum allowed video bitrate in the specifications (40 Mbps or 5 MBps), Avatar would require approximately 48,600 MB of space, better known as 48.6 GB for its video alone. Lossless audio tracks would require several GB more. A dual layer Blu-ray disc holds 50 GB, so... it most certainly is not a line of BS.[/QUOTE]

No, it is completely a line of BS to have dumbbells pay full price for a barebones release when they know that a real release (with such fancy things as menus and extras) and a 3D release are on the way (let's not forget a potential Director's cut)

This is a case of diminishing returns.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']What about a second disc for special features then?[/QUOTE]

That is what they could do. I really don't see why they don't do that with bluray. That way we get the best picture and audio quality for the movie. Then if they have an uncut edition put it on a nother disc also. However then it would be 3 or 4 discs if you count the download one.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Bad Boys set for June 1st on :br: :bouncy:
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About freakin time.

Wasn't this advertised as 'coming soon' by Sony 3 years ago?

:lol:
 
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